Abbybabygirl_, Oxford Circus - quite friendly - Punting is not the hobby for me

[anishgeek]

I visited Abby - External Link/Members Only

Comms with her were great - she was friendly, clear and gave me the right place to be. She was ready on time as promised.

Location is easy to get to from the underground.

Her pics don't show her face, but her body is pretty much slim and pretty as shown in her profile. Her face had makeup and was chubby in a cute sort of way. Her nipples are really pretty and her breasts are natural and cute.

I paid 100 pounds for an hour of nonsexual chatting. I had gotten us both breakfast from McD. It was quite normal, we both talked about a range of things. Her English is not the best but it is easily possible to communicate everything.

100 pounds more for 30 mins of punting. I could not get hard at all. She tried sucking on my dick after putting on the condom.


I even tried porn but when I went back to her it went soft again. I was not feeling bad because I finally confirmed that I am really really sociosexually restricted. I can admire a hot women but I don't get hard and want to fuck her unless we connect on an emotional level.

Abby was really understanding. She was not a clockwatcher and helped me with my dating profile. I think she is pretty chill if anyone wants to use her services.

I put neutral because I basically did not do anything and lost 200 pounds to confirm that this stuff won't work for me.

oh well it was worth a shot lmao. See you all in a few decades maybe by then I will be able to enjoy such sex.

[Liverpool]

And this is why you should've followed the advice we gave you on the thread you started.

You built losing your virginity up too much in your head and had a less than great experience.

Build your confidence with civvies.
Cut down on the porn you watch.
Socialise with people (not just for sex) to build up confidence.
Lose the incel mindset.

[Payyourwaymate]

OP, needing to connect on a emotional level to have sex and seeing an SP who provides sex as a service with no emotional connection is an oxymoron in itself no?

How old are you?

[Jeffers77]

Maybe such a passive girl with poor reviews wasn't the best idea.

[Liverpool]

OP, needing to connect on a emotional level to have sex and seeing an SP who provides sex as a service with no emotional connection is an oxymoron in itself no?

How old are you?

Says he's a 27 year old virgin.

[MysteryManNo.7]

Maybe such a passive girl with poor reviews wasn't the best idea.

True but by the sounds of it the guy has issues, including porn induced erectile disfunction, that even the most skilled SP won't be able to help with.

[LLPunting]

You could have determined the mechanical issues with a rub'n'tug and saved more than half your money.

Self-fulfilling prophecy if you went in "believing" sex would only be possible with an emotional connection.
There are many here who seek GFE encounters preferring (a convincing semblance of) emotional presence and interaction rather than simpler mechanical function or self-involved dominance (which ironically often has an emotive reflection component).  Most will successfully and enjoyably see less physically ideal SPs to obtain this.  You sabotaged your own experience by being led by looks.

I don't see why you bothered asking for the wisdom of the board when you ignored the guidance from hundreds of years of experience, particularly from those who've been punting longer than you or perhaps even your father have been alive, let alone sexually active.

[Payyourwaymate]

Says he's a 27 year old virgin.

Ah I see, thanks.

[Haderach]

Jesus.......... What a load of rubbish.

[LLPunting]

Jesus.......... What a load of rubbish.

Kwisatz?

[FiveKnuckles]

WTF is this?  you bought McD breakfast for a chat, got her to sort a profile cos you couldn't get hard, then rated it neutral.   Sounds like she fulfilled all your request and you failed her. 

If I were you, I would had chose a girl that gives reliable service.  Not seeing a face pic does nothing for your confidence.  You set yourself up to fail IMO.


good luck in the future.  Go for a rub and tug

[inspetorbarros]

If you are serious:

Repeat, with a more reliable service provider. Have a blue pill 1 hour before.

If you are a troll: get lost.

I visited Abby - External Link/Members Only

Comms with her were great - she was friendly, clear and gave me the right place to be. She was ready on time as promised.

Location is easy to get to from the underground.

