The anti STD thread

[Hardman123]

There are multiple risks with punting… getting caught by the wife, reputational damage, falling in love, getting robbed ect

But the main one I want to discuss is health. STDs. Oral thrush. Skin rashes.

What do your folks do to prevent problems besides showering and wearing a condom?

Do you regularly get tested? Any tips and tricks?

Anyone taking prophylactic azithromycin lol?

[daviemac]

There's something wrong if you don't know how to look after your own sexual health.

However have a look at the punting wiki. - External Link/Members Only all the answers are there. Also there's loads of information on the NHS website.

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[RandomGuy99]

Yes, obviously we get tested regularly. Home testing or at your local GUM clinic.

If we do get an STI we get treated.

Like an sensible person would.

[JustaPunter]

There are multiple risks with punting… getting caught by the wife, reputational damage, falling in love, getting robbed ect

But the main one I want to discuss is health. STDs. Oral thrush. Skin rashes.

What do your folks do to prevent problems besides showering and wearing a condom?

Do you regularly get tested? Any tips and tricks?

Anyone taking prophylactic azithromycin lol?

Why on earth would you take prophylactic azithromycin ?

Do you have COPD?

Get yourself tested regularly.

Most of the population has HPV anyway, though most are asymptomatic

Nothing in life is without risk.

Maybe this isn’t for you?

[Rocket1927]

Yes, obviously we get tested regularly. Home testing or at your local GUM clinic.

If we do get an STI we get treated.

Like an sensible person would.

  what home testing kits and are they as good as going gum clinic for test

[Steely Dan]

Anyone taking prophylactic azithromycin lol?

The worst idea ever.  EVER! Over use of antibiotics is causing resistance in the population.  This is leading to super bugs that soon can't be stopped, ending routine surgery such as hip replacements.  This is a severe threat to our society.

Laugh out fucking loud?

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[daviemac]

The worst idea ever.  EVER! Over use of antibiotics is causing resistance in the population.  This is leading to super bugs that soon can't be stopped, ending routine surgery such as hip replacements.  This is a severe threat to our society.

Laugh out fucking loud?

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[Puntingutils]

Don't brush your teeth within 2-4 hours of the meer. Can cause microtears in gums.
Ise mouth wash after meet.
Make sure to allow 48 hours between the time you have your bits and a meet, to allow any cuts to heal
Btw you don't really get oral thrush via sex, unless you have hiv.
Get tested regularly
To be as safe as possible: don't kiss, only get OW, and obviously stay protected

[jamiekinkxxx]

I get tested regularly via kit sent out by post and free postage back.

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- Complete questionnaire
- Request kit
- Arrives within 2 days
- Take test
- Post back
- Results online within 2 days

You can test as regularly as you wish. No cost, just time. They even email you if you have gone a while without testing.

Simple

Just had my latest results... all negative

[daviemac]

Register with External Link/Members Only

Not much good if you aren't in London. -

SHL.UK is a discreet sexual health service for Londoners.

[RandomGuy99]

  what home testing kits and are they as good as going gum clinic for test

There's External Link/Members Only

Quick delivery and test results. Discreet packaging.

A GUM can probably do a wider range of tests, but the home testing kit covers the most common tests such as HIV.

[jamiekinkxxx]

Not much good if you aren't in London. -

True. Sorry, in which case use External Link/Members Only

This is the main umbrella site for those outside of London that can use External Link/Members Only

[jamiekinkxxx]

External Link/Members Only will screen you for

Chlamydia (Urine Sample)
Chlamydia (Rectal Swab Sample)
Chlamydia (Pharyngeal Swab Sample)
Gonorrhoea (Urine Sample)
Gonorrhoea (Rectal Swab Sample)
Gonorrhoea (Pharyngeal Swab Sample)
HIV (Finger-prick Serum Sample)
Syphilis (Finger-prick Serum Sample)
Hepatitis B (Finger-prick Serum Sample)
Hepatitis C (Finger-prick Serum Sample)

[simon07]

Many thanks for this info.
How much does it cost?
What is the packaging like? Bit worried re home delivery.

[simon07]

Not available in areas above North London like Hatfield etc.
NHS suggested a private company External Link/Members Only

And it is £99 plus £30 add ons if want more specific tests.

