Sang Ling Swiss Cottage - Lily - BB so please don't read.

[Jayjoseph1995]

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This is a bareback review, if this offends you please dont read, as your replies against BB will seem redundant and stupid, albiet what you think, in my opinion.

So, this reviews is a jumble of many.
I have seen Lily many times, shall we say about 4-5 times. All very similiar, so this is a whole mash up of it.

Now, she isn't a very attractive woman, but she makes up for her service, also, BB doesn't scare me amd more than happy to do it. Not that, I do it ofter however, my preference.
Always honest to if I do it or not.

Lily, about 5'2ish, small boobs, flat ass, a face only a mother would love, but smooth skin and eager to please.
Booked an appointment through their number for 1 hour.

Got there and was ushered down to one of the rooms, think it was Lily's room. The middle one.

There was one time where I got there 5 mins early, and I was asked to wait in the waiting room. 3 mins after I was there, they pushed someone else there as 2 girls was over booked. So that was extremely awkward, I was face to face with this bloke in the same room for about 5mins, I jusy said "hello" he said "hi" and I went on me phone, until the girls then grabbed us each off to their respective rooms. :/
It didn't bother me, just adds to the thrill.

Now Lilly. I asked for a shower with her, which she was more than happy with. Its a large wet room. I wanted to try watersports, which Lily was more than happy with. I pissed on her face and the inserted my dick in to her vag and pissed, which was new and a nice touch, then she pissed on me dick, then we both cleaned each other up in the shower.

After drying, went to the room and started our session.

She started of with a good massage, which carried on for 15mins, then on the turn over, she started blowing me.

Then lifts me legs up, and rims me. She became a Dyson Vacuum cleaner instead of Lily, which was extreamly pleasurable. Sucks my balls, to which they dissappear. Then I wanted sex.

But I was like I want deepthroat, which she said okay, gets me off the massage table and places a towel on the floor, and while I was standing, she stuffs me dick down her throat. Very deep, saliva everywhere and she puts on a shift.

Now I show her this video and say, I want this.

External Link/Members Only

To which she goes "ohh, woaah" and other noises, but she agrees.

Puts some oil on me and stars rubbing and then she jumps on me and it goes very similiar to the video.
Then she puts me bare penis inside and grinds and rides me penis for some time. It was hot and living up to the video, only thing if she looked like the woman in the video.

The we jump off, I bend her over the massage bed and fuck her doggy. I even put it in her arsehole for anal, she just tells me to be gentle, which I was.

Anal and back to pussy and back and forth, after a hot hardcore while, then I cum inside her pussy.
She doesn't run off, holds me. Mind you, very good DFK and toungue from the beginning.

Massages me for a while after and then we go to the shower again and she cleans me well.

One fun thing, she gave a blowjob, while laying on the massage bed at the begining, and she never closed the door, and we had a gentleman come down asking for Linda, who wasn't working that day, I heard him.
He walked past our room and as our door wasn't closed, he saw Lily giving me a blowjob, both me and her naked, at gasp, he goes "oh sorry" and rushed off. Lily, looked at me and giggled.
I have never been in that position, but that excited me for a minute.
Jus goes for show how filthy Lily and San Ling is.

Chat a bit, I get dressed and off I go.

1 hour massage £50
Lily £60 for extra (BB FS) [Mind you she does almost everything for £60, even with a condom]

If I missed anything please do let me know.

Regards
Jay

[Jonestown]

This is clearly not a massage review so I have moved it to London escorts.

[Jayjoseph1995]

This is clearly not a massage review so I have moved it to London escorts.

I do apologise.
It was in a massage parlour, so I assumed that would have been fitting.

I am not too fussed, either way


Thank you JT
Jay

[sparkus]

I think voyeurism is pretty standard, nay encouraged, here. The other bloke obviously wasn't aware of that.

[jj8989]

Regardless of what others say or think, thanks for the review. I would prefer to know who the bb'ers are so I can make a personal choice to avoid than not knowing at all.

