Grumpy old men - So what's pissed you off today?

[Punting2022]

I also have a 'cursed car'. A few years ago when they changed the regulations for driving London so that if you had a 'Euro 5' engine in your car then you were liable to pay some stupid amount 'per day' for the pleasure. However, if you had a 'Euro 6' engine then you were exempt. At the time my car was 'Euro 5' so I traded it for a car with a 'Euro 6' engine.
I'd had the car for 2 weeks when somebody ran into the back of me at traffic lights! I was 4th in the queue at the lights ... the lights changed and the first car (a 'Learner') stalled ... the car behind me saw the lights change and pulled-away ... into the back of me! I guess he'd driven maybe 3 metres and maybe was between 5mph and 10mph. It dented my boot lid and cracked the rear bumper (which is plastic anyway) ... but, first incident/accident/whatever in 33 years!

Oh no. At least if some1 gone into you. Poss claim. Where there is a blame. Theres a claim.
Sadiq khans euro 5 policy is another rubbish one by the so called mayor. Under his scheme a 1.2 derv fiesta would pay ulez if registered before 2015. But a 6.0 lambo no ulez.

The 6.0 pollutes london more.

Wait till euro 7. They are troublesome

[PilotMan]

Oh no. At least if some1 gone into you. Poss claim. Where there is a blame. Theres a claim.
Sadiq khans euro 5 policy is another rubbish one by the so called mayor. Under his scheme a 1.2 derv fiesta would pay ulez if registered before 2015. But a 6.0 lambo no ulez.

The 6.0 pollutes london more.

Wait till euro 7. They are troublesome

Can you offer an explanation for both of those statements please.

[Punting2022]

Can you offer an explanation for both of those statements please.

Well the 6.0 is pushing more c02 then a 1.2 derv fiesta. Just because of reg its allowed ulez free.

Euro 7 has a lot of filters. Added unreliabilty. Live sensors too for emissions. Some car manufactures had to detune to meet the regs.

Uk should have left the euro emission with brexit tbh

[juzz]

I also have a 'cursed car'. A few years ago when they changed the regulations for driving London so that if you had a 'Euro 5' engine in your car then you were liable to pay some stupid amount 'per day' for the pleasure. However, if you had a 'Euro 6' engine then you were exempt. At the time my car was 'Euro 5' so I traded it for a car with a 'Euro 6' engine.
I'd had the car for 2 weeks when somebody ran into the back of me at traffic lights! I was 4th in the queue at the lights ... the lights changed and the first car (a 'Learner') stalled ... the car behind me saw the lights change and pulled-away ... into the back of me! I guess he'd driven maybe 3 metres and maybe was between 5mph and 10mph. It dented my boot lid and cracked the rear bumper (which is plastic anyway) ... but, first incident/accident/whatever in 33 years!

And what's also really annoying is that your next insurance premium will increase, even though it's demonstrably not your fault, and you probably have a protected no claims discount.

[PilotMan]

Well the 6.0 is pushing more c02 then a 1.2 derv fiesta.

You're comparing a diesel to a petrol aren't you?

Also, what about the other nasties being emitted, which are just as dangerous, if not more so.

[Punting2022]

You're comparing a diesel to a petrol aren't you?

Also, what about the other nasties being emitted, which are just as dangerous, if not more so.

Im just saying khans policies are crap. The 6.0 petrol pollutes more then the 1.2 derv. But because of reg the 6.0 is exempt.
I drive a 3.0 twin turbo so emissions is not reallyn mportant to me.  But khans policies make no sense

[Punting2022]

And what's also really annoying is that your next insurance premium will increase, even though it's demonstrably not your fault, and you probably have a protected no claims discount.