How often do people get checked once a year?
The transfer of STI clinics by the NHS to local authority has reduced access and increased barriers to testing.

[RandomGuy99]

Many thanks for this info.
How much does it cost?
What is the packaging like? Bit worried re home delivery.

SH24 is free. You can see the envelope on their website.


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[jamiekinkxxx]

Many thanks for this info.
How much does it cost?
What is the packaging like? Bit worried re home delivery.

Kit I use is FREE

[jamiekinkxxx]

Not available in areas above North London like Hatfield etc.
NHS suggested a private company External Link/Members Only

And it is £99 plus £30 add ons if want more specific tests.

How often do people get checked once a year?
The transfer of STI clinics by the NHS to local authority has reduced access and increased barriers to testing.

Every 2-3 months. I don't punt that regularly TBH

Try External Link/Members Only as they are free and should cover your area

[Jonestown]

What is the packaging like? Bit worried re home delivery.

If you are worried about home delivery you can arrange with SHL to pick the package up from your local STD clinic.

Well you can in London, so I'd imagine its a service available wherever they operate.

[simon07]

SH24 is free. You can see the envelope on their website.

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Thanks sadly they do not operate in my area.

[daviemac]

Thanks sadly they do not operate in my area.

Nor mine.

[RandomGuy99]

Thanks sadly they do not operate in my area.

Interesting, I always thought they operated nationwide, but their website does say they only operate in certain areas External Link/Members Only

[speedygonzal]

What could possibly go wrong?   the answer could mean something different to different people.

The consequences
For some it can be solved with a 30-day course of antibiotics.   For other desperately Trying to explain to the wife how she got infected withe the STD in question.

[Td51337]

I use online services to get checked like the others. They send out a pack and you send it back, get results online.

Reminds me to order one as i buried my bag inside a WG last night giving it some enthusiastic doggy. No cum but i was probably BB for a while before we realised.

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[Strawberry]

Interesting, I always thought they operated nationwide, but their website does say they only operate in certain areas External Link/Members Only

Correct depends on the deal with the local authority, never yet covered my area I would imagine it's a contract of some sort negotiated with individual NHS trusts but this is only a guess.

[simon07]

Maybe the NHS subcontracts to a private provider that has capacity?

Of course the local authority (not the NHS as they were told to get rid of it alongside public health) has to have the funds to pay for it. Example of postcode lottery?

[stampjones]

If you are worried about home delivery you can arrange with SHL to pick the package up from your local STD clinic.

Well you can in London, so I'd imagine its a service available wherever they operate.

You dont even need to arrange it. Fill in the consultation on the website. It will tell you what test kit you need. Turn up at a clinic and ask for the kit. Fill in the code, complete at your leisure and use the pre-paid package to send it back. The test is a thumb prick for syph, hiv and urine for chlam, gon. The result is usually available in a couple of days. All very discrete and easy.

[Malvolio]

Don't brush your teeth within 2-4 hours of the meer. Can cause microtears in gums.
Ise mouth wash after meet.
Make sure to allow 48 hours between the time you have your bits and a meet, to allow any cuts to heal
Btw you don't really get oral thrush via sex, unless you have hiv.
Get tested regularly
To be as safe as possible: don't kiss, only get OW, and obviously stay protected

To be as safe as possible, don't punt.  It's an activity that comes with risks; you can minimise them but you can't avoid them.

[uncle jessie]

Many thanks for this info.
How much does it cost?
What is the packaging like? Bit worried re home delivery.

Apparently the postmen can tell the origin of pre paid packages by the info on them , so if the postie grins when he sees you it's probably your lovehoney delivery  . I know my DR Fox orders sometimes turn up ripped open to see what is inside , guess someone in the system is looking for viagra etc to steal .

[RadioKid]

Taking antibiotics without prescription is a big no no.

[Freddybigstuff1983]

If home delivery is a problem, WebMD will deliver full screen STI kits to a local DPD pickup location
Only problem is its about £100

[RandomGuy99]

I did a free home delivery STI test last week. I got my results via text within 2 days of returning the samples. Excellent service.

[Jacksonwood]

An interesting thread.

I'm mindful of the risks as if I got an STI I'd have a lot of explaining to do with the wife.

