Dominatrix review

[syfodas]

Where would the best place to put a review of a dominatrix role play, could it go in escort review section?

[Waterhouse]

If it’s not a Massage review and not a TS review, then the Escort review section would be the best place for it.

[jamiekinkxxx]

If it’s not a Massage review and not a TS review, then the Escort review section would be the best place for it.

Which in our case from your other two reviews will be the London Escort review section 

[Thephoenix]

I vaguely recall a suggestion for a separate BDSM section from one of our dominatrix fans, but it was considered unwarranted because of the few number of reviews, and adding unnecessary complications to the site.

[jamiekinkxxx]

I vaguely recall a suggestion for a separate BDSM section from one of our dominatrix fans, but it was considered unwarranted because of the few number of reviews, and adding unnecessary complications to the site.

I'd go along with that. It's just an extra page (or pages for each region)... they did it for Trans, so why not BDSM style meets?

[Thephoenix]

I'd go along with that. It's just an extra page (or pages for each region)... they did it for Trans, so why not BDSM style meets?

It doesn't particularly bother me but I think the response at the time was that there are other specialist review sites for dominatrix reviews. Someone with a better memory will probably correct me.

[daviemac]

I'd go along with that. It's just an extra page (or pages for each region)... they did it for Trans, so why not BDSM style meets?

It doesn't particularly bother me but I think the response at the time was that there are other specialist review sites for dominatrix reviews. Someone with a better memory will probably correct me.

As you say Thephoenix there are specialist review sites for out and out dom, the way the site is now we have escort reviews for escort meets, massage reviews for massage with HE meets and TS reviews for TS meets. Any dom meet goes in the escort section.

We have enough difficulty deciding what level of sexual activity a massage booking turns into an escort booking without adding another section to each region. Apart from that I don't think there are enough pure BDSM bookings to warrant it.

[jamiekinkxxx]

As you say Thephoenix there are specialist review sites for out and out dom, the way the site is now we have escort reviews for escort meets, massage reviews for massage with HE meets and TS reviews for TS meets. Any dom meet goes in the escort section.

We have enough difficulty deciding what level of sexual activity a massage booking turns into an escort booking without adding another section to each region. Apart from that I don't think there are enough pure BDSM bookings to warrant it.

I'd go along with that. It is a shame as it would be easier to just look for 'pure' BDSM reviews, but as you say a dedicated page probably would not have many reviews in it even after a few years.

[Stevelondon]

I'd go along with that. It is a shame as it would be easier to just look for 'pure' BDSM reviews, but as you say a dedicated page probably would not have many reviews in it even after a few years.

I’d certainly go along with that.

There are also other reasons why someone might not want to post a review of a Dom meet…… even though it would be of significant value to the readers on here.

I like a bit of kink myself and over the years have visited one or two (probably more) pro mistresses. 😂
There has always been this thing going on that domination isn’t escorting. Domination/BDSM play isn’t about sex etc etc.
I’m not going to get into that argument.

Let’s just say I’ve been to see a Dom. The session does become somewhat highly charged and it does become overtly sexual and I end up having sex with her. Now this could be coloured any way you like. As a slave I was simply being used for the mistresses pleasure for example.
But it’s still sex.

I leave there knowing that if I write a review. It could be damaging to my chances of ever being invited back if you know what I mean. 😂

Long ago now. But I’ve had one or two (again) very sexual experiences with Doms who used to state in bold type (hypothetically) that no sexual services were offered. A case of YMMV. I guess 😁

But back on topic. It’s already been said. I doubt there would be sufficient interest on this forum to warrant a BDSM. Review category.

[scutty brown]

I'd go along with that. It is a shame as it would be easier to just look for 'pure' BDSM reviews, but as you say a dedicated page probably would not have many reviews in it even after a few years.

Four years ago few of us would have realised how popular the TS section would become. I realise that's partly due to the closure of another dedicated forum, but I do wonder if a new BDSM section would prove to be a similar draw

[Jonestown]

Four years ago few of us would have realised how popular the TS section would become. I realise that's partly due to the closure of another dedicated forum, but I do wonder if a new BDSM section would prove to be a similar draw

If you really wanted to go down that expansionist route you would be better having separate review and discussion boards for each of the four categories (escort, massage, TS, BDSM), ie 8 forums for each of the 12 geographical areas. It quickly turns into a monster. And then the adult babies would start crying because they didn’t have their own board.