Her pics don't show her face, but her body is pretty much slim and pretty as shown in her profile. Her face had makeup and was chubby in a cute sort of way. Her nipples are really pretty and her breasts are natural and cute.

I paid 100 pounds for an hour of nonsexual chatting. I had gotten us both breakfast from McD. It was quite normal, we both talked about a range of things. Her English is not the best but it is easily possible to communicate everything.

100 pounds more for 30 mins of punting. I could not get hard at all. She tried sucking on my dick after putting on the condom.


I even tried porn but when I went back to her it went soft again. I was not feeling bad because I finally confirmed that I am really really sociosexually restricted. I can admire a hot women but I don't get hard and want to fuck her unless we connect on an emotional level.

Abby was really understanding. She was not a clockwatcher and helped me with my dating profile. I think she is pretty chill if anyone wants to use her services.

I put neutral because I basically did not do anything and lost 200 pounds to confirm that this stuff won't work for me.

oh well it was worth a shot lmao. See you all in a few decades maybe by then I will be able to enjoy such sex.

[andy6969]

Try oral without next time with the same girl might get you hard??

[Haderach]

Just a troll, trolling the night away.

[s0whatsnew?]

Hang on a minute.   The pos-neut-neg rating applies to the GIRL,  not the service-seeker.   OP, by your own admission she performed pretty well and went above the call of duty to help you.  Yet you piss on her efforts by giving her a neutral.  Do you want to reconsider your rating?     

[isaac_gauss]

Don't know why people here are angry at this review. Sounds kind of like my first time. Oral sex is sex, so you're no longer a virgin, congrats.

So porn got you hard, but the girl couldn't. You conclude that you require that you "connect on an emotional level"? Interesting. Try no porn or wanking for 48 hours before, next time (whether with a pro or a civvie date.) Dunno what "sociosexually restricted" means but I know what porn induced erectile dysfunction and desensitisation means. Good luck!

[anishgeek]

@s0whatsnew? YES I thought about it. My experience was neutral but the girl went beyond her requirement to help me out. I think she deserves a positive review.

can you or someone help me by contacting the admin? I can edit the review or delete it and post a new one.

[anishgeek]

@LLPunting I understand, but I wanted a girl I found super attractive. The ones that have tons of reviews and are highly rated did not seem appealing to me. I did not do a comprehensive check, this forum really needs a leaderboard of all london/regional girls so I could go mechanically over the list.

I don't have mechanical issues. It is a mental issue. I did not go in scared. I was confident, I was filled with anticipation and excitement.

[Kool Keef]

@s0whatsnew? YES I thought about it. My experience was neutral but the girl went beyond her requirement to help me out. I think she deserves a positive review.

can you or someone help me by contacting the admin? I can edit the review or delete it and post a new one.

Changed it

[PumpDump]

I visited Abby - External Link/Members Only

Comms with her were great - she was friendly, clear and gave me the right place to be. She was ready on time as promised.

Location is easy to get to from the underground.

Her pics don't show her face, but her body is pretty much slim and pretty as shown in her profile. Her face had makeup and was chubby in a cute sort of way. Her nipples are really pretty and her breasts are natural and cute.

I paid 100 pounds for an hour of nonsexual chatting. I had gotten us both breakfast from McD. It was quite normal, we both talked about a range of things. Her English is not the best but it is easily possible to communicate everything.

100 pounds more for 30 mins of punting. I could not get hard at all. She tried sucking on my dick after putting on the condom.


I even tried porn but when I went back to her it went soft again. I was not feeling bad because I finally confirmed that I am really really sociosexually restricted. I can admire a hot women but I don't get hard and want to fuck her unless we connect on an emotional level.

Abby was really understanding. She was not a clockwatcher and helped me with my dating profile. I think she is pretty chill if anyone wants to use her services.

I put neutral because I basically did not do anything and lost 200 pounds to confirm that this stuff won't work for me.

oh well it was worth a shot lmao. See you all in a few decades maybe by then I will be able to enjoy such sex.

