Pure evil

[Southernbloke]

What the hell is going on with people killing defenceless animals with catapults. These monsters make me sick

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[Blackpool Rock]

Children who abuse animals often progress onto abusing people  Again a lot of this will be fuelled by social media but i'm thinking that this sort of thing will have always happened to some extent.

There is however a glaring inconsistency in that kids doing this are seen as bad however rich kids going on a "shoot" with shotguns or chasing half way across the country on horses with a pack of hounds to kill a fox is still apparently OK despite being illegal

[badsin]

These monsters make me sick.

Agreed.
I'm sure there's a link between childhood cruelty to animals, and growing up to be a psychopath.

[Darren101]

I don’t care what anyone says but these ‘kids’ should all be killed. They’ll just grow up to be pyschos.

[Southernbloke]

Personally I’d make them clean the Lions cage in a zoo with the animals still in there

[Colston36]

Children who abuse animals often progress onto abusing people  Again a lot of this will be fuelled by social media but i'm thinking that this sort of thing will have always happened to some extent.

There is however a glaring inconsistency in that kids doing this are seen as bad however rich kids going on a "shoot" with shotguns or chasing half way across the country on horses with a pack of hounds to kill a fox is still apparently OK despite being illegal

One of the many reasons why I have always considered social media largely anti-social

[Stevelondon]

It won’t be long before catapults are used again people. Much the same way as knives are used now.
I’m thinking along the lines of a new gang member going through the initiation if he wishes to remain in the gang etc.

[badsin]

It won’t be long before catapults are used again people. Much the same way as knives are used now.
I’m thinking along the lines of a new gang member going through the initiation if he wishes to remain in the gang etc.

amazingly easy to buy online.
Even slingshot's or shepherds slings easily found. I suppose anything can be dangerous in the hands of a twat.

[scutty brown]

When I was a kid we lived off rabbits and the occasional pheasant - killed with catapults and old 1" ball bearings out of tanks. We used the catapult my father had taken with him into Europe after D-Day. He'd guessed that there would be a need to supplement army rations, and he was right. Post war, rationing was still in place and catching rabbits was commonplace, even after rationing ended the habit took a long time to die out.

But before anyone gets too sniffy about the animals
Rabbits - vermin
Grey squirrels - vermin
Canada Geese - vermin
Foxes - from a farmers point of view, vermin
If you have these on your land you're legally obliged to control them, usually by poison. Is that better than a bang to the head with a ball bearing followed by a broken/wrung neck?

[puntingking]

I don’t care what anyone says but these ‘kids’ should all be killed. They’ll just grow up to be pyschos.

by a catapult..

[puntingking]

What the hell is going on with people killing defenceless animals with catapults. These monsters make me sick

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I have never seen such evil via the sky news video and heard something as evil as this for a long time. I put this on the same evil scale as the nurse letby case. 

[FLYING BLUE]

One of the many reasons why I have always considered social media largely anti-social

Me too, I despise it

[badsin]

When I was a kid we lived off rabbits and the occasional pheasant - killed with catapults and old 1" ball bearings out of tanks. We used the catapult my father had taken with him into Europe after D-Day. He'd guessed that there would be a need to supplement army rations, and he was right. Post war, rationing was still in place and catching rabbits was commonplace, even after rationing ended the habit took a long time to die out.

But before anyone gets too sniffy about the animals
Rabbits - vermin
Grey squirrels - vermin
Canada Geese - vermin
Foxes - from a farmers point of view, vermin
If you have these on your land you're legally obliged to control them, usually by poison. Is that better than a bang to the head with a ball bearing followed by a broken/wrung neck?

Good valid points when dealing with vermin, or providing food.
These are  deliberate acts of cruelty.

[daviemac]

Grey squirrels - vermin

It's actually illegal to release a grey squirrel or allow one to escape into the wild, if one is caught alive it's a legal requirement for it to be humanely killed.

[scutty brown]

It's actually illegal to release a grey squirrel or allow one to escape into the wild, if one is caught alive it's a legal requirement for it to be humanely killed.

Canada geese are in the same category

[puntingking]

It's actually illegal to release a grey squirrel or allow one to escape into the wild, if one is caught alive it's a legal requirement for it to be humanely killed.

Why Would that be the case? 

[scutty brown]

Why Would that be the case? 

Because they're foreign alien destructive pests

[MissWolf]

Why Would that be the case? 

They are a non native invasive species and they carry squirrel pox.

