Phoenix Parties - Aida

[another381]

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Wondering if anyone has raised concerns over Aida's BB with the management or worried when attending the parties?

I know its all above board at the parties and I can avoid days she's not there but at the same time she's mixing with guys and other SPs.
I'd like to go and I guess if she's working a day I can get in its a calculated risk but wondering what other peoples thoughts on it are.

[MysteryManNo.7]

It's been raised on here a lot and tbh, I don't think it's really a huge issue. Barebacking is something a lot of member like to get their knickers in a twist over and I do understand that it is, of course, a concern, but with most professional escorts I would think their sexual health is a major concern and there will be some that offer bareback that are careful.

Additionally Em will be well aware of Aida offering bareback as, to the best of my knowledge, she works out of the Phoenix flat with the help of Em as an indie.

Given she charges £500 in total for a bareback session I don't think many men will be taking her up on the offer and having seen her 3 times at TPC, she's really not that good with bad fake breasts, covered in rubbish tattoos and a rubbish haircut as well as it looks like she's had some sort of botched lip surgery.

I've never caught anything from any woman after 4 years of punting and I must have had sex with 50+ almost all of them performing OWO on me including Aida.

I would honestly say don't bother seeing her not because she offers BB when she works indie but don't see her as she's crap.

[SimonSays2108]

I'd echo MM7's comments - I'm sure Em will be aware and will continue to book her because, based on the rota, she's reliable / turns up multiple days in the week.

My guess is that her indie work isn't as busy based on how often she works at Phoenix - most girls are the only once / twice a week.

Its a risk we all take as punters , girls are going to bb UTR or with their partners / sergei ... Personally i avoid as best i can when she works but she doesn't do it for me so its easy.

[MysteryManNo.7]

That's one thing I forgot to mention, for all the pearl-clutching that goes on here surrounding barebacking I guarantee that if you've slept with a large enough number of WGs many of them will have barebacked at some point prior to seeing you either with their husband, boyfriend or clients they really like and trust.

To be clear, I'm not a fan, would not seek it out myself however any experienced WG will have barebacked.

[Malvolio]

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Wondering if anyone has raised concerns over Aida's BB with the management or worried when attending the parties?

I know its all above board at the parties and I can avoid days she's not there but at the same time she's mixing with guys and other SPs.
I'd like to go and I guess if she's working a day I can get in its a calculated risk but wondering what other peoples thoughts on it are.

You have no idea what the WGs and other punters have been doing before you attend a sex party.  If this is a problem for you do not attend a sex party.

[puntmiester]

If you're concerned about HIV, anyone that works at a sexual health clinic will tell you sex workers get regularly tested.
It's free after all.

And if anyone catches HIV , then they'll be given whatever medication that stops it in it's tracks. It's so good it won't even come up in blood work and will reduce that chances of it being passed on astronomically.

It's probably safer to engage in activities with a responsible* sex worker then girl at your local pub.

[MysteryManNo.7]

I would say its absolutely safer to engage is sex with a professional escort compared to a woman you picked up in a bar etc. Professional sex workers have a reason to take care of themselves and get themselves regularly tested whereas civvies women who don't shag much don't.

[another381]

Thanks lads, all sound advice.

As everyone's said its all a risk even with civvies and of course i'm sure the girls bb with their partners. I wouldn't seek out a WG who BBs same as most who post here which is good to know. Putting it into perspective I'm a lot less worried now. Will try to make it to a party soon!

[Makka124]

I would say its absolutely safer to engage is sex with a professional escort compared to a woman you picked up in a bar etc. Professional sex workers have a reason to take care of themselves and get themselves regularly tested whereas civvies women who don't shag much don't.

You must be delusional to think that every escort is getting regularly checked?!
Unless your thought is every bloke she’s been shagging is clean?
Also stated in the post  they will bareback the client they like and will have a regular life to maintain that too

Civvies don’t always put out and know what partner they are sleeping with!

