Author Topic: Rose-X is this the way it’s going?  (Read 2828 times)

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Just noticed Rose-X External Link/Members Only profile pop up today in Bury. I saw her January of last year. It wasn’t a bad meet, quite good in-fact but certainly not up there with the best I’ve had.

She was £170 an hour back then, she’s now £320 and hour and £180 for half. Don’t get me wrong, my feelings on this are if she can get it she’d be daft not to take it. Is the way it’s going though price wise? More and more seem to be edging up well past the 200 for the hour. To be fair she is on the higher side of that.

I know recently there was a bit of to and thro over a review where the girl cost £300 ph and the question of is any girl worth that was brought up. I just wonder how good can a fuck be? I struggle paying that sort of cash for a fuck no matter who it is with as I just don’t see it gets that much better at those sort of prices. Unfortunately for me though the type of girls I like are the ones mainly setting their prices at that level. The demand must there for these girls though as you rarely see the prices come down.

The question is do I punt less and go for the type I like and bite the bullet or change my type and look for girls in a lower price bracket?

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There’s not a chance I’ll return to punting if rates are over 200 ph. As you say fair play to any wg who can get it but not for me. I’ll stick to the regs I see from SA, even factoring booking a day room it’s far better vfm to me.

Offline Cheshuk

Oaktree I wrote this as a response to an earlier post and deleted it thinking its too long. However I think what I mention explains a lot of what people are noticing, it's due to the international money these girls are having access to, causing a lack of options and prices are rising everywhere.

There's clearly plenty of sp's around, however the new top shelf quality is rarer via aw rn imo. Even London, whilst very good I found is only better than the other regions for international agency girls. Truth even London agencies are very dry this year in terms of new smoking' hot girls.

I was discussing this with a friend outside ukp who exclusively punts the highest end London sp's we're aware of. From our conversations and those with some of the £1k plus per hour international girls in London, who explained that the way punting works in the uk is different to the rest of the world. There it's all arranged by private managers who have client lists and operate via messaging apps. More and more of the top sp's who were available in the both London and the wider uk are moving to this method and seemingly disappearing off the scene, however they're very much still there but now hidden from public view and more expensive when they emerge.

Not saying there’s not escorts sites and agencies around the world, but the hottest girls outside the uk seem to have been operating this way for a while, now its becoming more popular in this country with these managers approaching girls on instagram/through friends etc and being able to offer them their ideal clients, top rates and lifestyle too, therefore the best British girls around the country are being pulled in.

Had a normal girl round from seeking nw this week, she told me every quarter she gets flown out with ten other girls for a week or two, fixed fee and all expenses paid by a guy who just likes there company and doesn't sleep with all the girls. She's not an escort and has the access, so hot escorts with friends in this are way more likely to be pulled in.

This is based on a couple of years observation of the scene and what's changed/where its going, so could be temporary.. but the hottest girls with a professional attitude seem to being approached and offered top end rates in conjuntion with privacy, so are going this route. There’s still small town hot girls/ those with ties to their cities looking to make extra cash that pop up now and again at accepted rates, plus the over 30s who aren't as in demand appearing in local regions.

The point is the scene changed, with a lot the hottest girls moving to London, now seems to be changing further with the hot regular girls being in London on occasion but mainly globe trotting with no public presence and only available privately. Therefore going to London with a big budget to punt is only a solution if you haven't seen the existing girls, but for new girls there only the odd few, but meeting regular stunners anytime is now about having contacts and a fuck load of money.

Bit of a ramble on my opinion of punting stunners in the uk, as someone who doesn't filter by price or region. However the only way i've found to regularly get them atm is a mix of seeking, local stunners when they rarely appear, London agency stunners when they rarely appear and haven't been approached and private contacts.

Which even having private contacts isn't a one time fix as these are international groups sending the girls to the richest men around the world, therefore only a solution if you're willing to fly girls into the country where the prices become astronomical as a regular punting method due to these girls flight and hotel expectations.

