Nina Porn X - Wood Green

[MLawro93]

Link
External Link/Members Only or External Link/Members Only

Communication
Easy to arrange via text, struggles with English but it is her.

Location
A flat not far from Wood Green station, not the best flat but it will do. Plenty of parking options in the area.

Price
£100 for the hour. £20 for CIM and £20 for DFK. £140 in total.

Appearance
Accurate photos. Photoshop touch-ups on the photos, as expected.

Meet
I got to the location and was let in quite quickly. I sorted the paperwork, showered, and got on with the action.

She delivered everything as advertised with enthusiasm; these include OWO, DFK, CIM, RO and protected sex.

The service experience was positive. Everything went downhill at the end. I didn't have a shower at the end as the police arrived. Luckily, I was getting dressed at this point when I realised they were in the flat. So I had to talk with them for a bit, but they were nice. It was the first time it had happened to me, but they were all right, just doing their jobs. In my experience in situations from when I was a kid and you are doing something wrong/naughty,  and you get caught, it is best to comply and be honest. So we chatted, they ran my details, and let me go. Luckily, the girls were nice and confirmed nothing bad happened. I had paid, and they weren't being forced. Otherwise, I would have been fucked there and then.

The officers record everything, but to be fair, if you don't comply, they will get everything they need. So better to suck it up and get on with it. While I wasn't arrested or cautioned (I confirmed this there), they do write down your information, which most likely gets uploaded/recorded. So good luck if you require a position that requires thorough vetting (it could come up!), but then there is scope to remove it.

One of the officers recording my information was a dead ringer for the actor Glenn Morshower, and even had a stern look. I was tempted to mention it but thought better of it. They let me go, and I was happy to leave at that point.

Quite the humbling experience to be honest. I'll think more carefully about punting in future as it could have easily gone oh so badly!

[londonchap]

Why were the police there? What caused them to arrive? Did they enter the flat?

[MLawro93]

Why were the police there? What caused them to arrive? Did they enter the flat?

Just a standard welfare check on known locations in the area. I did ask, and that was the answer I got. They didn't break in, just politely came up, knocked, and were let in.

They were obviously talking to the people in the flat and confirming a few things with them via a translator. If it was anything terrible, the police would not have let me go. If need be, they might follow-up with me, but I doubt it.

[last_days_of_logan]

might help if you describe the area where the flat is based...not too detailed, just enough so we can be cautious if we get directions to that place in wood green

[MLawro93]

might help if you describe the area where the flat is based...not too detailed, just enough so we can be cautious if we get directions to that place in wood green

Converted house into flats on a road just off Green Lanes. N22 postcode area. It's a 15 minute walk from Wood Green station.

Personally, the officers were alright, and none of the girls were being forced—that much was clear—but you never know what they'll say in private.

My details were collected, but I doubt it will be that much of a problem unless I decide to become a policeman myself. Then it would most likely flag. There are various levels of disclosure and vetting in the UK, this type of soft intelligence information only comes up when you are vetted to inch of your life.

I do appreciate that most guys will be scared off now, and the girls might just move off to another location soon.

[SonofAJohn]

Was it Female police officers that arrived?

[MLawro93]

Was it Female police officers that arrived?

It was a mixture of plain-clothed and uniformed officers. I only spoke to a few before leaving. I did look at the girl's profile, and she was back working an hour later. 

[Prince]

What are the exact rights in a situation like that?

Could they arrest you because more than one girl escort is in the same flat?

If they say they aren't going to arrest you why give your details? Maybe I've been watching too much American shorts of cops and drivers. :-)
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[MLawro93]

What are the exact rights in a situation like that?

Could they arrest you because more than one girl escort is in the same flat?

If they say they aren't going to arrest you why give your details? Maybe I've been watching too much American shorts of cops and drivers. :-)
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There are multiple options available to you in this situation; they are primarily bad.  The best option is to comply and answer the questions without admitting some other offence. Especially as you are being recorded, they will review that later.

The police have the right to arrest you in that situation in order to interview/investigate you. Its easier to just talk to them without the need for arrest. I willingly gave them my details because they can take them anyway by just arresting you which they can do on the spot. They run a quick background check to see if there is anything outstanding against you.

Also, it is you hedging against the risk, because you don't know what those girls could say or what the actual situation is. Ignorance isn't a good defence in these situations, but the fact you were honest and complying with the officers works in your favour.

Others might not give a thing, but that is just being awkward and you risk escalating it even further as they will get what they need one way or another. Plus, they are just doing their jobs, they have seen it all and don't really care about your circumstances in that situation.

[Bassman]

Not too clued up but wouldn’t the crime here be committed by the WG’s in the flat?

Being a prossie isn’t a crime just multiple women doing so in one place is right? Makes it a brothel.

Paying for sex is not a crime either. So what crime would one have committed to warrant an arrest or even exchange of details?

[MLawro93]

Not too clued up but wouldn’t the crime here be committed by the WG’s in the flat?

Being a prossie isn’t a crime just multiple women doing so in one place is right? Makes it a brothel.

Paying for sex is not a crime either. So what crime would one have committed to warrant an arrest or even exchange of details?

