Cristel Hot Blonde, Kidlington - Demanded and got full refund

[Cunning Punt]

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Comms: Contact was by text. I booked 30mins @ £80. Cristel was well reviewed her so I made the schoolboy error of not checking services at any point, either by text or before handing over the cash.

Location: Flat above some shops in Kidlington used by touring WGs. There is free parking and it is fairly discreet. Bedroom is fine and there is a nice walkin shower.

The girl: The AW photos are probably of her a few years ago. She has a rather miserable looking face now. If you add her number on WhatsApp then you can see for yourself. Body is similar to the photos.

Details: When I entered the flat she was laughing to herself, God knows what about because she speaks hardly any English. She could have been high on something. Not a good start but I handed over the cash and took a shower.

When we went on the bed to start the action she seemed totally disinterested. Avoided kissing which annoyed me and then got a condom out to put on my dick. To which I replied I said "no, I want blow job without condom". To which she kept saying "NO! CONDOM". When I insisted without, she told me to leave.

There was a bit of a tooing and froing, me telling her in English that OWO was on her profile and, firmly, that I wanted my money back, her muttering in Portugese.

Cristel got Google Translate on her phone to say she wasn't going to suck my dirty dick. Well, my dick was clean and in any case, she hadn't even looked at it before reaching for the condom or saying it was dirty at the time.

Realising I was going nowhere, she went and got my money. I checked it was the full amount, took my time getting dressed and left, telling her to change her profile.

Conclusion: While an annoying experience, I took the positives/learning points. It was a reminder to me to at least check services by text beforehand and, despite being a seasoned punter, this was the first time I have had the balls to stop and ask for my money back. And there was no harm done as I did indeed get a full refund, so donated my £80 to a far more deserving (charitable) cause.

[Lewis]

In her defence, her profile mentions OWO at discretion.

Which basically means that she rarely does OWO, if at all. Not checked previous previews.
But in any case, a lot of AW profiles are created by someone else and they tick any of the boxes. As she can hardly speak any English, it's unlikely she can write in English either. I would say 100% that profile wasn't written by her.

[Mightier Than]

Good to hear you got you money back CP

Not in her defence, profile also clearly states Oral without Protection in likes list, and OWO next to a green tick in the top line, suggesting it should not be a rarity or an extra, but a normality.  She clearly didn't write the profile and all the blogs, which show a good command of English.  I wonder if she knows what the profile says.

[funlovingguy]

the profile doesnt say OWO, i would give the benefit of doubt to her, laughing at herself it shouldnt have annoyned you, but i dont think its fair to get the full refund, also end of the day we are not just bodies

[contentguy]

Thanks for the review CP, it reminds me of your comments on my review of SaucieJessie when I did similar and paid, having confirmed services by email, then she started to say things we’d agreed weren’t available.

Well done for walking and getting your money back.

Hope you’re going to review the ‘charitable cause’ 

[Condominium]

the profile doesnt say OWO, i would give the benefit of doubt to her, laughing at herself it shouldnt have annoyned you, but i dont think its fair to get the full refund, also end of the day we are not just bodies

Agree a full refund is harsh on her, the patriarchy at its finest.

I also think it’s possible to laugh in languages other than English.

[Yellowman1]

Deserved negative and glad you got all your money back

She def does do owo as had from her

[Cunning Punt]

the profile doesnt say OWO, i would give the benefit of doubt to her, laughing at herself it shouldnt have annoyned you, but i dont think its fair to get the full refund, also end of the day we are not just bodies

This comment makes you seem like a whiteknight - and what's more, you've got your facts wrong by not bothering to read her profile or my review properly. It clearly says OWO and deep sloppy blow job in the very first line of her profile! And then mentioning facials later on so that also indicates OWO. Plus other punters have reported getting OWO.

The profile also promises a girlfriend experience, and she totally avoided any kissing, which is what annoyed me along with no OWO. I never said her laughing annoyed me, it was just a comment in passing about her oddness, and as said she seemed to under the influence of something.

Hope you’re going to review the ‘charitable cause’ 

Well, no, I meant that comment literally with no inverted commas, so I'm not going to review a young people's charity on a punting site. 

[funlovingguy]

This comment makes you seem like a whiteknight - and what's more, you've got your facts wrong by not bothering to read her profile or my review properly. It clearly says OWO and deep sloppy blow job in the very first line of her profile! And then mentioning facials later on so that also indicates OWO. Plus other punters have reported getting OWO.

