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Offline Count Duckula

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Offline deg_dilemma

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I didn't have any problems accessing the link.

But it is a reallllly long article and I do ponder on how much time some people have to read random stuff  :sarcastic: ... I barely got through a couple of pages and then gave up.


Offline advent2016

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I used the Bypass paywalls plug-in
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Offline Dylanbob

I think a lot of them do it for a few months, get a regular roster they are happy with. Turn the profile off and plod along.

Offline jesse4585

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It's very long, but here's a few extracts

"OnlyFans has thrived by promising its reported 190 million users that they can have direct access to an estimated 2.1 million creators. It’s impossible for even a modestly popular creator to cope with the avalanche of messages they receive each day. The $5.6 billion industry has solved this logistical conundrum by entrusting its chat duties to a hidden proletariat, a mass of freelancers who sustain the illusion that OnlyFans’ creators are always eager to engage—sexually and otherwise—with paying customers."

"I set out to interview some veteran chatters. But nearly everyone I contacted was reluctant to open up"

"I realized that my best shot at understanding how chatters operate would be to join their ranks."

"I asked the owner of a top-tier OnlyFans agency for tips on how to make myself an appealing candidate. He was pessimistic about my odds of getting hired, mainly because I’m American. He said agencies tend to favor contractors who reside in lower-wage countries. "

... takes him a few weeks, but eventually he's gets a few jobs, mostly paying $1-$4 / hour, sometimes with a very small % commission.

"Luka then told a disgusting yet compelling story about the time he was eating mac and cheese while chatting, and his meal’s squishiness inspired him to invent a sexual scenario that made a subscriber horny enough to tip $600."

"Luka instructed us to cycle through three tasks at the start of every chat. We first had to check on the subscriber’s emotional state—are they happy, sad, bored, excited? After that, we were supposed to perform an activity check—what is the subscriber doing, did they have a tough day? Lastly, and most importantly, we had to find a way to assess how much money they might be willing to spend on photos and videos of the creator we were imitating. This involves titillating the subscriber a bit, then sending them some modestly priced content that they must pay to unlock. If the subscriber makes the purchase quickly and affirms in writing that they enjoyed what they saw, the next step is to introduce more expensive options into the conversation."

"We have literal slaves on this account, meaning these people are so in love and obsessed and literally infatuated by anything that the girl does that they will open up their wallet to about $100,000 a month. And they will literally dump it all onto the girl. Just dumping, dumping, dumping, because we’ve done a good job of evaluating these people and dominating them and giving them enough praise."

Lots more of the same, a few of the agency bosses encourage the chatters to enage nicely with the simps, most just encourage them to be as ruthless in trying to sell as much as possible as quickly as poss, including with lies like "if you buy this you'll get an extra point, and if you get to 100 points you get to fuck me"

Offline Cheshuk

the simps

Digital sex is an interesting space to observe, an open secret for a while that content creators use people and chat bots to speak on their behalf. I've been amazed by the growing number of people with ai girlfriend apps, throwing money at 100% digital entities.. hard to get my head around that one, but will be interesting to see the impact of that space on OF as it continues to develop in the coming years.

Offline wilbers

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I could read the whole thing without being a subscriber - possibly because there is a pop-up to accept the privacy agreement that I didn't click on.

Offline Payyourwaymate

Digital sex is an interesting space to observe, an open secret for a while that content creators use people and chat bots to speak on their behalf. I've been amazed by the growing number of people with ai girlfriend apps, throwing money at 100% digital entities.. hard to get my head around that one, but will be interesting to see the impact of that space on OF as it continues to develop in the coming years.

I think for some, loneliness makes people do things they otherwise would not have imagined themselves doing under normal circumstances. The desire for intimacy, for someone to talk to or to feel validated I guess is something people will do whatever it takes just feel, even if it is just an illusion from another person or digitally I guess. It's very unfortunate but seems to be the way things are going, that's my personal opinion on the matter anyway. I very well could be way off the mark and it is a form pure entertainment for them.

Offline Cheshuk

I think for some, loneliness makes people do things they otherwise would not have imagined themselves doing under normal circumstances. The desire for intimacy, for someone to talk to or to feel validated I guess is something people will do whatever it takes just feel, even if it is just an illusion from another person or digitally I guess. It's very unfortunate but seems to be the way things are going, that's my personal opinion on the matter anyway. I very well could be way off the mark and it is a form pure entertainment for them.

That's it, the root of why people are driven to them makes sense according to the statistics around dating etc. It's that people develop genuine feelings, fall in love with these digital avatars, that I find hard to grasp. It seems they are finding it sufficient to fulfil/satiate the desire.