You should start with some massages. Book 1 hour massages and just go with no expectations except to relax. If you get horny during the massage and opt for a hand job that can be a bonus. I think you will find that the massage relaxes you and as you went there with no expectations of sex the pressure is off.

[drogoboy99]

OP could also try a prostate massage. not experienced it myself, but I think it read it triggers some kind of reflex response so that the person has an orgasm kind of involuntarily. this is also shown in a comedy movie with that Stiffler actor where a nurse does it to him.

[LLPunting]

@LLPunting I understand, but I wanted a girl I found super attractive. The ones that have tons of reviews and are highly rated did not seem appealing to me. I did not do a comprehensive check, this forum really needs a leaderboard of all london/regional girls so I could go mechanically over the list.

I don't have mechanical issues. It is a mental issue. I did not go in scared. I was confident, I was filled with anticipation and excitement.

This board does NOT need a leaderboard and that has already been explained by (more than one) management.
The least of the problems is that different punters have different tastes.  Your choice of SP is clear illustration of that.

You seem to be confused about what you actually want considering who you chose.  EITHER you want to fuck a girl you believe has a good body OR you want to "make love" to a girl who is convincingly sincere and engaging.  Each of these requirements has a different set of (highly) personal criteria.  Asking others for their recommendations offers no guarantees, otherwise you might as well be asking for a perfect arranged marriage.  Asking, without doing your research of all the reviewed SPs, is simply you being lazy, which kinda explains why you aren't succeeding on the dating front either. 
What you appear to be looking for is a girlfriend without having to do the dating which, should you succced with an SP, will place you at high risk of EAS and all manner of consequent psychological and emotional issues.

How do you know you don't have "mechanical" issues, you're still a virgin?  Stimulation has both physical and psychological components, enough physical stimulation can result in orgasm.  Just because you can toss yourself off with a bare fist, a fleshlight or an apple pie doesn't mean you don't have mechanical issues from a neurological standpoint.
You clearly do have psychological intimacy issues which you do NOT solve by trying to see SPs, you need psychological counselling, perhaps with an intimacy coach or a sex surrogate.

[yesbby]

I feel sorry for the OP

Mate, you’ve got to get off the porn. It’s ruining your life. You’ll get to 50 and realise you’re entire life has been wasted on an illusion.

Punting is also illusory if you think you’re going to find love but at least you are developing some form of human sexual relations. Many of the girls are decent and try to improve your life experience. Sometimes it’s the purest form of therapy. It’s a massive step in the right direction from a computer screen.

Take a blue pill - it takes the edge off emotional confusion and let’s you concentrate on the act. Maybe just start by getting someone to suck you off in half an hour and learn how to handle yourself. You’ve got to be able to convert it into being with a real human being with all their strange and imperfect qualities. Porn isn’t real. Life is and it disappears.

[justanotherinch]

Why are people being mean?

[alabama1]

Why are people being mean?

Why do you have so many shit punts ?

[Liverpool]

Why are people being mean?

Don't think anyone is. The OP asked for advice on another thread, we gave it. OP ignored it and bought a hooker a McDonalds. 

There's a wealth of experience here trying to help the guy. We wouldn't be doing that if we were being mean.

[mrpunterton]

Probably not the best place for this response, but I am going to rant off because I see the OP possibly making some of the mistakes I made in my youth.

As others have said OP if you are not getting sexually aroused by someone you find attractive sucking you off this is a mental issue.  Don't feel bad, you are not alone as there is a whole generation of young men who are having problems due to growing up with instant access to porn.  Real women dont look like porn stars, hell even porn stars don't really look like porn stars.

With the mindset of "establishing an emotional connection" I am affraid you're not going to have much luck with women. You need to remove the connection between sex and love. For men it takes a year into a relationship to establish a strong emotional bond, no woman is going to wait that long for you because believe it or not women like sex just as much as men.  If you are overly emotional, you will come over as clingy and nothing is more off-putting to a woman as clingyness. Dont believe this BS that women want emtional men, it's not true, women want emotionally confident men which is not the same thing.