Professional porn stars do test themselves regularly as a certificate is required

Unless your thought is the escort is going to show you there real name and test paper to confirm they are clean

[MysteryManNo.7]

You must be delusional to think that every escort is getting regularly checked?!
Unless your thought is every bloke she’s been shagging is clean?
Also stated in the post  they will bareback the client they like and will have a regular life to maintain that too

Civvies don’t always put out and know what partner they are sleeping with!

Professional porn stars do test themselves regularly as a certificate is required

Unless your thought is the escort is going to show you there real name and test paper to confirm they are clean

Please point out where I said that every escort is getting checked. I said professional escorts have a reason to keep themselves clean and tested. What you and I define as professional may differ but an escort who has been in the game long enough, has consistent positive feedback I would trust.

I must have slept with approx 60 different women over the past few years, mostly always OWO and always protected sex though condom breakages have happened unfortunately. Never caught anything so far.

Trust is a key part of this game. If you're going to be so scared of catching something why the fuck would you ever punt in the first place 

[Makka124]

Please point out where I said that every escort is getting checked. I said professional escorts have a reason to keep themselves clean and tested. What you and I define as professional may differ but an escort who has been in the game long enough, has consistent positive feedback I would trust.

I must have slept with approx 60 different women over the past few years, mostly always OWO and always protected sex though condom breakages have happened unfortunately. Never caught anything so far.

Trust is a key part of this game. If you're going to be so scared of catching something why the fuck would you ever punt in the first place 

Trust is key, but I’m not stupid and delusional enough to believe they all get tested, there are loads of positive feedback from punters who are happy with no kissing, no owo but happy for a hug and I’m sure some don’t even get lucky

It’s naive to think you won’t catch anything, even the most beautiful escort still catches or passes a STI

[MysteryManNo.7]

Trust is key, but I’m not stupid and delusional enough to believe they all get tested, there are loads of positive feedback from punters who are happy with no kissing, no owo but happy for a hug and I’m sure some don’t even get lucky

It’s naive to think you won’t catch anything, even the most beautiful escort still catches or passes a STI

Again, I never said I don't believe I won't catch anything or that all get regularly tested, I said I haven't caught anything so far.

No idea why you're going off on this bizarre rant. 

[Donnifrost]

I’ve read a few things about Aida but I think she is great at Phoenix. She has been with me anyway.
I like her look. She has put on a bit of weight since I first met her but I find her sexy.
Last time I saw her she didn’t do owo as she had been to the dentist & was being careful.
There’s always risks in what we do.
I’ve been offered BB from girls that don’t advertise it so maybe not bash Aida for being up front.

[MysteryManNo.7]

I’ve read a few things about Aida but I think she is great at Phoenix. She has been with me anyway.
I like her look. She has put on a bit of weight since I first met her but I find her sexy.
Last time I saw her she didn’t do owo as she had been to the dentist & was being careful.
There’s always risks in what we do.
I’ve been offered BB from girls that don’t advertise it so maybe not bash Aida for being up front.

Yeah of course, as we've both said there's risks in everything we do in life and punting is no different. Nothing wrong with pointing out Aida offers bareback even if she is upfront and takes precautions it is still a risk but I defy anyone to find an experienced escort who hasn't barebacked someone in their life even if they don't offer it to clients.

[tp69]

That's one thing I forgot to mention, for all the pearl-clutching that goes on here surrounding barebacking I guarantee that if you've slept with a large enough number of WGs many of them will have barebacked at some point prior to seeing you either with their husband, boyfriend or clients they really like and trust.

Big difference between going bare with a boyfriend and doing so with every person who throws a dollar at you. The risk is obviously there with every WG, as with any civvy, but that risk is significantly higher with anyone that BB's clients. These comments seem to downplay that risk which is a little concerning.

Minimising the risk to essentially be trivial comparative to a more careful WG doesn't seem accurate at all.

[MysteryManNo.7]

Big difference between going bare with a boyfriend and doing so with every person who throws a dollar at you. The risk is obviously there with every WG, as with any civvy, but that risk is significantly higher with anyone that BB's clients. These comments seem to downplay that risk which is a little concerning.

