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Offline Stevelondon

Anybody see Bernie Ecclestone interview.
Apparently Vlad is a “First class person” as far as Bern is concerned and he adores him so much “He would take a bullet for him”

Get yourself over to a Ukraine Bernie. You just might.

What a fuckin tosser the dwarf is.

I can’t remember the reporters name. But he said later on when on good morning Britain. Something along the lines that Ecclestone and Putin both suffered with the same dysmorphia.
That of small person syndrome.


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Bernie Eccleston is a senile old tosser. Best description for him is LOMBARD.
Loads Of Money But A Right Dickhead.
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Offline chrishornx

Bernie Eccleston is a senile old tosser. Best description for him is LOMBARD.
Loads Of Money But A Right Dickhead.

he is in good company with Putin

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Bernie Eccleston is a senile old tosser. Best description for him is LOMBARD.
Loads Of Money But A Right Dickhead.

A billionaire dickhead


Offline King Nuts

Predictably, everyone's piling in. He has a different opinion and thus must be an idiot/dickhead/cunt etc.

I s'pose if you liken the Ukraine situation to Mordor vs The Shire, then that opinion fits, and no more thought is required.

It sort of sums up what's wrong these days. 'You don't think like me, therefore you are an idiot, and I'm not going to bother listening to you'.

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Predictably, everyone's piling in. He has a different opinion and thus must be an idiot/dickhead/cunt etc.

I s'pose if you liken the Ukraine situation to Mordor vs The Shire, then that opinion fits, and no more thought is required.

It sort of sums up what's wrong these days. 'You don't think like me, therefore you are an idiot, and I'm not going to bother listening to you'.

or maybe you could credit people for already having an opinion about Bernie which this simply reinforces.

Despite what you and a few others try and say the Ukraine situation is clear cut so far as the role of the evil fucker Putin- but lets not get into that on this thread it has been done elsewhere.

Offline King Nuts

or maybe you could credit people for already having an opinion about Bernie which this simply reinforces.

Despite what you and a few others try and say the Ukraine situation is clear cut so far as the role of the evil fucker Putin- but lets not get into that on this thread it has been done elsewhere.

You and Jonty seem to enjoy following me around the forum.

I've just put him on 'ignore' as his comments are just tiresome. Yours tend to show a little more perception and originality, but you get a bit borderline sometimes, especially with your ongoing spats with certain other posters.

Isn't this place supposed to be fun? You know, a bit of banter with the odd intellectually-challenging comment thrown in?

It ain't the House, and it ain't the Oxford Union, and I'm not at the Other Place any more.....





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You and Jonty seem to enjoy following me around the forum.

I've just put him on 'ignore' as his comments are just tiresome. Yours tend to show a little more perception and originality, but you get a bit borderline sometimes, especially with your ongoing spats with certain other posters.

Isn't this place supposed to be fun? You know, a bit of banter with the odd intellectually-challenging comment thrown in?

It ain't the House, and it ain't the Oxford Union, and I'm not at the Other Place any more.....

Right I get it - it is fun when you are having a go but steps over the line if we push back at you!!

I do agree that the spats got tiresome and that they were driven by my strong views on Ukraine, I find it hard to stomach the Putin defence when seeing the misery he has caused.  I tried on several occasions to back away from the M&B ones and I have put Handal on ignore to stop that one.  Actually M&B seems to have got much better and is debating more now.

Offline King Nuts

Right I get it - it is fun when you are having a go but steps over the line if we push back at you!!

I do agree that the spats got tiresome and that they were driven by my strong views on Ukraine, I find it hard to stomach the Putin defence when seeing the misery he has caused.  I tried on several occasions to back away from the M&B ones and I have put Handal on ignore to stop that one.  Actually M&B seems to have got much better and is debating more now.

You can push back all you like. Doesn't bother me. My attention will just wander off elsewhere if things start getting dull, that's all.

Anyway, I like M and B. He has some spirited ideas, and doesn't hold back.

Offline Stevelondon

Predictably, everyone's piling in. He has a different opinion and thus must be an idiot/dickhead/cunt etc.

I s'pose if you liken the Ukraine situation to Mordor vs The Shire, then that opinion fits, and no more thought is required.

It sort of sums up what's wrong these days. 'You don't think like me, therefore you are an idiot, and I'm not going to bother listening to you'.