The backdrop is correct there have been record numbers quite a few STIs that can be transmitted but I still take the risk. External Link/Members Only

I know OWO is inherently risky - Syphilis, gonorrhea, chlamydia and herpes are all transittable via fellatio/ cunnilingus aka (blowjob/ going down on her).

Rimming / analingus adds additional risk of Hep A/B not to mention intestinal infections by parasite or bacteria.

So my strategy is

Rimming - I never do rimming unless the SP has a recent STI test.

OWO - I love oral and will only do OWO if I have no cuts/nicks or leave it post shaving / waxing for 3 days plus.

Drinking from the furry cup - I love this and just crack on but always take mouthwash and gargle / rinse after.

It probably goes without saying but I don't see anyone that has BB on their profile.

I also get regular tests (monthly).

Quite a few STIs can be treated effectively either with antibiotics or by an injection (gonorrhoea is a needle in the arse!!). But and for me the BIG but is that I would have to somehow explain to the wife that she needs to get treated too - which TBH I'd have no idea how to drop that into a conversation.

Like others have said there's risk which you can mitigate through choices but unfortunately I can't get off on OW (sexylittlesecret in Peterborough is the only exception) so I accept the risk and mitigate as above.

Over 20 years of punting and probably over 200 punts under my belt this has served me well.
Hope this helps 👍

[RandomGuy99]

An interesting thread.

I'm mindful of the risks as if I got an STI I'd have a lot of explaining to do with the wife.

The backdrop is correct there have been record numbers quite a few STIs that can be transmitted but I still take the risk. External Link/Members Only

I know OWO is inherently risky - Syphilis, gonorrhea, chlamydia and herpes are all transittable via fellatio/ cunnilingus aka (blowjob/ going down on her).

Rimming / analingus adds additional risk of Hep A/B not to mention intestinal infections by parasite or bacteria.

So my strategy is

Rimming - I never do rimming unless the SP has a recent STI test.

OWO - I love oral and will only do OWO if I have no cuts/nicks or leave it post shaving / waxing for 3 days plus.

Drinking from the furry cup - I love this and just crack on but always take mouthwash and gargle / rinse after.

It probably goes without saying but I don't see anyone that has BB on their profile.

I also get regular tests (monthly).

Quite a few STIs can be treated effectively either with antibiotics or by an injection (gonorrhoea is a needle in the arse!!). But and for me the BIG but is that I would have to somehow explain to the wife that she needs to get treated too - which TBH I'd have no idea how to drop that into a conversation.

Like others have said there's risk which you can mitigate through choices but unfortunately I can't get off on OW (sexylittlesecret in Peterborough is the only exception) so I accept the risk and mitigate as above.

Over 20 years of punting and probably over 200 punts under my belt this has served me well.
Hope this helps 👍

Isn't getting tested monthly overdoing it as some infections take a while to show.

An SP having had an STI recently (define recently) may not help if she has then had sex with 12 people since the test. Just because the test was done recently doesn't really mean they're any less risky unless they've had sex with nobody since the test

[Jacksonwood]

I have about 4 punts a month so monthly is a strategy I'm happy with..

[RandomGuy99]

I have about 4 punts a month so monthly is a strategy I'm happy with..

I used to do 12 a month but I didn't test monthly.

From the UK Health Standards Agency

When should I get tested?

It is a good idea to get tested, especially if you have recently changed partners or think you were exposed to an STI.

You don’t need to have lots of partners to get an infection, as many people with STIs have no symptoms and are unaware they’re passing on an infection to their sexual partner.

Regular testing for HIV and STIs is essential for good sexual health, and everyone should have an STI screen, including an HIV test, annually if having condomless sex with new or casual partners.

If you’re a student going to university for the first time or returning for a new year, it’s a good idea to get tested before you start having sex.

Women and other people with a womb or ovaries aged under 25 years who are sexually active should be screened for chlamydia on change of sexual partner or annually, and gay, bisexual and other men who have sex with men should test for HIV and STIs annually or every 3 months if having condomless sex with new or casual partners.