 

[toddroman456]

Regardless of what others say or think, thanks for the review. I would prefer to know who the bb'ers are so I can make a personal choice to avoid than not knowing at all.

 

Same as you.

I phoned San ling and asked if lilly was available and they said no one works here call3d lilly !!!!

So how do I avoid her ?
And it's strange they said that.

Why ?

Also they say they don't do extras just straight massage??

What's up with that ?

[gamebred]

As Lily is open to alot of things, do you reckon she'd allow a filmed session?

[Jonestown]

I phoned San ling and asked if lilly was available and they said no one works here call3d lilly !!!!
Also they say they don't do extras just straight massage??

What's up with that ?

Maybe the OP's explicit review has broken the switchboard ?

[charliepie]

Regardless of what others say or think, thanks for the review. I would prefer to know who the bb'ers are so I can make a personal choice to avoid than not knowing at all.

 

I'm pretty sure they all do BB at some point or with regulars so the only way to be sure is to not see anyone.

[toddroman456]

I'm pretty sure they all do BB at some point or with regulars so the only way to be sure is to not see anyone.

That's a good bit of advice.

I will stay clear in totall.

Probably why they are coy on the phone.

I'm not experienced at massage parlours

Might travel up to masha in edware play it safe

Thx

[scutty brown]

Same as you.

I phoned San ling and asked if lilly was available and they said no one works here call3d lilly !!!!

So how do I avoid her ?
And it's strange they said that.

Why ?

Also they say they don't do extras just straight massage??

What's up with that ?

they're hardly going to admit to it over the phone are they? you could be a copper, a reporter, or from the council

[toddroman456]

they're hardly going to admit to it over the phone are they? you could be a copper, a reporter, or from the council

yeah  I  realised a few hours ago I made a school boy error     

[Jonestown]

You have to remember that this isn't one on Scutty's beloved mob run flats above a Chinese take away, its a licensed Chinese medicine practitioner that is subject to periodic review by council officers. Not that this place isn't an open secret that people as far away as Guilford know about.

[scutty brown]

You have to remember that this isn't one on Scutty's beloved mob run flats above a Chinese take away, its a licensed Chinese medicine practitioner that is subject to periodic review by council officers. Not that this place isn't an open secret that people as far away as Guilford know about.

Presumably they'll need a council licence where they're based in London? Makes it even more important for them to be careful what they say.
But thanks to reviews on the specialist forum the whole country knows about it

[sparkus]

You have to remember that this isn't one on Scutty's beloved mob run flats above a Chinese take away, its a licensed Chinese medicine practitioner that is subject to periodic review by council officers. Not that this place isn't an open secret that people as far away as Guilford know about.

It's a shop in inner London adjacent to a well known landmark.

I've not been in years but I've admired its recent reputation as a basement gang bang from afar.

[BobThePunter]

As Lily is open to alot of things, do you reckon she'd allow a filmed session?

I love to film a session as well! I wonder if she will allow?

[Stevelondon]

Cheers for the review JJ.

I very much doubt I would ever have headed over to this part of London for a massage at this place. But now I’ve read the above. I know I won’t. 👍🏻

[Stevelondon]

I love to film a session as well! I wonder if she will allow?

It’ll be a short film judging from your one and only review. 😂


Sorry. Just me havin a laff.

[shawtyy]

The number listed is for Swiss cottage sauna next door, so a little confused, is it owned by sang ling?

[RegionalAndy]

I’d never do BB personally but I do read some of these reviews with a somewhat admiration for the risk taking involved. Not for me but I don’t judge and hope all involved are getting what they want from it. Good detailed review mate

[Rusty7]

Thanks a lot for this review Jayjoseph1995.

As a huge fan of the video link types, and of Ember Snow herself, I'm really tempted to try this experience.

I'm a bit confused though on how you actually planned this, as you can't obviously ask for "Lily" on the phone as you will be denied or mislead.

