Cambridge – English Rose – Outcall – 3 timewasting profiles and disappointment

[SideFun81]

Date: Early July 2023

Link: External Link/Members Only

Comms: AW email to begin, WhatsApp and finally phone calls – MANY of them 

Fee: £320 two-hour outcall was originally booked (bumped up to four)

Location: Should have been at various hotels in central Cambridge

History: Writing this review to pull together the many scattered bits of information from across this site, as I saw a new profile appear at the end of June on AW for English Rose which had a familiar feel. I am a regular visitor to Cambridge the past few years and although I wasn’t certain during our initial email exchange, when she sent me her mobile number, it was the same as her previous AW Profile. Therefore, I can confirm English Rose was also Seduction by Emily External Link/Members Only and prior to that was Sweet Katie External Link/Members Only based in Ely.

Girl: When I finally got to meet her in person, I would have to say I was very disappointed. She carries quite a bit of weight and it’s all sagging around her waist and flabby butt. Around a size 12 (not 8-10 as stated) bottom, but with almost no tits, I would describe her as a very unappealing pyramid shape!  Bleach, bottle blonde hair that felt like oily straw, terrible spaced, jagged teeth and an average face, caked in way too much make up which failed to cover the abundance of acne scarring. Only the last profile photo (added yesterday) is possibly her, but she’s gone up a good size since it was taken. Also her age is completely false, probably more like 30.

Services: OWO attempted and no further.

Meeting: More like, lack of and I should have taken the hint and given up earlier. I originally contacted Sweet Katie late October 2022. Multiple emails, and then agreed a date and time resulting in a no show – almost two hours later I get a phone call with her saying she was on her way, I told her not to bother as I’d already moved to my plan B. We kept in touch trying to arrange a future date, but things never aligned.

Her profile was removed and then in March 2023 another new member caught my eye. After initially contacting Seductive Emily by AW email, she replied recognising me and informed me that after a break she was back and ready for action. We arranged a meet for mid-March, at the time in question as I sat in my hotel a WhatsApp was delivered, she was feeling ill. Could she do the morning. Come morning, she had to go into work last minute. Rescheduled again, three weeks later and yet another excuse was used, a sick dog, which you can see she also used on a previous review no show. https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=348328.0

I decided that this was the end of dealing with this timewaster, until another new profile appeared during my search of AW at the beginning of July. It seemed family and after initial email when English Rose supplied her number, it matched the one I had saved as Emily so I wrote and said I was not interested, as I didn’t believe she was genuine. She offered me four hours for the price of two as an apology and two days later, as I sat once again in my hotel waiting to be stood up, there was finally a knock at my door. I was honestly shocked, even more so upon opening the door as I was presented with a physically underwhelming and substantially older female. For reference, Emily was listed as 28 and her current profile claims she’s 19 – in reality she is around 30 and looks it. Thinking with my little head and the very low price offered, I quickly sorted the paperwork, and she made awkward small talk before moving onto to light kissing and undressing which was even more anti-climatic as without the push-up bra her proportions were so off putting. Despite all efforts (she was enthusiastic) the very toothy OWO  and her physical appearance did absolutely nothing for me, I called time after 15 minutes and let her walk with half the agreed fee.

Conclusion: Just DO NOT bother, if she doesn’t waste your time with excuses and rescheduling, you will only end up with the misfortune of actually meeting her in person and then having to make your own excuses to end the encounter! 

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[PilotMan]

History: Writing this review to pull together the many scattered bits of information from across this site, as I saw a new profile appear at the end of June on AW for English Rose which had a familiar feel. I am a regular visitor to Cambridge the past few years and although I wasn’t certain during our initial email exchange, when she sent me her mobile number, it was the same as her previous AW Profile. Therefore, I can confirm English Rose was also Seduction by Emily External Link/Members Only and prior to that was Sweet Katie External Link/Members Only based in Ely.

I've indexed both previous profiles against this new profile.

[peiyee]

Oh….. was going to try…. Bullet dodged!

[Jamespaul23]

I think you have made some kind of miss- judgement in thinking that “English Rose” had previous profiles, particularly under the profile names you state, as I hate to break it to you but I’ve actually met “Seduction by Emily” and she is not the same girl as “English Rose”. I know this as I have met both of these girls on separate occasions. I don’t really know why you have gone to the lengths of making such a lengthy, false review.

Like I said prior I have actually met Rose also and this was recent. She is not what your portraying her to be, far from it actually and makes me think there is more to this..

