Do escorts earn too much?

[Bonker]

But it's what we pay good money for.

Very good 

[johnnyx3]

The no tax lifestlyle 

[daviemac]

The no tax lifestlyle 

Not this crap again.  Every time we get threads moaning on about escort prices someone pops up with the tax free jibe when in truth they have no idea if they pay tax or not.

 

[Steely Dan]

The KitKat isn't.  At my local Tesco they're £1-50 for a pack of four.

When I first began to penetrate Hookersville, half an hour at my favourite whorehouse used to set me back me 40 KitKat multi-packs (at today's KitKat prices).

How about how many KitKats for a fuck then vs how many KitKats for a fuck now? Talking about today's Kitkats versus escorts from 20 years ago is not helpful. Nor logical.

I am way too lazy to do the research but I bet Kitkats are double the price and escorts have crept up maybe 25%.  I am all for escorts lowering prices so I can fuck more of them etc, but there is no point about moaning about inflation on a punting forum. 

[IndigoRocks]

How about how many KitKats for a fuck then vs how many KitKats for a fuck now? Talking about today's Kitkats versus escorts from 20 years ago is not helpful. Nor logical.

I am way too lazy to do the research but I bet Kitkats are double the price and escorts have crept up maybe 25%.  I am all for escorts lowering prices so I can fuck more of them etc, but there is no point about moaning about inflation on a punting forum.

True and ironically it’s still actually is between £45-£65 for a 30 min GFE shag in most Sheffield and Manchester parlours.
Although I definitely think most should charge more in 2023…

 

[sirloverman]

Good earnings are a major incentive to keep going.
I hope they make as much as they can.
I think it's a tough job, so I hope they are getting adequately compensated for it.

[KatieEdinburgh]

How about how many KitKats for a fuck then vs how many KitKats for a fuck now? Talking about today's Kitkats versus escorts from 20 years ago is not helpful. Nor logical.

I am way too lazy to do the research but I bet Kitkats are double the price and escorts have crept up maybe 25%.  I am all for escorts lowering prices so I can fuck more of them etc, but there is no point about moaning about inflation on a punting forum.

Interestingly I was discussing this the other day:

1st Shag 2 for one a Singaporean girl in Soho £10 plus 50p tip in 1978 Beer was 45p a pint of bitter and Guiness 50p    Lucky as young was encouraged to do her 2nd time 

Last Shag in Soho £40 with Kay and £2 tip for maid....Guiness after £8. ...oh and about a quids worth of Sildenafil too Found it bloody hard work to cum in alotted time wont be cumming again for few hours /days 

This part is really interesting to me as a SP

In 1978 your shag for £10 was 20x the price of a Guinness at 50p

If the equivalent was today then the shag would be £160. But it was only £40.
I realise to make it fair would need to compare same type of booking length/services etc etc

So…… therefore prices have not risen as much in hookers as they have in other industries, is the takeaway I’m getting from that.
I wonder if that will mean punters complain less about price rises (answer: nope)

The prices of everything has been increasing with inflation. Even more so if you compare further back to the 60s and 70s. But think of the house price difference too!

There’s not much SPs can do to singlehandedly fix inflation for punters. If anything you could argue the sex industry had remained stagnant for a long time and only recently prices are creeping up due to supply and demand. Other industries have increased prices much more than escorts have.

Like what are we * supposed * to do when rent and hotel prices have doubled in 10 years as well. Take a loss?

[sirloverman]

in 2023 it's perfectly understandable to pay more for an escort.
The price of washing, bedding, electric hotel, make up, condoms, location, travel uniform😏...
with no sick pay or pension. I think £250 per hour is reasonable especially in a niche service.
The days of £60-£150 per hour prices must be hard  to profit from.


 

[IndigoRocks]

Interestingly I was discussing this the other day:



The prices of everything has been increasing with inflation. Even more so if you compare further back to the 60s and 70s. But think of the house price difference too!

There’s not much SPs can do to singlehandedly fix inflation for punters. If anything you could argue the sex industry had remained stagnant for a long time and only recently prices are creeping up due to supply and demand. Other industries have increased prices much more than escorts have.

