She lied that she was a rape victim.

[puntingking]

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Shocking story. She even abused herself to make her false story more real to others.


"The prosecution said Williams inflicted the injuries on herself with a hammer, which was found close by and had her blood on."

[jackdaw]

Given the extent of the self inflicted injuries, I’m surprised she was not regarded as insane …and given medical treatment rather than jail.

[Squire Haggard]

Unfortunately, there are arseholes about who shoot first and ask questions later. They probably read about his arrest in the ''newspapers'' and assumed guilt. The skank deserves to suffer.  The story of one of her victims........

''Weeks passed and one day Trengove was asleep in bed when police arrived to arrest him on suspicion of raping, drugging and assaulting Williams. He protested his innocence and cooperated with police, handing over his phone and submitting to an intimate body check so that officers could look for signs of the violent struggle Williams had described. “There was no bruising, no markings,” says Trengove now. But the damage was done. The next day someone painted the word “rapist” on his house and smashed in the windows.''

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[jackdaw]

Unfortunately, there are arseholes about who shoot first and ask questions later. They probably read about his arrest in the ''newspapers'' and assumed guilt. The skank deserves to suffer.  The story of one of her victims........

''Weeks passed and one day Trengove was asleep in bed when police arrived to arrest him on suspicion of raping, drugging and assaulting Williams. He protested his innocence and cooperated with police, handing over his phone and submitting to an intimate body check so that officers could look for signs of the violent struggle Williams had described. “There was no bruising, no markings,” says Trengove now. But the damage was done. The next day someone painted the word “rapist” on his house and smashed in the windows.''

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Maybe the police could learn something from this episode? Clearly the guy had to be rigorously questioned given the seriousness of the accusations…but they could (and should) have taken pains to make arrest far more low key.

And it really shouldn’t have been difficult to quickly establish the womans story did not hold water.

The consequences of what the woman did were terrible…but I do think its reasonably likely she was/is clinically insane, and requires medical treatment. (I do realise that bar for insanity in legal cases is far higher than that used in other contexts, so not really surprising that she was regarded as sane enough to stand trial.)

[Squire Haggard]

Maybe the police could learn something from this episode? Clearly the guy had to be rigorously questioned given the seriousness of the accusations…but they could (and should) have taken pains to make arrest far more low key.

I think that its routine for the police to make it public when a person is charged with a crime. AFAIK a person can only be named in the press in France once they are found guilty. I've done a search just now but cant find anything about it. Its curry and beer tonight so I must press on with that.  I remember Nick Clegg wanting this to be the law in the UK. The scum press would hate it.
I do hate the scum tabloids and ''local papers'' who will have made the most of his arrest, maybe on the front page, knowing that he will be a likely target before being found guilty.

[puntingking]

Unfortunately, there are arseholes about who shoot first and ask questions later. They probably read about his arrest in the ''newspapers'' and assumed guilt. The skank deserves to suffer.  The story of one of her victims........

''Weeks passed and one day Trengove was asleep in bed when police arrived to arrest him on suspicion of raping, drugging and assaulting Williams. He protested his innocence and cooperated with police, handing over his phone and submitting to an intimate body check so that officers could look for signs of the violent struggle Williams had described. “There was no bruising, no markings,” says Trengove now. But the damage was done. The next day someone painted the word “rapist” on his house and smashed in the windows.''

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Isn't it funny that the woman who lied we only knew of her identity when she was found guilty.  Which is the right way ofcourse but the same rule did not apply to the innocent men.
Nobody other than the people involved should of known about what the men was alleged to have done.  This has got to be reverse sexism.

Also I say punish the person who vandalised this man home with the stricted punishment required by law for vandalism. 

[puntingking]

Maybe the police could learn something from this episode? Clearly the guy had to be rigorously questioned given the seriousness of the accusations…but they could (and should) have taken pains to make arrest far more low key.

And it really shouldn’t have been difficult to quickly establish the womans story did not hold water.