Greys are fairly immune to the virus, however our native red squirrel is not and they succumb to it, greys have wiped out the native red squirrel population over vast areas of the UK

They are bigger, heavier and carry this virus, that means they out compete the smaller more specialist reds for food as well which is also an issue.

They do immense damage to trees, especially younger trees, Oak and beech are particularly vulnerable to attack, the grey will strip the bark from bottom to top of trees up to 20yo, ive seen them do this in person, they do it in the spring time especially as they want the sap that is rising, its sweet and they get addicted to it, almost pissed on it, as the bark is removed the tree bleeds and they drink that sap.

They cost the forests industry in this country hundreds of thousands in damages,  they take insulation of pipes in lofts and will take the insulation off electric cables, grey squirrel damage has caused fires in buildings due to this.

[RandomGuy99]

They are a non native invasive species and they carry squirrel pox.

Greys are fairly immune to the virus, however our native red squirrel is not and they succumb to it, greys have wiped out the native red squirrel population over vast areas of the UK

They are bigger, heavier and carry this virus, that means they out compete the smaller more specialist reds for food as well which is also an issue.

They do immense damage to trees, especially younger trees, Oak and beech are particularly vulnerable to attack, the grey will strip the bark from bottom to top of trees up to 20yo, ive seen them do this in person, they do it in the spring time especially as they want the sap that is rising, its sweet and they get addicted to it, almost pissed on it, as the bark is removed the tree bleeds and they drink that sap.

They cost the forests industry in this country hundreds of thousands in damages,  they take insulation of pipes in lofts and will take the insulation off electric cables, grey squirrel damage has caused fires in buildings due to this.

And they screw your fence panels with their claws.  I have 4 that visit my garden and keep digging up the flower bulbs.

[finn5555]

They are a non native invasive species and they carry squirrel pox.

Greys are fairly immune to the virus, however our native red squirrel is not and they succumb to it, greys have wiped out the native red squirrel population over vast areas of the UK

They are bigger, heavier and carry this virus, that means they out compete the smaller more specialist reds for food as well which is also an issue.

They do immense damage to trees, especially younger trees, Oak and beech are particularly vulnerable to attack, the grey will strip the bark from bottom to top of trees up to 20yo, ive seen them do this in person, they do it in the spring time especially as they want the sap that is rising, its sweet and they get addicted to it, almost pissed on it, as the bark is removed the tree bleeds and they drink that sap.

They cost the forests industry in this country hundreds of thousands in damages,  they take insulation of pipes in lofts and will take the insulation off electric cables, grey squirrel damage has caused fires in buildings due to this.

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[daviemac]

Why Would that be the case? 

Because they are a non native invasive pest that damage the native wildlife of this country especially the native red squirrel and invasive species cost the economy an estimated £1.7 billion per year in this country.

There are three reasons we control grey squirrels:

Their potential to damage to your home, business and health
The destruction of UK forests
The impact on our native wildlife, in particular the red squirrel.

Enough of a reason?

 

[scutty brown]

And they screw your fence panels with their claws.  I have 4 that visit my garden and keep digging up the flower bulbs.

Get an air rifle - or a catapult - and shoot the furry rats.
Never eaten it myself, but they're reputed to taste of nuts

[badsin]

Get an air rifle - or a catapult - and shoot the furry rats.
Never eaten it myself, but they're reputed to taste of nuts

Beware may contain nuts....

[Colston36]

Beware may contain nuts....

You couldn't resist that, could you?

[badsin]

You couldn't resist that, could you?

Could be fatal if somebody has an allergy 

[MissWolf]

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In any kind of control there is the requirement to do so humanly.

[mr.bluesky]

And they screw your fence panels with their claws.  I have 4 that visit my garden and keep digging up the flower bulbs.

For a minute I thought you said they unscrew your fence panels with their claws  I had visions of them scampering  off with your garden fence panels tucked under their arms 

[puntingking]

Because they are a non native invasive pest that damage the native wildlife of this country especially the native red squirrel and invasive species cost the economy an estimated £1.7 billion per year in this country.

Enough of a reason?

I still could not knowingly harm any animal. I am a meat eater but I also admit that if I had to catch my own meat to eat I could not do it.

It's a catch 22 when it comes to these animals. I mean if you don't humanly kill them then other wildlife will start to suffer as other members have pointed out.

[finn5555]

I still could not knowingly harm any animal. I am a meat eater but I also admit that if I had to catch my own meat to eat I could not do it.

It's a catch 22 when it comes to these animals. I mean if you don't humanly kill them then other wildlife will start to suffer as other members have pointed out.