The profile also promises a girlfriend experience, and she totally avoided any kissing, which is what annoyed me along with no OWO. I never said her laughing annoyed me, it was just a comment in passing about her oddness, and as said she seemed to under the influence of something.

Well, no, I meant that comment literally with no inverted commas, so I'm not going to review a young people's charity on a punting site. 

NO WHITE NIGHT NOTHING , it clearly says Oral without (at discretion), read this in the profile, you should have asked her why she doesnt want to do OWO with you, while she has done for others which is to her discretion, i am stating my opinion based on the events in the post. you have taken a full refund after staying and shower, have some consideration

[Mightier Than]

the profile doesnt say OWO, i would give the benefit of doubt to her, laughing at herself it shouldnt have annoyned you, but i dont think its fair to get the full refund, also end of the day we are not just bodies

It clearly said OWO yesterday, and still does today.  It's exactly where I said it did - in the top line and under Oral without (at discretion). today.  (I hope I've managed to attach the images - I'll only know when it's posted).

IF it had only said at discretion then you have a point.  But a lots of WGs who have Oral Without Protection also have (at discretion) in their Likes list, I'm presuming it's to ensure her profile would come up in the search whichever term is used.

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[nohey1]

Agree a full refund is harsh on her, the patriarchy at its finest.

 

[Kevin Boss]

What was he going to do?? Pay her for google translate and talking? If he can stand his ground and get a full refund without no violence or verbal abuse to the wg so be it. After all services requested were not provided. OP seems some wouldnhsve preferred you left a few Dosh for the shower usage 

[DevilTimed]

In her defence, her profile mentions OWO at discretion.

Which basically means that she rarely does OWO, if at all. Not checked previous previews.

She has sucked my cock without a dom on on two different occasions. 

Discretion just means they reserve the right not to do something with someone who rocks up with a dirty cock, or smelling like dog shit. I think that is a more than reasonable thing for a girl in this position to do.

I've been fortunate enough that almost every girl I have seen, outside of TOFTs that were rubbish, were up for the discretionary services. Be polite, be presentable, don't be a cunt. Goes a long way.

[DouglasReynholm]

Well done getting your money back Cunning Punt. Punters need to hold the line.

[Cunning Punt]

She has sucked my cock without a dom on on two different occasions. 

Discretion just means they reserve the right not to do something with someone who rocks up with a dirty cock, or smelling like dog shit. I think that is a more than reasonable thing for a girl in this position to do.

I've been fortunate enough that almost every girl I have seen, outside of TOFTs that were rubbish, were up for the discretionary services. Be polite, be presentable, don't be a cunt. Goes a long way.

So what's your point, that I wasn't polite, wasn't presentable and was a cunt? I was clean and polite. When she clearly couldn't be bothered to provide any sort of service then I was firm but polite, and not polite after her histrionics.

[JonasG]

How is this even up for debate lol. Of course he deserves his money back.

She's asked him to leave 1st of all and 2nd of all no action has taken place!

What guy isn't asking for their money back in that situation?

[Condominium]

So 5 glowing positives then she suddenly becomes a miserable bitch withholding services.

OP admits upfront to a schoolboy error of not checking services. No one seemingly thinks that should call into question his demand for a full refund

She laughing to herself and not even in English
- what the hell is that comment about?!

After bravely battling for his full refund the OP then rubs it in by dragging out his departure. £80 clearly not sufficient.

As I said before, the patriarchy at its finest.

And yes, I’d have left £20 so I’m probably another white knight (yawn)

[contentguy]

So 5 glowing positives then she suddenly becomes a miserable bitch withholding services.

OP admits upfront to a schoolboy error of not checking services. No one seemingly thinks that should call into question his demand for a full refund

She laughing to herself and not even in English
- what the hell is that comment about?!

After bravely battling for his full refund the OP then rubs it in by dragging out his departure. £80 clearly not sufficient.

As I said before, the patriarchy at its finest.

And yes, I’d have left £20 so I’m probably another white knight (yawn)

It’s first time CP had asked for a refund in 119 reviews!

It feels to me like the experience was so poor as she was high on something.

Why don’t you send her £20 if you want to white knight her!

[nohey1]

So 5 glowing positives then she suddenly becomes a miserable bitch withholding services.

OP admits upfront to a schoolboy error of not checking services. No one seemingly thinks that should call into question his demand for a full refund

She laughing to herself and not even in English
- what the hell is that comment about?!

After bravely battling for his full refund the OP then rubs it in by dragging out his departure. £80 clearly not sufficient.

As I said before, the patriarchy at its finest.