[ulstersubbie]

And then the adult babies would start crying because they didn’t have their own board.

 

[ulstersubbie]

 Apart from that I don't think there are enough pure BDSM bookings to warrant it.

This. Apart from myself there are only two or three members who contribute BDSM reviews with any regularity. Hardcore kink is a minority activity/interest, always will be I suspect.

[scutty brown]

This. Apart from myself there are only two or three members who contribute BDSM reviews with any regularity. Hardcore kink is a minority activity/interest, always will be I suspect.

but you're ignoring the point about the TS reviews - until that was opened up, there weren't any

[scutty brown]

If you really wanted to go down that expansionist route you would be better having separate review and discussion boards for each of the four categories (escort, massage, TS, BDSM), ie 8 forums for each of the 12 geographical areas. It quickly turns into a monster. And then the adult babies would start crying because they didn’t have their own board.

I see your logic, but the problem there could possibly be a lack of helper support for the new forums.

[daviemac]

but you're ignoring the point about the TS reviews - until that was opened up, there weren't any

There were just as many TS reviews before the dedicated section only they had 'warning TS review' in the title, something some people still do.

Even though there's a dedicated TS section most areas only have 1 or 2 pages of reviews, nothing compared to escort or massage.

Then there is the issue of what is classed as BDSM session, what would the level of sexual contact be before it became an escort meet?

I can't recall seeing any reviews of out and out BDSM sessions, anybody link to some? 

BTW here's a couple of TS ones from before you joined and there's loads more.

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=36967.msg502419#msg502419
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=70326.msg891125#msg891125

Both of those are still in the escort section because nobody has gone that far back to move them.

[TomTank]

As mentioned, it's not a clear distinction between an escort meet and a BDSM meet, so very difficult to separate them, and know where the line is.
And there is usually a clue in the title of the review, especially if they are Mistress xxxxx or something similar.

A transsexual either is or isn't, so makes more sense to have its own section.

[jamiekinkxxx]

As mentioned, it's not a clear distinction between an escort meet and a BDSM meet, so very difficult to separate them, and know where the line is.
And there is usually a clue in the title of the review, especially if they are Mistress xxxxx or something similar.

A transsexual either is or isn't, so makes more sense to have its own section.

Even mistresses vary on the level of sexual interaction they give. The baseline/traditional/old school view would be:

No sex
No oral
No HJ (they may give you JOI)
No intimate body worship

But over time that has changed, although it is pretty much a given that most will not advertise as providing anything more than probably a HJ even today.

BUT as pointed out by Steve this doesn't mean that they don't offer more should they feel like it. I still think that will be a (very?) small % but it does happen (I can vouch for that just as Steve has).... just NEVER go expecting it!

This is why I think there has 100% been a new category of sex worker over the last 15-20 years. Girls that really know the artform that is BDSM (and believe me it is an artform), can 100% play the dominatrix role for real, but then also throw in sexual fun too.

There are dedicated agencies for just this type of fun. Some girls that I have played with over the years that were in this category of sex workers were sometimes better dominatrix's than some Mistresses that were offering the 'traditional' view of BDSM.

[Stevelondon]

Quote by Jamie [ There are dedicated agencies for just this type of fun. Some girls that I have played with over the years that were in this category of sex workers were sometimes better dominatrix's than some Mistresses that were offering the 'traditional' view of BDSM ] End Quote

I just have to keep agreeing with you my friend. Exactly my experience 👍🏻😂

[jamiekinkxxx]

Quote by Jamie [ There are dedicated agencies for just this type of fun. Some girls that I have played with over the years that were in this category of sex workers were sometimes better dominatrix's than some Mistresses that were offering the 'traditional' view of BDSM ] End Quote

I just have to keep agreeing with you my friend. Exactly my experience 👍🏻😂

We should meet for a beer! 

[timsussex]

.....
Then there is the issue of what is classed as BDSM session, what would the level of sexual contact be before it became an escort meet?

I can't recall seeing any reviews of out and out BDSM sessions, anybody link to some? 
....

