Agencies

[rhedin]

It seems that most people here use AW, but are there anyone here who use agencies?

I have never used AW,  I always use an agency.
 

[Matium]

Is there anyone here who knows how long a piece of string is or if the pope is a Catholic?

Of course the men here use agencies!

Daft questions deserve daft answers.

[fredpunter]

It seems that most people here use AW, but are there anyone here who use agencies?

I have never used AW,  I always use an agency.

As someone who has only ever used an agency three times before discovering AW, and has never used once since, can I ask why you never use AW?

[rhedin]

As someone who has only ever used an agency three times before discovering AW, and has never used once since, can I ask why you never use AW?

Using an agency sort of guarantees that the lady is somewhat professional, that the chance that a violent pimp turns up is very low, that the photos resemble the lady, that the lady does not cancel in the last minute or does not answer the doorbell. etc. 

[rhedin]

Is there anyone here who knows how long a piece of string is or if the pope is a Catholic?

Of course the men here use agencies!

Daft questions deserve daft answers.

Thank you.

There have been lots of discussions here of AW, but I have never seen any discussion of agencies.

I though that the explanation was that maybe only newbies used agencies, and that experienced punters use AW.   

[yorkshire123]

It seems that most people here use AW, but are there anyone here who use agencies?

I have never used AW,  I always use an agency.

I will show you mine if you show me yours first 
(By the way don't accept such an offer from fireman sam)

[CBPaul]

Using an agency sort of guarantees that the lady is somewhat professional, that the chance that a violent pimp turns up is very low, that the photos resemble the lady, that the lady does not cancel in the last minute or does not answer the doorbell. etc.

I've very rarely used an agency so don't know enough to comment on the issue of pictures matching the prossie but the chances of a violent pimp turning up via an AW booked punt is very low too. I haven't had too many cancel or disappear from contact at the vital moment either.

As for answering the door, doesn't bother me if the prossie answers it. It is nice to see what you're getting sooner rather than later and is easier to walk out when you are right next to the door.

[house music dave]

Using an agency sort of guarantees that the lady is somewhat professional, that the chance that a violent pimp turns up is very low, that the photos resemble the lady, that the lady does not cancel in the last minute or does not answer the doorbell. etc.

every point you've raised does not stand up at all.

[fredpunter]

Using an agency sort of guarantees that the lady is somewhat professional, that the chance that a violent pimp turns up is very low, that the photos resemble the lady, that the lady does not cancel in the last minute or does not answer the doorbell. etc.

As I said, my experience of agencies is limited but of the three occasions, one was a lovely girl but services were limited, one was the girl in the photo but the photos were very flattering, and one was a different girl altogether, though she obviously thought I was extremely stupid cos she kept insisting she wasnt. The fact that the girl who turned up also had her photos on the agency website so not only did i know she wasnt who i booked but I also knew who she was didnt seem to phase her at all.

I've never encountered a violent pimp VIA AW.

[Ali Katt]

Using an agency sort of guarantees that the lady is somewhat professional, that the chance that a violent pimp turns up is very low, that the photos resemble the lady, that the lady does not cancel in the last minute or does not answer the doorbell. etc.

We've had agencies use fake pictures before (or as they call them "representations"), well documented on here, if it is a reputable agency they should use proper ones. You may find that the pictures are heavily airbrushed to remove tattoos, cellulite, stretchmarks or wrinkles or they could be a few years old - once again this is common with AW and agencies. Agreed that the girl is pretty much guaranteed to turn up, but will she be on time? and will she leave early? The pimp is always present, the driver is the pimp, but he won't enter your building.

Nothing is guaranteed in punting

[rhedin]

every point you've raised does not stand up at all.

Well, in the beginning, I did not used an agency, and all these things happened to me.

[smiths]

Using an agency sort of guarantees that the lady is somewhat professional, that the chance that a violent pimp turns up is very low, that the photos resemble the lady, that the lady does not cancel in the last minute or does not answer the doorbell. etc.

Absolute rubbish, punting through an Agency pimp is NO guarantee whatsoever in reality. Many Agencies in London at least over the years have been outed as lying scumbags who practised bait and switch.

I used to punt through Agencies years ago and most were total liars hence the reason i dont do so now. The only advantages an Agency offers to some is they MIGHT have multiple WGs on offer and/or be open 24/7. I can go to a party for the former and have no interest in the latter.