It doesn't matter what you write in your dating profile, women as with men on dating apps are 100% visually orientated. Unless you are in the top 10% in terms of looks/height forget about dating apps, the top 10% of men will get a response for 1-in-10 enquries, the next 10% 1-in-100 and the rest 1-in-1000.  Dating apps are where good men go to die because all the women are chasing the top 10% of men and unless you are in that 10% swiping right to hundreds of women a day and not getting any responses is not going to be doing your mental health any good.

Finally, punting can actually help you find a girlfriend (if you so desire) by removing sex pressure from your persuits, women can spot a sexually frustrated guy a mile off.  Granted you need the cash to do it, if you don't have cash, work on yourself to increase your income.. which will also make you more attractive to women.. an so forth.

[LLPunting]

Why do you have so many shit punts ?

Did you read his negatives?  No, you didn't because if you had you wouldn't have said anything.
Looking at his review history he cleary takes more chances with his reviewed punts than you do and intimates a whole bunch of positive prior history to atone for.
Take away the 27 punts where you weren't first through the door and benefiting from fair form beforehand and your record isn't green across the board.
You may not be American but you sure do like acting like one.

[LLPunting]

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It doesn't matter what you write in your dating profile, women as with men on dating apps are 100% visually orientated. Unless you are in the top 10% in terms of looks/height forget about dating apps, the top 10% of men will get a response for 1-in-10 enquries, the next 10% 1-in-100 and the rest 1-in-1000.  Dating apps are where good men go to die because all the women are chasing the top 10% of men and unless you are in that 10% swiping right to hundreds of women a day and not getting any responses is not going to be doing your mental health any good.

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Apart from quoting from the book of PUA 101 where did you get the above stats from?

[Stevelondon]

Dear mrpunterton,
The OP is not in his youth. He’s 27.

I’ll give him the same advise my old dad would have given to me.
“Grow up for fucks sake”

Leaderboard……. Jeez 🙄

[mrpunterton]

Apart from quoting from the book of PUA 101 where did you get the above stats from?

Most pick up artists are just scam artists, selling the idea that if you improve your "game" you can get any woman.. However if you remove the tinge of misogyny the fundementals about how men and women approach sex and love are correct.

Those stats where released ~15 years ago, there were some more recent ones released by Tinder that were even worse, I cant find the exact articles but here is one about how women rate 80% of men as below average in looks that I found after 30 seconds of googling: External Link/Members Only and that's OkCupid of all sites where probably 9/10 women would rate themselves as feminists. These numbers are n't realeased anymore by dating sites anymore because who would sign up knowing that the odds are so stacked against you and it is actually not in a dating sites interest that you find someone.

I feel sorry for alot of these guys in their 20's growing up with instant access to every kind of porn under the sun, all kinds of mixed signals about what women want and how to behave towards tjem, viagra being used in record numbers, lowest testosterone numbers ever.  Sure a lot of guys have unrealistic expectations and just need to grow up but how to go about finding a partner is very different now to what it was 30 years ago.

[mrpunterton]

Dear mrpunterton,
The OP is not in his youth. He’s 27.

I’ll give him the same advise my old dad would have given to me.
“Grow up for fucks sake”

Leaderboard……. Jeez 🙄

I get where you are coming and agree but what we used to call tough love would be regarded as someone in their 20's as emotional abuse.

[docpassion1]

My two pennies' worth is as follows...
Maybe the OP has diagnosed his situation very well "Punting is not the hobby for me"
In my experience, most SPs do not provide an emotional connection.
The deal here is basically sex for money.
If an emotional connection is required first, here is not the place to explore.
The experiment was done and a conclusion was found.

Another option is to just make friends in civi street and see what happens. No rush and no worries.
Hobbies that women enjoy include Drawing, Painting, Singing, Dancing, Writing, Acting, Scrapbook etc.
If the OP was to sign up for a class or a club in such a subject, meeting women would be very likely.
My first serious GF I meet in a pottery class. The sex was good and it cost me nothing.
I guess many men have found love, sex, and happiness later in life.