The consequences of what the woman did were terrible…but I do think its reasonably likely she was/is clinically insane, and requires medical treatment. (I do realise that bar for insanity in legal cases is far higher than that used in other contexts, so not really surprising that she was regarded as sane enough to stand trial.)

One could argue that anyone who commits act of evil are insane and require medical treatment.

But I am not going to argue over that as a crime is a crime and you should not be let off with a mental Health pass or a medical treatment pass.
Keep the law simple I say.

[jackdaw]

One could argue that anyone who commits act of evil are insane and require medical treatment.

But I am not going to argue over that as a crime is a crime and you should not be let off with a mental Health pass or a medical treatment pass.
Keep the law simple I say.

But many (most?) acts of evil have a rational reason behind them: they are done for profit, to enact revenge and so on…and it’s reasonably easy to see why a rational (but hard hearted) person can do them.

But here there’s no obvious rational motive…she’d never met the men concerned, and if she’d rationally considered the likely outcome of her actions she could easily foretell she would likely end up doing a long prison sentence. She had nothing to gain…no one at any stage has come up with a rational motive.

Then add the extent of her self harm, and that apparently she still apparently believes that she her accusations were both true and false (i.e. she simultaneously believes 2 incompatible things)…she has many strong signs of madness.

I can understand your sentiment that “she’s profoundly dangerous and should be locked up anyway” as psychiatric treatment might well not cure her. (Hope I haven’t distorted your view.)

[Blackpool Rock]

She accused quite a few men / lads but the police worked out it was BS or at least some of it fairly quickly as the men could prove they were elsewhere at the times she claimed they were abusing her.

I'm sure it was said on the news this morning that 3 of the accused tried committing suicide over the allegations 

[mr.bluesky]

She even gave herself self inflicted wounds to make her story more plausible.  Ruined the lives of her poor victims. One even attempted suicide. Rape is a terrible thing to happen to a woman but to do what she did is unforgivable.

[puntingking]

She accused quite a few men / lads but the police worked out it was BS or at least some of it fairly quickly as the men could prove they were elsewhere at the times she claimed they were abusing her.

I'm sure it was said on the news this morning that 3 of the accused tried committing suicide over the allegations 

I did see that too. Thankfully they did not succeed in killing themselves.  I would presume she would be up for manslaughter charge added to her sentence if one of them did succeed in killing themselves.   

[puntingking]

She even gave herself self inflicted wounds to make her story more plausible.  Ruined the lives of her poor victims. One even attempted suicide. Rape is a terrible thing to happen to a woman but to do what she did is unforgivable.

I agree. Although her sentence was 8 years she will be out just over 4 years.
Our justice system always let criminals out before they completed their sentence.
But I do have to wonder whether a rapist would be sentence to 8 years behind bars 

[puntingking]

But many (most?) acts of evil have a rational reason behind them: they are done for profit, to enact revenge and so on…and it’s reasonably easy to see why a rational (but hard hearted) person can do them.

But here there’s no obvious rational motive…she’d never met the men concerned, and if she’d rationally considered the likely outcome of her actions she could easily foretell she would likely end up doing a long prison sentence. She had nothing to gain…no one at any stage has come up with a rational motive.

Then add the extent of her self harm, and that apparently she still apparently believes that she her accusations were both true and false (i.e. she simultaneously believes 2 incompatible things)…she has many strong signs of madness.

I can understand your sentiment that “she’s profoundly dangerous and should be locked up anyway” as psychiatric treatment might well not cure her. (Hope I haven’t distorted your view.)

Sometimes people who not at a centre of attention from their peers would try to put the spotlight on them, that maybe could be her motive. "I been raped so feel sorry for me" kind of attitude.
 Maybe she lacks self worth and would rather want to be a victim even though she is not a victim.  Its just my speculation.   

[daviemac]

Our justice system always let criminals out before they completed their sentence.