So in short the best girls were pulled to London and now around the globe, the time of widely available affordable new stunners is currently gone from the entire country, imo without tons of money and contacts there’s not any single avenue. Imo the only way to get them regularly is to fly them in (not viable) or use multiple of different avenues as I've been doing. Locally as a result of the above new ones are appearing affordably on occasion as we're seeing, and I think that's because of the increasingly global nature of contacts the best girls are getting with ease.

That's my two cents on what's going on behind the scenes, causing the visible lack of talent and price rises we're all seeing, and not down to onlyfans and camming as many of those girls are still escorting outside public view via the channels I mentioned.

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Thanks Ches, it’s certainly a changing scene.

I might go back to seeing more agency girls. Many start out with an agency to feel the water before going indie. I use to see far more stunners when I was using agencies but they were often an unknown quantity. No reviews, no feedback and usually no idea what services they provide.
Sometimes you’d find a gem, good looking and banging service but once they’d sorted themselves in the scene they’d move on to bigger and better opportunities.

I still think AW is a pretty good place to find a decent SP but it is getting harder to find one who is at a half decent price.

Offline GorillaWarfare

Yeah, it's only going to rise. People do pay it and as said girls would be foolish not to take it if the money's on offer - and even then there will be many girls who put their prices that high who won't get anyone willing to pay it. They just won't be getting that sort of money from me, that I know.

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Thanks Ches, it’s certainly a changing scene.

I might go back to seeing more agency girls. Many start out with an agency to feel the water before going indie. I use to see far more stunners when I was using agencies but they were often an unknown quantity. No reviews, no feedback and usually no idea what services they provide.
Sometimes you’d find a gem, good looking and banging service but once they’d sorted themselves in the scene they’d move on to bigger and better opportunities.

I still think AW is a pretty good place to find a decent SP but it is getting harder to find one who is at a half decent price.

No worries, my theory based on observation. Seems in short girls like Rose get exposed to high paid experiences and their expectations change. Leaving punters with your dilemma, with many choosing to pay than go without, so demand remains.

Taylor Lapdancer a recently reviewed nw sp, appeared on the scene. A few weeks in had a £7k escort booking in Dubai, she wasn't the best looking nor had the best attitude so wouldn't last at that level. Had she done wouldn't come back with the same rate expectations. She's just one example of how that network is snapping up the best girls around the country and changing their expectations, many going straight from insta/through friends in to escorting that way, never starting via agencies or independent.

Theres still girls who haven't been sucked in, but not enough for regular variety rn and it seems to be reaching a lot of them. Leading to a lack of availability nationally and higher prices.

One thing that's for sure is the scene has changed and punters who go for 20s stunners need to figure out the best way to adapt and optimise

Many start out with an agency to feel the water before going indie.

That's true, would be good to see more agency reviews. Seems a fair few ukp members have given up on them (myself included) for various reasons
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That's true, would be good to see more agency reviews. Seems a fair few ukp members have given up on them (myself included) for various reasons

Yeah I used to almost only use agencies. Occasionally use them now for outcall if I’m working away.

Offline bdyno

There's no way I'll be paying that sort of money.  £150ph is my absolute max, and if I'm paying that I'm expecting anal included.  More than that and I'd rather have a wank.

My theory about the piss take prices you see so much of these days is the OnlyFans influence.  Why would girls fuck strangers when they can get idiots to send them £100 tips for a few pictures and a couple of dirty texts?

For me that's what's ruined things.  The high class agency thing discussed above may come into it, but that market has always been there and has never had much influence on everyday punting in the past.  The social media generation get their kicks over the phone, so OnlyFans is where the majority of girls who would otherwise be potential escorts can be found.

Offline Cheshuk

There's no way I'll be paying that sort of money.  £150ph is my absolute max, and if I'm paying that I'm expecting anal included.  More than that and I'd rather have a wank.