Agencies in London merely ensure the prices they charge are kept high compared to many Indies and even the parlour/brothel HOD at £130 an hour is cheaper than most where the entry price is often from £150 an hour.

If your intent on punting through Agencies hopefully those that do so will be able to offer advice and recommendations.

[Jimmyredcab]

Using an agency sort of guarantees that the lady is somewhat professional.

No, it doesn't.
I can only assume you are very new to punting.   

An agency can consist of a pimp with a laptop and a couple of girls.

Bait and switch is one of the biggest problems especially when there are blurred face pictures.   

[smiths]

Thank you.

There have been lots of discussions here of AW, but I have never seen any discussion of agencies.

I though that the explanation was that maybe only newbies used agencies, and that experienced punters use AW.

Some very experienced punters on here use Agencies in fact for their own reasons. An important point about Agencies is in some areas like the North East they are often cheaper than Indies in the same area, thats not often the case in London though which is where i punt.

[rhedin]

I have punted for about eight years. I did not use agencies in the beginning. I had some bad experiences of the type I mentioned above, but after I started using only agencies, I have had no bad experiences.

[Jimmyredcab]

I have punted for about eight years. I did not use agencies in the beginning. I had some bad experiences of the type I mentioned above, but after I started using only agencies, I have had no bad experiences.

Are you sure you don't run an agency.     

[Dani]

Lets try to explain why none of what you have said stands up.  For one the girl employs the agency to make bookings on her behalf so she is not guaranteed to be more professional at all.  Some Agencies tend to heavily photoshop photos so you never know if you have the right girl or not.  Some Agencies happily put up services that are not on offer.  The girl only gets a percentage of the money she takes from you so has less incentive to give a great service.  The girl can work for many agencies under different names so again has no reason to worry about returning clients so does not have to worry that a not so great service will ruin her business.  As before she can change from agency to agency using different names and photos so a bad review will make no difference to her.
As for a Pimp that is what an agency owner is.  They have also been known to happily threaten someone who has not been happy with the girl or service paid for.  Agencies will happily book a girl for 9 pm and again for 10pm not giving her time to get from one place to the next so they can be late.  Some agencies can be good but they have no control over how the girls act or work as they are paid to take bookings for the girls and that is it

Of the Indies I know on AW none have a pimp as they are independent.  A bad review can ruin them and they know it.  They rely on regulars so have everything to gain from giving a good service.  (not all as some are only doing it for a short time).  The tend to do incalls so they don't have to worry about being late.  There is no pimp to cause problems.  She gets all of the money paid to her so again has incentive to give a good service.  It is not so easy to reinvent herself so bad reviews would not be something they would want. You can also speak to the girl herself to enquire that services listed are on offer and that there are no extra costs at all.  You can also by speaking to her beforehand work out her attitude


I have to wonder myself if you are an agency owner as you are so adamant that only an agency would ensure you have no problems, yet there are hundreds of threads on here and other sites showing that agencies do screw over punters and don't care as long as they get their cut.  I shall now wait for your posts about how wonderful your favourite agency is which I am sure will be posted eventually.
Also AW was not that big 8 years ago compared to now and the variety of women has changed drastically in that time as have attitudes and services

[rhedin]

Are you sure you don't run an agency.     

Yes.


A few of the ladies I have met have not been top notch, but most of my experiences have been wonderful.

But I was wondering, are there any agencies that are to be avoided, and are there any agencies that can be recommend?

[cunnyhunt]

Yes.


A few of the ladies I have met have not been top notch, but most of my experiences have been wonderful.

But I was wondering, are there any agencies that are to be avoided, and are there any agencies that can be recommend?

Wonderful ?
 
A strange word to use to describe paid for sex. 

[rhedin]

Lets try to explain why none of what you have said stands up.  For one the girl employs the agency to make bookings on her behalf so she is not guaranteed to be more professional at all.  Some Agencies tend to heavily photoshop photos so you never know if you have the right girl or not.  Some Agencies happily put up services that are not on offer.  The girl only gets a percentage of the money she takes from you so has less incentive to give a great service.  The girl can work for many agencies under different names so again has no reason to worry about returning clients so does not have to worry that a not so great service will ruin her business.  As before she can change from agency to agency using different names and photos so a bad review will make no difference to her.
As for a Pimp that is what an agency owner is.  They have also been known to happily threaten someone who has not been happy with the girl or service paid for.  Agencies will happily book a girl for 9 pm and again for 10pm not giving her time to get from one place to the next so they can be late.  Some agencies can be good but they have no control over how the girls act or work as they are paid to take bookings for the girls and that is it