Also what does not make sense to me is, if In arranging to meet you knew she was a previous girl who you had seen and didn’t like; why didn’t you simply avoid seeing her? I don’t understand the whole 4 hours for 2 business, both girls have / had abundant positive feedback, why would either offer you a discounted rate? That does not make sense to me..

When I was arranging to meet Rose, she was very quick with comms, at times it was difficult to talk but she always made the effort to get back to me when she could. The meeting itself was perhaps one of the best meetings I think I’ve had on AW. It’s refreshing meet a person with an outlook to life as Rose, jaw dropping figure (she has a flat stomach no belly as detailed by OP), very pretty face with soft features and her hair isn’t bleach blonde.. also a bonus that she is English. She has the most beautiful soft skin and generally takes really good care of herself.

I had taken some photos for Rose, I needed to see some ID as we were taking some xxx shots and saw her ID, that truly states she is in fact 19. She dose look her age, makes me think you have further got the wrong person.

The irony that I actually joined here to leave Rose a positive review and before I had saw this one. I will be posting my own review shortly, I just had to clear this up as your basically slandering a really nice girl and I don’t think that’s right at all.

Also I hope you have copyright permissions to post that image. Rose is actually studying Law I do believe, she’s a highly intelligent young woman and I would be concerned of what you have actually got right factually about her.

[daviemac]

I think you have made some kind of miss- judgement

I think you have made a massive misjudgement of what this site is all about, white knight post like this are frowned upon.

If you don't believe the review ignore it, you weren't there at the time, the OP was and he has relayed the details as he found them.

I would suggest you read the welcome message we have for new members and also the Punting wiki, taking particular note of the advice to take your time to look around the site to see how it works, what is acceptable and what is not.

Welcome to UKP!
Here are a few helpful tips to make your stay here more comfortable
Please take a few minutes to have a look around the site to get a feel of how it works and to read the site rules

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=252680.0

We are a sharing community, and the forum needs reviews to thrive.
Try and make your first post a review.
To post a review, choose either the escorting or massage section, select the area, e.g. London, and click on the 'New Review' button in the top right corner.

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Don't jump in and ask for information without using the search bar at the top of the page; the most common questions have already been asked; failing that, you can make a post in the discussion section, and another member will be able to help.

Admin and the mods are here to keep order; you can also report a particular post to them if you think any site rules have been broken. ............

Happy punting!!!

[daviemac]

OP where did the photo come from, there isn't any on her AW profile.

[Jamespaul23]

I appreciate what your saying and I’m not meaning to come across like a “white knight”, it’s just this isn’t right at all and I question the legitimacy of this review.

[PilotMan]

The irony that I actually joined here to leave Rose a positive review and before I had saw this one. I will be posting my own review shortly, I just had to clear this up as your basically slandering a really nice girl and I don’t think that’s right at all.

Also I hope you have copyright permissions to post that image. Rose is actually studying Law I do believe, she’s a highly intelligent young woman and I would be concerned of what you have actually got right factually about her.

I look forward to reading your review.

As it's going to be your first, there's a helpful guide to writing reviews.

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[PilotMan]

OP where did the photo come from, there isn't any on her AW profile.

There were originally photo's on her AW - she has taken them down, subsequent to this review.

[daviemac]

I appreciate what your saying and I’m not meaning to come across like a “white knight”, it’s just this isn’t right at all and I question the legitimacy of this review.

You are accusing the OP of slander (though I think you actually mean libel), you are also claiming the OP has 'gone to great lengths' to post a fake review without any evidence so in fact it could be said you are libeling the OP.

Like I said take your time to get used to the site and how it works and you'll get on fine, keep going with unfounded accusations and you won't.

[daviemac]

There were originally photo's on her AW - she has taken them down, subsequent to this review.

[Jamespaul23]

There were originally photo's on her AW - she has taken them down, subsequent to this review.

The photo that was posted here was not a photo she had on her profile

[Jamespaul23]

You are accusing the OP of slander (though I think you actually mean libel), you are also claiming the OP has 'gone to great lengths' to post a fake review without any evidence so in fact it could be said you are libeling the OP.

Like I said take your time to get used to the site and how it works and you'll get on fine, keep going with unfounded accusations and you won't.