They always serve the full sentence, it's just some of it is them released on licence, during which time they can be recalled to prison if they breach the terms. (As Gary Glitter has been)

[timsussex]

I agree. Although her sentence was 8 years she will be out just over 4 years.
Our justice system always let criminals out before they completed their sentence.
But I do have to wonder whether a rapist would be sentence to 8 years behind bars 

she ruined at least 3 mens lives so 8 years is fair enough considering the way she planned it inc buying the hammer at Tescos

[jackdaw]

Sometimes people who not at a centre of attention from their peers would try to put the spotlight on them, that maybe could be her motive. "I been raped so feel sorry for me" kind of attitude.
 Maybe she lacks self worth and would rather want to be a victim even though she is not a victim.  Its just my speculation.   

Yes…I considered that. And think it’s the most likely motive if she is effectively rational (for a time it worked, that way, of course…people collected money for her, she got a ton of publicity, etc.).

[Blackpool Rock]

Yes…I considered that. And think it’s the most likely motive if she is effectively rational (for a time it worked, that way, of course…people collected money for her, she got a ton of publicity, etc.).

Yes you have to question her mental stability, i'm sure there are multiple different things she could be labelled as and someone will be able to narrow it down to a correct diagnosis but potentially sounds a bit like Munchausen's syndrome 

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[yandex]

she ruined at least 3 mens lives so 8 years is fair enough considering the way she planned it inc buying the hammer at Tescos

And yet you think another woman found guilty of manslaughter doesn't deserve the 'harsh' 3 year sentence she was given.

People can be contradictory, can't they 

It looks like she isn't going to fess up her motives any time soon and presumably the defence team would have hit upon any mitigating circumstances during the trial. I can't help but feel the notoriety/celebrity of social media must have played a big part.

[Doc Holliday]

It looks like she isn't going to fess up her motives any time soon and presumably the defence team would have hit upon any mitigating circumstances during the trial. I can't help but feel the notoriety/celebrity of social media must have played a big part.

Indeed her defence team have said she appears to have had no motivation at all but I agree that once again Social Media has certainly played a big part in driving this.

I think I heard that a sister believes she may have been raped by someone at some point and that could be the trigger?  All speculation.

The other aspect is that the police suspected she was lying at a very early stage, but could not say so until they had fully investigated and therefore unable to halt the escalation on Faceboook etc.

[Jonestown]

I think that its routine for the police to make it public when a person is charged with a crime.

When its rape I have the notion they like to get the accused man's identity out there in the hope that other "victims". may come forward.

[Iceman90]

More pussy privilege and an army of simps behind her attacking this poor innocent lad. Of course some simp crowd funded for her too. Surprised but glad she got an actual prison sentence.

[Strawberry]

I remember the day Tommy Robinson passed through town on the way to the demo, in my household expletives uttered including 'F off'. Even worse long range travel and gatherings were not permitted.  Absolute Hornets nest created. At the time I did not know what the truth would be, I stayed out of it on neither side.

In Rochdale girls were not believed, but we can't throw stones without evidence or proof.


 

[PumpDump]

Isn't it funny that the woman who lied we only knew of her identity when she was found guilty.  Which is the right way ofcourse but the same rule did not apply to the innocent men.
Nobody other than the people involved should of known about what the men was alleged to have done.  This has got to be reverse sexism.

Also I say punish the person who vandalised this man home with the stricted punishment required by law for vandalism.

It is very unfair and something I am forever ranting about. The identity of the accused should be kept anonymous until a successful conviction. Otherwise it is grossly unfair on falsly accused and can destroy the lives of them and their families.

[RandomGuy99]

I think the police always have to side with the victim initially, but the police do have to do low key arrests and try to keep people's names out of the papers until firm evidence is found to substantiate the accusations.

[PumpDump]

When its rape I have the notion they like to get the accused man's identity out there in the hope that other "victims". may come forward.

Yes exactly their modus operandi. And once the police decide you are guilty, they do whatever they can do get you. They don't look for flaws in their own evidence. It is up to you to do that, and you will need a very good defence solicitor.  You certainly won't get this if you are not paying privately, the solicitors supplied by the state are too underpaid to spend a lot of time on defence cases. I am convinced many innocent men are convicted for all types of crimes simply because they can't afford to fight the case and it is easier to admit guilt for a reduction in the sentence.