Go to a accident claim manageemnt company. Doesnt go on insurance. They charge the third party

[Punterperson1971]

People again yesterday and today just walking on bus not  paying fares oh and even pushing straight to front of Que,and you don’t see any inspectors around and yet the fares go up

[timsussex]

Had a rare trip into town today so many people walking around like Zombies with eyes glued to a mobile phone
Several almost walked into me only looking up at the last minute

[Punting2022]

Had a rare trip into town today so many people walking around like Zombies with eyes glued to a mobile phone
Several almost walked into me only looking up at the last minute

Surprised none got robbed by a engineer

[hornypunter]

People again yesterday and today just walking on bus not  paying fares oh and even pushing straight to front of Que,and you don’t see any inspectors around and yet the fares go up

Majority of bus users in my area have free passes anyway, bus cap fare is OK for longer distances but personally my weekly ticket costs more than double what it did 2 years ago.. if the rules hadn't changed years ago in England , I wouldn't be a grump now.

[Punting2022]

People again yesterday and today just walking on bus not  paying fares oh and even pushing straight to front of Que,and you don’t see any inspectors around and yet the fares go up

Were they doctors or engineers

[daviemac]

Im just saying khans policies are crap. The 6.0 petrol pollutes more then the 1.2 derv. But because of reg the 6.0 is exempt.
I drive a 3.0 twin turbo so emissions is not reallyn mportant to me.  But khans policies make no sense

Why are you bringing politics into a discussion about a car accident, the reason he changed car is irrelevant to the point he's making.

[Jumping Jack Flash]

Go to a accident claim manageemnt company. Doesnt go on insurance. They charge the third party

The net effect of that is that all of our premiums increase.

[Punterperson1971]

Were they doctors or engineers

Young lads all in a gang and a guy on another route on his own didn’t want to walk the few stops

[FiveKnuckles]

This issue has been pissing me off for a while...  How would you pull a nephew aside and tell them to stop taking the piss!??

Long story,,,
My nephew and his mum are absolute piss takers.  His mum works a low paying job but brags her distant family has money, and if he doesn't succeed in education, he can go work for them in Australia.   She's given him a debit card and see's all his spend and often goes ballistic.  He eats places like Haidilao with his friends and settles the bill. 

Whenever they go out with us, it's 3 courses and rather than eat the plate, they'll leave a load of food behind.   Drinks they'll order wine and cocktails, whereas everyone else is on water (driving), soft drinks or a beer.


Recently on nephews 18th.  My sis asked him what he'd like for a present.  He straight up said he wanted VR googles or Mac Book Pro. WTF!!     I rang her and said just give him £50 or get him a clothes item.  He got his mum to buy him a Mac book, which no doubt will be tossed aside in a month or so.  He also wanted to celebrate with his friends (no family) at a City roof top bar.  His mum put an end to that fantasy 


The other day my niece took us all to a restaurant for her bday. (She was paying).   Drivers were again on water and soft drinks and everyone else stuck to soft drinks.  Nephew ordered a Korean cocktail to start.  Later orders a bottle of Soju.  His drinks bill alone was £20.    He's on a carb diet and orders an extra plate of Bulgogi for himself, and shared the rest of our BBQ.


The lad seems to know no limits.   I've told him previously that whenever you go out with friends (or in the future at work), always be aware of what others are ordering so you do not stand out.


This lad lacks any type of etiquette.  Never says thanks and never says hello to elders.   Do I just suck it up and ignore it.

[The_Don]

Never says thanks and never says hello to elders.

As in lacking basic manners at 18    

Something that stuck with me, many years. I remembered how respectful with manners a school friend used to be, in our early teenage years. 


 

[catweazle]

Watched an episode of "24 hours in police custody" the other day.

2 scrotes try to burgle a house. The alarms/CCTV alert the homeowners ( a decent, hardworking electrician) . He runs out and they scarper on a stolen motorbike.  He gives chase in his BMW.

Somewhere along the line he catches up and knocks them from the bike. The pillion passenger isn't wearing a helmet. Both are injured.

Police then arrest him for GBH.
Four weeks later the police  stop a stolen car, with false number plates. It's the same two as before.

The CPS decide it is " in the public interest" to prosecute the homeowner, and charge him with causing injury through dangerous driving. He gets 22 months inside.