Which one is exactly the venue you went in, and how the "booking" worked out?

Could I just show up on the right venue, and ask for a massage, then ask specifically for Lily? Would be initially a massage request and then, once down, deal directly with the girl for "extras"?

How is this going to be arranged?


Thanks again,

KR
S

[Iloveoral]

Thanks a lot for this review Jayjoseph1995.

As a huge fan of the video link types, and of Ember Snow herself, I'm really tempted to try this experience.

I'm a bit confused though on how you actually planned this, as you can't obviously ask for "Lily" on the phone as you will be denied or mislead.

Which one is exactly the venue you went in, and how the "booking" worked out?

Could I just show up on the right venue, and ask for a massage, then ask specifically for Lily? Would be initially a massage request and then, once down, deal directly with the girl for "extras"?

How is this going to be arranged?


Thanks again,

KR
S

Is there a reason your getting on 5 years light on the reviews matey?

[Colston36]

I don't fuck so bareback not so much of a worry, but she seems so filthy and imaginative (I assume) thatI keep thinking of making the trip there from where I am in Bristol

[flamingice]

I’d never do BB personally but I do read some of these reviews with a somewhat admiration for the risk taking involved. Not for me but I don’t judge and hope all involved are getting what they want from it. Good detailed review mate

Plus one on this.  Admiration indeed.  I have been contemplating whether to start taking PrEP medication which should reduce the serious (HIV) risk to zero.  Then you just got to hope you don’t get one of the more common ailments, which at least can be relatively easily treated with antibiotics.

Guess the jury is out.  As much as I’d love to BB I don’t think I could handle the “what if” stress. 

[PumpDump]

Plus one on this.  Admiration indeed.  I have been contemplating whether to start taking PrEP medication which should reduce the serious (HIV) risk to zero.  Then you just got to hope you don’t get one of the more common ailments, which at least can be relatively easily treated with antibiotics.

Guess the jury is out.  As much as I’d love to BB I don’t think I could handle the “what if” stress. 

Chances of catching HIV are almost nil.

Here are the stats:

1% of female sex workers in London have HIV (External Link/Members Only.)
Chance of male contracting HIV from infected female is 0.042% (1 in 2380) (External Link/Members Only)
Chance of male contracting HIV from infected female with undetectable viral load is 0% (External Link/Members Only)

[scutty brown]

Chances of catching HIV are almost nil.

Here are the stats:

1% of female sex workers in London have HIV (External Link/Members Only.)..............

That link doesn't work, but I have to say I don't believe that 1% figure. I strongly suspect that if they really reported that, then their sampling method was invalid. There's no way that they can be testing anywhere near a significant sample of the non-British girls who make up the majority of the prostitute population

[Colston36]

That link doesn't work, but I have to say I don't believe that 1% figure. I strongly suspect that if they really reported that, then their sampling method was invalid. There's no way that they can be testing anywhere near a significant sample of the non-British girls who make up the majority of the prostitute population

Reassuring to have someone on here who knows more than the clueless amateurs at the British Medical Journal.

[raj676]

awesome review bro!

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This is a bareback review, if this offends you please dont read, as your replies against BB will seem redundant and stupid, albiet what you think, in my opinion.

So, this reviews is a jumble of many.
I have seen Lily many times, shall we say about 4-5 times. All very similiar, so this is a whole mash up of it.

Now, she isn't a very attractive woman, but she makes up for her service, also, BB doesn't scare me amd more than happy to do it. Not that, I do it ofter however, my preference.
Always honest to if I do it or not.

Lily, about 5'2ish, small boobs, flat ass, a face only a mother would love, but smooth skin and eager to please.
Booked an appointment through their number for 1 hour.

Got there and was ushered down to one of the rooms, think it was Lily's room. The middle one.