I downloaded Replika app after seeing it on the news to see what the hype was about. The conversational level was impressive, but I haven't had much conversation with ai so was novel to me. Beyond that held my interest for 10 minutes and seemed like an interesting gimmick, I could understand if it had a few serious users, but 10m users is significant and growing.

The arguments for it being a serious threat to Onlyfans as the tech develops seem very plausible, I think it's just the human behaviour thats unpredictable as all this is unexplored territory, and people have been responding to the new sex tech in unexpected/surprising ways, by actually gravitating to it and making it part of their lives. Interesting space to observe, and possibly the way things will go for many.

Online LLPunting

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Most browsers have a "Reader Mode", switch that on when you hit a paywall site and many will show the full article (as this one did).  Some of the legacy media American sites do however prevent this working e.g. NYT, WSJ I think.  Just move on to another site as the useful details are almost always available elsewhere, useful exclusives or editorials with substantial unique insight are pretty rare.

Offline Doctormike

I’m an old punter returning but don’t have the desire as I’m hoping for . Dont think it’s an age thing but I think the women she changed . Can’t find the type of women I was used to .

There are more negative reviews on here that what they used to be 8-9 years ago
Also less English women too

I wonder if Onlyfans is responsible for the lack of talent on adult work nowadays

People’s thoughts ??

Offline lewisjones23

I used to be what I'd deem an active punter, every single day I would be actively seeking a punt out, sometimes that would just be checking AW or firing a couple of enquiry messages out, others it would result in a punt.

Now I see myself as a passive punter, I can't really be arsed with the time or effort it takes to seek out someone I want to see.

I have an AW hotlist that has 7 or 8 profiles on it, it isn't very often that everything lines up to enable me to have a punt now.

The game has changed but I think me as a punter, has changed more

Offline finn5555

So my tuppence worth …

I have two regular girls I see, one I met via AW 2 years ago we now meet when diaries align and have a kind of arrangement whereas we go out together for food drinks gigs etc and I don’t pay (well besides dinner) but if we meet to fuck, which we do often, I pay so that works well for us both.
The other I pay her going rate and we meet for either an hour maximum two.

However, I do get bored easily so seek new SP’s for fun either via reverse bookings or scout them out same day. As my reviews show it’s really a mixed bag and the problem being less choice for what I call decent potential prospects.

I do try to avoid non English SP’s so that limits my options.

I personally think that due to UKP we are seeing more negative reports as collectively we won’t accept second best especially when prices are at an all-time high.

That being said there are still some decent price providers out there.




Offline southcoastpunter


I wonder if Onlyfans is responsible for the lack of talent on adult work nowadays

People’s thoughts ??

if you looked back a bit or did a search, you will see that there are a number of discussions on this where guys have "given their thoughts". here is one thread:
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=377801.100

« Last Edit: June 09, 2024, 12:34:16 am by southcoastpunter »

Offline finn5555

if you looked back a bit or did a search, you will see that there are a number of discussions on this where guys have "given their thoughts". here is one thread:
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=377801.100

I don’t think OF has had an impact personally

Offline jamiekinkxxx

I’m an old punter returning but don’t have the desire as I’m hoping for . Dont think it’s an age thing but I think the women she changed . Can’t find the type of women I was used to .

There are more negative reviews on here that what they used to be 8-9 years ago
Also less English women too

I wonder if Onlyfans is responsible for the lack of talent on adult work nowadays

People’s thoughts ??

Yawn  :dash:

As pointed out by  southcoastpunter this has been discussed above and beyond what is really necessary, esp. new threads about the same ofl topic.

My thoughts:

There is still fun to be had
There are still great English girls
Perhaps you need to dig a little deeper with your research
AW isn't the only access to girls either


« Last Edit: June 09, 2024, 12:56:41 am by jamiekinkxxx »

Offline willie loman

i imagine sites like seeking arrangements are syphoning off some hookers, plus a lot of girls dip in to prostitution and then retire, its worth collecting contact details, as some girls are active but off grid, but little doubt that there is a shortage of anglophones.

Offline daviemac

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I wonder if Onlyfans is responsible for the lack of talent on adult work nowadays

People’s thoughts ??
There's a 3 page thread on the subject still on the first page so I'll merge this with that.

Offline akauya

I’m an old punter returning but don’t have the desire as I’m hoping for . Dont think it’s an age thing but I think the women she changed . Can’t find the type of women I was used to .

There are more negative reviews on here that what they used to be 8-9 years ago
Also less English women too

I wonder if Onlyfans is responsible for the lack of talent on adult work nowadays

People’s thoughts ??

