Management of Thai tourers

[joulesbourne]

Just wondering, purely out of interest, and forgive me if a similar thread exists (please point me in the right direction if so) But does it fascinate anyone else how Thai touring girls are managed in UK. Who is it that decides on their next location and flat/ house when they travel from city to city around the UK. Also when they decide to get into sex work, does someone pay for their flight to UK or do they cover that?

When they travel to their next city do they do that alone or does someone drive them there. When do they hand over their cash earned and who to?

Sorry lots of questions! I’ve been punting a little while and the whole operation just really interests me   

[alabama1]

Maybe you need to visit Thai girls who have 'FAQ.s' on their likes list.

[sim0256]

Ala I don't get the purpose of your reply But I too wonder how these girls organise their tours.
Living in the sticks as regards punting ( in regard to population etc.) I think  of all the more lucrative places the girls ( not just Thai's but others like Brazilian / 
Columbian etc.  ) must have passed to get to my neck of the wood and feel that it is worthwhile. While some might be Uni students in town for a while others appear to be full time WG's. These must be 'handled' by someone who knows their way about the cities and the ways of rental, advertising and living in the various parts of the UK and in other parts of Europe too. An insight into this would be a good read.  In the meantime I am very glad that they do find find their way here!

[Bonker]

I've never thought about it. Now that you bring it up, I know why.

[Pennine Rover]

Given the girls rarely speak good English, I assume there is a network of pimps who organise it. The girls seem to be in the same houses/flats and stay for a week or so before moving on.  Just the same as the Roms.

[Adoniron]

Chinese massage shops are the same; the girls seem to change every week, or two at the most. There must be some sort of network arranging it all.

[Lou2019]

Just wondering, purely out of interest, and forgive me if a similar thread exists (please point me in the right direction if so) But does it fascinate anyone else how Thai touring girls are managed in UK. Who is it that decides on their next location and flat/ house when they travel from city to city around the UK. Also when they decide to get into sex work, does someone pay for their flight to UK or do they cover that?

When they travel to their next city do they do that alone or does someone drive them there. When do they hand over their cash earned and who to?

Sorry lots of questions! I’ve been punting a little while and the whole operation just really interests me   

The pimp/s

[bristolnick]

You looking for extra work? It's all cash in hand tho and you will need to in advance for the rooms.

[myothernameis]

how Thai touring girls are managed in UK. Who is it that decides on their next location and flat/ house when they travel from city to city around the UK.

Future pimp in the making 

[Tun210]

This is what I know, not claiming to be facts but my knowledge post various SW's

Who is it that decides on their next location and flat/ house when they travel from city to city around the UK- It is a big network and most of the pimps know each other, exchange girls depending on their requirement, rent places to work from each other if they need one,
Asian pimps (Chinese, Thai etc) work in collaboration with each other meaning they have their set locations they work from and do not step into each other shoes as they are all part of a big organised syndicates.
Also when they decide to get into sex work, does someone pay for their flight to UK or do they cover that?- most of the Chinese, Thai get paid upfront in their countries for 3/6/12 months work and they just work and do not get paid, only they get money for food, wipes and other necessities.
Some girls come over, visa ticket all arranged by the syndicate but do not get paid upfront but work on a commission which is usually 60/40% 40 for the girl, they cannot quit unless all the expenses paid in both the cases.
They get driven around by the pimps and many times they dont know where they will be next.

Hope that's helpful.

[daviemac]

This is what I know, not claiming to be facts but my knowledge post various SW's

Who is it that decides on their next location and flat/ house when they travel from city to city around the UK- It is a big network and most of the pimps know each other, exchange girls depending on their requirement, rent places to work from each other if they need one,
Asian pimps (Chinese, Thai etc) work in collaboration with each other meaning they have their set locations they work from and do not step into each other shoes as they are all part of a big organised syndicates.
Also when they decide to get into sex work, does someone pay for their flight to UK or do they cover that?- most of the Chinese, Thai get paid upfront in their countries for 3/6/12 months work and they just work and do not get paid, only they get money for food, wipes and other necessities.
Some girls come over, visa ticket all arranged by the syndicate but do not get paid upfront but work on a commission which is usually 60/40% 40 for the girl, they cannot quit unless all the expenses paid in both the cases.
They get driven around by the pimps and many times they dont know where they will be next.

Hope that's helpful.

That is a very detailed description, can you provide the evidence to substantiate these claims.   

[Lou2019]

You looking for extra work? It's all cash in hand tho and you will need to in advance for the rooms.