There was one time where I got there 5 mins early, and I was asked to wait in the waiting room. 3 mins after I was there, they pushed someone else there as 2 girls was over booked. So that was extremely awkward, I was face to face with this bloke in the same room for about 5mins, I jusy said "hello" he said "hi" and I went on me phone, until the girls then grabbed us each off to their respective rooms. :/
It didn't bother me, just adds to the thrill.

Now Lilly. I asked for a shower with her, which she was more than happy with. Its a large wet room. I wanted to try watersports, which Lily was more than happy with. I pissed on her face and the inserted my dick in to her vag and pissed, which was new and a nice touch, then she pissed on me dick, then we both cleaned each other up in the shower.

After drying, went to the room and started our session.

She started of with a good massage, which carried on for 15mins, then on the turn over, she started blowing me.

Then lifts me legs up, and rims me. She became a Dyson Vacuum cleaner instead of Lily, which was extreamly pleasurable. Sucks my balls, to which they dissappear. Then I wanted sex.

But I was like I want deepthroat, which she said okay, gets me off the massage table and places a towel on the floor, and while I was standing, she stuffs me dick down her throat. Very deep, saliva everywhere and she puts on a shift.

Now I show her this video and say, I want this.

External Link/Members Only

To which she goes "ohh, woaah" and other noises, but she agrees.

Puts some oil on me and stars rubbing and then she jumps on me and it goes very similiar to the video.
Then she puts me bare penis inside and grinds and rides me penis for some time. It was hot and living up to the video, only thing if she looked like the woman in the video.

The we jump off, I bend her over the massage bed and fuck her doggy. I even put it in her arsehole for anal, she just tells me to be gentle, which I was.

Anal and back to pussy and back and forth, after a hot hardcore while, then I cum inside her pussy.
She doesn't run off, holds me. Mind you, very good DFK and toungue from the beginning.

Massages me for a while after and then we go to the shower again and she cleans me well.

One fun thing, she gave a blowjob, while laying on the massage bed at the begining, and she never closed the door, and we had a gentleman come down asking for Linda, who wasn't working that day, I heard him.
He walked past our room and as our door wasn't closed, he saw Lily giving me a blowjob, both me and her naked, at gasp, he goes "oh sorry" and rushed off. Lily, looked at me and giggled.
I have never been in that position, but that excited me for a minute.
Jus goes for show how filthy Lily and San Ling is.

Chat a bit, I get dressed and off I go.

1 hour massage £50
Lily £60 for extra (BB FS) [Mind you she does almost everything for £60, even with a condom]

If I missed anything please do let me know.

Regards
Jay

[PumpDump]

That link doesn't work, but I have to say I don't believe that 1% figure. I strongly suspect that if they really reported that, then their sampling method was invalid. There's no way that they can be testing anywhere near a significant sample of the non-British girls who make up the majority of the prostitute population

The link works perfectly fine. Try again. Maybe site was down when you tried.

[PumpDump]

This is clearly not a massage review so I have moved it to London escorts.

It happened in a licenced massage shop. Shouldn't it therefore be in massage section? You risk getting them shut down by publishing in escort section where it is open for everyone to read including Google crawler.

[scutty brown]

The link works perfectly fine. Try again. Maybe site was down when you tried.

Possibly, but it's working now.
This is the abstract

Academic Department of Public Health, St Mary's Hospital Medical School, London.
Abstract
OBJECTIVE--To measure the prevalence of HIV and to describe established risk factors in female prostitutes. DESIGN--A cross sectional survey. SETTING--A genitourinary medicine clinic, streets, and magistrates' courts in London. SUBJECTS--280 female prostitutes recruited between April 1989 and August 1991. MAIN OUTCOME MEASURES--Infection with HIV-1, reported risk behaviours, and prevalence of sexually transmitted infections. RESULTS--228 of the women had HIV tests, and two (0.9% (95% confidence interval 0% to 2.1%)) were infected with HIV-1. Reported use of condoms was high for commercial clients and low for non-paying partners: 98% (251/255) of women used condoms with all clients and 12% (25/207) with non-paying partners for vaginal intercourse. Twenty two women were current or past injecting drug users. Of the 193 women examined for sexually transmitted infections, 27 had an acute infection (gonorrhoea, chlamydia, trichomonas, or primary genital herpes) at the time of interview. Infection was associated with younger age and increasing numbers of non-paying sexual partners, but not with duration of prostitution, numbers of clients, or reports of condom failures. When age and numbers of non-paying partners were analysed by logistic regression they remained significantly associated with sexually transmitted infections. CONCLUSIONS--A large and diverse sample of prostitutes had a low prevalence of infection with HIV and high levels of use of condoms in commercial sex. There was a significant risk of other sexually transmitted infections associated with prostitutes' non-commercial sexual relationships, in which unprotected sex is common. Interventions to reduce the risk of sexually transmitted infections in prostitutes should address both commercial and non-commercial sexual partnerships.