And yes, I’d have left £20 so I’m probably another white knight (yawn)

This coming from a man who pays women to fuck him. The irony is palpable. I'd seriously reconsider leaving your politics at the door on a site about punting, dude.

[JonasG]

Why are you giving her £20 lol. What's it for?

Honestly, this is a clear case of full refund. She's asked you to leave and no action has happened. Her previous good reviews aren't relevant here.

Sometimes services aren't agreed before hand and as you walk in and before the action/just as the action is about to happen, you realise she's lied on her profile.

I remember in my early punting days before I could rely on this forum's research, I was expecting a GFE from her profile and preferences. Gave her the money, she stored it. She came back in and I enquired about GFE and she didn't know what that meant and refused kissing etc. She obviously didn't know her profile and I said I wanted my money back and she went to get it. (A bit diff cos she didn't ask me to leave but still same principles)

Even a timid punter would be asking for a full refund when put in a similar situation as this, it's a no brainer.

[daviemac]

So 5 glowing positives then she suddenly becomes a miserable bitch withholding services.

OP admits upfront to a schoolboy error of not checking services. No one seemingly thinks that should call into question his demand for a full refund

She laughing to herself and not even in English
- what the hell is that comment about?!

After bravely battling for his full refund the OP then rubs it in by dragging out his departure. £80 clearly not sufficient.

As I said before, the patriarchy at its finest.

And yes, I’d have left £20 so I’m probably another white knight (yawn)

What have previous reviews got to do with anything,     the OP posted about his experience at the time he was there.

You should really get off your white charger mate, white knights don't go down well on here. 

[Condominium]

I’ve been punting over 30 years and have never been treated by any WG like that.

Maybe she’d had a bad day, but my point about the 5 previous positives is that her behaviour was seemingly quite out of character. That, for me at least, raised questions as to how the OP handled the situation. His two comments questioning her laughing and then taking the piss with his slow departure AFTER securing his full refund, doesn’t sit well with me and shouldn’t with you either.

This forum should seek to promote good behaviour on all sides. I accept its the first time the OP had requested a refund, but having got it he could have been more gracious.

And politics doesn’t come into it, neither is there any conflict between paying to fuck a WG and treating her with respect.

The white knight suggestion is just pure nonsense.

[Cunning Punt]

I’ve been punting over 30 years and have never been treated by any WG like that.

Maybe she’d had a bad day, but my point about the 5 previous positives is that her behaviour was seemingly quite out of character. That, for me at least, raised questions as to how the OP handled the situation. His two comments questioning her laughing and then taking the piss with his slow departure AFTER securing his full refund, doesn’t sit well with me and shouldn’t with you either.

This forum should seek to promote good behaviour on all sides. I accept its the first time the OP had requested a refund, but having got it he could have been more gracious.

And politics doesn’t come into it, neither is there any conflict between paying to fuck a WG and treating her with respect.

The white knight suggestion is just pure nonsense.

You keep banging on about my passing comment about her laughing - you haven't read my review or subsequent comment properly. It was a passing comment and was just one element of her rather odd behaviour. It didn't bother me.

Previous reviews about this WG are irrelevant. As has been said, this is the first time in over 100 reviewed punts (and at least the same number of unreviewed punts) that I've asked for my money back - does that perhaps not say something about this WG's attitude on the day?

At the end of the day, you weren't there and are second guessing. You're posting on a punters' forum and taking the side of a WG and taking issue with a punter's review - and getting it wrong. So the claim of WK is fair.

Her profile promised much but her service and attitude were poor and it was a waste of my time going so yes so what if I asked for a refund and took up a couple more minutes of her time. It is only by calling lacklustre WGs to account that their behaviour changes, which is to the benefit of all punters. And that is the point you spectacularly miss.

Anyway, I think my review, my comments and others' comments speak for themselves and have answered all the points very clearly and conclusively.

[daviemac]

I’ve been punting over 30 years and have never been treated by any WG like that.

Maybe she’d had a bad day, but my point about the 5 previous positives is that her behaviour was seemingly quite out of character. That, for me at least, raised questions as to how the OP handled the situation. His two comments questioning her laughing and then taking the piss with his slow departure AFTER securing his full refund, doesn’t sit well with me and shouldn’t with you either.

This forum should seek to promote good behaviour on all sides. I accept its the first time the OP had requested a refund, but having got it he could have been more gracious.

And politics doesn’t come into it, neither is there any conflict between paying to fuck a WG and treating her with respect.

The white knight suggestion is just pure nonsense.