My theory about the piss take prices you see so much of these days is the OnlyFans influence.  Why would girls fuck strangers when they can get idiots to send them £100 tips for a few pictures and a couple of dirty texts?

For me that's what's ruined things.  The high class agency thing discussed above may come into it, but that market has always been there and has never had much influence on everyday punting in the past.  The social media generation get their kicks over the phone, so OnlyFans is where the majority of girls who would otherwise be potential escorts can be found.

you do get news headlines about only fans high earners but most only fans girls/influencers don't make a liveable wage, a fair proportion of influencers and only fans girls are also privately bookable escorts where they make most of their income. The 'social media generation' are also taking pictures in expensive locations around the world, without a substantial following only fans money is often insufficient.

There are many girls who front the lifestyles saying it's only fans, as the average person believes that and finds it more socially acceptable, but it's not often what's paying for it.

I wasn't talking about high end agencies, i'm talking about the way escorting has changed with the rise of instagram. However you are entitle to believe they're all sat home raking it in on only fans and not spreading their legs, but I sincerely don't
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I know for me, it's looking like it will change punting habits from being a spontaneous treat, to being part of a holiday or trip to somewhere the prices are a lot cheaper.

Personally there's fuck all chance I'm paying £350 (or anywhere above £200) an hour, for a girl with ~30% negatives, who barely kisses, doesn't do anal or filming.

Tbh if you're paying £6+ p/minute for a shag you deserve ripping off, for helping (along with onlyfans simps) to create this daft market.

Offline bdyno

However you are entitle to believe they're all sat home raking it in on only fans and not spreading their legs, but I sincerely don't
I'm not saying they all are.  The few who become rich from it are certainly the exception.
I'm saying it's a big influence on the price hike we've seen recently.
The girls who may consider escorting as a way to make a bit of extra cash can make that same bit of extra cash on OnlyFans with a fraction of the effort and without having to actually meet people.
I'm talking about the ones on there who make enough to subsidise other income to mean they usually don't need to consider escorting and those who do go into it consider themselves to be worth silly money per hour as a result of the idiots who tip them on OnlyFans.

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I'm not saying they all are.  The few who become rich from it are certainly the exception.
I'm saying it's a big influence on the price hike we've seen recently.
The girls who may consider escorting as a way to make a bit of extra cash can make that same bit of extra cash on OnlyFans with a fraction of the effort and without having to actually meet people.
I'm talking about the ones on there who make enough to subsidise other income to mean they usually don't need to consider escorting and those who do go into it consider themselves to be worth silly money per hour as a result of the idiots who tip them on OnlyFans.

I'd think a good few who are subsidising income from a regular profession will in many cases be too privacy conscious for OF. It's become clear to me there are as many girls about as ever, just more hidden.

I agree a lot of price rises are likely from additional income outside mainstream escorting but personally think it's to do with wealthy regular clients/high paid bookings globally that became more common after the rise of instagram leading to international connected agencies behind the scenes.

That's the conclusion I reached, you're not alone in the OF and camming are to blame camp, from my observations and conversations i'm not of that opinion

Offline lewisjones23

My interest in punting is at an all time low.

I used to check AW every single day to see if anyone took my fancy, now its around once a week and everything has got to be perfect for me to ever bother sending a message off.

I wouldn’t be surprised if I don’t punt ever again in all honesty

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My interest in punting is at an all time low.

I used to check AW every single day to see if anyone took my fancy, now its around once a week and everything has got to be perfect for me to ever bother sending a message off.

I wouldn’t be surprised if I don’t punt ever again in all honesty

I probably only punt once every five or six weeks myself and I’m seeing mainly just two or three girls. In-fact it’s almost only down to one. To be honest she’s one of the best I’ve seen in this game anyway so I’m happy limiting my options. I can’t be arsed travelling and trying to find parking plus I’ve had either shit punts or just very ordinary of late.

