Women's FIFA World Cup

[bigden40]

I'd love to put it up the Lionesses! 

To digress, just been watching the Australia - France penalty shoot out and it occurred to me that a couple of possible chances may have been missed - is it against the Laws of the Game that if the 'keeper saves but the ball is still in play for the penalty taker to run up and stick it in the back of the net or is that considered unsporting?
On the booking, it's strange how certain nationalities seem to be more prone to exaggerating an "injury" than others - for me the classic example (in the men's game) was a Brazilian player who had the ball kicked at him a bit hard, it hit him in the legs, but his hands shoot up to his head and he went down like he'd been shot! Maybe FIFA need to do video reviews and impose suspensions for feigning injury to gain advantage?

Unlike a normal penalty kick, you can’t score off a save or a rebound on a penalty shootout.

[daviemac]

I'd love to put it up the Lionesses! 

To digress, just been watching the Australia - France penalty shoot out and it occurred to me that a couple of possible chances may have been missed - is it against the Laws of the Game that if the 'keeper saves but the ball is still in play for the penalty taker to run up and stick it in the back of the net or is that considered unsporting?
On the booking, it's strange how certain nationalities seem to be more prone to exaggerating an "injury" than others - for me the classic example (in the men's game) was a Brazilian player who had the ball kicked at him a bit hard, it hit him in the legs, but his hands shoot up to his head and he went down like he'd been shot! Maybe FIFA need to do video reviews and impose suspensions for feigning injury to gain advantage?

In a penalty shootout the ball isn't 'in play', it's put it on the spot and kick it once and that's it, can't be kicked again.

 

[mr.bluesky]

I'd love to put it up the Lionesses! 

To digress, just been watching the Australia - France penalty shoot out and it occurred to me that a couple of possible chances may have been missed - is it against the Laws of the Game that if the 'keeper saves but the ball is still in play for the penalty taker to run up and stick it in the back of the net or is that considered unsporting?
On the booking, it's strange how certain nationalities seem to be more prone to exaggerating an "injury" than others - for me the classic example (in the men's game) was a Brazilian player who had the ball kicked at him a bit hard, it hit him in the legs, but his hands shoot up to his head and he went down like he'd been shot! Maybe FIFA need to do video reviews and impose suspensions for feigning injury to gain advantage?

In penalty shoot outs you only get one chance to score unlike a penalty in regulation time

[DastardlyDick]

In a penalty shootout the ball isn't 'in play', it's put it on the spot and kick it once and that's it, can't be kicked again.

Ah! Thank you for correcting my error - I should have known there'd be a flaw in my thinking 

[mr.bluesky]

Ah! Thank you for correcting my error - I should have known there'd be a flaw in my thinking 

Also In regulation time if a player takes a penalty and hits the post or crossbar without the goalkeeper touching it he cannot score from the rebound it must be touched by a second player 

[chrishornx]

no needs for penalty discussions today

 well done the Lionesses 

[Thephoenix]

Yes.... Lionesses v Matildas in the semis.

Just as well it didn't finish 0 - 0, as the Columbians would have won on national anthems.

Have you ever seen a team of women proudly singing their national anthem with such fervour?

C'mon charles!
You've had your go of God Save The King.
You don't need saving chum!
You're doing ok!

Watching the girls in France v Australia again singing with such enthusiasm to an anthem that actually means something to them.
Rant over!

Up the Lionesses!

[catweazle]

Half time in the semi,  Lionesses ahead, huge Aussie crowd silent!!

[DastardlyDick]

, huge Aussie crowd silent!!

Don't think I've ever seen or heard a bunch of Aussies that quiet in my life!
Is this the cue for the Australian Bra joke?