I am the same would rather feed them than kill them 😂

[mr.bluesky]

I am the same would rather feed them than kill them 😂

I would rather have Grey squirrels in my garden ( which I often have) than next door neighbours cat which shits all over the place and scratches up the flowers and makes that horrible meewing sound in the early hours of the morning. 

[PepeMAGA]

I would rather have Grey squirrels in my garden ( which I often have) than next door neighbours cat which shits all over the place and scratches up the flowers and makes that horrible meewing sound in the early hours of the morning. 

Yes agree, I see cats as being pests themselves. The amount of birds they kill if nothing else.
Grey squirrels there has been some success with birth control, but I think three would need to be active hunting to reduce their population to a significant level.

[MissWolf]

Yes agree, I see cats as being pests themselves. The amount of birds they kill if nothing else.
Grey squirrels there has been some success with birth control, but I think three would need to be active hunting to reduce their population to a significant level.

There is actually research and trials going on atm to feed greys with food laced with a form of birth control

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[PepeMAGA]

There is actually research and trials going on atm to feed greys with food laced with a form of birth control

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Yes it's been going on for a while I think, at least before covid

[DastardlyDick]

Never eaten it myself, but they're reputed to taste of nuts

Another lesser known invasive species is the Signal Crayfish - they've almost wiped out our native White Clawed Crayfish as they're bigger, more aggressive and carry a disease which kills the native version. The plus point is that they are very edible - tasting similar to lobster - and easy to catch using a thing like a lobster pot which you can buy for about a tenner from Amazon. You have to get a "licence" from the EA, but even that's free. A mate of mine who lives on a narrow boat does a mean linguine with them!

[badsin]

Another lesser known invasive species is the Signal Crayfish - they've almost wiped out our native White Clawed Crayfish as they're bigger, more aggressive and carry a disease which kills the native version. The plus point is that they are very edible - tasting similar to lobster - and easy to catch using a thing like a lobster pot which you can buy for about a tenner from Amazon. You have to get a "licence" from the EA, but even that's free. A mate of mine who lives on a narrow boat does a mean linguine with them!

There have been several prosecutions for this near me, whereby folks have been using these pots to catch the signal crayfish. I've seen the pots being pulled out of the river before and they were teaming with the thing's.
I've also seen kids using crabbing lines to catch them, some of the things are quite big.
The ea is now trying to get otter's in the river to eat the crayfish.

Agreed they are supposed to be quite tasty, plenty of YouTube vids on how to kill, prepare and cook them

[Blackpool Rock]

There have been several prosecutions for this near me, whereby folks have been using these pots to catch the signal crayfish. I've seen the pots being pulled out of the river before and they were teaming with the thing's.
I've also seen kids using crabbing lines to catch them, some of the things are quite big.
The ea is now trying to get otter's in the river to eat the crayfish.

Agreed they are supposed to be quite tasty, plenty of YouTube vids on how to kill, prepare and cook them

If it's an invasive species then why are they prosecuting people for catching them, surely they should be encouraging it 

[badsin]

If it's an invasive species then why are they prosecuting people for catching them, surely they should be encouraging it 

Because if the net's/pots they use are subsequently used in different water courses there is a risk of spreading the crayfish eggs between rivers / streams etc......making the problem worse

Which is why a licence is required from the ea, so they can check who/what is catching these thing's.
The prosecutions near me, were restaurant workers.

[Blackpool Rock]

Because if the net's/pots they use are subsequently used in different water courses there is a risk of spreading the crayfish eggs between rivers / streams etc......making the problem worse

Which is why a licence is required from the ea, so they can check who/what is catching these thing's.
The prosecutions near me, were restaurant workers.

That makes sense, thanks for the explanation 

[badsin]

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[Thecunninglinguist]

Why Would that be the case? 

It's in the Wildlife and Countryside Act.
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Not that I don't think those using inhumane methods of killing them should suffer the same fate.

[DastardlyDick]

Because if the net's/pots they use are subsequently used in different water courses there is a risk of spreading the crayfish eggs between rivers / streams etc......making the problem worse

Which is why a licence is required from the ea, so they can check who/what is catching these thing's.
The prosecutions near me, were restaurant workers.

There are also specific dimensions to the entrance which has to be below a certain diameter so that Otters cannot get in. Needless to say, the ones in Amazon are legit. I suspect the restaurant workers got done because they're selling them, which is ironic as that's what the things were first brought here for, to be farmed for food.