Author Topic: Another Birmingham mail ukp attack  (Read 2955 times)

Offline Jayne_cobb

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Feel sorry for the woman but can’t see how what happened to her is ukp’s fault. Seems to be squarely on the unstable boyfriend.

Article says she’s getting lawyers to try to close this site down.

Offline Colston36

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Feel sorry for the woman but can’t see how what happened to her is ukp’s fault. Seems to be squarely on the unstable boyfriend.

Article says she’s getting lawyers to try to close this site down.

It makes claims that are untrue

Offline bj_bob

See articles like this scare me because she’s trying to make this point that NONE of this that happened was her own fault and especially the hatchet job the mail did last time they seem to be out for blood…… :angry:

Offline Jayne_cobb

It’s difficult without knowing what was written on here about her, but we can assume she advertises on aw, her boyfriend knew she was an escort, searched for reviews about her on here and got into a jealous rage reading about her exploits. Then tragedy ensued. Can’t see how any of that is our fault?
If she’s engaged lawyers they will milk her dry for no end result.

Offline bj_bob

They’ll try and paint her like this delicate wallflower. Don’t get me wrong, ANY violence against Women is bad but I really can’t see how we can be blamed. I mean, if someone gets pissed and goes drives their car around a lamppost, is it the Pubs fault?  :unknown:

Offline RandomGuy99

A nasty case but it sounds like her partner hadn't really accepted that she was working as an escort. He must have signed up on here and was reading reviews of her bookings.  It can't be an easy thing to be reading if you're in a relationship with someone.  The reviews triggered him. He may still be on here and be reading this.

The article is right in that there probably are some dangerous people on here who do blackmail escorts threatening to give them bad reviews if they don't do x. However, I think the mods do a good job of trying to spot them and ban them, but there are limits to what they can do.
« Last Edit: March 27, 2023, 09:50:09 am by RandomGuy99 »

Offline JontyR

Normally any story like this would have a statement which would either provide the opportunity for a rebuttal, or say that an approach was made for a comment, or that there was a refusal or declination to comment.

The fact there isn't is pretty poor.

Poor girl though. No one should have to encounter this kind of attack.

Offline RandomGuy99

Normally any story like this would have a statement which would either provide the opportunity for a rebuttal, or say that an approach was made for a comment, or that there was a refusal or declination to comment.

The fact there isn't is pretty poor.

Poor girl though. No one should have to encounter this kind of attack.
Yes, there is never an excuse for violence. If it bothered her partner that much then he should have left.

Offline theaccountant

I'm sorry to hear the SP when through something horrible such as getting stabbed int he throat and strangled by her BF.

In terms of putting Sex Workers at risk. There was a good point made on one of the threads recently about SPs who don't properly blur their photos in a way them getting outed. https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=371307.0

There is an inherent risk in working in the sex industry. But the fact that her then-partner knew about her work as an SP, then not being able to handle the reviews written about her leading to the altercation is a terrible situation to be in. But UKP can't be blamed for this.

I agree, her getting lawyers involved to shut down UKP is going to be a stupid move from her side as the Lawyers are just going to milk her for a fruitless fight. It just sounds like she wants to continue working as an escort but not have anyone talk about her.

The dangerous people on here to get caught out and as mentioned. The mods are doing a better job of getting rid of them.

Offline myothernameis

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He attacked me after reading a UKPunting review outing me." Her then partner, she says, knew she was working in the sex industry and "sort of accepted it", but "when he read the review, he went berserk", she claims. "With me, my ex recognised me and my body and everything

So she wasnt named in person, but the boy friend knows what she does.  Now the boyfriend read the review, and goes nuts, so is the boy friend a member of UKp, and does he punt

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She has now appointed lawyers in a bid to shut down the website UKPunting, which, she says, "puts sex workers at risk

If the escort wants UKp closed down, then in real terms, the court would have to close other sites, of a similar nature

Offline theaccountant

At least, this time Birmingham Mail has done a better job of concealing the SP’s identity than the last time they has a go at UKP

Offline JontyR

So she wasnt named in person, but the boy friend knows what she does.  Now the boyfriend read the review, and goes nuts, so is the boy friend a member of UKp, and does he punt

Well without going all Sherlock, it could be that someone who knows the nutter says she is a hooker. This may be done out of freindship or malice. You've seen the reactions of some folks on here towards the thoughts of dating an SP. A fragile ego and a potentially violent nature are an explosive combination. A perceived "humiliation" can be the spark.

