Author Topic: Mastodon - Twitter replacement?  (Read 1717 times)

Offline advent2016

Is anyone thinking of moving to Mastodon and do you think it will replace twitter for some types of media. I notice the BBC and all the major newspapers already have a presence.

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Offline standardpostage

Never heard of it ?
I will google it.

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The first few lines of the home page seems at odds with having the BBC on it so I'm out.
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Offline lostandfound

Looks like it's written in Rails - which suggests it is small by comparison, and would need to be rewritten for it to scale significantly.

Offline advent2016

As expected for any new platform, it's growing quite quickly.

Nothing wrong with rails if implemented and scaled properly, using say nginx, unicorn, puma etc.
Parts of Github uses it obviously along with git. Many banks use it as it's very easy and quick to make interface changes and bring in compute resources on demand.

The thing about mastodon I like is it's a distributed model, a bit like say p2p




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As expected for any new platform, it's growing quite quickly.

Nothing wrong with rails if implemented and scaled properly, using say nginx, unicorn, puma etc.
Parts of Github uses it obviously along with git. Many banks use it as it's very easy and quick to make interface changes and bring in compute resources on demand.

The thing about mastodon I like is it's a distributed model, a bit like say p2p
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I disagree.

Many startups begin in Ruby and / or Rails, but have problems scaling from both a technical and financial standpoint. So Github used Ruby, and Twitter has also used it. But they moved on. A platform that wants to be a realistic alternative to Twitter would have the same issues scaling - in fact Twitter itself had scaling issues.

Offline advent2016

Mastodon isn't owned by anyone. I guess it will change and evolve over time, there are quite a few Ex-twitter software engineers who may want to share their knowledge of how to design and run a platform that loses $4M a day. 

It may become something a bit more like Reddit. Relatively early days.

Offline Stevelondon

Did I hear that correctly earlier. Over 50% of Twitter staff have been made redundant.

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A lot of sex worker are moving over as the anxiety is so severe they are worried about the what If?

Same as discord channel and telegram channel

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Mastodon isn't owned by anyone. I guess it will change and evolve over time, there are quite a few Ex-twitter software engineers who may want to share their knowledge of how to design and run a platform that loses $4M a day. 

It may become something a bit more like Reddit. Relatively early days.

If they were running on Rails Twitter's costs would be a lot higher!

Offline Mr Sinister

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Did I hear that correctly earlier. Over 50% of Twitter staff have been made redundant.

Yeah about 70%, now they're trying to sue Musk bunch of snowflakes
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Offline Adoniron

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Yeah about 70%, now they're trying to sue Musk bunch of snowflakes

Suing him because he broke caiifornian state law in the way he fired them. They're out of a job. Why wouldn't they sue him if they can? That's not being a snowflake, it's standing up for yourself rather than letting the richest man on the planet f*ck you over.
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Leaving aside the scalability of Rails, it does look an interesting project, run by SDF ( External Link/Members Only ) who have been going since 1976.

Offline advent2016

Suing him because he broke caiifornian state law in the way he fired them. They're out of a job. Why wouldn't they sue him if they can? That's not being a snowflake, it's standing up for yourself rather than letting the richest man on the planet f*ck you over.

The richest man on the planet didn't get to be the richest man on the planet without learning a thing or two along the way and have a good set of lawyers.  He might think the cost of them suing him is cheaper than the alternative a bit like P&O.

Good people, especially software engineers and content creators, can always get good employment.

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The richest man on the planet didn't get to be the richest man on the planet without learning a thing or two along the way and have a good set of lawyers.  He might think the cost of them suing him is cheaper than the alternative a bit like P&O.

Good people, especially software engineers and content creators, can always get good employment.

Yes they will and they'll be getting a pay-off from Musk too by way of a parting gift.

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The richest man on the planet didn't get to be the richest man on the planet without learning a thing or two along the way and have a good set of lawyers.  He might think the cost of them suing him is cheaper than the alternative a bit like P&O.

Good people, especially software engineers and content creators, can always get good employment.

IMO Musk is an ideas merchant who got lucky with the idea of cars powered by laptop batteries (which was not his idea, as Tesla was already going when he joined) and with SpaceX; Obama took an axe to NASA's budget, NASA fired a load of geniuses, Musk flew down to Florida and hired them for SpaceX. And those SpaceX big brains also informed the design of Tesla cars.

Since then we've seen a parade of mad ideas from him, and this Twitter purchase is his biggest fuck up yet.

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IMO Musk is an ideas merchant who got lucky with the idea of cars powered by laptop batteries (which was not his idea, as Tesla was already going when he joined) and with SpaceX; Obama took an axe to NASA's budget, NASA fired a load of geniuses, Musk flew down to Florida and hired them for SpaceX. And those SpaceX big brains also informed the design of Tesla cars.

Since then we've seen a parade of mad ideas from him, and this Twitter purchase is his biggest fuck up yet.

Musk is fast turning into a parody Bond villain.

