Author Topic: Olivia Pratt-Korbel  (Read 1626 times)

Offline chrishornx

looks like they may have the twat who killed her

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if so hats off to the police great work relentless effort   :hi: :hi: :hi:




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might be a bit premature - hes the 10th man to be arrested and nobody has yet been charged let alone convicted of her murder over a month ago .


Congratulating the police is even more premature (if that is possible)

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looks like they may have the twat who killed her

I wonder who gave him up, and how much it cost the police, and if it involves anyone in the criminal network

Who ever he is, he not going to have an easy time in jail, but guess his new jail mates will welcome him with open arms

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Well the £200,000 reward should have made someone talk, unless that someone might get their tounge blown out of their head!!!

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Well the £200,000 reward should have made someone talk, unless that someone might get their tounge blown out of their head!!!

Praising the Police for not knowing the criminals and dealers on their patch, and needing a 200k bribe to catch them.  :lol:
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The constant self praise of Merside Police on how they have reduced gun crime,no you have'nt the shithouses stopped pulling triggers,the guns are still on the streets,3 gun murders in 7 days,out of control you muppets.

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Merseyside has quite a large organised crime network. I was amazed how many known criminals they pulled in earlier in this investigation. Surely if they knew who the criminals were, they should be nicked anyway?

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Merseyside has quite a large organised crime network. I was amazed how many known criminals they pulled in earlier in this investigation. Surely if they knew who the criminals were, they should be nicked anyway?

That would have meant doing some work which is not really what the police are keen on these days.
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Time to bring the Death Penalty back, not only has a young child lost their life the whole family has had there’s ruined

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Time to bring the Death Penalty back, not only has a young child lost their life the whole family has had there’s ruined

I would agree IF I was confident the system would get the right man - unfortunately there have been too many miscarriages  of justice

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That bloke Albert Pierepoint who was the countrys last hangman said that he no longer belived the death penatly did any good...

Seemed that the execution of Ruth Ellis affected him badley..

Offline mr.bluesky

I would agree IF I was confident the system would get the right man - unfortunately there have been too many miscarriages  of justice

Then life imprisonment should mean exactly that. Lock them up and never let them out. None  of this " recomend they serve 30 years" nonsense.  Someone who kills someone in their 20's would still be in their 50's when released .

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I would agree IF I was confident the system would get the right man - unfortunately there have been too many miscarriages  of justice


Evidence today is far more compelling if they actually do the job correctly, Forensic and phone evidence usually convicts those charged.
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A man has been charged with her murder and the attempted murder of her mother and the man he was chasing..

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That bloke Albert Pierepoint who was the countrys last hangman said that he no longer belived the death penatly did any good...

Seemed that the execution of Ruth Ellis affected him badley..

I think you will find he wasn't this country's last hangman, also I think you'll find he said "hanging is not a deterrent".
Although IMO it should be a punishment.

Offline Tecova

I think organised crime isn't really something people care about and for some people is seen as something worthwhile given the money that can be made and the 'Peaky Blinder' kudos.  It's upsetting that this little girl has died but I've spoken to people including addicts who remark on this girl's death and say that 'the gangs will police themselves', 'it's just a mistake; these gangs don't do bad things like this', or 'it's sad but we can't grass him up'.

I think we must take a leaf out of Guardians of the North and other 'paedophile hunter's' and help to catch drug dealers and gangs.  It seems pretty easy to get a group and surround a suspect and live stream it so why not stop with paedophiles.

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[quote author=Tecova link=topic=356355.msg3674626#msg3674626 date=1664714140

I think we must take a leaf out of Guardians of the North and other 'paedophile hunter's' and help to catch drug dealers and gangs.  It seems pretty easy to get a group and surround a suspect and live stream it so why not stop with paedophiles.
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I get your sentiment. However there's a world of difference between concerned citizens filming solitary potential pedophiles, and taking on a criminal gang.
The police should be the biggest, scariest gang about, and dealing appropriately with these Crims.
Alas, they seem to prefer rainbows on police cars....

Offline chrishornx

I think you will find he wasn't this country's last hangman, also I think you'll find he said "hanging is not a deterrent".
Although IMO it should be a punishment.

he wasn't

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I think you will find he wasn't this country's last hangman, also I think you'll find he said "hanging is not a deterrent".
Although IMO it should be a punishment.