Minimising the risk to essentially be trivial comparative to a more careful WG doesn't seem accurate at all.

I wasn't trivialising it, I was stating a fact. There are those on here to whom the idea of a woman ever having had unprotected sex, even with a boyfriend/husband, is abhorrent yet if they've punted enough working girls, you have at some point slept with someone who has barebacked.

I agree there is a difference between bareback sex with a long term monogamous partner and clients. My point is there likely isn't an experienced WG out there who hasn't at some point barebacked. If the idea of sleeping with a WG who has, at any point in her life, barebacked disgusts you, you need to quit punting.

[SpaceRaiderDave]

Big difference between going bare with a boyfriend and doing so with every person who throws a dollar at you. The risk is obviously there with every WG, as with any civvy, but that risk is significantly higher with anyone that BB's clients. These comments seem to downplay that risk which is a little concerning. Minimising the risk to essentially be trivial comparative to a more careful WG doesn't seem accurate at all.

You are bringing in risk and probability into the equation but IMHO you've come to the wrong conclusion. At £500 a session she won't be getting many clients and as she is taking Prep so the risk/probability is extremely low to start with.

[tp69]

You are bringing in risk and probability into the equation but IMHO you've come to the wrong conclusion. At £500 a session she won't be getting many clients and as she is taking Prep so the risk/probability is extremely low to start with.

My comment wasn't about this girl, it was about his statement that seemingly suggested a BB WG isn't significantly more risky, due to other WG's having also BB a partner at some point. He's qualified that.

Personally I'd still see her as significantly higher risk, prep or otherwise.

[Makka124]

You are bringing in risk and probability into the equation but IMHO you've come to the wrong conclusion. At £500 a session she won't be getting many clients and as she is taking Prep so the risk/probability is extremely low to start with.

Prep isn’t a magic cure and prevention, it works if you know straight away, some people think it’s ok but what quality of life are you going to have if you’ve got aids or some other shit?

The high class escorts are using drugs just to keep going!

Of my friends has HIV from his own stupidity, which my attitude and stigma makes me not want to spend time with him because I don’t want catch anything

[MysteryManNo.7]

My comment wasn't about this girl, it was about his statement that seemingly suggested a BB WG isn't significantly more risky, due to other WG's having also BB a partner at some point. He's qualified that.

Personally I'd still see her as significantly higher risk, prep or otherwise.

This isn't what I said or was implying and I'd appreciate it if you stop lying about what I have said.

[tp69]

Firstly, if you read the end of the sentence, I did day you qualified your statement, so not sure why the need, however, your entire statement below, which was your first in reply to a post questioning the risk factor, essentially downplays the risk factor.

Both 'pearl-clutching' and 'knickers in a twist' are aimed at suggesting punters are overly concerned about the comparable risk.

Also, your assumption that because she charges a lot, she won't be barebacking many guys is simply that, an assumption, you have no idea how many she does.

Your statements above are contrary to what you're now getting offended about.

It's been raised on here a lot and tbh, I don't think it's really a huge issue. Barebacking is something a lot of member like to get their knickers in a twist over and I do understand that it is, of course, a concern, but with most professional escorts I would think their sexual health is a major concern and there will be some that offer bareback that are careful.

I've never caught anything from any woman after 4 years of punting and I must have had sex with 50+ almost all of them performing OWO on me including Aida.

[Makka124]

Firstly, if you read the end of the sentence, I did day you qualified your statement, so not sure why the need, however, your entire statement below, which was your first in reply to a post questioning the risk factor, essentially downplays the risk factor.

Both 'pearl-clutching' and 'knickers in a twist' are aimed at suggesting punters are overly concerned about the comparable risk.

Also, your assumption that because she charges a lot, she won't be barebacking many guys is simply that, an assumption, you have no idea how many she does.

Your statements above are contrary to what you're now getting offended about.

If a person choose to bareback with all information given that’s there choice, but I’m not naive to think they aren’t barebacking or not using substances
I do believe there are a few girls that do enjoy the job but that’s slim pickings