I’m thinking of trying the agencies again but it really depends on where they have in-calls. If it’s city centres I’m not going to bother.



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I hardly ever bother with AW these days due to the prices most of them are charging, haven't for the last year or so & it used to be a daily thing with me.
I missed it at first but now i'm not really bothered, I go on every now & then in the hope of finding a gem but mainly end up laughing at what some of them are charging, even the big units are 100+ per hh these days.  :sarcastic:
Can't see the price increse stopping or leveling out either.
If the girls can get it good for them but I won't be paying it.

Offline mikhail

With the price increases, the girls (if they're getting the bookings) are probably seeing less guys and making the same amount of money for them.  Which is fair enough if you can do that.

Probably why I've punted once in the last 2years and have been spending my time on Seeking and Secret Benefits.  Funnily enough, my booking prior to the last one with Redlipschloe was with Rose X 2 years ago when she was just starting out.  I never found time to do a review of her but it was a good experience and I probably would have seen her again at her old price of about £160.  The price she is charging now for the NW is insane and defintely not worth that.  She's probably been working down south and the shandy drinkers have made her think she is actually worth that. 

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Now charging £350 in Leeds!!!  Doesn't she know Yorkies are tight?

Offline Clitheroelad

AW prices have gone silly and there are few parlours that grab me, hence Im punting less and less.

Offline smit1234

She has an onlyfans so punting is prob a side hustle for her and if she gets the odd booking at £350 an hour, that'll prob do her

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She has an onlyfans so punting is prob a side hustle for her and if she gets the odd booking at £350 an hour, that'll prob do her

That might be true but she seems to tour a lot. She pops up all over the place.

I think the hard truth is that these girls are finding punters to pay that sort of cash especially if they’re willing to travel and tour.

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I've mentioned this before but if you look on the SAAFE forum there is a thread called "Slow at the minute or just me?". It's 944 pages long, currently.

A lot of WGs on there complaining about the lack of customers. Some have tried various tactics to stimulate demand but are still earning way less money than in the past. I think one of the main reasons for the decline in punting options is that a lot of blokes now use Tinder (& similar apps) and therefore get the "no strings" sex they want through that. Also, there's the accepted concept of "fuck buddies" and open relationships, etc. So the demand has lessened and therefore fewer WGs are available as they've given up due to not earning much.

The top class pussy now going abroad via internet advertising makes sense as there are very few real lookers available in UK parlours or on adultwork these days. Also, the stunners can clear up on Only Fans as well. When I think back to my early days of punting over 20 years ago, there were a lot more real hotties available then, e.g. The Gallery parlour in Cadishead had some real crackers in there. But I think the scarcity of 2nd and 3rd level WGs can be attributed, as I've said, to Tinder, etc, and a loosening of social norms. Who ever would have thought Infinity parlour in Manchester would totally ditch its nightime opening hours?

I would imagine a lot of girls are wary of Only Fans as anyone can get access to those pics and more likely for friends and family to see them, etc.

Overall a complex situation but for me personally, the demise of Sandys, WFB and Hayleys were the start of a huge drop off in the enjoyment I used to get from punting.

Offline EUGENE TACKLEBERRY

350 today oaktree in leeds

Best of luck to her, she was 170 ehen i saw her and was often flitting between 170 80 90 200 210

I cam make a regular of that scenario

Also i saw her after my redcard so business wise she was lucky, seampt either disorganised or no real work ethic to honour or keep track of bookings.

At 350ph i hope shes improved, or is less busy to be on top of administration so to speak


Offline Doctormike

Interesting post

I’ve returned to the game after 7 years
My AW account still active
It certainly has changed
There are more negative reviews than what there used to be which is likely from standard dropping .

The girls on AW aren’t as flattering as what they also were with higher rates

I think finding 2/3 regulars is fine for those wanting a regular solid punt rather than the ones who want to dry something different every time

I very rarely punted the same girl twice
But looking at the scene this may change where I see 1-2 only but regularly