You are correct, he wasn't. Yes, I think that was the level of his comments. He has, as you point out, been misinterpreted, I think. People are saying that that comment of his means that he was anti-death penalty in his later years which I simply do not believe. Passing comment that it is not a deterrent is simply stating the bleeding obvious, to be honest.

The story of Mr Pierrepoint, and most of the the hangmen and their assistants of the 20th Century is a fascinating one. When you read into these people it's fairly clear that lots of them were probably psychotic and were only a few steps away from being serial murderers themselves. Albert Pierrepoint hanged literally hundreds of people all over the world and had a career spanning decades. He had family who did the same and the notion that he was some sort of repentant type at the end of his life really doesn't hold water. One of his assistants, Sid Dernley wrote a book about his experiences a good few years ago. One of the accounts he gave was of working for the Americans with Pierrepoint in about 1944 at Shepton Mallet. The US military had a glut of their soldiers who had been sentenced to death for things like murder, rape, etc. They'd flown them in from all over the world, apparently. He and Pierrepoint hanged, I think nineteen Americans that day and apparently left with their pockets "stuffed to overflowing with money". It was the biggest mass execution on British soil in hundreds of years, I believe. These people were unhinged, quite frankly.

He was right, though. It's not a deterrent. When I first started being interested in this sort of thing I was quite shocked as to how many people we actually managed to put to death in the first half of the last century. It was something like two every month. So literally hundreds! You kind of get the idea that hanging people was a rarity but it really wasn't. Also when you consider that more than 50% of those sentenced to death had their sentences commuted to life imprisonment, it's pretty clear that all those people were certainly not deterred in any way by the thought of a meeting with Mr Pierrepoint and his length of hemp.
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Then life imprisonment should mean exactly that. Lock them up and never let them out. None  of this " recomend they serve 30 years" nonsense.  Someone who kills someone in their 20's would still be in their 50's when released .

Courts do not not give "recommendations" as to time served on life sentences these days and have not done so for knocking on 20 years now. The portion of the sentence to be served incarcerated is stipulated in law and judges have little leeway to vary that. A tariff of "30 years" handed out today means that parole cannot even be considered until that period has elapsed.

I do agree that sentences for murder should be very long and, when you actually look at it, they often are these days. There are many prisoners on 30 year minimums and a good number on whole life orders. That cunt of a cop who murdered the young lady in London last year is doing a WLO, as is Joanne Dennehy (the only woman in British legal history to receive that sentence from a trial judge), Ian Huntley is on a 40 year minimum and, let's be honest, is never getting out. They have just charged someone with the murder of this poor little girl. Upon conviction he will be given the mandatory life sentence and his tariff will be an absolute minimum of 25 years and I think even that is pushing it - 30 years will probably be the starting point, I'd think. Bottom line is that he will spend absolutely decades behind bars and likely may never be released. 
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Offline Thephoenix

I think you will find he wasn't this country's last hangman, also I think you'll find he said "hanging is not a deterrent".
Although IMO it should be a punishment.
It stops them from re-offending.

Offline chrishornx

And he may well be in isolation for a lot of his sentence

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I think organised crime isn't really something people care about and for some people is seen as something worthwhile given the money that can be made and the 'Peaky Blinder' kudos.  It's upsetting that this little girl has died but I've spoken to people including addicts who remark on this girl's death and say that 'the gangs will police themselves', 'it's just a mistake; these gangs don't do bad things like this', or 'it's sad but we can't grass him up'.

I think we must take a leaf out of Guardians of the North and other 'paedophile hunter's' and help to catch drug dealers and gangs.  It seems pretty easy to get a group and surround a suspect and live stream it so why not stop with paedophiles.

I fail to see as to how addicts and organised crime fans are representative of the public at large. Speaking as a relatively normal, reasonably comfortably off bloke in me 50's I can state quite categorically that although organised crime has very little direct effect upon myself it's not something which I find un-concerning and would happily have all these cunts thrown in jail tomorrow - preferably with each one of them having a 9mm bullet pass through their knee-caps once a year added punishment.   
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It stops them from re-offending.

Which is a preventive rather than a deterrent. Which, in all fairness, is a perfectly reasonable thing to take into account but it shouldn't be touted as some sort of deterrent as some people try to do. 
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A friend of mine is QC or KC rather these days! Had a beer or many with him one eveing and the subject of the death penalty came up, said that around 100% of his chanbers where gainst the death penalty they all seemed to fear a person being wrongfully convicted and  to late to say sorry afterwards!