They charge the 2 scumbags with numerous offences. The judge says that they bear a significant amount of blame for their injuries. They get 2 years, suspended, as the judge reckons their injuries will make life difficult in prison.

Unbelievable.

[Jumping Jack Flash]

Watched an episode of "24 hours in police custody" the other day.

2 scrotes try to burgle a house. The alarms/CCTV alert the homeowners ( a decent, hardworking electrician) . He runs out and they scarper on a stolen motorbike.  He gives chase in his BMW.

Somewhere along the line he catches up and knocks them from the bike. The pillion passenger isn't wearing a helmet. Both are injured.

Police then arrest him for GBH.
Four weeks later the police  stop a stolen car, with false number plates. It's the same two as before.

The CPS decide it is " in the public interest" to prosecute the homeowner, and charge him with causing injury through dangerous driving. He gets 22 months inside.

They charge the 2 scumbags with numerous offences. The judge says that they bear a significant amount of blame for their injuries. They get 2 years, suspended, as the judge reckons their injuries will make life difficult in prison.

Unbelievable.

That was a few years ago and the trial did show that he deserved to be charged and found guilty. He rammed the bike they were on. A homeowner is generally allowed to pursue people he reasonably suspects of committing an offence, but that doesn't give him unlimited freedom to use force.

Using a car to ram a bike makes me question whether that action was reasonable and proportionate. They tried to break into his house, they weren’t successful so in legal terms he’s on very thin ice.

[kayak]

That was a few years ago and the trial did show that he deserved to be charged and found guilty. He rammed the bike they were on. A homeowner is generally allowed to pursue people he reasonably suspects of committing an offence, but that doesn't give him unlimited freedom to use force.

Using a car to ram a bike makes me question whether that action was reasonable and proportionate. They tried to break into his house, they weren’t successful so in legal terms he’s on very thin ice.

The law is an ass. In natural justice if someone tries to break into your home you should be permitted to thump them, or pursue them and then thump them.

[Jumping Jack Flash]

The law is an ass. In natural justice if someone tries to break into your home you should be permitted to thump them, or pursue them and then thump them.

He didn’t thump though did he? He drove at them, knocking them off their bike. That’s not proportionate action, they didn’t actually break into his house.

If you take the law into your own hands then you must face the consequences when you take things too far.

[timsussex]

why cant we have a simple additional law that if you commit an offence while on bail then on conviction the penalty is doubled - and the sentences are cumulative

[Blackpool Rock]

Following on from Wetherspoons banning people using their phones on speaker or playing music etc that other customers don't want to hear I had the misfortune today of being in the gym next to someone who was watching something on their phone with the sound on, just get some fucking headphones 

[timsussex]

Last Wetherspoons I visited most of the customers could easily avoid music from other peoples phones by turning off their hearing aids

[Punterperson1971]

Following on from Wetherspoons banning people using their phones on speaker or playing music etc that other customers don't want to hear I had the misfortune today of being in the gym next to someone who was watching something on their phone with the sound on, just get some fucking headphones 

Same as public transport

[Thephoenix]

Last Wetherspoons I visited most of the customers could easily avoid music from other peoples phones by turning off their hearing aids

Pardon?

[mr.bluesky]

I've moaned about this before but it seems to be getting worse, Road work madness with over use of lane closures and temporary traffic lights. Here's a couple of examples. On the A45 going out of Birmingham in Sheldon near to Birmingham airport lane down to single file traffic and massive queues . Cones about half a mile before and after where work is being carried out but the best of it is that it's work being done on a grass verge  by the side of the road not the road itself but well away from it 
2nd example, tempory traffic lights and cones on the road heading towards and out of Stratford upon Avon down to single file traffic and long hold ups, once again work being carried out to a ditch thats yards away from the road itself. The best of it is at the time of driving past these places there wasn't any workmen about doing any work yet the roads were coned down to a single lane with temporary traffic lights 
I understand the workforce have to be protected ( when they are there) but they are working well away from the road. A 20 mph temporary speed limit with warning signs and speed cameras would be sufficient in both cases without causing long hold ups 

[Jonestown]

Honest John the independent car review site has been sold to Volkswagen. Financing, so no longer a top port of call when looking to change your cat. A great shame, it was a good source for information on older cars, with information on ranges, model and specs.