Of the Indies I know on AW none have a pimp as they are independent.  A bad review can ruin them and they know it.  They rely on regulars so have everything to gain from giving a good service.  (not all as some are only doing it for a short time).  The tend to do incalls so they don't have to worry about being late.  There is no pimp to cause problems.  She gets all of the money paid to her so again has incentive to give a good service.  It is not so easy to reinvent herself so bad reviews would not be something they would want. You can also speak to the girl herself to enquire that services listed are on offer and that there are no extra costs at all.  You can also by speaking to her beforehand work out her attitude


I have to wonder myself if you are an agency owner as you are so adamant that only an agency would ensure you have no problems, yet there are hundreds of threads on here and other sites showing that agencies do screw over punters and don't care as long as they get their cut.  I shall now wait for your posts about how wonderful your favourite agency is which I am sure will be posted eventually.
Also AW was not that big 8 years ago compared to now and the variety of women has changed drastically in that time as have attitudes and services

Thank you for this.

I will be happy to give the names of the agencies I use if that is allowed.

[rhedin]

Wonderful ?
 
A strange word to use to describe paid for sex. 

Well, it is true.

[Barry Shipton]

But I was wondering, are there any agencies that are to be avoided, and are there any agencies that can be recommend?

I suggest you hang around your regional forum a bit and read the threads and reviews because there are plenty of recommendations for both reliable agencies as well as ones to avoid like the plague.

There's no guarantee of anything from agencies or indies - it's always buyer beware. There are as many disorganised, robbing agencies run by violent pimps as there girls run by such pimps on AW - you have to watch for the signs.

That's the value of this forum with its reviews and advice from experienced punters who know the dodgy signs to look for to avoid both agencies and indies on AW who give punters a raw deal.

[AnthG]

Using an agency sort of guarantees that the lady is somewhat professional, that the chance that a violent pimp turns up is very low, that the photos resemble the lady, that the lady does not cancel in the last minute or does not answer the doorbell. etc.

I pretty much exclusively use agencies. And I would say using agencies have a lot of benefits over booking girls from AW.

But your list of reasons of why agencies are better are unfortunately completely incorrect.

I would say off the top of my head the main benefits of agencies over independents on AW is

1. You know an actual girl exists and its not some idiot who thought they'd make some money from setting up a fake profile just to get some money from Private Gallery Sales.

And

2. You know the girl is working that day or which days that week as agencies have calenders (girls are totally unreliable and an AW profile usually has no indication when a girl works)

[Toshiba]

i mainly 90% use agencies, ive experienced good and bad

the thing i like about an agency is if its totally shite they sometimes respond with a FREEBIE, try getting that from AW girls 

the ones in Newcastle are decent tbf

[rhedin]

I suggest you hang around your regional forum a bit and read the threads and reviews because there are plenty of recommendations for both reliable agencies as well as ones to avoid like the plague.

There's no guarantee of anything from agencies or indies - it's always buyer beware. There are as many disorganised, robbing agencies run by violent pimps as there girls run by such pimps on AW - you have to watch for the signs.

That's the value of this forum with its reviews and advice from experienced punters who know the dodgy signs to look for to avoid both agencies and indies on AW who give punters a raw deal.

Ok thank you for this.

[rhedin]

I pretty much exclusively use agencies. And I would say using agencies have a lot of benefits over booking girls from AW.

But your list of reasons of why agencies are better are unfortunately completely incorrect.

I would say off the top of my head the main benefits of agencies over independents on AW is

1. You know an actual girl exists and its not some idiot who thought they'd make some money from setting up a fake profile just to get some money from Private Gallery Sales.

And

2. You know the girl is working that day or which days that week as agencies have calenders (girls are totally unreliable and an AW profile usually has no indication when a girl works)

Good points. Thank you.

[house music dave]

Good points. Thank you.

If you did have a scout around your regional board, do you think you'd ever book an indie again? 

[Barry Shipton]

If you did have a scout around your regional board, do you think you'd ever book an indie again?

I think that depends on the board - no doubt London has more than its fair share of scammers. But I tend to read the North East board and dip into Scotland and Yorkshire. The Scots seem to be hard to please - or maybe they just have a dire selection as getting any good recommendations seem scarce.