Like what are we * supposed * to do when rent and hotel prices have doubled in 10 years as well. Take a loss?

Absolutely … the average rates up North have barely changed or not changed at all in some cases in over a decade.

Mostly because business are frightened people will moan about price increases  - as that’s happening anyway I really think they might as well… 

Most girls aren’t in the high end rate category (good for the few that can get it). I’m not sure why people don’t just filter out the high end stuff from their search to avoid frustration rather than shaming women.

Ultimately - women are quite simply not going to suck dick for minimum wage. If people can’t see the very clear reasons why - then they are disconnected from what the job entails for women and the lifelong impact it can have (even after leaving the industry).

[alabama1]

in 2023 it's perfectly understandable to pay more for an escort.
The price of washing, bedding, electric hotel, make up, condoms, location, travel uniform😏...
with no sick pay or pension. I think £250 per hour is reasonable especially in a niche service.
The days of £60-£150 per hour prices must be hard  to profit from.

What a great asset to the punting community you are, not ! 

[daviemac]

in 2023 it's perfectly understandable to pay more for an escort.
The price of washing, bedding, electric hotel, make up, condoms, location, travel uniform😏...
with no sick pay or pension. I think £250 per hour is reasonable especially in a niche service.
The days of £60-£150 per hour prices must be hard  to profit from.

Are you having a laugh??? You think £250 ph is reasonable?? You do realise this site puts the interests of punters first don't you.    I'm sure we would all be interested in some reviews of your 'good value' £250 escorts.

I still pay £110 ph which I think is a far more reasonable rate.

Edit

If escorts can make a profit or not has nothing to do with punters.

[Milfman1112]

Do you think SPs earn too much or do they deserve it for getting intimate with us ugly sods?

If an SP works 3 days a week and charges £150 per hour she would probably clear 3 grand a week. So roughly £150,000 a year tax free. No wonder a lot of women choose it instead of a proper job.

What a stupid question....
Do you earn too much?
Thought not.

[sirloverman]

Are you having a laugh??? You think £250 ph is reasonable?? You do realise this site puts the interests of punters first don't you.    I'm sure we would all be interested in some reviews of your 'good value' £250 escorts.

I still pay £110 ph which I think is a far more reasonable rate.

Edit

If escorts can make a profit or not has nothing to do with punters.

I guess I need to do more research. Thanks for letting me know.
And your final point makes sense too, I wouldn't care about a restaurants overhead/operating costs so why care about an escorts. I guess it's because I see the restaurant as a corporation and an escort as an individual. you are right though.

[sirloverman]

What a great asset to the punting community you are, not ! 

Hopefully, my future posts will be better.
I do have a lot to say but i try to only say things that are on topic
or would be useful.

As for my punting I can share my hotlist if that is permitted.

[jamiekinkxxx]

What a stupid question....
Do you earn too much?
Thought not.

I think the clue is in tightfoot's name... tight... and he is obviously very tight! 

[finn5555]

As for my punting I can share my hotlist if that is permitted.

Write a review or two 

but read the rules first

[PilotMan]

As for my punting I can share my hotlist if that is permitted.

Don't worry, you'll soon get the feel of the place.

Stating that a particular prossie, or prossies in general should increase their prices, is frowned upon here - even if it is true!! So you're likely to get flamed, fireproof underpants are a good look  .

Sharing you hotlist doesn't help, sharing your experiences by way of a review is the way to go. As you are a new member you can review girls that you've seen in the past 12 months.

There's a guide to writing reviews here - External Link/Members Only or you can copy the format of others as long as you have the key info.

It's pretty easy to do a review, just consider the following;

Who did you see, What did you / they do (services), Where did you see them, When (approximately), Why did you give them the rating, How much did you pay for How long + any extras.

[PumpDump]

Do you think SPs earn too much or do they deserve it for getting intimate with us ugly sods?

If an SP works 3 days a week and charges £150 per hour she would probably clear 3 grand a week. So roughly £150,000 a year tax free. No wonder a lot of women choose it instead of a proper job.

