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Offline Darren101

I keep seeing posts about car thefts on ND.  Got fed up so uninstalled the app/alerts.  Mostly range rovers, fords, Lexus.

You can’t make this stuff up. One person quoted £48K insurance for a car woth £45K. How the car was worth £100K two years ago is crazy. Oh and Range Rovers insurance service couldn’t offer someone insurance for their Range Rover they just bought bought.  I could only chuckle.  What a waste of money althogh average seems to be £10K - 16K

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Is it bad in your area? I’m in London so it’s an epidemic


EDIT: I don't own a fancy car. Given the news coverage, I've been completely put off even considering getting a new car. Should I be in the market, one new criteria for searching is whether it's a target and stolen much!  What's the country turning into?
« Last Edit: February 05, 2024, 01:06:42 am by Darren101 »

Offline standardpostage

What is ND  :unknown:

googled it, all I can find is something about fishing  :unknown:
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Offline FLYING BLUE

What is ND  :unknown:

googled it, all I can find is something about fishing  :unknown:

Same here :unknown:

Offline Blackpool Rock

What is ND  :unknown:

googled it, all I can find is something about fishing  :unknown:
I'm guessing it's Next door a social media platform for people to post about local issues and events, normally full of posts from people complaining about dog walkers not picking their shit up in XYZ park or road

Anyway car insurance does seem to have shot up a lot in the last year or so however i'm not aware of that being down to an increase in car thefts but more down to basic inflation and the increase in the cost of parts and labour, I believe theft of catalytic converters may be a specific problem.

I remember back in the 80's when car theft did seem to be of epidemic proportions and security measures were basically crap, remember the talk about how 1 ford key would open any other ford  :scare:
It wasn't quite that bad but not far off, my mate asked me to get something out of his car once and said the keys are on the side, I picked up the 1st set of ford keys I saw which were actually his Dads and did after a fair bit of faffing around and wiggling the key in the lock manage to open the door.
I said his car was fucking hard to get in and he looked at me as if I was crazy then asked what set of keys i'd used so I showed him and he fell about laughing, when we then compared the keys his Dads transit key was about twice the size of his little Fiesta key  :D

I did have a couple of high performance cars around 15 - 20 years ago and they both needed trackers otherwise they weren't insured for theft
Not sure if Blackpool was considered a worse area than wherever the previous owner was based but i'd have thought the Manchester / Rochdale area wasn't much better but I had to have one fitted to the 1st car.
The guy who turned up to fit it basically said it had limited use as some smack head wouldn't try to steal the car as it was a given that it stood out and would almost certainly have a tracker so they'd go for a £500 Escort etc instead
He said they are mainly stolen to order by people with connections to the motor / garage trade and they would know what the tracker units look like, there are only about 5 or 6 places you can hide the units and they basically steal the car then drive it around the corner and start unbolting the various panels and taking out the back seats etc to remove the unit then drive off, when the police turn up they find a tracker unit on a grass verge  :thumbsdown:

I'm just looking for insurance quotes and the renewal has gone up by about 50% from last year  :scare:
I always shop around and use comparison sites to get a better quote but this year i'm being quoted 20% more on the comparison site than the renewal for the same policy which seems strange  :unknown:

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Seemingly Range Rovers are stolen as the signal between the key/car is easy to hack and copy. RR's seem to end up getting shipped to Africa.
Pretty sure it's ford fiesta's which are the most stunning stolen car. Apparently fiesta's are pinched to be broken for parts

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BBC News - Our Range Rovers are not UK's most-stolen car, says Jaguar Land Rover
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Offline Blackpool Rock

BBC News - Our Range Rovers are not UK's most-stolen car, says Jaguar Land Rover
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Hmmm I wonder what the real truth is here  :unknown:

Seems like the JLR guy is quoting thefts per vehicle of the latest model which may have improved security but what about the stuff that's a few years old  :unknown:
Also pure thefts by number of vehicles may be lower but what about as a % of cars on the road, i'd expect more Fiestas to be stolen if there are more of them around and as already mentioned they are stolen to break for parts

Offline chrishornx

let's put some perspective on all this about Range Rovers being high risk. They were an easy target but they are not any longer

of the latest range some 12,800 have been produced and only 11 have been stolen which is a pretty low rate. Yes they were a higher risk but not any longer.

as for Fiestas being the most stunning car stolen I can't agree with that  they are pretty mundane in comparison to many makes and models. Apologies to Fiesta owners

Offline Blackpool Rock

let's put some perspective on all this about Range Rovers being high risk. They were an easy target but they are not any longer

of the latest range some 12,800 have been produced and only 11 have been stolen which is a pretty low rate. Yes they were a higher risk but not any longer.

as for Fiestas being the most stunning car stolen I can't agree with that  they are pretty mundane in comparison to many makes and models. Apologies to Fiesta owners
I assumed that the word stunning was a typo but couldn't work out what it was supposed to be  :unknown:

Offline chrishornx

I assumed that the word stunning was a typo but couldn't work out what it was supposed to be  :unknown:

pretty, attractive, gorgeous ?