In other words they tested 228 women for HIV over 28 months at just one clinic. And got two positives.
It was back in 1989-91 so over 30 years ago with results which may not be relevant now anyway. But if you compare that sample size with the current number of working girls in London (3471 registered on Adultwork, 2763 on Vivastreet, plus the unknown number of parlour girls, agency girls and streetwalkers) it becomes a small size of questionable significance. Especially when you consider the time period over which the tests happed: roughly 8 per month, against a background of a constantly changing prostitute population.
Perhaps the only important point to take from this survey comes from these three comments:

Reported use of condoms was high for commercial clients and low for non-paying partners: 98% (251/255) of women used condoms with all clients and 12% (25/207) with non-paying partners for vaginal intercourse.

Of the 193 women examined for sexually transmitted infections, 27 had an acute infection (gonorrhoea, chlamydia, trichomonas, or primary genital herpes)

Infection was associated with younger age and increasing numbers of non-paying sexual partners, but not with duration of prostitution, numbers of clients, or reports of condom failures. When age and numbers of non-paying partners were analysed by logistic regression they remained significantly associated with sexually transmitted infections.

In other words, 13.9% of sex workers tested for STI/STD other than HIV were positive for one or more infections. And this strongly correlated with failure to use condoms with non-paying partners. In other words the pimps and the boyfriends and the traffickers were the disease reservoirs

[pbj46]

1% of female sex workers in London have HIV

Yeah, but what % of notorious BBers who have been BBing multiple clients a day for many years have HIV?

[fredhiggins]

Yeah, but what % of notorious BBers who have been BBing multiple clients a day for many years have HIV?

This is probably the more important stat.

[flamingice]

This is probably the more important stat.

Doubt it’s the important stat.  If a WG know they are positive, you got to assume they are on meds, then they basically cannot pass it on.

The only real problem is if someone has been recently infected and doesn’t know it yet.  Let’s face it, more likely you’d be caught in that scenario doing a civvie, that is likely taking less precautious.  Those doing BB for a professional job are likely taking PrEP which should then mean they are not going to contract it.

And then, if all fails and you happen to be with a WG that BBs, doesn’t take PrEP, and is in the infectious stage, there’s the stat further up in this thread which I’ve seen stated elsewhere that likelihood of a male contracting it from intercourse with a positive female is very low (way below 1%).

All stacked up, it’s probably true that the real risk on any given encounter with a pro is likely very very low.  Wow - I have almost talked myself into it.

[Iloveoral]

It’s never a good idea to fuck a complete stranger bare, regardless of stats or her job, she might be a copper 
Interesting the number of people that are now interested in meeting her     

[daviemac]

This is a booking with escort services so it goes in the escort section regardless of where it took place.

[scutty brown]

Doubt it’s the important stat.  If a WG know they are positive, you got to assume they are on meds, then they basically cannot pass it on.

The only real problem is if someone has been recently infected and doesn’t know it yet.  Let’s face it, more likely you’d be caught in that scenario doing a civvie, that is likely taking less precautious.  Those doing BB for a professional job are likely taking PrEP which should then mean they are not going to contract it.