[Doc Holliday]

Isn't it funny that the woman who lied we only knew of her identity when she was found guilty. Which is the right way ofcourse but the same rule did not apply to the innocent men.
Nobody other than the people involved should of known about what the men was alleged to have done.  This has got to be reverse sexism.
 

Except it isn't correct

The current Police protocol is that anyone arrested should not be named by the Police. There are rare exceptions to this.

The protocol is that anyone of legal age who is charged should be named. Once again there are very rare exceptions to that.

There are also very rare circumstances which prevent the media publishing the name when reporting the court case until the verdict.

In this case she was named when charged although there may have been some reporting restrictions in place given the highly volatile backgrounf to the case. This did not stop the Social Media bandwagon she had created. She even posted the Asian grooming gang accusation weeks after being charged.

[RadioKid]

She should have been locked away for longer.

This wasn't just a nightmare for the Victims but turned the entire community upside down.

[Strawberry]

Except it isn't correct

The current Police protocol is that anyone arrested should not be named by the Police. There are rare exceptions to this.

The protocol is that anyone of legal age who is charged should be named. Once again there are very rare exceptions to that.

There are also very rare circumstances which prevent the media publishing the name when reporting the court case until the verdict.

In this case she was named when charged although there may have been some reporting restrictions in place given the highly volatile backgrounf to the case. This did not stop the Social Media bandwagon she had created. She even posted the Asian grooming gang accusation weeks after being charged.

The case against her wasn't kept secret, local media reported the charges against her months ago. It's been quietly ongoing until the sentencing, then suddenly it's in the national spotlight.

[willie loman]

I think that its routine for the police to make it public when a person is charged with a crime. AFAIK a person can only be named in the press in France once they are found guilty. I've done a search just now but cant find anything about it. Its curry and beer tonight so I must press on with that.  I remember Nick Clegg wanting this to be the law in the UK. The scum press would hate it.
I do hate the scum tabloids and ''local papers'' who will have made the most of his arrest, maybe on the front page, knowing that he will be a likely target before being found guilty.

in france large audiences attend trials, and angry crowds gather at the start of trials, so it seems unlikely that the accused are nt named, i can assure you , there is little about the french justice system to be admired, except the fact that trials are very short, and courts will sit till midnight, and the jurors are assisted by professionals,plus victims are represented by lawyers as well, so some french trials will have a dozen lawyers taking part, but waits of four years for court time are not uncommon.

[Squire Haggard]

in france large audiences attend trials, and angry crowds gather at the start of trials, so it seems unlikely that the accused are nt named, i can assure you , there is little about the french justice system to be admired, except the fact that trials are very short, and courts will sit till midnight, and the jurors are assisted by professionals,plus victims are represented by lawyers as well, so some french trials will have a dozen lawyers taking part, but waits of four years for court time are not uncommon.

As they say in Franglais, it looks like a case of le overmanning

[webpunter]

One of the guys was held on remand
Imagine being in prison with a target on your back 

Police will release charge details when they know that they have an offender well & truly cornered
A dead cert no iffs buts or maybes
They do this to hopefully bring out other people who have been the victims
Particularly when it involves kid stuff
& so they should

The rozzers have a difficult job
I wonder how long it took them to join the dots & realise that it was all made up ?

The three people accused need to get lawyered up
& go for a humungous compo claim
The ambulance chasing laywers will be all over them
Their lives are imeasurably fucked & the chaos in the community WTF

8 years out in 4 
With the three accused trying to commit suicide
& the impact on their families
I doubt if they'll really get over it
How do they get a job, work for themselves or run a business ?
A quick check on social media & they are pretty much fcuked
Hence the compo needed
 
Should have been at least double to discourage anyone even contemplating the same
The cost in wasted police time [when they could be doing other critical things], legal stuff, imprisoning one of them will be vast
She's an A-grade nutter
Bollox to all her upbringing the cause blah blah
Needs to spend a long time inside, not 4 years FFS

[puntingking]

One of the guys was held on remand
Imagine being in prison with a target on your back 

Police will release charge details when they know that they have an offender well & truly cornered
A dead cert no iffs buts or maybes
They do this to hopefully bring out other people who have been the victims
Particularly when it involves kid stuff
& so they should

The rozzers have a difficult job
I wonder how long it took them to join the dots & realise that it was all made up ?