The question of when does a BDSM meet become an Escort one is equally applicable to the Massage session - its probably the same borders eg hand relief, Sex

I've posted a few of pure BDSM + a couple more than I'd classify as Escort with BDSM overtones
Pure BDSM
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=370045.0
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=353746.0
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=249211.0

More of a mix
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=346503.0
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=216108.0
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=180584.0

I'd also take issue with the statement that there are other review sites for BDSM - yes there are other sites but none come anywhere near the 'honesty' of reviews on here!
In fact all of the ones I know of are actually less reliable than AW reviews and that is saying something !

[daviemac]

The question of when does a BDSM meet become an Escort one is equally applicable to the Massage session - its probably the same borders eg hand relief, Sex

I've posted a couple of pure BDSM + a couple more than I'd classify as Escort with BDSM overtones

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=370045.0
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=353746.0

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=346503.0

That is one of the issues with massage reviews and one that we have to look at and make a decision on where they go, but massages are far more popular than BDSM, you have quoted 2 BDSM reviews there are 12 pages of massage reviews in the NE section alone.

With 1,517,206 views the NE 'best genuine massage with happy ending' thread is the second most viewed on the site, 3rd is the London massage shop mini reviews one.

With TS there's no ambiguity, it's either a TS booking or it isn't, however the final decision is not mine to make but in my opinion another subsection for something as niche as BDSM when judging by the number of reviews is not needed and will only create more work.

[webpunter]

in my opinion another subsection for something as niche as BDSM when judging by the number of reviews is not needed and will only create more work.

Me thinks that you & the other mods Head1 have more than enuf going on
Not much

IMO there is an easy way to differentiate
No penetration = massage
Penetration = escort
On the basis of the BDSM femdom type sessions i've had i reck more of the former rather than the latter

I'm not sure where having your most important bits connected to the national grid fits in
Suffice to say it was 'electrifying'
Coat ....

[timsussex]

I'm didn't say it would be a huge section just giving you examples that you DM personally actually asked for !

A couple of my reviews have generated no comments - which is a pretty fair indicator of lack of interest - or the quality of review

A couple have generated a few comments/questions and I've had a few questions via PMs.

While I would hesitate to describe members as shy I think there is a problem that giving a decent review of a  BDSM session is difficult without identifying yourself to the Lady. An escort booking is basically Oral (with or without) and then a choice of a few positions; a BDSM session has so many possibilities that listing them might be too identifying

Can anyone suggest a BDSM review site that has one tenth of the honesty on here ?

[GingerNuts]

IMO there is an easy way to differentiate
No penetration = massage
Penetration = escort

So:

- A 15 minute blow 'n' go with an escort = massage and
- A masseuse who allows penetration as a one off = escort?

[daviemac]

I'm didn't say it would be a huge section just giving you examples that you DM personally actually asked for !

A couple of my reviews have generated no comments - which is a pretty fair indicator of lack of interest - or the quality of review

A couple have generated a few comments/questions and I've had a few questions via PMs.

While I would hesitate to describe members as shy I think there is a problem that giving a decent review of a  BDSM session is difficult without identifying yourself to the Lady. An escort booking is basically Oral (with or without) and then a choice of a few positions; a BDSM session has so many possibilities that listing them might be too identifying

Can anyone suggest a BDSM review site that has one tenth of the honesty on here ?

The fact is there isn't that many BDSM reviews that you could link to, certainly not enough to warrant a seperate section.

[timsussex]

The fact is there isn't that many BDSM reviews that you could link to, certainly not enough to warrant a seperate section.

1) You didnt ask how many I could link to you just asked for some examples I gave you 6 - you are welcome!
2) I didnt look to see how many I could find I just linked to 6 of mine
3) I didnt ask for a specific BDSM section in each area
4) I don't have time or the access to do a proper search but I have just done the obvious and put BDSM into the search box.

It came up with 50 posts - thats not many - BUT none of the 6 I gave you as examples came up ?????

[daviemac]

1) You didnt ask how many I could link to you just asked for some examples I gave you 6 - you are welcome!
2) I didnt look to see how many I could find I just linked to 6 of mine
3) I didnt ask for a specific BDSM section in each area
4) I don't have time or the access to do a proper search but I have just done the obvious and put BDSM into the search box.