[daviemac]

Have you tried Parkers, they give all the specs and have reviews, you can even search for individual car specs by reg number.

[Jonestown]

No I haven’t, I’ll give it a try, thanks.

[Blackpool Rock]

Honest John the independent car review site has been sold to Volkswagen. Financing, so no longer a top port of call when looking to change your cat. A great shame, it was a good source for information on older cars, with information on ranges, model and specs.

My Dad always used to read Honest John and liked the fact it did seem to be independent advice and information, I guess that is no longer the case now, cheat device anyone 

[RandomGuy99]

Madness BBC News - Yr Wyddfa rows between people queuing and those skipping the line - BBC News
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[mr.bluesky]

Madness BBC News - Yr Wyddfa rows between people queuing and those skipping the line - BBC News
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Whats wrong with these people, don't they know we are a nation of queuers, there's nothing more the British love doing than standing in a queue, people are even doing it inside pubs now waiting to be served at the bar ffs 

[Blackpool Rock]

Madness BBC News - Yr Wyddfa rows between people queuing and those skipping the line - BBC News
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I can see both sides here though, while on the one hand it would piss me off queuing to begin with it would then further piss me off if others jumped the queue.
Furthermore it would piss me off if I had to queue for 30 minutes or an hour because a load of pricks wanted god knows how many selfies and group photos for their social media

On the other hand imagine you're doing the 3 peaks challenge which I understand can be a time challenge to begin with and you have a choice to jump the queue and possibly complete the challenge or queue while someone updates their fucking Twat Chat page 

[Munter84]

Never mind what side of the argument I come down on, it mostly just puts me off ever visiting Snowdon, at least in tourist season. Similar to the scenes of joyless processions of climbers waiting to take their turn on Everest before descending among plastic bags of human shit and corpses used as trail markers.

[Blackpool Rock]

Never mind what side of the argument I come down on, it mostly just puts me off ever visiting Snowdon, at least in tourist season. Similar to the scenes of joyless processions of climbers waiting to take their turn on Everest before descending among plastic bags of human shit and corpses used as trail markers.

Well the way you romanticise it will just want even more people to do it 

[scutty brown]

Never mind what side of the argument I come down on, it mostly just puts me off ever visiting Snowdon, at least in tourist season. Similar to the scenes of joyless processions of climbers waiting to take their turn on Everest before descending among plastic bags of human shit and corpses used as trail markers.

What kind of idiot climbs Snowdon when you've got a perfectly good railway to do the trip with?

[scutty brown]

Never mind what side of the argument I come down on, it mostly just puts me off ever visiting Snowdon, at least in tourist season. Similar to the scenes of joyless processions of climbers waiting to take their turn on Everest before descending among plastic bags of human shit and corpses used as trail markers.

A bit of global warming and a few more collapsing glaciers should cure that problem

[mr.bluesky]

Never mind what side of the argument I come down on, it mostly just puts me off ever visiting Snowdon, at least in tourist season. Similar to the scenes of joyless processions of climbers waiting to take their turn on Everest before descending among plastic bags of human shit and corpses used as trail markers.

Bags of human shit and corpes  oh well thats put me off climbing Everest next year then.

[maybe]

Those barrier things at the tube stations, those 'things' where you have to touch credit card or pass on it to get through.  Its not like they just magically appear at the station surprising everyone .... Why the hell do ppl get to it and then start patting down their pockets or digging through their hand bag looking for their pass like they surprised it's there  ....

Just be bloody prepared and don't holding up the line or get out of the way , so unthoughtful.

[timsussex]

Those barrier things at the tube stations, those 'things' where you have to touch credit card or pass on it to get through.  Its not like they just magically appear at the station surprising everyone .... Why the hell do ppl get to it and then start patting down their pockets or digging through their hand bag looking for their pass like they surprised it's there  ....