My thoughts? I think you need to go to Specsavers. I just looked at the reviews of your area (North West) and just on the first page I found this:

6 Negatives,
6 Neutral,
36 Positives!

As for OnlyFans, Jesus wept, that myth has been debunked time and time again! Just looked at the previous pages on this thread.

Lastly I second Jamie's thoughts:

Yawn  :dash:

As pointed out by  southcoastpunter this has been discussed above and beyond what is really necessary, esp. new threads about the same ofl topic.

My thoughts:

There is still fun to be had
There are still great English girls
Perhaps you need to dig a little deeper with your research
AW isn't the only access to girls either

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« Last Edit: June 09, 2024, 09:33:35 am by akauya »

Offline Munter84

I don’t think OF has had an impact personally

I feel there has to be *some* crossover happening, for example the fact that AW allows SPs to toggle between escorting, cam, and calls. A few of the ladies on my hotlist seem to have switched from meets to camming, either primarily or exclusively. For the ladies pretty and savvy enough to do so it must be appealing - safer, cleaner, no overheads in terms of travel or hotels, and potentially more lucrative if they can drum up the interest.

Even so there are plenty of girls who do OF/camshows who would never consider escorting, and plenty of escorts who wouldn't make it as content creators for whatever reason. I suspect that the rise of OF and amateur porn in general has mainly been to the detriment of professional porn.

Offline simon07

That's it, the root of why people are driven to them makes sense according to the statistics around dating etc. It's that people develop genuine feelings, fall in love with these digital avatars, that I find hard to grasp. It seems they are finding it sufficient to fulfil/satiate the desire.

I downloaded Replika app after seeing it on the news to see what the hype was about. The conversational level was impressive, but I haven't had much conversation with ai so was novel to me. Beyond that held my interest for 10 minutes and seemed like an interesting gimmick, I could understand if it had a few serious users, but 10m users is significant and growing.

The arguments for it being a serious threat to Onlyfans as the tech develops seem very plausible, I think it's just the human behaviour thats unpredictable as all this is unexplored territory, and people have been responding to the new sex tech in unexpected/surprising ways, by actually gravitating to it and making it part of their lives. Interesting space to observe, and possibly the way things will go for many.

Many thanks for this. Is it free or do you have to pay monthly/annual?
Are you still using it?  :drinks:

Offline Iceman90

I can’t stand the fact that sites like OF exist. Women shouldn’t be paid a penny for that rubbish. I want full sex with the sexiest girls. Nowadays, the most attractive ones have the luxury of just camming and making “content” instead of escorting and that really annoys me. However, you’d be surprised how many random civvy girls on dating apps are up for paid sex without actually being “escorts”.

Offline RandomGuy99

I can’t stand the fact that sites like OF exist. Women shouldn’t be paid a penny for that rubbish. I want full sex with the sexiest girls. Nowadays, the most attractive ones have the luxury of just camming and making “content” instead of escorting and that really annoys me. However, you’d be surprised how many random civvy girls on dating apps are up for paid sex without actually being “escorts”.
It doesn't bother me at all. They have the looks that guys are willing to pay to see, so why shouldn't they make the money while they can?

Nobody is forcing people to buy from them.

If a woman is having sex for money. It sounds like you've found some who are doing it on the downlow. Ssshh it's a secret

Offline southcoastpunter

I can’t stand the fact that sites like OF exist. Women shouldn’t be paid a penny for that rubbish. I want full sex with the sexiest girls. Nowadays, the most attractive ones have the luxury of just camming and making “content” instead of escorting and that really annoys me. However, you’d be surprised how many random civvy girls on dating apps are up for paid sex without actually being “escorts”.

you seem to get annoyed very easily - and its not just about what YOU want! Personally i have never paid to look at a cam but respects guys rights to do so if THEY want to!

Offline hendrix

I can’t stand the fact that sites like OF exist. Women shouldn’t be paid a penny for that rubbish. I want full sex with the sexiest girls. Nowadays, the most attractive ones have the luxury of just camming and making “content” instead of escorting and that really annoys me. However, you’d be surprised how many random civvy girls on dating apps are up for paid sex without actually being “escorts”.

I'm very glad that OF exists, and am happy to pay for the content *I * want. I also punt. It's not that difficult to understand that these are two different experiences that a person might want.

Being annoyed that women have choices is really weird tbh. Grow up.

Offline jamiekinkxxx

I can’t stand the fact that sites like OF exist. Women shouldn’t be paid a penny for that rubbish. I want full sex with the sexiest girls. Nowadays, the most attractive ones have the luxury of just camming and making “content” instead of escorting and that really annoys me. However, you’d be surprised how many random civvy girls on dating apps are up for paid sex without actually being “escorts”.