If you have had sex without using condoms in the last 3 days and think you were exposed to HIV then don’t wait for a postal test - find HIV post exposure prophylaxis (PEP) services here or for out of hours support you can get PrEP from A&E

[Jacksonwood]

Whatever works and you're comfortable with is all that matters. My point is we all have different attitudes with regards to the likelihood of contracting and STI and the impact it will cause hence different mitigation in place

[RandomGuy99]

Whatever works and you're comfortable with is all that matters. My point is we all have different attitudes with regards to the likelihood of contracting and STI and the impact it will cause hence different mitigation in place

My point was that some infections take time to show, so testing every month doesn't provide extra protection as you may miss an infection.

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[stampjones]

My point was that some infections take time to show, so testing every month doesn't provide extra protection as you may miss an infection.

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That makes no sense. If he wants to get tested every day its up to him. Why do you even care 🤷‍♂️

[Punting2022]

Don't brush your teeth within 2-4 hours of the meer. Can cause microtears in gums.
Ise mouth wash after meet.
Make sure to allow 48 hours between the time you have your bits and a meet, to allow any cuts to heal
Btw you don't really get oral thrush via sex, unless you have hiv.
Get tested regularly
To be as safe as possible: don't kiss, only get OW, and obviously stay protected

So if a punter wakes up at 9 has a punt at 11. No Brush. Smelly breath will put the prosse off

[RandomGuy99]

You always go for the full protection option, but I can't see it being much fun and I don't look good in orange.


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[JustaPunter]

So if a punter wakes up at 9 has a punt at 11. No Brush. Smelly breath will put the prosse off

It’s called mouthwash.

And he is correct brushing your teeth causes bleeding, which means easy access for infections.

[JustaPunter]

My point was that some infections take time to show, so testing every month doesn't provide extra protection as you may miss an infection.

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Testing weekly may seem like overkill but there is always a period when you are infected but pre symptomatic, or the symptoms are so minor you haven’t noticed.

Would you prefer to see an SP who is tested once a year or once a week?

[RandomGuy99]

Testing weekly may seem like overkill but there is always a period when you are infected but pre symptomatic, or the symptoms are so minor you haven’t noticed.

Would you prefer to see an SP who is tested once a year or once a week?

I'd prefer one who is tested every 3 months as per the guidance as testing weekly doesn't allow time for any infections you have to become detectable by the tests.

[Jacksonwood]

Really - consider this !

In three months she would have probably had sex with between 5 and 50 punters a week. (Take your pic). Even at the lower end that's  87 punters, upper end much more !

If you see one tested every three months any Stis contracted and had sufficient viral loading to be detectable in that three months will show.

But what  if you'd seen her and she'd been tested a month earlier it would also show stis that had been contracted in the three months prior.

I'd be steering well clear of someone who shags over 300 men a year who only gets tested 4 times a year !

The guidance shows that testing is optimal at 3 months due to viral loading, but she'll be getting railed every  day by a different guy so it's a rolling 3 month window of risk - so testing more frequently is effective.

[RandomGuy99]

Really - consider this !

In three months she would have probably had sex with between 5 and 50 punters a week. (Take your pic). Even at the lower end that's 450 punters, upper end much more !

If you see one tested every three months any Stis contracted and had sufficient viral loading to be detectable in that three months will show.

But what  if you'd seen her and she'd been tested a month earlier it would also show stis that had been contracted in the three months prior.

I'd be steering well clear of someone who shags over 1000 men a year who only gets tested 4 times a year !

I leave the guidance to the medical experts.

[Doc Holliday]

How does either party know how often the other is tested? Do people ask to see results?

[Doc Holliday]

I leave the guidance to the medical experts.

Which you have already linked to and which is correct. 

[Doc Holliday]

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More general information regarding safer sex guidance and the importance of History taking and identifying higher risk groups and those engaging in higher risk sexual activities.

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[JustaPunter]

I'd prefer one who is tested every 3 months as per the guidance as testing weekly doesn't allow time for any infections you have to become detectable by the tests.

I suggest you reread what you just wrote because it makes zero sense.

And I said once a week or once a year.

If you test weekly then any infection will show up earlier

Most medical guidance is based partly on cost not just what is most efficient.

Hence why during Covid Film Productions were allowed with a clear PCR required before going on site and then Daily Lateral Flows.

Because it catches infections when they are lore symptomatic

Also look up the word Guideline, HCP regularly work outside of guidelines when they feel the need, that why they are called guidelines and not protocols.