Couldn’t it be considered as slander if the details of the review are not true? I am new to UK punting and I will take some time to read the links you posted. I apologise if I have caused any offence, I don’t mean to come across strong, however it’s just a shame too see and I had to be honest in my comment. I thought we review escorts fairly here and point out the ones to watch out for. This I assure you is not one of them. I have just joined and I’m not looking to create any “bad blood” between anyone, I was just simply being honest.

Also Rose did not take her pictures down because of this review I think she’s updating it.. she posted something on her profile about it earlier.

[daviemac]

The photo that was posted here was not a photo she had on her profile

Let me think, who to believe? a member who's been here 6 years and posted 127 reviews or someone who's just joined and is accusing other members of posting fake reviews.

Couldn’t it be considered as slander if the details of the review are not true? I am new to UK punting and I will take some time to read the links you posted. I apologise if I have caused any offence, I don’t mean to come across strong, however it’s just a shame too see and I had to be honest in my comment. I thought we review escorts fairly here and point out the ones to watch out for. This I assure you is not one of them. I have just joined and I’m not looking to create any “bad blood” between anyone, I was just simply being honest.

Also Rose did not take her pictures down because of this review I think she’s updating it.. she posted something on her profile about it earlier.

No it can't possibly be slander because slander is the spoken word.

Please provide irrefutable evidence that this review is fake. We take posting fake reviews very seriously and investigate such accusation thoroughly so I can PM you with an email address you can pass on to Rose and she can contact me and give details of how this is fake.

Nobody said she took her photos down because of this review he said she took them down subsequent to this review.

[Jamespaul23]

If you have an email address I can pass on, Rose dose have some evidence.. that would be much appreciated- thank you 

[SideFun81]

The photo that was posted here was not a photo she had on her profile

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[PilotMan]

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Assuming SideFun81 hasn't doctored the picture or got it from another AW profile?? (please confirm)

It would appear that Jamespaul23 is mistaken.

[SideFun81]

Assuming SideFun81 hasn't doctored the picture or got it from another AW profile?? (please confirm)

It would appear that Jamespaul23 is mistaken.

Taken from a screenshot, saved around the time of the actual meeting, in my secret punting folder 

[Jamespaul23]

Assuming SideFun81 hasn't doctored the picture or got it from another AW profile?? (please confirm)

It would appear that Jamespaul23 is mistaken.

That’s exactly what I’m saying. This photo was never displayed on “English Rose”.

[Jamespaul23]

Taken from a screenshot, saved around the time of the actual meeting, in my secret punting folder 

You do not have the publishing or copyrights to post that photo. It has not been shown on English Rose’s profile and like you have implied you have saved, stored and shared her picture without permission.

I spoke to Rose and she’s prepared to take this as a legal matter of your libellous statement, she is not prepared for her reputation to suffer as of your false claims. This is defamation of character and she will be taking this further.

[AffAlchemist]

I spoke to Rose and she’s prepared to take this as a legal matter of your libellous statement, she is not prepared for her reputation to suffer as of your false claims. This is defamation of character and she will be taking this further.

good luck with that! I can see it in court now " Escort sues punter because she doesn't like a review about her "
Also my feeling is that (allegedly)  Jamespaul23 is English Rose
But hey don't sue me over that I could be wrong 

[Jamespaul23]

good luck with that! I can see it in court now " Escort sues punter because she doesn't like a review about her "
Also my feeling is that (allegedly)  Jamespaul23 is English Rose
But hey don't sue me over that I could be wrong 

Don’t shoot the messenger.. I’m not taking anyone to court 

I spoke to Rose yesterday, sorry to say I’m not Rose, she doesn’t actually care about the review, as there’s no actual truth to it. It’s the copyright to the picture i think she has an issue with..

[scutty brown]

You do not have the publishing or copyrights to post that photo. It has not been shown on English Rose’s profile and like you have implied you have saved, stored and shared her picture without permission.

I spoke to Rose and she’s prepared to take this as a legal matter of your libellous statement, she is not prepared for her reputation to suffer as of your false claims. This is defamation of character and she will be taking this further.

So if it didn't come from the profile, where did it come from?

[AffAlchemist]

Don’t shoot the messenger.. I’m not taking anyone to court 

then stop white knighting

even if you post a review of your meet with her now no one is going to believe it after your involvement in this post

[Jamespaul23]

So if it didn't come from the profile, where did it come from?