An analogy I would never have thought of. 😂

Bernie is of course allowed his opinions, as we all are.
As for Putin being the good guy in all this.
I’m open ears.

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Predictably, everyone's piling in. He has a different opinion and thus must be an idiot/dickhead/cunt etc.

I s'pose if you liken the Ukraine situation to Mordor vs The Shire, then that opinion fits, and no more thought is required.

It sort of sums up what's wrong these days. 'You don't think like me, therefore you are an idiot, and I'm not going to bother listening to you'.

He's not an idiot for having a different opinion.
He's an idiot because his opinion is idiotic.
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Offline chrishornx

He's not an idiot for having a different opinion.
He's an idiot because his opinion is idiotic.

very well put.

Offline jeanphillipe

Bernie Ecclestone has beyond fuck you money.  So he can voice his opinion without caring what others think.

Offline Adoniron

Bernie Ecclestone has beyond fuck you money.  So he can voice his opinion without caring what others think.

He can but his wealth doesn't make his opinion any more valid than that of a tramp on the street nor does it mean the rest of us can't call out his idiocy.

Offline Thephoenix

I thought this might have found it's way on to the Ukraine thread saga.

After all there are a few other Putin fan boys on there.
 
The guy hero worships Putin.
He said he'd "take a bullet for him", because he's a "first class person".

Eccleston says he's "not a supporter of democracy".
"We need dictators who say... this is what I'm going to do!"
"In a democracy it just gets watered down!"

In 2019 he actually remarked that we'd all be better off if Putin was running Europe because he does what he says he's going to do.

This is the guy who also said he admired Hitler, because he "could command a lot of people and get things done."


Offline Stevelondon

I thought this might have found it's way on to the Ukraine thread saga.

After all there are a few other Putin fan boys on there.
 
The guy hero worships Putin.
He said he'd "take a bullet for him", because he's a "first class person".

Eccleston says he's "not a supporter of democracy".
"We need dictators who say... this is what I'm going to do!"
"In a democracy it just gets watered down!"

In 2019 he actually remarked that we'd all be better off if Putin was running Europe because he does what he says he's going to do.

This is the guy who also said he admired Hitler, because he "could command a lot of people and get things done."


Yes I had forgotten about that.
Its a wonder Bernie has not been knighted  :D

Well put Lambo and Adoniron.  :thumbsup:

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He can but his wealth doesn't make his opinion any more valid than that of a tramp.


Total bollocks.

Offline puntingking

He's not an idiot for having a different opinion.
He's an idiot because his opinion is idiotic.

Not really.
Look up the definition of the meaning of the word "idiot".

It means a person of low intelligence. 

He is a person who was a boss of F1 so he can't be a person of low intelligence so therefore he is not a idiot which by definition makes you more of a idiot than him "lower intelligence".

No offence..

Just pointing out the fact.  :hi:
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Offline hermanmunster

Not really.
Look up the definition of the meaning of the word "idiot".

It means a person of low intelligence. 

He is a person who was a boss of F1 so he can't be a person of low intelligence so therefore he is not a idiot which by definition makes you more of a idiot than him "lower intelligence".

No offence..

Just pointing out the fact.  :hi:

To be fair, Ecclestone did acquire a reputation for not being very bright back in the 60s. He was considered a "hanger on" among the well known racing drivers. So your "fact" may not be very "factual".
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Not really.
Look up the definition of the meaning of the word "idiot".

It means a person of low intelligence. 

He is a person who was a boss of F1 so he can't be a person of low intelligence so therefore he is not a idiot which by definition makes you more of a idiot than him "lower intelligence".

......

you arent allowing for the effects of senility - just because he wasnt stupid 25 years ago doesnt mean he isnt an idiot now

Offline puntingking

you arent allowing for the effects of senility - just because he wasnt stupid 25 years ago doesnt mean he isnt an idiot now

Idiot means = low intelligence as I pointed out

Anyone who created their own millions like he has is not stupid which is another word for idiot. Not now, not ever.

I don't agree what he said though but in a free society he is aloud to think it and speak his mind.

You are aloud to call him stupid but not sure why you would as that doesn't bring nothing to the discussion.  You can argue why he is wrong but calling him an idiot or stupid is not true because he clearly not an idiot by definition..