Offline Blackpool Rock

pretty, attractive, gorgeous ?
I think it's probably meant to be the most common car stolen which would make sense  :unknown:
I'm sure Badsin will confirm either way

Offline sir wanksalot

I'm guessing it's Next door a social media platform for people to post about local issues and events, normally full of posts from people complaining about dog walkers not picking their shit up in XYZ park or road


Yep-It's Nextdoor. Like Facebook but the people you interact with are based on your home location.

I went down that rabbit hole during Covid and then uninstalled the app as I found I was arguing with complete strangers about insignificant matters

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I assumed that the word stunning was a typo but couldn't work out what it was supposed to be  :unknown:

Correct a fat fingered typo  :hi:

Offline Darren101

Sorry chaps, yes ND = NextDoor

Too many people with half a braincell moaning over there complaining about every Little thing

Car insurance costs are up in general due to various factors, yes but fuck me if I had to cough up £10K a year to insure a Range Rover.  That's enough to buy a decent used car. My car cost less than that.
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Offline Darren101

BBC News - Our Range Rovers are not UK's most-stolen car, says Jaguar Land Rover
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I saw that.  That makes it okay then?  (I would ask Jag Range Rover) Think they were 4th or 5th ranked most stolen.  They aren't cheap to buy compared to a Fiesta so insurance is much higher for Range Rovers compared to  a less prestigious make.

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That may be the case, but as Christine Keller said many years ago, he would say that wouldn't he?
Even if I had the sort of money to buy one, I wouldn't - the quality of the engineering/electrics has gone downhill, and you'll be waiting a long time for recovery as they have to be HiAbed due to the permanent 4 wheel drive.

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That may be the case, but as Christine Keller said many years ago, he would say that wouldn't he?
Even if I had the sort of money to buy one, I wouldn't - the quality of the engineering/electrics has gone downhill, and you'll be waiting a long time for recovery as they have to be HiAbed due to the permanent 4 wheel drive.

Get the quote right. It was Mandy Rice Davies
"Well he would, wouldn't he?"

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Offline clittielicker

Car theft has got to be down to lack of punishment. If you report car theft you will just be told "it is only a car theft and a claim number given". It is NOT only a car theft it is a growing crime that the police, government, car manufacturers and courts  need to do something about. A car theft means my insurance increases, not my fault by having an accident, but it is all because of police, government, car manufacturers and courts not doing enough.
Any car theft by non citizens of the country should be deported and banned from the country. Any citizen of the country found stealing cars for any reason be punished, and I do not mean little fines or community work, prison is the answer and I mean prison not the hilton hotels our jails get confused with. Why is it that there is billions of cameras that can spot if I do 33mph in a 30mph zone but there is no trace of a stolen car. As for any cars going on ferries or through the channel tunnel should be having ALL docs checked properly, VIN numbers to be checked against owners papers, passport and payment method and all to match or face delays.

Offline JontyR

Car theft has got to be down to lack of punishment. If you report car theft you will just be told "it is only a car theft and a claim number given". It is NOT only a car theft it is a growing crime that the police, government, car manufacturers and courts  need to do something about. A car theft means my insurance increases, not my fault by having an accident, but it is all because of police, government, car manufacturers and courts not doing enough.
Any car theft by non citizens of the country should be deported and banned from the country. Any citizen of the country found stealing cars for any reason be punished, and I do not mean little fines or community work, prison is the answer and I mean prison not the hilton hotels our jails get confused with. Why is it that there is billions of cameras that can spot if I do 33mph in a 30mph zone but there is no trace of a stolen car. As for any cars going on ferries or through the channel tunnel should be having ALL docs checked properly, VIN numbers to be checked against owners papers, passport and payment method and all to match or face delays.

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Offline DastardlyDick

Get the quote right. It was Mandy Rice Davies
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Thank you for the correction - I'll call it a "Senior moment"  :D

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Car theft has got to be down to lack of punishment. If you report car theft you will just be told "it is only a car theft and a claim number given". It is NOT only a car theft it is a growing crime that the police, government, car manufacturers and courts  need to do something about. A car theft means my insurance increases, not my fault by having an accident, but it is all because of police, government, car manufacturers and courts not doing enough.
Any car theft by non citizens of the country should be deported and banned from the country. Any citizen of the country found stealing cars for any reason be punished, and I do not mean little fines or community work, prison is the answer and I mean prison not the hilton hotels our jails get confused with. Why is it that there is billions of cameras that can spot if I do 33mph in a 30mph zone but there is no trace of a stolen car. As for any cars going on ferries or through the channel tunnel should be having ALL docs checked properly, VIN numbers to be checked against owners papers, passport and payment method and all to match or face delays.

I agree. However that is a cost to the police, investigating crime, putting criminals behind bars etc.
Whereas a penalty notice for a minor speeding offence is an income stream....just the postage cost...

Offline Thecunninglinguist

I agree. However that is a cost to the police, investigating crime, putting criminals behind bars etc.
Whereas a penalty notice for a minor speeding offence is an income stream....just the postage cost...

The "police" derive no income whatever from fines or fixed penalties. The money goes straight to the government and used as the rest of general taxation, like the VEL.