This forum puts the interests of punters first yet you are continually white knighting this escort. Her past reviews mean nothing, (your '30 years of punting' means even less) all 5 could well be very easily pleased for all you know.

This review is about the experience the OP had during his booking at the time he was there, you were not there so you are in no position to comment. You are not the only white knight on this thread but you are the only one pushing the point. Oh and if they are 'having a bad day' they shouldn't be working, with the price they charge punters are entitled to receive a decent service.

BTW I have caught out and banned more dodgy punters than I think you realise so don't tell me what should or shouldn't sit well with me.

[fastcar669]

I also think it’s possible to laugh in languages other than English.

Indeed, laughter is truly, the one universal language.

Well apart from crtying and screaming in agony I suppose 

[nohey1]

I’ve been punting over 30 years and have never been treated by any WG like that.

Maybe she’d had a bad day, but my point about the 5 previous positives is that her behaviour was seemingly quite out of character. That, for me at least, raised questions as to how the OP handled the situation. His two comments questioning her laughing and then taking the piss with his slow departure AFTER securing his full refund, doesn’t sit well with me and shouldn’t with you either.

This forum should seek to promote good behaviour on all sides. I accept its the first time the OP had requested a refund, but having got it he could have been more gracious.

And politics doesn’t come into it, neither is there any conflict between paying to fuck a WG and treating her with respect.

The white knight suggestion is just pure nonsense.

There is when you attribute it to all that patriarchal bollocks. You're a bloke who pays women to shag him "for over 30 years". You don't think that's pretty 'misogynistic' by your own terms? Quit being a condescending hypocrite, it's weird. 

[Condominium]

Hey nohey1. The definition of a misogynist is someone who dislikes, despises or is strongly prejudiced against women. I happen to like women a lot including most of the WGs I meet.

Your punting review record of 7/8 ‘avoid or wouldn’t see again’, suggests perhaps you need to take a closer look at yourself.

Just saying. 

[contentguy]

Hey nohey1. The definition of a misogynist is someone who dislikes, despises or is strongly prejudiced against women. I happen to like women a lot including most of the WGs I meet.

Your punting review record of 7/8 ‘avoid or wouldn’t see again’, suggests perhaps you need to take a closer look at yourself.

Just saying.

I think your horse needs watering Sir Galahad 

And you’re critiquing his reviews (again you weren’t there), 8 in total, 3 positive and 1 neutral.
I don’t understand what you’re trying to infer 

[The_Don]

Well done for standing ground and asking for a refund, then walking on her 

[nohey1]

Hey nohey1. The definition of a misogynist is someone who dislikes, despises or is strongly prejudiced against women. I happen to like women a lot including most of the WGs I meet.

Your punting review record of 7/8 ‘avoid or wouldn’t see again’, suggests perhaps you need to take a closer look at yourself.

Just saying.

What are you talking about, you strange individual? Because I've had bad experiences, I too must be a part of some patriarchal system? You honestly can't have missed that during your 30 years as a punter that some of those women, carefully speaking, wasn't there of their own volition, right? Get a grip, calm down, or piss off, mate. It's not like the vast majority of people here arn't calling you wrong.

[DevilTimed]

So what's your point, that I wasn't polite, wasn't presentable and was a cunt? I was clean and polite. When she clearly couldn't be bothered to provide any sort of service then I was firm but polite, and not polite after her histrionics.

My response wasn't directed at you, hence the quote response about "she probably doesn't provide" stuff. Good luck with your next punt.

[PilotMan]

My analogy.

You phone a garage and ask them if they will service your car. They advertise their prices online and state everything they provide within that service. Extra charges are listed. So you make a booking and re-confirm what you’ll get.

You arrive and park in their car park, pay the service fee and wait in their reception. While you’re there you enjoy a cup of complimentary cup of coffee and watch their TV.

The receptionist returns after a few minutes and tells you that they’re not going to do all of the work they advertise, so naturally you ask for a refund. You get it in full, simple.

The garage broke the transaction, not you, so why should you not expect a full refund; because you drank a cup of their coffee, or used their car park, watched their TV?

Good on you for asking for and getting a full refund. Hopefully her bookings will suffer and she’ll improve her behaviour.

I’ve done it once myself. After showering the SP told me that certain services would be unavailable due to her being on her period. I told her I am leaving and expected a full refund. She insisted on keeping £20 because I had used her shower. I told her that if she was honest and told me when I made the booking or even BEFORE I showered, we would have both saved wasting our time. Full refund received.