Just be bloody prepared and don't holding up the line or get out of the way , so unthoughtful.

Its like people at supermarkets who despite having stood in a queue watching others seem surprised that after packing their groceries  by the need to pay The pinnacle of course is the woman who packs her groceries on top of her purse
Thankfully these days most of the morons use their Apple phones to pay - although for some that means one handed packing as they clutch their Iphone in the other hand 

[Punterperson1971]

Those barrier things at the tube stations, those 'things' where you have to touch credit card or pass on it to get through.  Its not like they just magically appear at the station surprising everyone .... Why the hell do ppl get to it and then start patting down their pockets or digging through their hand bag looking for their pass like they surprised it's there  ....

Just be bloody prepared and don't holding up the line or get out of the way , so unthoughtful.

Same as public transport stand behind people trying to pay with their card and it’s being rejected then they look surprised as. If to say “well there’s money in my account”,or then faff around for another card

[Private Parts]

"one handed packing as they clutch their Iphone in the other hand".....

While chatting on the same phone to a friend they will see 5 minutes later.........

There, I thought I'd share my experience!!

[maybe]

Its like people at supermarkets who despite having stood in a queue watching others seem surprised that after packing their groceries  by the need to pay The pinnacle of course is the woman who packs her groceries on top of her purse
Thankfully these days most of the morons use their Apple phones to pay - although for some that means one handed packing as they clutch their Iphone in the other hand

Yah totally reminded me how bad this is when there's a big crowd queuing to get out! SuprisSSSsssse, barrier just popped out of no where and you need touch out!

[PilotMan]

Supermarket queues....scan and pay, problem solved, there's never a queue.

Tube barriers. That's just one reason I drive instead.

[Jonestown]

Same as public transport stand behind people trying to pay with their card and it’s being rejected then they look surprised as. If to say “well there’s money in my account”,or then faff around for another card

Don’t be daft, the only people who pay on the tube are those too old and frail to leap over or barge through the barriers. At Hammersmith station the staff stand around observing and award points, à la ice skating competitions, for artistic merit and physical dexterity.

[mr.bluesky]

Those barrier things at the tube stations, those 'things' where you have to touch credit card or pass on it to get through.  Its not like they just magically appear at the station surprising everyone .... Why the hell do ppl get to it and then start patting down their pockets or digging through their hand bag looking for their pass like they surprised it's there  ....

Just be bloody prepared and don't holding up the line or get out of the way , so unthoughtful.

It's exactly the same when women go shopping at the supermarket " oh I forgot I have to pay for all this " , let me rummage around in my shopping bag  / hand bag for 10 minutes to find some cash or debit card then try to use half a dozen money off vouchers which are now out of date or ineligible to use 
And don't get me started on queues at the customer service desk because of women returning clothing for a refund. If it wasn't right don't buy the fucker in the first place 

[mr.bluesky]

Supermarket queues....scan and pay, problem solved, there's never a queue.

Tube barriers. That's just one reason I drive instead.

I like to chat up the old dears or young dollybirds on the check out tills though

[Blackpool Rock]

Military veterans have been over paid pensions due to clerical / admin errors so their pensions have now been cut to what they should be, OK fair enough however they are now being asked to repay the money.

It's not totally clear to me from reading the article whether this is a Govt error or the private company but IMO these over payments should be wiped, one guy even rang the company when his pension went up 5 or 6 years ago to check if the increase was a mistake and was told that it wasn't so he's spent the money and adjusted his standard of living accordingly

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[scutty brown]

Military veterans have been over paid pensions due to clerical / admin errors so their pensions have now been cut to what they should be, OK fair enough however they are now being asked to repay the money.

It's not totally clear to me from reading the article whether this is a Govt error or the private company but IMO these over payments should be wiped, one guy even rang the company when his pension went up 5 or 6 years ago to check if the increase was a mistake and was told that it wasn't so he's spent the money and adjusted his standard of living accordingly

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Probably an error by the DWP military pensions team in Blackpool
I did a couple of IT support contracts there years ago and they were totally dysfunctional.