Ask OP I have no idea how he came to have the photo. All I know is that photo was not on English Roses profile like he claims it was

[Jamespaul23]

then stop white knighting

even if you post a review of your meet with her now no one is going to believe it after your involvement in this post

I’m not meaning to come across like I am.. obviously it looks that way to you and perhaps other people I appreciate that.. I was just being honest and I like the girl a lot so to see her portrayed in this way was unbelievably shocking to me. I think I’ve connected her now with the right people to get it sorted, so I won’t be popping up anymore  well unless to do some reviews, i have got several to do just finding the time is difficult.

[scutty brown]

Ask OP I have no idea how he came to have the photo. All I know is that photo was not on English Roses profile like he claims it was

In which case why does the photo have an Adultwork watermark?
Either it came from AW, or he's faked it.
And as you seem to accept the photo is of her, where else was it published?

On a different tangent, the AW feedback actually shows four no-shows out of sixteen
Something is clearly not right

[AffAlchemist]

i have got several to do just finding the time is difficult.

but you've found 3 days to white knight on this thread???? 

[Jamespaul23]

Before today, the last time I posted was a couple of days ago.

[Jamespaul23]

In which case why does the photo have an Adultwork watermark?
Either it came from AW, or he's faked it.
And as you seem to accept the photo is of her, where else was it published?

On a different tangent, the AW feedback actually shows four no-shows out of sixteen
Something is clearly not right

I honestly don’t know  to be honest it dose look like that is Rose, I’m not sure on how the OP got the original photo.

Rose has 10 feedback on AW. She has received negative feedback from those who she’s refused to see, no negative feedback from anyone she has seen and has recent positive feedback.

Im on my lunch break   

[Jamespaul23]

I honestly don’t know  to be honest it does** look like that is Rose, I’m not sure on how the OP got the original photo.

Rose has 10 feedback on AW. She has received negative feedback from those who she’s refused to see, no negative feedback from anyone she has seen and has recent positive feedback.

Im on my lunch break   

[cunnyhunt]

I honestly don’t know  to be honest it dose look like that is Rose, I’m not sure on how the OP got the original photo.

Rose has 10 feedback on AW. She has received negative feedback from those who she’s refused to see, no negative feedback from anyone she has seen and has recent positive feedback.

Im on my lunch break   

She must have accepted the booking for them to leave negative.

[cunnyhunt]

You do not have the publishing or copyrights to post that photo. It has not been shown on English Rose’s profile and like you have implied you have saved, stored and shared her picture without permission.

I spoke to Rose and she’s prepared to take this as a legal matter of your libellous statement, she is not prepared for her reputation to suffer as of your false claims. This is defamation of character and she will be taking this further.

1. Do you actually understand copyright?
2. If the image did not appear on English Rose profile why is she ‘taking legal action’

You need to understand that some SP’s are habitual liars

[scutty brown]

She must have accepted the booking for them to leave negative.

most of them were neutral as it looks like she's one who doesn't accept the bookings until they're complete

[Jamespaul23]

She must have accepted the booking for them to leave negative.

She states on her profile if you are rude to her during any time she holds the right to cancel the meeting. She has 1 negative feedback and the rest are positive or “feedback
only”. A escort listed on AW can be left “feedback only” even when a booking is not accepted by the escort.

[Jamespaul23]

1. Do you actually understand copyright?
2. If the image did not appear on English Rose profile why is she ‘taking legal action’

You need to understand that some SP’s are habitual liars

She sent me this earlier

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[scutty brown]

She states on her profile if you are rude to her during any time she holds the right to cancel the meeting. She has 1 negative feedback and the rest are positive or “feedback
only”. A escort listed on AW can be left “feedback only” even when a booking is not accepted by the escort.

All those "feedback only" comments seem to relate to no-shows

[adenmc4]

I think she had a previous profile that I saw her from https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=372965.0
I certainly remember that photo, I assume from the previous profile.

[Jamespaul23]

All those "feedback only" comments seem to relate to no-shows

They are not no shows

[Jamespaul23]

I think she had a previous profile that I saw her from https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=372965.0
I certainly remember that photo, I assume from the previous profile.

Would you agree with the OP that she’s size 12, can you verify that is what this girl looked like when you met her?

[adenmc4]

I am useless at sizes but I would say size 10 not 12. I don't think any of the photos on Rose's or the previous profile are representative but could have been her at some point.

[Jamespaul23]

I am useless at sizes but I would say size 10 not 12. I don't think any of the photos on Rose's or the previous profile are representative but could have been her at some point.

Thank you.