And then, if all fails and you happen to be with a WG that BBs, doesn’t take PrEP, and is in the infectious stage, there’s the stat further up in this thread which I’ve seen stated elsewhere that likelihood of a male contracting it from intercourse with a positive female is very low (way below 1%).

All stacked up, it’s probably true that the real risk on any given encounter with a pro is likely very very low.  Wow - I have almost talked myself into it.

You naive fool.
You need to assume they are NOT on meds

[PumpDump]

I strongly you guys not to do bareback, stick to your condoms. And the reason is once you experienced it, it is so damn addictive and you will never want to use a condom again.

[drwho]

I strongly you guys not to do bareback, stick to your condoms. And the reason is once you experienced it, it is so damn addictive and you will never want to use a condom again.

Very true!

I went through a swingers party/ fabswingers 121s stage 3-4 years ago and got to the point of going bare far too often, including a few I met on AW as well (no longer active and not reviewed)

I do shl.uk home testing but over that period I still caught Gonorrhea, Chlamydia and another one I wasn't even aware of, Mycoplasma genitalium (caught from dogging which was the most hassle to get rid of)

My Mrs was away a lot at the time so I got away with it, but remember being very stressed when she was around and I was having to avoid her because I was arranging treatment on the quiet.

You enjoy the honeymoon period when you don't catch anything but pay for it later

A bit different for unattached guys but that could lead to developing a far more serious infection

[flamingice]

You naive fool.

I don’t think name calling was called for here, least of all from a forum helper.

[scutty brown]

I don’t think name calling was called for here, least of all from a forum helper.

If you're going to make comments like "If a WG know they are positive, you got to assume they are on meds" then my comment accurately describes you.
You cannot ever assume that a sexual partner is taking appropriate precautions, especially when dealing with HIV/AIDS.
How do you know an infected partner isn't deliberately infecting others through a feeling of revenge?
It's down to you to be involved in your own personal protection, not ever assume that others will do it for you.

[PumpDump]

If you're going to make comments like "If a WG know they are positive, you got to assume they are on meds" then my comment accurately describes you.
You cannot ever assume that a sexual partner is taking appropriate precautions, especially when dealing with HIV/AIDS.
How do you know an infected partner isn't deliberately infecting others through a feeling of revenge?
It's down to you to be involved in your own personal protection, not ever assume that others will do it for you.

By your logic you must also be an idiot for licking pussy in almost ever one of your reviewed meets. You have no idea if they have an STI or not.

[scutty brown]

By your logic you must also be an idiot for licking pussy in almost ever one of your reviewed meets. You have no idea if they have an STI or not.

I don't think there's any correlation between the risks of RO and him assuming that all sex workers infected with HIV are taking retrovirals

[flamingice]

How do you know an infected partner isn't deliberately infecting others through a feeling of revenge?

For real?  If you had a positive diagnosis I would highly doubt you would refuse free treatment, and allow the virus to take hold and end your life in a few years - that’s what happens without intervention.  Some revenge they got to be dishing if they are happy to take their own life just in the hope of passing it on to maybe less than 1% of randos.

[flamingice]

Plus one on this.  Admiration indeed.  I have been contemplating whether to start taking PrEP medication which should reduce the serious (HIV) risk to zero.  Then you just got to hope you don’t get one of the more common ailments, which at least can be relatively easily treated with antibiotics.

Guess the jury is out.  As much as I’d love to BB I don’t think I could handle the “what if” stress. 

And just to clear this up, I totally reject your naive fool comment.  If you actually bothered reading my earlier reply (requoted for ease), I made it very clear I have not indulged in BB and probably never will for said risks.  I was making the point that the actual risk is likely lower than the perceived risk.

Still, give me a break on coming back with “there is an exception to your assumption”, and reference that one crazy girl who is so screwed up she is hell bent on revenge and taking everyone with her (probably unknowingly).  Well such is life.  There are always exceptions to rules, and calculated risks you’ll need to assess for yourself.