[webpunter]

What a shot by Sam Kerr
Get Bamford out & her in

[mr.bluesky]

2-1 England ,will they defend their lead or go for a third to kill the game off   
England have had the better chances, they need a third goal

[mr.bluesky]

3-1 England, get ready for the Aussie tears 😢

[timsussex]

What a shot by Sam Kerr
Get Bamford out & her in

Perhaps not; Kerr misses a sitter from a corner and Hemp goes up the other end sets us Russo
3-1

[webpunter]

Perhaps not; Kerr misses a sitter from a corner and Hemp goes up the other end sets us Russo
3-1

Bamford makes missing sitters look effortless
He needs to miss a good few in a match & eventually one somehow goes in
Occasionally

Russo's shot & goal across the keeper was pretty identical to the colombia winner

[chrishornx]

Fabulous win now for the final 

[willie loman]

Don't think I've ever seen or heard a bunch of Aussies that quiet in my life!
Is this the cue for the Australian Bra joke?

go ahead ive never heard it.

[Thephoenix]

Don't think I've ever seen or heard a bunch of Aussies that quiet in my life!
Is this the cue for the Australian Bra joke?

Following our unlucky test series I was bombarded with gloating messages from my many Aussie friends and family.

This time - nothing.
They must have all gone to bed early.

[DastardlyDick]

go ahead ive never heard it.

An Australian Bra - no cups, but lots of support!
OK, I'll get me coat!

[simon07]

Good try England Lionesses. Got to the final.
Spain had the better play, possession and energy.
Need to get more grass root investment in UK. Majority of Spain team in the Champion League winning Barcelona side.
Still nice pay day for each player on both sides.

[webpunter]

The Queen of Spain made the effort to get there
Shame Wills CBA to make the effort doing the same
Only President of the FA
Its not that difficult, private use of 1st class on BA

I reck KM banned him
There is some similarity in their looks
The QOS is fitter & has a great rack
A royal threat

Wonder if Wills was on a promise from KM that if he didn't attend that she'd reluctantly do some pegging 

I'm gonna put the QOS on the WWWWWE thread
Edit: she easily ticks all the boxes

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[catweazle]

Just an aside  now the dust is settling, having watched quite a few games, I was surprised at how many of the ladies, of all nationalities,  had bad complexions. Lots of spots, acne and other blemishes. I would have thought as healthy fit athletes that they wouldn't.

[mr.bluesky]

So all the media today will be about the Lionesses "heroic" failure. Like the men's team at the Euro's final and World cup semi final they bottled it when it mattered . It was a poor performance and they rarely threatened Spains goal. England were very hit or miss throughout the tournament their only good performance came against China in the group stage and Australia in the Semi final . Perhaps we will now hear the end of the calls for Sarina Weigman to take over as Manager of the men's team .

[mr.bluesky]

Just an aside  now the dust is settling, having watched quite a few games, I was surprised at how many of the ladies, of all nationalities,  had bad complexions. Lots of spots, acne and other blemishes. I would have thought as healthy fit athletes that they wouldn't.

That's because they don't wear make up during the game to cover them up 

[WARSZAWA16]

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[webpunter]

It didn't take long, not sure the plane carrying the team had even landed when this comes out
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Race row breaks out after Sky News panellist claims England's World Cup Lioness squad 'isn't that diverse' and is filled with 'blonde, blue-eyed girls

Talk about trying to self publicize
Me thinks him being on Sky will peter out
Nothing too rapid or this will be the next thing he'll be banging on about
Quietly dropped over a period of time

Managers pick the best players irrespective of what hair skin colour they have
Tho this hasn't dawned on this bell end

Hope he didn't watch the Sweden matches
The team filled with blondie fitties
He'd have flipped his lid 

[Watts.E.Dunn]

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Aww!! fucking excelment mate!!!

[Jonestown]

I'm enthralled that ageing feminists like Sarah Vine, Julie Bindel & Julie Burchill are now all superfine & experts on football, can we expect them to turn out on cold damp Saturday afternoons to support their girls of choice, or are they reserved for internationals in sunny climes only ?

[sparkus]

I note Morocco has a player by the name of Ghizlane Chebbak! 