I did wonder ???

[Lou2019]

Future pimp in the making 

See my above comment, it’s a bit of an odd post

[Lou2019]

That is a very detailed description, can you provide the evidence to substantiate these claims. 

Probably one of the pimps davie

[Pillowtalk]

That is a very detailed description, can you provide the evidence to substantiate these claims. 

I heard a slightly different story chatting to a friendly woman working in a Thai massage place I visited. She told me she was a member of a WhattsApp group along with about 500 other Thai women and this was the main place to source work. she said she travelled by train to all sorts of places for a couple of days work here and there. She had a regular one day a week at the place I saw her and was looking to add a few more regular days at other places. In the meantime she was picking up work where she could.

[daviemac]

Probably one of the pimps davie

He knows enough about it to be one.

[willie loman]

why are some people so keen on throwing the pimp word around , its a negative and pejorative word, the truth is sex work like catering work, and agricultural work requires middle men with a bit of knowledge to facilitate life for the girls, no doubt their cut is steep,but am satisfied that up here in scotland the police are fairly vigilant about the sex trade, as far as coercion and trafficking go, i have zero interest in tourers, and wouldnt visit a thai , romanian or brasilian on tour, if it was free, but there are clearly enough customers for them to make it worthwhile.

[tynetunnel]

the truth is sex work like catering work, and agricultural work requires middle men with a bit of knowledge to facilitate life for the girls

I have you on ignore, for good reason Willie, but today I couldn’t resist pressing the little button to reveal whatever tripe you’ve posted. You didn’t disappoint either! Your outdated views on women are quite something. I expect they also need men to change a lightbulb, mow the lawn or brandish a pair of pliers…

[Tun210]

That is a very detailed description, can you provide the evidence to substantiate these claims. 

Sorry no evidence, just gathered in my 30 yrs of punting.

[Tun210]

He knows enough about it to be one.

I wish I was, at least that way I wouldn't have to pay these exorbitant current rates   

[Lou2019]

He knows enough about it to be one.

What a dick 

[daviemac]

Sorry no evidence, just gathered in my 30 yrs of punting.

So it's unfounded opinion that you are posting as fact.   

There's one thing for sure in this game and that is you can't generalise on anything.

I have no doubt that some Asians are trafficked into the country and coerced into sex work but I'm equally sure some will be here of their own free will and operate in a manner indicated by Pillowtalk.

Out of curiosity in your 30 years of punting, if you are so sure of your facts, how many instances of trafficking or modern day slavery have you reported to the authorities.

As an aside the police in the NE keep a very close eye on Asian massage parlours and there have been several raids to check for anything untoward.

Forgot to add, as you should know we have a rule regarding instances of trafficking etc.

26 Allegations of underaged /trafficked/forced sex workers
Contact law enforcement.

[MissWolf]

I wish I was, at least that way I wouldn't have to pay these exorbitant current rates   

See thats just a bloody weird and totally wrong comment

That reads as you would actually happily control prostitution for financial gain and free fucks and the connotations of that are ick at the very least.


I get you are probably trying to be funny but you missed by several miles.

[myothernameis]

Sorry no evidence, just gathered in my 30 yrs of punting.

So if no evidence of this, your post, evidence must be collated from somewhere, to allow this assumption

[mr.bluesky]

I have you on ignore, for good reason Willie, but today I couldn’t resist pressing the little button to reveal whatever tripe you’ve posted. You didn’t disappoint either! Your outdated views on women are quite something. I expect they also need men to change a lightbulb, mow the lawn or brandish a pair of pliers…

Your absolutely right, why would anyone in their right mind get so uptight about describing someone as a pimp.  I can understand now why you have him on ignore .

[Tun210]

See thats just a bloody weird and totally wrong comment

That reads as you would actually happily control prostitution for financial gain and free fucks and the connotations of that are ick at the very least.


I get you are probably trying to be funny but you missed by several miles.

It was a joke, chill.

[Tun210]

So it's unfounded opinion that you are posting as fact.   

There's one thing for sure in this game and that is you can't generalise on anything.

I have no doubt that some Asians are trafficked into the country and coerced into sex work but I'm equally sure some will be here of their own free will and operate in a manner indicated by Pillowtalk.

Out of curiosity in your 30 years of punting, if you are so sure of your facts, how many instances of trafficking or modern day slavery have you reported to the authorities.

As an aside the police in the NE keep a very close eye on Asian massage parlours and there have been several raids to check for anything untoward.