The three people accused need to get lawyered up
& go for a humungous compo claim
The ambulance chasing laywers will be all over them
Their lives are imeasurably fucked & the chaos in the community WTF

8 years out in 4 
With the three accused trying to commit suicide
& the impact on their families
I doubt if they'll really get over it
How do they get a job, work for themselves or run a business ?
A quick check on social media & they are pretty much fcuked
Hence the compo needed
 
Should have been at least double to discourage anyone even contemplating the same
The cost in wasted police time [when they could be doing other critical things], legal stuff, imprisoning one of them will be vast
She's an A-grade nutter
Bollox to all her upbringing the cause blah blah
Needs to spend a long time inside, not 4 years FFS

She probably thought that if they found out she lied then she would of only had a community service order for the fact of wasting police time. How wrong she was. To be fair this does send a clear message to anyone looking to make false accusations.  However this may have a negative impact on actual rape victims who want to report their ordeal to the police,they may think twice about doing so in fear that they would be called a lier. 

I think the feminist would be going crazy that the mainstream media reported on this case for that very reason. 

[jackdaw]

One of the guys was held on remand
Imagine being in prison with a target on your back 

Police will release charge details when they know that they have an offender well & truly cornered

I agree police obviously have a difficult job.

But I think you are bring very generous to them if you believe they only release details when they have a lot of evidence against the potential offender. (I assume that is what you mean by “well and truly cornered”).

Look for example, at the Cliff Richard case…when they first went to question him a pack of press and BBC journalists were already in place to film the event. That could only have happened IF the police had tipped them off in advance.

They was no need for that…he was happy to co-operate. At that point there had been one guys word suggesting Cliff had done something…some one that IF the police had been careful in questioning the Police should have had some doubts about. (Not saying the accuser was an obvious liar…but they were some indicators he might have been, and later it became obvious he was a fantasist.)

That was a “fishing expedition”: “let’s get the accused name out there hoping some more accusers will come forward, and that some will be credible”. I believe they have used the same tactic in other cases.

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@JD, good point re fishing expeditions
I got the impression that the rozzers had rowed back from this tactic, being more selective

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As for Sir CR he was hit with a double whammy
The rozzers on an expedition, why not bring along the BBC
He was in one sense fortunate enough to be able to afford c.£3m in legal fees to clear his name
Most of which he got back from the BBC & the rozzers
A living hell for this period of time for him

The rozzers have got a lot on at the mo, they dont need to go far on their fishing trips
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There is the well funded Police Federation of England & Wales supporting officers & picking up legal bills

The rozzers dont seem so keen casting out the line to snag one of their own, a couple of examples 

It was revealed that a former federation chairman, John Apter, would not face prosecution over two sexual assault allegations made against him
Apter was suspended by the Police Federation and by Hampshire Constabulary in December 2021

it was revealed that a Met officer caught publicly masturbating twice on a train (and convicted of outraging public decency in 2018) was still serving after the force could only issue him with a final written warning

How does this work then ? 

[Doc Holliday]

I agree police obviously have a difficult job.

But I think you are bring very generous to them if you believe they only release details when they have a lot of evidence against the potential offender. (I assume that is what you mean by “well and truly cornered”).

Look for example, at the Cliff Richard case…when they first went to question him a pack of press and BBC journalists were already in place to film the event. That could only have happened IF the police had tipped them off in advance.