[DastardlyDick]

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Ah the old "Australian Bra" gag rehashed!
Fine pair of chebs though 

[JontyR]

It didn't take long, not sure the plane carrying the team had even landed when this comes out
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Race row breaks out after Sky News panellist claims England's World Cup Lioness squad 'isn't that diverse' and is filled with 'blonde, blue-eyed girls

Talk about trying to self publicize
Me thinks him being on Sky will peter out
Nothing too rapid or this will be the next thing he'll be banging on about
Quietly dropped over a period of time

Managers pick the best players irrespective of what hair skin colour they have
Tho this hasn't dawned on this bell end

Hope he didn't watch the Sweden matches
The team filled with blondie fitties
He'd have flipped his lid 

Whilst the click bait headline is frustrating for everyone I think the point is about access. There is a difference between the make up of sporting teams both in terms of different sports and different genders within the same sport.

Is this, not symptomatic of racist / sexist coaches, but asking the question do girls, particularly from certain sections of society, get enough access to opportunities in sport?

There was one point a few years ago that well over half of England's Cricket XI were public schoolboys. Cricket is meant to be our national summer sport. I'm not saying there should be quotas or anything, just that there needs to be steps taking place to enable those with the most talent to have the opportunity to access it.

[willie loman]

Whilst the click bait headline is frustrating for everyone I think the point is about access. There is a difference between the make up of sporting teams both in terms of different sports and different genders within the same sport.

Is this, not symptomatic of racist / sexist coaches, but asking the question do girls, particularly from certain sections of society, get enough access to opportunities in sport?

There was one point a few years ago that well over half of England's Cricket XI were public schoolboys. Cricket is meant to be our national summer sport. I'm not saying there should be quotas or anything, just that there needs to be steps taking place to enable those with the most talent to have the opportunity to access it.

it really comes down to family attitudes, any one living in an urban area in britain has access to all manner of sport, but how many parents take their child swimming? The scottish cricket team seems to be mainly asian, those wicked public schools just not doing their duty up here.

[JontyR]

it really comes down to family attitudes, any one living in an urban area in britain has access to all manner of sport, but how many parents take their child swimming? The scottish cricket team seems to be mainly asian, those wicked public schools just not doing their duty up here.

I don't think its just family. The influence of parents will reduce over time just as the impact of peer pressure will increase.

There was a big thing about girls participation rates in sport matching those of boys at primary school but drop out rates increase massively when they go to senior school. I don't know if there are differences in relation to the sports or the ethnic backgrounds of the girls concerned.

[akauya]

The controversy of the Spanish Football Federation Luis Rubiales kissing one of the players, Jenni Hermoso, on the lips during celebrations still going on in Spain

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When I saw him congratulating the players during the post-match celebrations I did think he was getting a bit too 'handy' with them hugging them a bit too effusely even lifting them up, some of the girls looked uncomfortable.

[mr.bluesky]

The controversy of the Spanish Football Federation Luis Rubiales kissing one of the players, Jenni Hermoso, on the lips during celebrations still going on in Spain

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When I saw him congratulating the players during the post-match celebrations I did think he was getting a bit too 'handy' with them hugging them a bit too effusely even lifting them up, some of the girls looked uncomfortable.

He must have had lessons from Sepp Blatter 

[willie loman]

Just an aside  now the dust is settling, having watched quite a few games, I was surprised at how many of the ladies, of all nationalities,  had bad complexions. Lots of spots, acne and other blemishes. I would have thought as healthy fit athletes that they wouldn't.

i suspect its  down to the supplements and protein shakes, notice years ago that the serious swimmers in the pool tended to have acne

[Blackpool Rock]

I've not followed or read this thread as the women's WC didn't interest me but I just thought now it's over and we are again being led to believe that interest in the women's game is almost on a par with the men's game how the interest and number of posts on the women's WC thread compares to the last men's WC thread

Well the women's has a massive 2 pages totalling 85 posts including this one whereas the men's thread had a massive 30 pages totalling 1450 posts

I know this is a blokes site but certainly no comparison regarding the level of interest and that's even with England getting to the final

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=360546.0

[RedKettle]

I've not followed or read this thread as the women's WC didn't interest me but I just thought now it's over and we are again being led to believe that interest in the women's game is almost on a par with the men's game how the interest and number of posts on the women's WC thread compares to the last men's WC thread

Well the women's has a massive 2 pages totalling 85 posts including this one whereas the men's thread had a massive 30 pages totalling 1450 posts

I know this is a blokes site but certainly no comparison regarding the level of interest and that's even with England getting to the final

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That has to be one of the most ridiculous uses of statistic ever!