[AffAlchemist]

She sent me this earlier

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I smell BS
This is obviously Rose lol 
She's now sending you stuff from her AW even though, as you have said, she doesn't care about this thread

[Jamespaul23]

I smell BS
This is obviously Rose lol 
She's now sending you stuff from her AW even though, as you have said, she doesn't care about this thread

I had to connect her with someone here.. scroll up..

I’m talking to her obviously..

[PilotMan]

You do not have the publishing or copyrights to post that photo. It has not been shown on English Rose’s profile and like you have implied you have saved, stored and shared her picture without permission.

I honestly don’t know  to be honest it dose look like that is Rose, I’m not sure on how the OP got the original photo.

You appear to contradict yourself, you say it wasn't shown on her profile and you don't know how the OP got it, but you also state that it appears to be Rose. So if it appears to be Rose and has an AW watermark, then it must have been posted on her profile.

Don’t shoot the messenger.. I’m not taking anyone to court 

I spoke to Rose yesterday, sorry to say I’m not Rose, she doesn’t actually care about the review, as there’s no actual truth to it. It’s the copyright to the picture i think she has an issue with..

Rose will not own that copyright, that will belong to AW. When anything is uploaded to AW you automatically hand over the rights to them and AW add their watermark to protect their rights. So it will have to be AW that pursues anything regarding copyright. So Rose won't be able to pursue any action against UKP for displaying the picture. But Rose already knew that, she's studying law isn't she 

Rose has 10 feedback on AW. She has received negative feedback from those who she’s refused to see

There are three poor reviews on AW, against each one Rose claims never to have seen the person. That's a high percentage of coincidence.

UKP is a forum for punters to share their experiences, at the moment you haven't shared anything, you've just posted your second hand version of an event where you weren't present, with no substantiation of your claims in any way whatsoever.

As it stands you're making it worse for Rose, and everything you do and say about her comes across as you being a misinformed and deluded White Knight.

Perhaps you should review someone else before you keep defending Rose, maybe try to gain yourself some credibility on this forum.

I look forward to reading your reviews (preferably not on Rose).

[daviemac]

You appear to contradict yourself, you say it wasn't shown on her profile and you don't know how the OP got it, but you also state that it appears to be Rose. So if it appears to be Rose and has an AW watermark, then it must have been posted on her profile.



Rose will not own that copyright, that will belong to AW. When anything is uploaded to AW you automatically hand over the rights to them and AW add their watermark to protect their rights. So it will have to be AW that pursues anything regarding copyright. So Rose won't be able to pursue any action against UKP for displaying the picture. But Rose already knew that, she's studying law isn't she 




There are three poor reviews on AW, against each one Rose claims never to have seen the person. That's a high percentage of coincidence.

UKP is a forum for punters to share their experiences, at the moment you haven't shared anything, you've just posted your second hand version of an event where you weren't present, with no substantiation of your claims in any way whatsoever.

As it stands you're making it worse for Rose, and everything you do and say about her comes across as you being a misinformed and deluded White Knight.

Perhaps you should review someone else before you keep defending Rose, maybe try to gain yourself some credibility on this forum.

I look forward to reading your reviews (preferably not on Rose).

She claims the photo on here was posted without her consent so I can only presume it is of her, though I have asked her for confirmation.

So far nothing has been produced to show this review to be fake.

[daviemac]

Update.

She knows the bloke in the screenshot is the OP because her and her mate "had a chat", now the photo of her that she said was posted without her permission and was going to take legal action on is not actually of her but of her mate who she looks like. She also claims the OP didn't see her but another SP who isn't active on AW.

All I can say is, as with all reviews, members should make up their own minds on it's authenticity and act accordingly.

[AffAlchemist]

I can't see what her issue is with the photo anyway as its none face out
The white knight needs to stop pandering to SP's
This thread would more than likely just had one or two comments on it and then died if it weren't for him
He's now tarnished his future reviews

thanks for the update
Not an SP worth seeing regardless as you just don't know if you are seeing her or her mate

[PilotMan]

not actually of her but of her mate who she looks like.

So she has admitted to using a fake picture on her profile. But she has still not substantiated anything else, other than to say the OP saw another random escort who isn't on AW.

So that begs the question, how does she know that, and what is her connection to that SP?

You can't make this stuff up 

[scutty brown]

Her comments also imply that the OP booked her, but she palmed him off with someone else who looks like her.
So she B&S him