When did the car horn become a rebuke rather than a warning?

[FLYING BLUE]

When I was learning to drive, it was drilled into us that the car horn was only to be used as a warning to other motorists / pedestrians.
Since those days, I became an advanced driver & trained in military 'tactical driving' whilst in the RAF whilst training as a pilot.

An incident this morning has really shaken me & prompted me to write this topic.

As I was approaching a junction this morning in very light traffic, a van starts to reverse round the corner, into the road where I'm still approaching the junction, by now only doing around 15mph - I guessed he hadn't seen me so I did a very light 'toot' on the horn, just once & stopped my car.

The van also stopped, around 2' in front of me & the driver shouted something (which I expected to be "sorry mate, didn't see you") but no, drivers door opens & out stepped a walking, talking, gorilla yelling obscenities at me, asking me why the FK I was "blowing my FKing horn at him, who the FK did I think I am" etc etc

After me telling him that I was simply using the horn as a warning & not a rebuke - "I didn't think you had seen me" - his rage only worsened - aparently, if I didn't FK off right now Grandad, he would insert said horn in a place where the sun never shines (Aberdeen maybe?) - meanwhile all this is captured on dashcam - which I foolishly pointed out to the primate.....

It appears my dashcam would also be inserted into Aberdeen if I didn't "get to FK right now you white haired old FKer)

The gorilla was in his late 20's at a guess - I am startled & amazed that a simple 'toot' on the horn should lead to such behaviour - sometimes I despair what we have become.
FB

[ik8133]

aparently, if I didn't FK off right now Grandad, he would insert said horn in a place where the sun never shines (Aberdeen maybe?) - meanwhile all this is captured on dashcam - which I foolishly pointed out to the primate.....

It appears my dashcam would also be inserted into Aberdeen if I didn't "get to FK right now you white haired old FKer)

The gorilla was in his late 20's at a guess - I am startled & amazed that a simple 'toot' on the horn should lead to such behaviour - sometimes I despair what we have become.
FB

Well, I take umbridge at your comments, the sun does shine in Aberdeen, admittedly not all the time, but it does shine! 

[scutty brown]

Gorillas have always been gorillas. Nothing to do with driving, just with him being a twat

If the dashcam recorded it, report it to the police. I think behaviour like that can get a £1000 fine

[cunnyhunt]

I had something similar at the beginning of the year. I patiently waited while a van did a 28 point turn after pulling out of a junction in front of me, after the van had turned he stopped in front of me and got out and stood by the drivers door asking what I was grinning at. I said I was laughing at the radio but his driving was just as funny. He stood shouting so I started to open the door at which he moved backwards, I said just get on your way as my patience was running out. His ranting carried on for what seemed like ages so I started the shitty pick up the GF uses for her horses and started to move, he stood in the way so I moved off and bent his drivers door back. I didn’t speed off but didn’t see him try and catch up.
Told the GF when I got back, she rang the police to report it but no action was taken.

The police visited a few weeks later about farm thefts in the area and she mentioned the van, the policeman looked it up and said that no action would have been taken as the van driver getting out of his vehicle after there was no contact would have been seen as aggression.

[RandomGuy99]

I had a man do that to me once. I'd locked the car doors and had it all on camera. He tried to open my car door and drag me out.  He seemed a little annoyed that I wasn't getting out of the car. He punched my car very hard. He seemed to have hurt himself (probably why people don't go around punching steel things). No damage done to my car.

[Squire Haggard]

meanwhile all this is captured on dashcam

Post it on YouTube. If the analists reg no is shown, put it in the title so that it comes up in a search.

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[FLYING BLUE]

Well, I take umbridge at your comments, the sun does shine in Aberdeen, admittedly not all the time, but it does shine! 

Take as much umbridge as you like - it's free of charge

[Squire Haggard]

Take as much umbridge as you like - it's free of charge

I'll not take umbridge, even if its free. 

Ullapool or Mallaig on the west coast are two of the wettest places in the UK, according to the UK rainfall map.

Seriously, if you want any assistance about how to upload onto YouTube, creating your own channel, making thumbnails for the video showing the wankers reg no etc, I'm willing to help.

[RedKettle]

When I was learning to drive, it was drilled into us that the car horn was only to be used as a warning to other motorists / pedestrians.
Since those days, I became an advanced driver & trained in military 'tactical driving' whilst in the RAF whilst training as a pilot.

An incident this morning has really shaken me & prompted me to write this topic.

As I was approaching a junction this morning in very light traffic, a van starts to reverse round the corner, into the road where I'm still approaching the junction, by now only doing around 15mph - I guessed he hadn't seen me so I did a very light 'toot' on the horn, just once & stopped my car.

The van also stopped, around 2' in front of me & the driver shouted something (which I expected to be "sorry mate, didn't see you") but no, drivers door opens & out stepped a walking, talking, gorilla yelling obscenities at me, asking me why the FK I was "blowing my FKing horn at him, who the FK did I think I am" etc etc

After me telling him that I was simply using the horn as a warning & not a rebuke - "I didn't think you had seen me" - his rage only worsened - aparently, if I didn't FK off right now Grandad, he would insert said horn in a place where the sun never shines (Aberdeen maybe?) - meanwhile all this is captured on dashcam - which I foolishly pointed out to the primate.....

It appears my dashcam would also be inserted into Aberdeen if I didn't "get to FK right now you white haired old FKer)

The gorilla was in his late 20's at a guess - I am startled & amazed that a simple 'toot' on the horn should lead to such behaviour - sometimes I despair what we have become.
FB

Sorry you experienced that - utterly contemptible behaviour.  He was so in the wrong - reversing into a road, reacting like that to a completely correct use of the horn and such aggressive behaviour.  In addition the cowardly behaviour of picking on someone so much older than himself.  No excuse for the behaviour.