For a start you are knocking down a claim that no serious person is making that interest is "almost on a par".  There remains a massive difference, which the FA for example gives as the rationale for the difference in manager pa - £400k and £4m.

The claim would be that interest has massively increased over the Euros and world cup and there is plenty of proper evidence of that.

Finally a key part of that claim is that interest is massive amongst women, who tend not to be members on here.

[shaft10]

It's unfortunate for Spain that the World Cup is only going to be remembered for one thing following 'that kiss' after the final ...

[DastardlyDick]

The controversy of the Spanish Football Federation Luis Rubiales kissing one of the players, Jenni Hermoso, on the lips during celebrations still going on in Spain

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When I saw him congratulating the players during the post-match celebrations I did think he was getting a bit too 'handy' with them hugging them a bit too effusely even lifting them up, some of the girls looked uncomfortable.

I see that he's now claiming that it was "consensual" - I'm no lip reader, especially in Spanish, but I didn't see much conversation take place, and, judging by her body language,  Jenni Hermoso certainly wasn't expecting it!
IMO, he'd have been better to say "heat of the moment, very sorry, won't happen again, etc etc" and make bloody sure it doesn't happen again.
The crotch grabbing is far less easy to explain away and he should be censured for that, it's hardly a "natural" reaction after all.
According to the BBC, the entire squad has now refused to play for Spain until he's gone, and there are Law suits flying in all directions, including one accusing Hermoso of lying about it not being consensual!

[ulstersubbie]

I see that he's now claiming that it was "consensual" - I'm no lip reader, especially in Spanish, but I didn't see much conversation take place, and, judging by her body language,  Jenni Hermoso certainly wasn't expecting it!
IMO, he'd have been better to say "heat of the moment, very sorry, won't happen again, etc etc" and make bloody sure it doesn't happen again.
The crotch grabbing is far less easy to explain away and he should be censured for that, it's hardly a "natural" reaction after all.

Like most on here I have very little interest in women's football. Is Hermoso a lesbian, a lot of female footballers seem to be, if she is a dyke then I can well imagine her reaction when the fellow kissed her. As for the crotch grabbing, that's totally unacceptable, it seems our Spanish friend has wandering hands. He's probably better off just vacating his position for the greater good of the women's game in Spain.

[RandomGuy99]

He should just admit he was wrong and resign.

[RedKettle]

Like most on here I have very little interest in women's football. Is Hermoso a lesbian, a lot of female footballers seem to be, if she is a dyke then I can well imagine her reaction when the fellow kissed her. As for the crotch grabbing, that's totally unacceptable, it seems our Spanish friend has wandering hands. He's probably better off just vacating his position for the greater good of the women's game in Spain.

I think most young women would object to being grabbed and kissed on the lips by a middle aged man. Her sexual preferences do not matter.

[DastardlyDick]

I think most young women would object to being grabbed and kissed on the lips by a middle aged man. Her sexual preferences do not matter.

+1

[Blackpool Rock]

I see that he's now claiming that it was "consensual" - I'm no lip reader, especially in Spanish, but I didn't see much conversation take place, and, judging by her body language,  Jenni Hermoso certainly wasn't expecting it!
IMO, he'd have been better to say "heat of the moment, very sorry, won't happen again, etc etc" and make bloody sure it doesn't happen again.
The crotch grabbing is far less easy to explain away and he should be censured for that, it's hardly a "natural" reaction after all.
According to the BBC, the entire squad has now refused to play for Spain until he's gone, and there are Law suits flying in all directions, including one accusing Hermoso of lying about it not being consensual!