A massage girl I have become friendly with showed me the list of clients she had in one day (no personal details, just time of appointment and duration). She saw 17 guys in her shift. Now assuming she gets half the massage fee and does B2B on half them (she charges £60 for B2B), that is £850 in one day. Not bad at all. 

[IndigoRocks]

A massage girl I have become friendly with showed me the list of clients she had in one day (no personal details, just time of appointment and duration). She saw 17 guys in her shift. Now assuming she gets half the massage fee and does B2B on half them (she charges £60 for B2B), that is £850 in one day. Not bad at all.

And as with all self employed jobs you have to balance that with all the days she’ll have had no jobs or a low number.

Plus for all you know she could have just done one or two B2B that day. It’s pointless guessing.

[Jonestown]

A massage girl I have become friendly with showed me the list of clients she had in one day (no personal details, just time of appointment and duration). She saw 17 guys in her shift. Now assuming she gets half the massage fee and does B2B on half them (she charges £60 for B2B), that is £850 in one day. Not bad at all.

17 customers on one shift is a very very long shift, don’t think that’s credible.

[Payyourwaymate]

in 2023 it's perfectly understandable to pay more for an escort.
The price of washing, bedding, electric hotel, make up, condoms, location, travel uniform😏...
with no sick pay or pension. I think £250 per hour is reasonable especially in a niche service.
The days of £60-£150 per hour prices must be hard  to profit from.

If you made your post within the context of London perhaps you would not have faced backlash as that price level is more common there. I see where you are coming in regards to no sick pay or pension and one could try to justify the price point to include that, but your post makes it look like you are not on the punters side at all lol.

[Bat]

A massage girl I have become friendly with showed me the list of clients she had in one day (no personal details, just time of appointment and duration). She saw 17 guys in her shift. Now assuming she gets half the massage fee and does B2B on half them (she charges £60 for B2B), that is £850 in one day. Not bad at all.

Based on a very small sample, but I have noticed that WG's tend to talk down the number of clients they have (so as not to seem like a conveyor belt) vs massage girls who talk up how busy they are, and that they work very long shifts and see lots of guys every day.

My initial impression was that the masseuse was after a "sympathy" tip, but I have a sneaking suspicion that the particular girl I spoke to was genuinely working 12 hour shifts & maybe hitting double figures in terms of how many guys she saw each day she worked. For this kind of relentless service I'd certainly want to be earning a significant wedge every day!

[southcoastpunter]

A massage girl I have become friendly with showed me the list of clients she had in one day (no personal details, just time of appointment and duration). She saw 17 guys in her shift. Now assuming she gets half the massage fee and does B2B on half them (she charges £60 for B2B), that is £850 in one day. Not bad at all.

it varies a hell of a lot from shop to shop and girl to girl and no doubt day to day. I went for a massage yesterday at a shop i often go to who rotate girls every two weeks. I went in the afternoon and she told me i was her first customer of the day and that the day before in her 11am to 9pm shift, she had one customer all day. so she won't be making anything like the figures you are quoting.

And that's the issue with a thread like this - there will be some escorts who make very good money and many that don't.

[threechilliman]

17 customers on one shift is a very very long shift, don’t think that’s credible.

I had one girl tell me she had 29 in a double shift, covering for another girl who didn't turn up!

[Jonestown]

I had one girl tell me she had 29 in a double shift, covering for another girl who didn't turn up!

Even less credible !!!

[jamiekinkxxx]

17 customers on one shift is a very very long shift, don’t think that’s credible.

+1

17, is that a 1hr B2B massage?  no sleep!

Even if 17 @30mins and 15min between massages that is 12 hrs 45mins....

[versace]

in 2023 it's perfectly understandable to pay more for an escort.
The price of washing, bedding, electric hotel, make up, condoms, location, travel uniform😏...
with no sick pay or pension. I think £250 per hour is reasonable especially in a niche service.
The days of £60-£150 per hour prices must be hard  to profit from.

 

[jamiekinkxxx]

To be frank though I cannot see the obsession of some guys and this topic.

It is what it is - we live in a free(ish) market economy.... supply and demand! It's just basic supply and demand.