It came up with 50 posts - thats not many - BUT none of the 6 I gave you as examples came up ?????

FFS take it up with Head1 and see what he says. But I have to say if he asks my opinion I will tell him that it isn't worth the effort to satisfy one member.

[jamiekinkxxx]

FFS take it up with Head1 and see what he says. But I have to say if he asks my opinion I will tell him that it isn't worth the effort to satisfy one member.

As a lover of kink as my name would suggest and also BDSM I would love a decent review site that was objective and honest about such experiences. The sites that are out there are neither of those IMHO and to be frank hardly ever maintained or updated with new reviews.

However as stated previously, I agree with DM in that there isn't the volume of people who do this fun and actually would review (hence why other dedicated sites are limited in reviews) to justify a page(s) here on UKP. As such it is just a case of 'searching' on key words to find the limited few that do exist which is sufficient in my mind. Harder, but hardly that onerous.

[ulstersubbie]

However as stated previously, I agree with DM in that there isn't the volume of people who do this fun and actually would review (hence why other dedicated sites are limited in reviews) to justify a page(s) here on UKP. As such it is just a case of 'searching' on key words to find the limited few that do exist which is sufficient in my mind. Harder, but hardly that onerous.

Twenty of my twenty two reviews are BDSM related, yes I've been in the scene for a number of years. As a sub who prefers the harder side of BDSM (whipping etc), my experiences are not going to appeal to a lot of members on here for obvious reasons. The vast majority of punters are vanilla ones and this site reflects that.

[webpunter]

So:

- A 15 minute blow 'n' go with an escort = massage and
- A masseuse who allows penetration as a one off = escort?

Unless i'm mistaken the subject matter is in relation to domme stuff

As for doing a review on a masseuse allowing penetration as a one off etc, dont be silly
It can be more than a one off, if you play your cards right 

Spilling the beans on here increases the likelihood of FS being removed from the menu
& identifying yourself in the process

[GingerNuts]

Unless i'm mistaken the subject matter is in relation to domme stuff

I doubt "domme stuff" involves anything which would place it in the massage category.

As for doing a review on a masseuse allowing penetration as a one off etc, dont be silly
It can be more than a one off, if you play your cards right 

Spilling the beans on here increases the likelihood of FS being removed from the menu
& identifying yourself in the process

I gave one example. Your example still doesn't turn a masseuse into an escort.

[webpunter]

A couple of my reviews have generated no comments - which is a pretty fair indicator of lack of interest - or the quality of review

Or both

I dunno what you are concerned about
50% of your reviews this year have replies & 50% don't
It took me a while to work out the stats 

Nothing like chucking over loads to the mods eh 
Just to keep em busy

& good luck in dealing with @Head1

[webpunter]

I doubt "domme stuff" involves anything which would place it in the massage category.

What about edging ?
Notched up a gear or three when restrained

I gave one example. Your example still doesn't turn a masseuse into an escort.

Indeed it doesnt
Long may this continue

[daviemac]

I doubt "domme stuff" involves anything which would place it in the massage category.

I gave one example. Your example still doesn't turn a masseuse into an escort.

The basic rule of thumb is if they advertise as an escort and openly advertise sexual services it goes in the escort section. It doesn't matter if the punter only wants a massage or even to sit and chat for half an hour. They are an escort regardless of what service the punters wants.

The difficulty comes when an SP advertising as a masseuse provides FS. Normally if they advertise as massage it goes in the massage section, if they do offer extras it is often better to leave it in the massage section, if it's an out and out brothel under the guise of a massage parlour they would normally go in the escort section.

The massage section is not visible to non members so discretions has to be considered as well.

[binbag]

"there are other specialist review sites for dominatrix reviews".
Could someone steer me in the direction of these other sites. I don't know any. Thanks.

[daviemac]

"there are other specialist review sites for dominatrix reviews".
Could someone steer me in the direction of these other sites. I don't know any. Thanks.

Google is your friend, it's against the rules to post links to other sites, BTW so is asking for PMs.

[jamiekinkxxx]

Google is your friend, it's against the rules to post links to other sites, BTW so is asking for PMs.