Well the Spanish FA are now going to take action, unfortunately it's against her for lying about it not being consensual 
Seriously you couldn't make this shit up, who the hell is advising them 

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At least Fifa who have had their own share of controversy over the years appear to be doing the right thing for a change and have suspended him

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[webpunter]

Well the Spanish FA are now going to take action, unfortunately it's against her for lying about it not being consensual 
Seriously you couldn't make this shit up, who the hell is advising them 

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Megan Rapinoe attacked the “deep level of misogyny and sexism” in the Spanish football federation
She has hit the nail on the head, dead centre 

The male dominated Spanish FA [SFA] are so misogynistic they can't see anything untoward 
Bear in mind that La Liga are corrupt & Barca / Real focused this comes as no surprise
I expect to see some more suspensions in the SFA when FIFA & the spanish media really get going

[Blackpool Rock]

You really couldn't

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Megan Rapinoe attacked the “deep level of misogyny and sexism” in the Spanish football federation
She has hit the nail on the head, dead centre 

The male dominated Spanish FA [SFA] are so misogynistic they can't see anything untoward 
Bear in mind that La Liga are corrupt & Barca / Real focused this comes as no surprise
I expect to see some more suspensions in the SFA when FIFA & the spanish media really get going

I know Spain is still about 20 or so years behind where we are in terms of equality and enlightenment etc but i'm surprised in this day and age that anyone would have thought this strategy of deny then double down and accuse the women of lying would even be remotely acceptable 

It's not quite on the same level but it just reminds me of some backward countries where a woman gets raped then stoned to death for her "crime" 

[billybobsmith]

I think the entire Spanish language should be scrapped due to its outdated genders.  How offensive must it be having everything as male or female.

Whilst maybe it was too much (although she didn't seem to protest, be put out, or anything negative at the time, though that doesn't justify anything), you could argue that "he touched my hair in an inappropriate manner whilst putting a medal over my head".  "I was hugged by another player, who is a lesbian, on the pitch and I felt violated being a heterosexual woman" etc.  Things are getting to the stage where anything could be deemed inappropriate.

Not sure if the French (plus other Europeans) with their kissing as greetings, those from the Middle East, Eskimo / Inuit nose rubbing etc. could be now be deemed inappropriate, sexist, as assault or whatever.

[daviemac]

I think the entire Spanish language should be scrapped due to its outdated genders.  How offensive must it be having everything as male or female.

Whilst maybe it was too much (although she didn't seem to protest, be put out, or anything negative at the time, though that doesn't justify anything), you could argue that "he touched my hair in an inappropriate manner whilst putting a medal over my head".  "I was hugged by another player, who is a lesbian, on the pitch and I felt violated being a heterosexual woman" etc.  Things are getting to the stage where anything could be deemed inappropriate.

Not sure if the French (plus other Europeans) with their kissing as greetings, those from the Middle East, Eskimo / Inuit nose rubbing etc. could be now be deemed inappropriate, sexist, as assault or whatever.

I've never heard anything so ridiculous, he kissed her on the lips, the Europeans you talk about who kiss as a greeting do so on the cheek. What he did is sexual assault.

BTW all the coaching staff have resigned in protest over it. Good job they have a better moral compass than you.

In a statement, the coaching staff said: "Those named below express their firm and resounding condemnation of the conduct shown by the RFEF president.

[DastardlyDick]

I've never heard anything so ridiculous, he kissed her on the lips, the Europeans you talk about who kiss as a greeting do so on the cheek. What he did is sexual assault.

You can blatantly tell from her body language that what he did was anything but "consensual"  ffs! I'm no body language expert but that just said "what the actual fuck?" very, very clearly, and her sexual orientation is utterly irrelevant. Personally, I'd have given him a hefty right hook on the spot, and hang the consequences!

[daviemac]

You can blatantly tell from her body language that what he did was anything but "consensual"  ffs! I'm no body language expert but that just said "what the actual fuck?" very, very clearly, and her sexual orientation is utterly irrelevant. Personally, I'd have given him a hefty right hook on the spot, and hang the consequences!

Don't know why you're quoting me, I was responding to billybobsmith's post.