Forgot to add, as you should know we have a rule regarding instances of trafficking etc.

26 Allegations of underaged /trafficked/forced sex workers
Contact law enforcement.

Sorry I said not a fact but my opinion gathered in 30 yrs of punting.
No I did not report any as most of my punting has not been in this country and laws are not the same, some countries even police are involved.

Thanks for pointing the rules, will keep in mind.

[willie loman]

I have you on ignore, for good reason Willie, but today I couldn’t resist pressing the little button to reveal whatever tripe you’ve posted. You didn’t disappoint either! Your outdated views on women are quite something. I expect they also need men to change a lightbulb, mow the lawn or brandish a pair of pliers…

that is the fourth time you have told the forum you have me on ignore,

[daviemac]

Sorry I said not a fact but my opinion gathered in 30 yrs of punting.
No I did not report any as most of my punting has not been in this country and laws are not the same, some countries even police are involved.

Thanks for pointing the rules, will keep in mind.

So you have gathered your information about what goes on in the UK from SPs who do not live or work here.   

[northface]

What a dick 

Why is he a dick Lou?
He answered a question from a fellow punter with his perspective and you start calling him a dick.

You are not are not contributing to this thread with anything of use and are just trying to stir the shit as you do.
When punters are trying to help each other out just go back to cleaning your phone.

[northface]

Probably one of the pimps davie

Now you are calling a fellow punter a probable pimp.
What facts do you have to substantiate these claims.

If someone has some knowledge of how an engine works for example it does not make them a mechanic.

You really need to take your comments  elsewhere as yet again you are having a go at a punter who has done nothing to you.

Dont forget to give you nose a clean when you take it out of DM's arse.

[daviemac]

Why is he a dick Lou?
He answered a question from a fellow punter with his perspective and you start calling him a dick.

You are not are not contributing to this thread with anything of use and are just trying to stir the shit as you do.
When punters are trying to help each other out just go back to cleaning your phone.

Now you are calling a fellow punter a probable pimp.
What facts do you have to substantiate these claims.

If someone has some knowledge of how an engine works for example it does not make them a mechanic.

You really need to take your comments  elsewhere as yet again you are having a go at a punter who has done nothing to you.

Dont forget to give you nose a clean when you take it out of DM's arse.

He has given a detailed description of how pimping and trafficking works in the UK, including how and if they get paid, but he is basing his knowledge on information gathered abroad, that raises my suspicions. Those based in other countries who are involved in trafficking girls to the UK will know exactly what goes on when they get here.

[Lou2019]

 just go back to cleaning your phone.

Not that old chestnut 

[Lou2019]

Dont forget to give you nose a clean when you take it out of DM's arse.

You are on fire with the insults today 

[Bru1901]

This is what I know, not claiming to be facts but my knowledge post various SW's

Who is it that decides on their next location and flat/ house when they travel from city to city around the UK- It is a big network and most of the pimps know each other, exchange girls depending on their requirement, rent places to work from each other if they need one,
Asian pimps (Chinese, Thai etc) work in collaboration with each other meaning they have their set locations they work from and do not step into each other shoes as they are all part of a big organised syndicates.
Also when they decide to get into sex work, does someone pay for their flight to UK or do they cover that?- most of the Chinese, Thai get paid upfront in their countries for 3/6/12 months work and they just work and do not get paid, only they get money for food, wipes and other necessities.
Some girls come over, visa ticket all arranged by the syndicate but do not get paid upfront but work on a commission which is usually 60/40% 40 for the girl, they cannot quit unless all the expenses paid in both the cases.
They get driven around by the pimps and many times they dont know where they will be next.

Hope that's helpful.

This is true.

Spoke to a masseuse in italy once as one of my friends was thai. Basically to get a visa etc you need connections and they secure it.

They pay as they go till debt is paid off and can leave after.

If they take 4000 they literally owe 40000.

After its paid they are free.

Most are told of this before they arrive and they are known for it.

If its happening like this in italy its fair to say it happens worldwide.

There isnt anyone sitting outside the establishments mob like but if they do a runner then their families take the debt in home country.

They know that only way to get debt is to work as escort or masseuse. Theh willingly do it to get a better life

[daviemac]

This is true.

Spoke to a masseuse in italy once as one of my friends was thai. Basically to get a visa etc you need connections and they secure it.

They pay as they go till debt is paid off and can leave after.

If they take 4000 they literally owe 40000.

After its paid they are free.