Hope you are OK. 

[FLYING BLUE]

Seriously, if you want any assistance about how to upload onto YouTube, creating your own channel, making thumbnails for the video showing the wankers reg no etc, I'm willing to help.

Very nice of you to offer but, I'm just gonna put it down to experience, albiet not a pleasant one - I'm crap at computers

[FLYING BLUE]

Sorry you experienced that - utterly contemptible behaviour.  He was so in the wrong - reversing into a road, reacting like that to a completely correct use of the horn and such aggressive behaviour.  In addition the cowardly behaviour of picking on someone so much older than himself.  No excuse for the behaviour.

Hope you are OK. 

Nothing dented other than a bit of pride 

[mr.bluesky]

When I was learning to drive, it was drilled into us that the car horn was only to be used as a warning to other motorists / pedestrians.
Since those days, I became an advanced driver & trained in military 'tactical driving' whilst in the RAF whilst training as a pilot.

An incident this morning has really shaken me & prompted me to write this topic.

As I was approaching a junction this morning in very light traffic, a van starts to reverse round the corner, into the road where I'm still approaching the junction, by now only doing around 15mph - I guessed he hadn't seen me so I did a very light 'toot' on the horn, just once & stopped my car.

The van also stopped, around 2' in front of me & the driver shouted something (which I expected to be "sorry mate, didn't see you") but no, drivers door opens & out stepped a walking, talking, gorilla yelling obscenities at me, asking me why the FK I was "blowing my FKing horn at him, who the FK did I think I am" etc etc

After me telling him that I was simply using the horn as a warning & not a rebuke - "I didn't think you had seen me" - his rage only worsened - aparently, if I didn't FK off right now Grandad, he would insert said horn in a place where the sun never shines (Aberdeen maybe?) - meanwhile all this is captured on dashcam - which I foolishly pointed out to the primate.....

It appears my dashcam would also be inserted into Aberdeen if I didn't "get to FK right now you white haired old FKer)

The gorilla was in his late 20's at a guess - I am startled & amazed that a simple 'toot' on the horn should lead to such behaviour - sometimes I despair what we have become.
FB

I think it's a sign of the times, more "shit for brains" neanderthals on the roads nowadays and boy racers in their souped up vw golf's, many of whom have probably never passed a driving test or are insured. I think the standard of driving today is getting worse. Common courtesy is a thing of the pass, everybody seems to be in too much of a hurry.

[RandomGuy99]

I think it's a sign of the times, more "shit for brains" neanderthals on the roads nowadays and boy racers in their souped up vw golf's, many of whom have probably never passed a driving test or are insured. I think the standard of driving today is getting worse. Common courtesy is a thing of the pass, everybody seems to be in too much of a hurry.

I beeped one the other day because he was driving up one way street. My reward was a load of abuse and him showing me the finger. The road he was driving up had ONE WAY painted clearly on the road.

[fredhiggins]

All sensible advice on here. Yup, too many neanderthals around. I despair at all the parking across crossing zig-zags on weekend mornings by the brain-dead gangster types that frequent my local cafes' outsides spaces.

[DastardlyDick]

If the dashcam recorded it, report it to the police. I think behaviour like that can get a £1000 fine

PUBlic Order Act - causing harassment, Alarm or Distress?

[scutty brown]

PUBlic Order Act - causing harassment, Alarm or Distress?

It'll be one of the summary offences for bad driving.

[standardpostage]

I may be wrong, but, I was told that, two quick, short toots together, are seen as more polite, and less confrontational, than one toot 

To warn people that you are there !

In Italy they toot all the time, and much more often. I think they toot there when overtaking, so the car in front does not move into your path ?

[DastardlyDick]

I think it's a sign of the times, more "shit for brains" neanderthals on the roads nowadays and boy racers in their souped up vw golf's, many of whom have probably never passed a driving test or are insured. I think the standard of driving today is getting worse. Common courtesy is a thing of the pass, everybody seems to be in too much of a hurry.

I think entitlement also comes into play - they're entitled to do whatever they want and FK everyone else.
Our driving test has been dumbed down to such a level that any idiot can pass, all in the interest of having a "mobile workforce". The Official name for a car horn is "warning instrument".
Without (hopefully) getting political, we used to have folks from Germany come over to take their test because ours is easier and cheaper to get than theirs, they then exchanged their UK Licence for a German one once they got home.

[myothernameis]

As a cyclist there times, when this happens to me, and the motorist dosnt make any head way on the road.  Motorist hoots his horn, then close passes me, and we both at the traffic lights at the same time.  Position wise Im now in the ASL box, and once more there the hoot of the horn, telling me get out of the way

Unknown to the motorist, I had a camera on my handle bar, and caught him close passing me, and we could also hear them tooting the horn.  Footage sent to the police, and under my instructions they were sent on a drivers awareness course

[standardpostage]

As a cyclist there times, when this happens to me, and the motorist dosnt make any head way on the road.  Motorist hoots his horn, then close passes me, and we both at the traffic lights at the same time.  Position wise Im now in the ASL box, and once more there the hoot of the horn, telling me get out of the way

Unknown to the motorist, I had a camera on my handle bar, and caught him close passing me, and we could also hear them tooting the horn.  Footage sent to the police, and under my instructions they were sent on a drivers awareness course

I had to google ASL 
Think I better read the Highway Code again !