As has been mentioned a few comments above some escorts will earn very large amounts of money for not very much work (and we all know that there are off the radar escorts that can earn 5 figure sums for an evening). Other WGs's will earn not very much money for a lot of work... and there will be every different flavour inbetween.

Why does it matter?

You should pay what you can afford and deal with the service you get with that. Some guys swear by a lower price point and are happy, others are happy to pay a much higher price point and are also happy. If you are not happy at your chosen price point then 'own' it and 'deal' with it in a way that you can be happy.

I would not begrudge any professional (WG or any other profession) for earning more money if they can justify it and earn it. Good on them!

[PumpDump]

+1

17, is that a 1hr B2B massage?  no sleep!

Even if 17 @30mins and 15min between massages that is 12 hrs 45mins....

The majority were 30 mins, a couple of 45 mins appointments. And yes, she does work long shift. There are shops in Central London that open 10am and close long after midnight, they keep going as long as customers are coming in the door. 

[PumpDump]

I would not begrudge any professional (WG or any other profession) for earning more money if they can justify it and earn it. Good on them!

Agree 100%, they deserve as much as they can make. I can't imagine doing their job, imagine having to work all day fucking whatever women comes through the door, no matter how fat, ugly or smelly she may be, whilst pretending you are really enjoying yourself and she is the apple of your eye.

[akauya]

To be frank though I cannot see the obsession of some guys and this topic.

Putting aside some guys' genuine concerns about financing their next shag, there are some other guys who just hate having to pay for it.


...and for some men it's this:

I’m not sure why people don’t just filter out the high end stuff from their search to avoid frustration rather than shaming women.

Combine the two and you have your answer.

[willie loman]

Even less credible !!!

+1 people who punt a lot, know what is credible.

[willie loman]

a fair few wgs have almost zero overheads, they work from their own flats, rent paid for, by the dole.

[sensualencounter]

a fair few wgs have almost zero overheads, they work from their own flats, rent paid for, by the dole.

I really thought that I’d heard it all on this thread from the idiotic women haters but this is yet another superb example of misogyny. What bollocks yet again.

[sensualencounter]

Putting aside some guys' genuine concerns about financing their next shag, there are some other guys who just hate having to pay for it.


...and for some men it's this:

Combine the two and you have your answer.

And right on cue….. here’s Willie Loman with another dose of crap.

[PilotMan]

a fair few wgs have almost zero overheads, they work from their own flats, rent paid for, by the dole.

I take it that you can substantiate your claim of a "fair few"?

[Punterperson1971]

a fair few wgs have almost zero overheads, they work from their own flats, rent paid for, by the dole.

Any proof of that or is it a friend of a friend of a friend told you,or was it some sort of role play that you mistook for the truth

[willie loman]

i usually punt in parlours, but sometimes meet the girls at their own homes, any sauna customer will tell you the same, plus in my forays into adultwork ive been in the girls own homes, family pics etc, what is women hating about making a banal observation about the reality of the sex industry in britain, its essentially a part time cottage industry.

[willie loman]

I take it that you can substantiate your claim of a "fair few"?

and you can substantiate the opposite?

[PilotMan]

i usually punt in parlours, but sometimes meet the girls at their own homes, any sauna customer will tell you the same, plus in my forays into adultwork ive been in the girls own homes, family pics etc, what is women hating about making a banal observation about the reality of the sex industry in britain, its essentially a part time cottage industry.

All paid for by benefits of course.

Nothing more than just your banal "observations".

All very assumptive.

Plenty of WG's treat it

[PilotMan]

and you can substantiate the opposite?

I'm not the one making claims, you are.

You opened your gob, now back it up, or shut up.

[KatieEdinburgh]

a fair few wgs have almost zero overheads, they work from their own flats, rent paid for, by the dole.

Even if you use your private flat that you live in (which can be dangerous) overheads are never zero.

Condoms cost a lot when you need to buy so many (men will complain if you use the free ones) you’ve got other toiletries and sex supplies, increased electricity bills due to needing to wash sheets up to several times a day. You pay to advertise, you pay tax, that’s without even thinking about paying for the *expectations* most punters have on how you look: so that’s getting waxed, make up, hair, nails, lingerie, clothes and stockings all cost money ……in this economy, those things are all increasing in price too. Indies or not. It costs money to work.