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IMO Musk is an ideas merchant who got lucky with the idea of cars powered by laptop batteries (which was not his idea, as Tesla was already going when he joined) and with SpaceX; Obama took an axe to NASA's budget, NASA fired a load of geniuses, Musk flew down to Florida and hired them for SpaceX. And those SpaceX big brains also informed the design of Tesla cars.

Since then we've seen a parade of mad ideas from him, and this Twitter purchase is his biggest fuck up yet.

The guy seems like a prick but I think he made a few quid out of PayPal first to be fair.
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Offline Mr Sinister

Suing him because he broke caiifornian state law in the way he fired them. They're out of a job. Why wouldn't they sue him if they can? That's not being a snowflake, it's standing up for yourself rather than letting the richest man on the planet f*ck you over.

Because before the firing was issued they wrote a threatening letter to Musk on not firing them and making demands, do you honestly think this is going to shine a good light on you from your new boss.

Musk/Twitter doesn't owe them a thing like any other company, those who have skills that are in demand will do good, but tech companies are laying off staff like crazy it's only going to get worse next year.

IMO Musk is an ideas merchant who got lucky with the idea of cars powered by laptop batteries (which was not his idea, as Tesla was already going when he joined) and with SpaceX; Obama took an axe to NASA's budget, NASA fired a load of geniuses, Musk flew down to Florida and hired them for SpaceX. And those SpaceX big brains also informed the design of Tesla cars.

Since then we've seen a parade of mad ideas from him, and this Twitter purchase is his biggest fuck up yet.

There's no luck in it, Musk like any other successful person is there because they had the idea and bulls to go out an execute it, also not caring what other people think of them. It's why a lot of people don't succeed in life as they care too much about what other people think of them. I don't like Musk as a person but I can admire the way he has gone about his business

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Yeah about 70%, now they're trying to sue Musk bunch of snowflakes


So if you got sacked, without notice, with no warning whatsoever, finding out when you start work, you would take it on the chin  :lol:.

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Offline Adoniron

Because before the firing was issued they wrote a threatening letter to Musk on not firing them and making demands, do you honestly think this is going to shine a good light on you from your new boss.

Musk/Twitter doesn't owe them a thing like any other company, those who have skills that are in demand will do good, but tech companies are laying off staff like crazy it's only going to get worse next year.

There's no luck in it, Musk like any other successful person is there because they had the idea and bulls to go out an execute it, also not caring what other people think of them. It's why a lot of people don't succeed in life as they care too much about what other people think of them. I don't like Musk as a person but I can admire the way he has gone about his business

Did all 3700 who were fired send him this alleged letter?

Wasn't he going  to fire them anyway?

Any employer which is going to terminate its ataff owes them a legal duty to do so in accordance with (1) their contract of employment and (2) the relevant employment law in the country in which they are located.

Offline Mr Sinister


So if you got sacked, without notice, with no warning whatsoever, finding out when you start work, you would take it on the chin  :lol:.

I wouldn't take it on the chin, it's harsh but also reality of the situation, I have friends in the US who states don't protect them, you don't get notice period, one was literally let go on mass video call then could no longer log back in. The smart ones were the ones who saw the writing on the wall and got out, otherwise there are those who will be happy to get paid till February

Offline Adoniron

I see Twitter is now hiring again. Some people were fired by mistake, including those with the skills needed for planned projects
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IMO Musk is an ideas merchant who got lucky with the idea of cars powered by laptop batteries (which was not his idea, as Tesla was already going when he joined) and with SpaceX; Obama took an axe to NASA's budget, NASA fired a load of geniuses, Musk flew down to Florida and hired them for SpaceX. And those SpaceX big brains also informed the design of Tesla cars.

Since then we've seen a parade of mad ideas from him, and this Twitter purchase is his biggest fuck up yet.

You don't repeatedly launch rockets with high value payloads based on just luck.  You certainly don't get to launch astronauts based solely on luck.

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Mastodon's servers are not centrally controlled nor subject to uniform service levels.
I wouldn't trust the service if you're wanting a persistent service with high reliability.
Of course you could suggest to 90125 that he start a UKP Mastodon server and see how that flies!

Offline lostandfound

You don't repeatedly launch rockets with high value payloads based on just luck.  You certainly don't get to launch astronauts based solely on luck.

Your point is a straw man. I never said SpaceX ran on luck. You replied to a post in which I pointed out there are a load of ex NASA bods at SpaceX.

Offline lostandfound

There's no luck in it, Musk like any other successful person is there because they had the idea and bulls to go out an execute it, also not caring what other people think of them. It's why a lot of people don't succeed in life as they care too much about what other people think of them. I don't like Musk as a person but I can admire the way he has gone about his business

LVCC loop / boring company, Starship, Hyperloop, Solar roof tiles, Neuralink, "Full Self Driving", dancer in a robot suit / mechanical man; now Twitter.

The list of mad ideas is long.

Offline webpunter

Sounds like a STD
Have you got mastodon ?
Do you ?
If so have some anti-biotics & lay off the booze for a few days 

Offline WASA38

Sounds like a STD
Have you got mastodon ?
Do you ?
If so have some anti-biotics & lay off the booze for a few days

To me it sounds like a mafia boss who's a wanker.

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