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If the escort wants UKp closed down, then in real terms, the court would have to close other sites, of a similar nature
Think that a lawyer will advise that a direct closure wouldn't be possible. But seeking a pay out on a no win no fee... Anyhoo, I don;t see how discussing these ramifications in public serves any practical positive purpose for the users of the site. Its for the owners and mods to deal with out of sight. 

Offline Jayne_cobb

Normally any story like this would have a statement which would either provide the opportunity for a rebuttal, or say that an approach was made for a comment, or that there was a refusal or declination to comment.

The fact there isn't is pretty poor.

Poor girl though. No one should have to encounter this kind of attack.

You’re thinking about proper journalism. Which as Birmingham mail is owned by the mirror is never going to happen.
Just need to look at the sports coverage to see what speculative garbage they print.

Online Man of steel

In my opinion, UKP is not at fault. The woman make allegations about her boyfriend reading escort reviews - this could be any site I.e adultwork, escort sites (i.e Lush), or other punter sites. Feel sorry for the woman for choosing a boyfriend who punts and is happy for his girlfriend/partner to be punted and gets a thrill from reading their exploits.

Women who decide they want to be a prostitute and sell sex services will have feedback on their appearance (if accurate) and if they deliver well or not (job performance appraisal). If appearance (face/size  description) not accurate and they want to give poor service and take money for no effort - they should be taken to court by the hirer of her services or have a warning of poor performance. Most OP warn other potential buyers and usually give an honest opinion on what you will hire for a designated time and guidance on value for money.

Best way for woman not to have reviews - do not be a prostitute or an escort. The sex worker can also clearly state her preference for the type of buyer she wants and how he should conduct himself during and after the punt (however less income if rules are very stringent)..
« Last Edit: March 27, 2023, 12:40:49 pm by Man of steel »

Offline Rangers54

If they close this, then the prossie site that reviews punters that no doubt she will be on should be closed down as well. Or are they allowed to review punters with impunity and say what they please.

This doesn't really have anything to do with ukp site. This is solely on this violent creatures shoulders. He is clearly unstable and he needs locking up for a long time. The what aboutary is Birmingham mails way of trying to.look Puritans.

Offline Brumish

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Having trying to read this piss poor article with all the damn ads, it's quite clear that the journalist didnt have their priorities right. No mention of what sentence, if any, has been meeted out to this cretinous scumbag of a boyfriend. Nor anything to highlight how he is the one and only perpetrator in this sorry saga. As a society how are deterrents supposed to work if journalists like this can get away from highlighting the actual harmful deeds done. :thumbsdown:
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Offline RandomGuy99

I believe you'll find that the journalist is on here somewhere

Offline chadpitt

This is ridiculous.

I'm guessing she probably advertised publically so how is UK Punting to blame.

Why don't you blame google maps as well while your at it.

Offline RandomGuy99

The person that is really to blame for it is her partner.

Offline m4rmite

It's a bit ironic that her partner assaulted her when he found out she was an ex? sex worker?
What was he doing on UKP? Hypocrite much? :dash:

Offline Atrueyorkie

Sounds like he’s a dumbass and unstable guy. What did he think she was doing when she told him she did sex work? Blow out candles?

Weird unstable guy coupled with a person with no brain cells who is using money in the wrong places when she be using all those funds against her violent partner. Stupid

Offline chatbite

Just a thought but wouldn't it be great if we could make it a rule to copy the text from the article in threads like this? Not knocking the OP as they're just trying to share relevant info but just sharing a link has the knock-on effect of driving extra click revenue to that shit-rag newspaper

Offline Jayne_cobb

Just a thought but wouldn't it be great if we could make it a rule to copy the text from the article in threads like this? Not knocking the OP as they're just trying to share relevant info but just sharing a link has the knock-on effect of driving extra click revenue to that shit-rag newspaper
You make an excellent point - however I saw the news article on my phone, and shared it here on my phone. It would be massive ball ache to copy the text from the article here using my phone. Much easier on my laptop but then if I had to fire that up to do it I wouldn’t have shared it.

I’m only ever on this site on a laptop to write reviews. 99% of my time it’s on my phone.

I take your point that we don’t want to be driving traffic to these rags

Offline JontyR

You make an excellent point - however I saw the news article on my phone, and shared it here on my phone. It would be massive ball ache to copy the text from the article here using my phone. Much easier on my laptop but then if I had to fire that up to do it I wouldn’t have shared it.

I’m only ever on this site on a laptop to write reviews. 99% of my time it’s on my phone.

I take your point that we don’t want to be driving traffic to these rags
It doesn't have to be the responsibility of the original poster though. Anyone can copy and paste, just like folks just jump in with links to SPs when folks forget.