But in the North East we have some established indies with really good reputations. Most of the comments seem to be about new agency girls who are often younger, less experienced and with a high turnover.

Likewise there's a few reliable agencies - but we've had some dire ones like North Angels which if it was still running I'd be recommending for the new warning thread for beating up/threatening a punter.

[Violet124]

I think it also depends on the agency as when I worked for one they had me listed as working every single day when I only worked 2 or 3 days for them in the end over a two week period. My experience with an agency was dreadful to be honest - I was taken to see someone who had asked for a party girl once (I'm not a party girl and had told them this). Also out of the £140 charged for the first hour the agency took £100. Yep, I was left with £40 for an hour's work. Also, I can agree with the negatives listed on here - because I only worked for them for about a week I didn't have any professional photos so they used some they found on the internet that looked a bit like me and I was always late to bookings because of travel time.

I'd say that in London there are mainly two types of agencies: The ones that provide outcalls at all hours for between £90-£150ish an hour. In this case the escorts work an evening for the agency, they will be in the car with the driver for the whole evening (8pm-5am) and be driven to bookings when (if) they come in. That's the kind I worked for and it was awful - no shower between bookings or a chance to clean myself up
The second type seem to be the more expensive type where the escorts usually have an incall flat somewhere in Central London, I don't really have much experience with them as none of them ever got back to me 

Anyway sorry, if you knew all that already just have been lurking for a while and came across the thread and thought it might be useful/relevant.

[smiths]

I think it also depends on the agency as when I worked for one they had me listed as working every single day when I only worked 2 or 3 days for them in the end over a two week period. My experience with an agency was dreadful to be honest - I was taken to see someone who had asked for a party girl once (I'm not a party girl and had told them this). Also out of the £140 charged for the first hour the agency took £100. Yep, I was left with £40 for an hour's work. Also, I can agree with the negatives listed on here - because I only worked for them for about a week I didn't have any professional photos so they used some they found on the internet that looked a bit like me and I was always late to bookings because of travel time.

I'd say that in London there are mainly two types of agencies: The ones that provide outcalls at all hours for between £90-£150ish an hour. In this case the escorts work an evening for the agency, they will be in the car with the driver for the whole evening (8pm-5am) and be driven to bookings when (if) they come in. That's the kind I worked for and it was awful - no shower between bookings or a chance to clean myself up
The second type seem to be the more expensive type where the escorts usually have an incall flat somewhere in Central London, I don't really have much experience with them as none of them ever got back to me 

Anyway sorry, if you knew all that already just have been lurking for a while and came across the thread and thought it might be useful/relevant.

An Agency Outcall in London for £90 an hour, not many if any genuine reputable Agencies in the sense the WG whose photos you see is the one who turns up charge as little as that in my observations. Often the entry price for a London Agency is £150 an hour and thats an Incall.

[Watts.E.Dunn]

I've only used agencies when visting London as I'm quite a way from the city and can't be doing with any sodding around but they have thus far resulted in decent punts and the girls are in the main are very well organised!.

Once I called to see a lady in the "Cloisters" and it was quite clear she wasn't at all well,  but offered to go ahead with the booking but I said take a few quid and call it a day your in no fit state to work, and the agency very quickly fixed me up with another girl just one floor higher up and that was a damm good punt:).

[Violet124]

An Agency Outcall in London for £90 an hour, not many if any genuine reputable Agencies in the sense the WG whose photos you see is the one who turns up charge as little as that in my observations. Often the entry price for a London Agency is £150 an hour and thats an Incall.

Yeh, that's what I mean - the £90-£150 outcall ones only care about getting their cut of the money and nothing else. It probably won't be the girl in the photos who shows up or if it is, she'll probably be tired and annoyed from sitting around in a car all evening. I'm advising against using them, not recommending them!

[Steely Dan]

Yeh, that's what I mean - the £90-£150 outcall ones only care about getting their cut of the money and nothing else. It probably won't be the girl in the photos who shows up or if it is, she'll probably be tired and annoyed from sitting around in a car all evening. I'm advising against using them, not recommending them!

Umm.. how do you know what others care about? And how do you know what percentage of agency photos are accurate versus indy girls? And how do you know about when others are tired or annoyed? And why are you advising?  I am happy to hear about the experience of punters, and I can live with girls describing their own experience, but I struggle with a WG who seems not to be an agency girl herself, telling others the bad things about agency girls.