By paying for the sexual services of a prostitute who has, in fact, been subject to exploitative conduct. Whether the girl confirms this or not, is enough for them to arrest you. Even if they don't believe it to be the case. Section 53A of the SOA 2003 of the Prostitution and Exploitation of Prostitution section on the CPS site covers it.

Yeah the laws are old and outdated, perhaps the ambiguity suits some parties. The exchange of details is just me being polite and complying, I have zero doubt that if I refused, I would have been arrested on the spot. You also need to remember you are at mercy of the officers present in that situation, some are more experienced than others, and know how to handle themselves correctly in that situation.

The police aren't going to show up at my door or attempt to ruin my life or whatever...they are just doing their job in that situation. I'm the one in the awkward situation, why make it any harder? 

This sort of stuff happening is just a risk of the hobby. In future, I'll make a bigger effort to see people who 100% aren't managed and are clearly independent, won't leave any doubt effectively. Rather not have the police bursting into a room whilst I quickly get my clothes on again 

[Bassman]

By paying for the sexual services of a prostitute who has, in fact, been subject to exploitative conduct. Whether the girl confirms this or not, is enough for them to arrest you. Even if they don't believe it to be the case. Section 53A of the SOA 2003 of the Prostitution and Exploitation of Prostitution section on the CPS site covers it.

Yeah the laws are old and outdated, perhaps the ambiguity suits some parties. The exchange of details is just me being polite and complying, I have zero doubt that if I refused, I would have been arrested on the spot. You also need to remember you are at mercy of the officers present in that situation, some are more experienced than others, and know how to handle themselves correctly in that situation.

The police aren't going to show up at my door or attempt to ruin my life or whatever...they are just doing their job in that situation. I'm the one in the awkward situation, why make it any harder? 

This sort of stuff happening is just a risk of the hobby. In future, I'll make a bigger effort to see people who 100% aren't managed and are clearly independent, won't leave any doubt effectively. Rather not have the police bursting into a room whilst I quickly get my clothes on again 

I get it mate. Not saying you shouldn’t have given details. But I do wonder how they can arrest someone for simply paying for sex. All other extenuating circumstances regarding their working is out of your control and not known to you. It’d be a harsh arrest. I’d like to read that section to better understand it.

But I would probably have done the same as you.

[Ron89]

By paying for the sexual services of a prostitute who has, in fact, been subject to exploitative conduct. Whether the girl confirms this or not, is enough for them to arrest you. Even if they don't believe it to be the case. Section 53A of the SOA 2003 of the Prostitution and Exploitation of Prostitution section on the CPS site covers it.

Yeah the laws are old and outdated, perhaps the ambiguity suits some parties. The exchange of details is just me being polite and complying, I have zero doubt that if I refused, I would have been arrested on the spot. You also need to remember you are at mercy of the officers present in that situation, some are more experienced than others, and know how to handle themselves correctly in that situation.

The police aren't going to show up at my door or attempt to ruin my life or whatever...they are just doing their job in that situation. I'm the one in the awkward situation, why make it any harder? 

This sort of stuff happening is just a risk of the hobby. In future, I'll make a bigger effort to see people who 100% aren't managed and are clearly independent, won't leave any doubt effectively. Rather not have the police bursting into a room whilst I quickly get my clothes on again 

Understandable. You were extremely unlucky and the odds of this happening again are minuscule. I’d say less than 50% of the SPs I punt are independent, and thus far not so much as a sniff from the pigs. 

[MLawro93]

I get it mate. Not saying you shouldn’t have given details. But I do wonder how they can arrest someone for simply paying for sex. All other extenuating circumstances regarding their working is out of your control and not known to you. It’d be a harsh arrest. I’d like to read that section to better understand it.

But I would probably have done the same as you.

If they have reason to suspect it is a brothel, the girl is being exploited, etc, they have the cause to arrest you. Ignorance of the person paying isn't a defence. You can't say, "BUT I DIDN'T KNOW SHE WAS TRAFFICKED", the law is clear in that respect. I'm not sure someone has been convicted on that basis, but they certainly will use it to arrest you and gain the required details if you are being difficult.

Understandable. You were extremely unlucky and the odds of this happening again are minuscule. I’d say less than 50% of the SPs I punt are independent, and thus far not so much as a sniff from the pigs.

Yeah, just unlucky. It was a bit humbling. I was like, thank god I was finished and halfway dressed at that point. Just five minutes earlier and they would have got quite a view as the door was parallel to the bed. 

In the end, they did remind me to think, and if ever in doubt, to please report any suspicions anonymously. All in all, as police interactions go in my life, this doesn't get into the top 5 worse interactions. I imagine some guys might get super stressed in this situation, and even try to bolt (officer alluded this has happened before). 

[s0whatsnew?]

If they have reason to suspect it is a brothel, the girl is being exploited, etc, they have the cause to arrest you. Ignorance of the person paying isn't a defence. You can't say, "BUT I DIDN'T KNOW SHE WAS TRAFFICKED", the law is clear in that respect. I'm not sure someone has been convicted on that basis, but they certainly will use it to arrest you and gain the required details if you are being difficult.

Yes,  in trafficking cases and also underage issues - even if she looks 20 years old - are all treated as  'strict liability cases'.   ie,  what you  believed to be true is  irrelevant to what the law says you SHOULD have known or suspected.