... but I would not hold out much hope of any of them being that recent.

google something along the lines of...

mistress reviews london bdsm

Good luck

[daviemac]

... but I would not hold out much hope of any of them being that recent.

google something along the lines of...

mistress reviews london bdsm

Good luck

It's binbag who wants them I'm just pointing out the rules. 

[timsussex]

There are review sites but none are decent or even halfway honest so don't waste too long searching
As I pointed out earlier they are worse than AW reviews

We are very lucky having this site for reviews and the more you look for others you will realise how fortunate we are

[jamiekinkxxx]

It's binbag who wants them I'm just pointing out the rules. 

I was just highlighting your response by google being his friend

[timsussex]

I have an idea (rare but even rarer a good one)

I'm about to post a BDSM review and will include xBDSMx in the title
If everyone did that then we would be able to search for BDSM reviews
Then if a few of us Helpers could add that to older review titles ?

I wanted to use *BDSM* but it seems that search ignores other characters

How about that Head/Mods ?

[webpunter]

I have an idea (rare but even rarer a good one)

I'm about to post a BDSM review and will include xBDSMx in the title
If everyone did that then we would be able to search for BDSM reviews
Then if a few of us Helpers could add that to older review titles ?

I wanted to use *BDSM* but it seems that search ignores other characters

How about that Head/Mods ?

Me thinks you've tested @DMs patience enuf recently

& requestin a response from @Head1 ?
Have you taken leave of your senses ?
If whichever post is deemed to be worthy you might, if you are lucky, get a response
Consider it an honour
Unecessary requests might get a put down, which generally doesnt bode well for the future

As for x or *, really ?
Why not try BDSM or Femdom / femdom & then whatever it is added on
These surface on searches

You are about to post a review
Thats gonna ramp the stats up for 2023
I cant wait
The excitement is building
 

[daviemac]

I have an idea (rare but even rarer a good one)

I'm about to post a BDSM review and will include xBDSMx in the title
If everyone did that then we would be able to search for BDSM reviews
Then if a few of us Helpers could add that to older review titles ?

I wanted to use *BDSM* but it seems that search ignores other characters

How about that Head/Mods ?

I've already told you to take it up with Head1, report your post and put what you want to say in the text box.  The link's over there    →    →    →

I presume you've read this thread and the reply from admin.https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=294403.msg3072882#msg3072882 and had a look at this thread - https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=294713.msg3075240#msg3075240 - in East England dedicated to BDSM that lasted a week and got 15 replies, most by the OP?

You will also have to mention if it's just sub males with dom escorts or should it include sub escorts with dom males? 

[binbag]

I have often searched using Google but haven't found anything' of use. I realise  naming other sites is against the rules which is why I asked to be steered in the right direction. A hint or two towards these other sites, without naming them, would be handy.

[daviemac]

I have often searched using Google but haven't found anything' of use. I realise  naming other sites is against the rules which is why I asked to be steered in the right direction. A hint or two towards these other sites, without naming them, would be handy.

Funny I've just done a quick search and there's 4 on the first page.

Hint - type exactly or all variations of what you are looking for into Google. I'm not going to name them.

[scutty brown]

only four? I gave up counting at eight, though most looked pretty moribund, at least superficially.
It either means I'm right and there's a demand out there not being filled by the current sites. Or there's no demand......

[binbag]

My various searches, no matter how I word them, bring up lots of reviews of fetish porn, lots of fetish dating sites, a couple of out of date forums but no current reviews/ discussions of real time encounters with dominatrices/fetish practitioners.

[daviemac]

My various searches, no matter how I word them, bring up lots of reviews of fetish porn, lots of fetish dating sites, a couple of out of date forums but no current reviews/ discussions of real time encounters with dominatrices/fetish practitioners.

You'll just have to do without then, we can't help you any more.

BTW it's been made very clear it's against the rules to promote any other sites so anyone thinking of doing so risks being banned.

[Jonestown]

My various searches, no matter how I word them, bring up lots of reviews of fetish porn, lots of fetish dating sites, a couple of out of date forums but no current reviews/ discussions of real time encounters with dominatrices/fetish practitioners.

Don’t search in google if safe search is locked on, try searching for bdsm mistress forum on other engines