The Leveson inquiry back in 2012/13 into the media, (following the phone hacking scandal) examined amongst many things the relationship between the police and the Media and recommended that in the vast majority of cases, those arrested or under investigation should not named until charged. However despite government promises Leveson was never fully implemented and the second part of the inquiry never happened, largely due to pressure on the Government by the press moguls.

As a result the Police did not always comply, until the Cliff Richard case from 2014 onwards, moved the goalposts again. Cliff of course was never actually even arrested.

[Blackpool Rock]

She probably thought that if they found out she lied then she would of only had a community service order for the fact of wasting police time. How wrong she was. To be fair this does send a clear message to anyone looking to make false accusations.  However this may have a negative impact on actual rape victims who want to report their ordeal to the police,they may think twice about doing so in fear that they would be called a lier. 

I think the feminist would be going crazy that the mainstream media reported on this case for that very reason.

Yesterday morning they had one of the victims from the Rochdale grooming scandal on breakfast news and she was concerned that it may stop genuine victims coming forward.
Those cases from 10-20 years ago weren't believed and / or the authorities chose to bury their heads however attitudes had been changing, this may set things back again 

[puntingking]

Yesterday morning they had one of the victims from the Rochdale grooming scandal on breakfast news and she was concerned that it may stop genuine victims coming forward.
Those cases from 10-20 years ago weren't believed and / or the authorities chose to bury their heads however attitudes had been changing, this may set things back again 

The uk government in the past put money into TV adverts to encourage people to quit smoking, responsible gambling and on encouraging covid vaccine uptake.  Maybe they should give money to the policing to use on TV ads encouraging people who are genuine victims to come forward and to ensure them that they will be properly listened to and not dismissed.   

[Jonestown]

The uk government in the past put money into TV adverts to encourage people to quit smoking, responsible gambling and on encouraging covid vaccine uptake.  Maybe they should give money to the policing to use on TV ads encouraging people who are genuine victims to come forward and to ensure them that they will be properly listened to and not dismissed.   

It would almost certainly be a waste of money, with all of the appalling negative publicity the police have had recently around the activities of their own officers I doubt many women would voluntarily walk into a police station.

[puntingking]

It would almost certainly be a waste of money, with all of the appalling negative publicity the police have had recently around the activities of their own officers I doubt many women would voluntarily walk into a police station.

that is a fair point.

[PumpDump]

The uk government in the past put money into TV adverts to encourage people to quit smoking, responsible gambling and on encouraging covid vaccine uptake.  Maybe they should give money to the policing to use on TV ads encouraging people who are genuine victims to come forward and to ensure them that they will be properly listened to and not dismissed.   

No way. They shouldn't do this as it will encourage more fantasists to come forward and we could end up with more innocent lives destroyed. As Benjamin Franklin said, "it is better 100 guilty Persons should escape than that one innocent Person should suffer".

[webpunter]

It would almost certainly be a waste of money, with all of the appalling negative publicity the police have had recently around the activities of their own officers I doubt many women would voluntarily walk into a police station.

I doubt it either & a woman on a sky news app about a week ago commented exactly the same [i cant find the link now]

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It used to be that the british bobby was a person to be implicitly trusted
Trust in the police has mostly evaporated
Going on holiday you'd be wary of the police, the same applies here now
And its making the jobs of the straight up mainstream of the police 10x harder
People will start leaving the force they just dont need all the grief that goes with the job
This will include some of the best coppers who can slide straight into other good jobs

If the police want to clear up some crime they could start looking within their own buildings *
Which the BBC didnt bother doing either
& guess what, within both organizations it was widely known who the wrong uns were & are

* like the copper who wasnt fired when sentenced twice for masturbating on a train WTF
I'm presuming that the Police Federation were supporting him, advice & legals
For employees anywhere else than for the police & it wouldn't be the employer helping the individual they would be firing him on the spot
Hypothetically speaking if someone had been on a bender and didn't have scooby what they were doing then 1 in 100 chance of surviving it somehow
NOT twice !

[DastardlyDick]

I know of a serving officer who was kicked out of one force, but managed to get employed by another one as the first one used the wrong regulation to dismiss him!