Just an odd post  :unknown:

Offline Payyourwaymate

I can’t stand the fact that sites like OF exist. Women shouldn’t be paid a penny for that rubbish. I want full sex with the sexiest girls. Nowadays, the most attractive ones have the luxury of just camming and making “content” instead of escorting and that really annoys me. However, you’d be surprised how many random civvy girls on dating apps are up for paid sex without actually being “escorts”.

Why can't they be paid for it? There is a demand and they are supplying to meet that said demand. Your argument can be extrapolated to various other "professions" that can be argued the workers should not be paid based on the perceived worth of what they do (eg football, where they just run around kicking a ball. There is a market around that aswell which actually justifies why they get paid the said amounts too); but we live in a free market, capitalistic soceity.

You seem to be annoyed at what you perceive to be "easy work" allowing them a perceived higher level of material living. Firstly, most people on OF do not make what the top % on OF make. Secondly, the work is not necessarily easier than escorting. The days of any slightly attractive woman being able to fling up some stuff using insta pics, feet pics or sub par videos on OF and make mid 5 figures to 6 figures like back in 2020 are long gone. 

There are articles if you look around that state:

    "The top 10% OnlyFans content creators earn around $1000 a month.
    The top 1% OnlyFans creators generate over $6000 monthly.
    The top 0.1% OnlyFans models generate revenue of over $100,000 every month."

External Link/Members Only

"300+ creators earn $1M+ per year
16,000+ creators earn $50,000+ per year.
The median account makes $180/mo. That means ~$140/mo after taxes
Top 1% of the creators earn 33% of the income
Top 10% of the creators earn 73% of the income"

External Link/Members Only

It's pretty well established that OF is not the gold rush to easy money if you actually look around. You do the numbers, it seems that the amount of OF account content creators is more than 1 million but less than 15% of the content creators are making $1000 a month? That's less than minimum wage....luxury living where? Does not sound like an attractive manner of making money to me with all the cons it brings.

You are wasting energy being angry at the concept of OF when in reality, the financial gain for the content creators is smoke and mirrors. 

Offline jamiekinkxxx

Why can't they be paid for it? There is a demand and they are supplying to meet that said demand. Your argument can be extrapolated to various other "professions" that can be argued the workers should not be paid based on the perceived worth of what they do (eg football, where they just run around kicking a ball. There is a market around that aswell which actually justifies why they get paid the said amounts too); but we live in a free market, capitalistic soceity.

You seem to be annoyed at what you perceive to be "easy work" allowing them a perceived higher level of material living. Firstly, most people on OF do not make what the top % on OF make. Secondly, the work is not necessarily easier than escorting. The days of any slightly attractive woman being able to fling up some stuff using insta pics, feet pics or sub par videos on OF and make mid 5 figures to 6 figures like back in 2020 are long gone. 

There are articles if you look around that state:

    "The top 10% OnlyFans content creators earn around $1000 a month.
    The top 1% OnlyFans creators generate over $6000 monthly.
    The top 0.1% OnlyFans models generate revenue of over $100,000 every month."

External Link/Members Only

"300+ creators earn $1M+ per year
16,000+ creators earn $50,000+ per year.
The median account makes $180/mo. That means ~$140/mo after taxes
Top 1% of the creators earn 33% of the income
Top 10% of the creators earn 73% of the income"

External Link/Members Only

It's pretty well established that OF is not the gold rush to easy money if you actually look around. You do the numbers, it seems that the amount of OF account content creators is more than 1 million but less than 15% of the content creators are making $1000 a month? That's less than minimum wage....luxury living where? Does not sound like an attractive manner of making money to me with all the cons it brings.

You are wasting energy being angry at the concept of OF when in reality, the financial gain for the content creators is smoke and mirrors.

 :thumbsup:

Offline Mr Sinister

I can’t stand the fact that sites like OF exist. Women shouldn’t be paid a penny for that rubbish. I want full sex with the sexiest girls. Nowadays, the most attractive ones have the luxury of just camming and making “content” instead of escorting and that really annoys me. However, you’d be surprised how many random civvy girls on dating apps are up for paid sex without actually being “escorts”.

It's just how the game goes, women have life on easy mode since the beginning of time they have always been able to commodify their bodies, the digital world is just the new way you can't be annoyed at it when it's the case of supply and demand. You can still have sex with 'sexy' women but you'll just have to go travelling to other countries for that. Yeah there are civvy girls about on all sorts of platforms who sell sex if you look hard enough you'll find them.

These girls are usually studying or working PT jobs and don't want to do escorting full time or set up profiles on places like AW which could expose them