[willie loman]

All paid for by benefits of course.

Nothing more than just your banal "observations".

All very assumptive.

Plenty of WG's treat it

is  english your first language?

[willie loman]

Even if you use your private flat that you live in (which can be dangerous) overheads are never zero.

Condoms cost a lot when you need to buy so many (men will complain if you use the free ones) you’ve got other toiletries and sex supplies, increased electricity bills due to needing to wash sheets up to several times a day. You pay to advertise, you pay tax, that’s without even thinking about paying for the *expectations* most punters have on how you look: so that’s getting waxed, make up, hair, nails, lingerie, clothes and stockings all cost money ……in this economy, those things are all increasing in price too. Indies or not. It costs money to work.

i accept it costs money to be a modern women, and that using your own home would not be the preferred option of many,but not having to pay for a working flat is a significant saving, there are a fair number of wgs who are more or less part time.

[IndigoRocks]

Even if you use your private flat that you live in (which can be dangerous) overheads are never zero.

Condoms cost a lot when you need to buy so many (men will complain if you use the free ones) you’ve got other toiletries and sex supplies, increased electricity bills due to needing to wash sheets up to several times a day. You pay to advertise, you pay tax, that’s without even thinking about paying for the *expectations* most punters have on how you look: so that’s getting waxed, make up, hair, nails, lingerie, clothes and stockings all cost money ……in this economy, those things are all increasing in price too. Indies or not. It costs money to work.

Yep and anyone seeing parlour girls need to remember there’s usually a sliding scale shift fee to pay, plus room rent per job.

So all the of the above you’ve listed plus the large fees to work somewhere safe.

I wish we had zero overheads …

(Also, unless you’re asking overly invasive questions you’ve really no idea how many people own, rent their home or are on the dole) 

[Punterperson1971]

And there’s no way any sp is going to tell you they are claiming and either way it’s none of our business they could end up having a client being spiteful and do a lot of damage to them

[versace]

a fair few wgs have almost zero overheads, they work from their own flats, rent paid for, by the dole.

Deluded

[willie loman]

Yep and anyone seeing parlour girls need to remember there’s usually a sliding scale shift fee to pay, plus room rent per job.

So all the of the above you’ve listed plus the large fees to work somewhere safe.

I wish we had zero overheads …

(Also, unless you’re asking overly invasive questions you’ve really no idea how many people own, rent their home or are on the dole) 

if you visit a girl a few times you end up knowing this sort of stuff, plus you dont need to be that observant to know when you are in an airbnb , a working flat , or someones home.

[IndigoRocks]

if you visit a girl a few times you end up knowing this sort of stuff, plus you dont need to be that observant to know when you are in an airbnb , a working flat , or someones home.

Benefits status is not information people often give out freely in life IMO. Out of all the people in my life I’ve only had one disclose that kind of info & you’re saying working girls you’re seeing that you barely know are freely disclosing clearly information which could be easily weaponised against them after a few meets!?

I’m not saying it’s never happened - I just can’t imagine it’s common.

As for location - I was simply leading on from your comments about being on the dole and rent paid for.
Why do you assume their rent is paid for and they are on the dole …? For all you know their home is bought, paid for and fully owned by them.

[sensualencounter]

Benefits status is not information people often give out freely in life IMO. Out of all the people in my life I’ve only had one disclose that kind of info & you’re saying working girls you’re seeing that you barely know are freely disclosing clearly information which could be easily weaponised against them after a few meets!?

I’m not saying it’s never happened - I just can’t imagine it’s common.

As for location - I was simply leading on from your comments about being on the dole and rent paid for.
Why do you assume their rent is paid for and they are on the dole …? For all you know their home is bought, paid for and fully owned by them.

Sadly I feel that you’re wasting your breath trying to educate this fool. He reeks of superiority.
Ingrained bullshit is oozing from his pores. Even if he thought you might be right, he won’t like being told it by a woman, much less a sex worker. Yet another example of such strange behaviour from a man who pays for sex.