[webpunter]

I'm getting an uncomfortable feeling that a very small % rozzers can run riot & do whatever they wanna do
Knowing that their colleagues are unlikely to shop em
On the met officers convicted of serious offences it's been reported that their work colleagues knew what they were all about
& had nicknames for them, like the rapist
The statistics for the met [& other forces] i presume make for uncomfortable reading

Talking about statistics the scoootish rozzers have it sorted
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It's shocker
One of Scotland's main police control rooms used a fake system to manipulate response time targets for eight years, according to documents seen by the BBC
The optics ain't the best

What's going on in the Met makes the Freemasons look like a positive influence 

[Blackpool Rock]

I'm getting an uncomfortable feeling that a very small % rozzers can run riot & do whatever they wanna do
Knowing that their colleagues are unlikely to shop em
On the met officers convicted of serious offences it's been reported that their work colleagues knew what they were all about
& had nicknames for them, like the rapist
The statistics for the met [& other forces] i presume make for uncomfortable reading

Talking about statistics the scoootish rozzers have it sorted
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It's shocker
One of Scotland's main police control rooms used a fake system to manipulate response time targets for eight years, according to documents seen by the BBC
The optics ain't the best

What's going on in the Met makes the Freemasons look like a positive influence 

Presumably a fair few are in it 

The Police close ranks to protect their own just like a criminal gang does

[DastardlyDick]

The Police close ranks to protect their own just like a criminal gang does

Or the Officer plays the "Diversity Card" and gets away with it.

[akauya]

Or the Officer plays the "Diversity Card" and gets away with it.

Seems to be white British cops were the most prolific offenders... or have I missed something?

"Met police found to be institutionally racist, misogynistic and homophobic" 
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[DastardlyDick]

Seems to be white British cops were the most prolific offenders... or have I missed something?

"Met police found to be institutionally racist, misogynistic and homophobic" 
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Diversity is not just about the colour of the person's ethnicity or gender - it also includes faith, sexuality and disability. There was an example a few years ago when a non white Officer tried to avoid wearing the force cap badges because they had a crucifix on them. It's on the top of the Crown, and about 1 mm high, if you're wondering!

[snaitram99]

Diversity is not just about the colour of the person's ethnicity or gender - it also includes faith, sexuality and disability. There was an example a few years ago when a non-profit white Officer tried to avoid wearing the force cap badges because they had a crucifix on them. It's on the top of the Crown, and about 1 mm high, if you're wondering!

1. What is a non profit officer?

2. I don't think there's a crucifix, i.e. with figure of Christ on the cross. Looking at images of Met police cap badge there seems to be what could be a Maltese cross on top of the crown, but not necessarily a religious symbol. There also seem to be Fleur-de-Lys - scope for objecting too French?

[DastardlyDick]

1. What is a non profit officer?

2. I don't think there's a crucifix, i.e. with figure of Christ on the cross. Looking at images of Met police cap badge there seems to be what could be a Maltese cross on top of the crown, but not necessarily a religious symbol. There also seem to be Fleur-de-Lys - scope for objecting too French?

Bloody predictive text! That should have been non white Officer
OK, not a crucifix, just a Cross, but this person objected to it as a "Christian Symbol" which, as a non Christian, they objected to. They failed in their attempt, which is probably why there have been no recorded examples of objections to the fleur de lys.

[akauya]

Diversity is not just about the colour of the person's ethnicity or gender - it also includes faith, sexuality and disability. There was an example a few years ago when a non white Officer tried to avoid wearing the force cap badges because they had a crucifix on them. It's on the top of the Crown, and about 1 mm high, if you're wondering!

My apologies, I thought you were one of the "anti-woke" brigade that dislikes anything to do with "diversity" and ignores the hundreds of reported cases of police corruption getting away with it for years due to complicity to straw-man argue the few (or in this case the one cop) who used "diversity" to "get away" with it. 

It's on the top of the Crown, and about 1 mm high, if you're wondering!

I'm not, but thanks anyway