Most are told of this before they arrive and they are known for it.

If its happening like this in italy its fair to say it happens worldwide.

There isnt anyone sitting outside the establishments mob like but if they do a runner then their families take the debt in home country.

They know that only way to get debt is to work as escort or masseuse. Theh willingly do it to get a better life

You are another one who seems to know an awful lot about this? I'm not sure how you can claim this to be fact based on a conversation with one masseuse in Italy.

All looks very dodgy to me.

[tynetunnel]

that is the fourth time you have told the forum you have me on ignore,

Fourth? Have you been counting properly ?

[scutty brown]

Fourth? Have you been counting properly ?

He can't, he's got you on ignore......

[Tun210]

Now you are calling a fellow punter a probable pimp.
What facts do you have to substantiate these claims.

If someone has some knowledge of how an engine works for example it does not make them a mechanic.

You really need to take your comments  elsewhere as yet again you are having a go at a punter who has done nothing to you.

Dont forget to give you nose a clean when you take it out of DM's arse.

Thanks, good to see someone has common sense in here.

[daviemac]

Thanks, good to see someone has common sense in here.

I have said you know enough about the in's and out's of how pimps operate in this country from information you have gathered aboard to be one, I have seen far too many of them on here.

The way you are very assertive in your descriptions of how they get moved around and how they all work together makes me suspect you know more about it than you are letting on.

[Jonestown]

I thought Scutty Brown was our resident expert on the issue of gangs, pimps & travelling girls, why isn’t he all over this thread one wonders.

[willie loman]

I thought Scutty Brown was our resident expert on the issue of gangs, pimps & travelling girls, why isn’t he all over this thread one wonders.

he was busy in sudan.

[versace]

Maybe you need to visit Thai girls who have 'FAQ.s' on their likes list.

 

[scutty brown]

I thought Scutty Brown was our resident expert on the issue of gangs, pimps & travelling girls, why isn’t he all over this thread one wonders.

1) It's all been said before
2) With ridiculous assertions of pimping flying around, I have no interest in saying what I know or think.
If people want a debate on the subject, get rid of the accusations first

[val33]

The last Chinese girl I saw in a massage parlour was separated from her British partner, and had 6 months of her family visa remaining before she'd have to go home, as the partner wouldn't sponsor her to remain in the UK. She thought "why not make as much money as I can?" before returning home to a poorer life. She was "freelance" and decided upon which days to work and where.

[mr.bluesky]

I can say with all honesty this is not a subject that keeps me awake at night 

[akauya]

The one thing I find strange is some punters' obsession about sex workers' lives/'management'/income/tax/etc. beyond of what should be just a simple transaction of seeking and paying for a service then leaving them to do with their lives/business as they please.

IMHO, apart from the obvious issue of trafficked women which should be reported to the authorities, how sex workers manage their business is none of our business. No other service providers get this kind of scrutiny, e.g. plumbers, accountants, lawyers, etc.

I think there is some truth in the saying that men are ruled by their dicks; we can't think properly when our dicks are involved in any transaction 

[Gameboy121]

It's interesting. Knowing how it all works. As a punter we are the source of money...and for myself, while happy to be the ahem 'end user' who likes to fuck women who charge, on rare occasions able to do so, I'm curious about the busniess practicalities underpinning (some Chinese girls use imported condoms for example, freighted in?). That sort of thing. Hoping the girls are getting something more than a new telly from it all.

How do they get the 10s of thousands out of the UK...I'm not asking here but curious. posted home?   Up the arse in a tube? Money transfer...etc..

Fascinating

[myothernameis]

How do they get the 10s of thousands out of the UK...I'm not asking here but curious. posted home?   

Have you ever watch the airport and customs tv programs, and from here you see how the money is smuggled out.   Its so straight forward, they just keep the money in the suitcases, and money over £10,000.   But one thing they have to get by, are the sniffer dogs, who are trained on the scent of money, so the sniff for money, or even drugs, and find the money.

Much to the surprise of the passenger who still try's to hide his £10,000

[Watts.E.Dunn]

Have you ever watch the airport and customs tv programs, and from here you see how the money is smuggled out.   Its so straight forward, they just keep the money in the suitcases, and money over £10,000.   But one thing they have to get by, are the sniffer dogs, who are trained on the scent of money, so the sniff for money, or even drugs, and find the money.

Much to the surprise of the passenger who still try's to hide his £10,000

Sniffer doggies for money?, gotta be bitches like there human counterparts;!...