[Violet124]

Umm.. how do you know what others care about? And how do you know what percentage of agency photos are accurate versus indy girls? And how do you know about when others are tired or annoyed? And why are you advising?  I am happy to hear about the experience of punters, and I can live with girls describing their own experience, but I struggle with a WG who seems not to be an agency girl herself, telling others the bad things about agency girls.

I worked for an agency for a couple of weeks and now work independently. I WAS describing my own experience. I'm saying nothing against girls who work for agencies just agencies themselves. Sorry, I know this is a punting forum just thought that might have been useful info for some of you, now wishing I hadn't bothered.

[Toshiba]

I worked for an agency for a couple of weeks and now work independently. I WAS describing my own experience. I'm saying nothing against girls who work for agencies just agencies themselves. Sorry, I know this is a punting forum just thought that might have been useful info for some of you, now wishing I hadn't bothered.

Here goes the bottom lip

Honestly they never learn

[rhedin]

Yeh, that's what I mean - the £90-£150 outcall ones only care about getting their cut of the money and nothing else. It probably won't be the girl in the photos who shows up or if it is, she'll probably be tired and annoyed from sitting around in a car all evening. I'm advising against using them, not recommending them!

I usually pay 200 for an outcall.

The ladies have all been pretty and nice and on time.   

[NIK]

In South Yorks many of the prossies featured on Awank are actually from parlours such as GFE or agencies such as Northern Belles. There are actually very few indies anyway so you wouldn't book through AW.

[NIK]

I usually pay 200 for an outcall.

The ladies have all been pretty and nice and on time.

Then you sure have been one lucky punter! 

[Ali Katt]

I think it also depends on the agency as when I worked for one they had me listed as working every single day when I only worked 2 or 3 days for them in the end over a two week period. My experience with an agency was dreadful to be honest - I was taken to see someone who had asked for a party girl once (I'm not a party girl and had told them this). Also out of the £140 charged for the first hour the agency took £100. Yep, I was left with £40 for an hour's work. Also, I can agree with the negatives listed on here - because I only worked for them for about a week I didn't have any professional photos so they used some they found on the internet that looked a bit like me and I was always late to bookings because of travel time.

Oh, my heart fucking bleeds. Try to working a restaurant for min wage and paying tax like I did when I was in my late teens and that doesn't take into account NI payments and travel. Because I lived with my parents, I had no real outgoings, but that paid less than £4 an hour bearing in mind this was some time ago. What about people that work min wage sometimes two jobs, and have two kids, pay tax, NI, have a car and a mortgage to pay off? And you moan about being earning 20 times what the get paid for "work" that equates to lying on your back, lying through your teeth and lying to the HMRC, Fucking sickening. Get some perspective. I couldn't care less if you say it's hard because Daddy's little princess has to fuck a man with a different skin colour or an obese ugly man with BO, because he's been working in a sweaty factory all day. You're not real to me, a fucking joker.

[Ali Katt]

In South Yorks many of the prossies featured on Awank are actually from parlours such as GFE or agencies such as Northern Belles. There are actually very few indies anyway so you wouldn't book through AW.

And even then I don't think there's an outcall agency that is £90 an hour in the whole of Yorkshire.

[Violet124]

Oh, my heart fucking bleeds. Try to working a restaurant for min wage and paying tax like I did when I was in my late teens and that doesn't take into account NI payments and travel. Because I lived with my parents, I had no real outgoings, but that paid less than £4 an hour bearing in mind this was some time ago. What about people that work min wage sometimes two jobs, and have two kids, pay tax, NI, have a car and a mortgage to pay off? And you moan about being earning 20 times what the get paid for "work" that equates to lying on your back, lying through your teeth and lying to the HMRC, Fucking sickening. Get some perspective. I couldn't care less if you say it's hard because Daddy's little princess has to fuck a man with a different skin colour or an obese ugly man with BO, because he's been working in a sweaty factory all day. You're not real to me, a fucking joker.

I pay national insurance and taxes - I don't know why you all assume that escorts don't. I shared my experience on a forum. Stop attacking me, I was simply describing my own experience. It doesn't make you look clever to throw insults at a sex worker for no reason, it just makes you look misogynistic and whorephobic. That's the last thing I have to say to any of you.