Offline Blackpool Rock

you arent allowing for the effects of senility - just because he wasnt stupid 25 years ago doesnt mean he isnt an idiot now
Well this is from about 9 years ago and shows how he struggled to cope with a revolving door  :D

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Offline hermanmunster

Idiot means = low intelligence as I pointed out

Anyone who created their own millions like he has is not stupid which is another word for idiot. Not now, not ever.

I don't agree what he said though but in a free society he is aloud to think it and speak his mind.

You are aloud to call him stupid but not sure why you would as that doesn't bring nothing to the discussion.  You can argue why he is wrong but calling him an idiot or stupid is not true because he clearly not an idiot by definition..

Read my comment above and read how he was "gifted" Formula 1 rights.

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Well this is from about 9 years ago and shows how he struggled to cope with a revolving door  :D

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We all have these awkward moments  :D

Offline puntingking

Read my comment above and read how he was "gifted" Formula 1 rights.

I don't see it as gifted. He did have an interest in f1 and a career in f1..life its all about right place right time and who you know.

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He has a net worth of 2.5 billion GBP. So how can he be classified as an idiot or dickhead?

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He has a net worth of 2.5 billion GBP. So how can he be classified as an idiot or dickhead?

If I am an idiot and/or a dickhead tonight, and wake up tomorrow having won the Euromillions how am I not the same idiot/dickhead?

There seems to be this bizarre assumption that just because someone has acquired wealth or power, or has somehow fallen into same, that they are automatically some sort of genius. That's just total bollocks. History is littered with utter fools who acquired serious wealth or power by accident or through being ruthless.

If Bernie were truly bright he'd keep his mouth shut about his reprehensible views because he's just makig himself look like a right cunt. He really isn't very bright at all.
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Not really.
Look up the definition of the meaning of the word "idiot".

It means a person of low intelligence. 

He is a person who was a boss of F1 so he can't be a person of low intelligence so therefore he is not a idiot which by definition makes you more of a idiot than him "lower intelligence".

No offence..

Just pointing out the fact.  :hi:

None taken I'm a multi millionaire with a Masters in Mathematics which senile Bernie doesn't have :lol:
I'm not sure how once being boss of F1 excuses you from idiotic comments.
Having more money than somebody else doesn't mean you are smarter,just look at Putin.
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If I am an idiot and/or a dickhead tonight, and wake up tomorrow having won the Euromillions how am I not the same idiot/dickhead?

There seems to be this bizarre assumption that just because someone has acquired wealth or power, or has somehow fallen into same, that they are automatically some sort of genius. That's just total bollocks. History is littered with utter fools who acquired serious wealth or power by accident or through being ruthless.

If Bernie were truly bright he'd keep his mouth shut about his reprehensible views because he's just makig himself look like a right cunt. He really isn't very bright at all.

Bang on  :thumbsup:
I meet all sorts of rich people many of whom couldn't add 2+2.
Bernie is just a second hand car dealer that got lucky.
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Offline radioman33

Free speech he can say what he likes,found it an interesting watch.Hes a billionaire so obviously intelligent.He commented on nelson piquet aswell and was honest in his opinions.

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None taken I'm a multi millionaire with a Masters in Mathematics which senile Bernie doesn't have :lol:
I'm not sure how once being boss of F1 excuses you from idiotic comments.
Having more money than somebody else doesn't mean you are smarter,just look at Putin.

Or Donald Trump.

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Bernie is a rich dwarf but stupid as shite: a dinosaur 🦕 who needs to be extinct apart from that I like him lol
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Free speech he can say what he likes,found it an interesting watch.Hes a billionaire so obviously intelligent.He commented on nelson piquet aswell and was honest in his opinions.

See my post two above yours. One does not automatically follow the other.

He's never struck me as being particularly bright, to be honest, and his latest comments kind of prove that point.
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Offline King Nuts

An analogy I would never have thought of. 😂

Bernie is of course allowed his opinions, as we all are.
As for Putin being the good guy in all this.
I’m open ears.

There's another thread on this.

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After all there are a few other Putin fan boys on there.
 

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Offline tynetunnel

I've just put him on 'ignore' as his comments are just tiresome.

Exactly the reason I have you on ignore. Sadly when people quote you I still get to read what you typed, but it works for the most part

Offline King Nuts

Exactly the reason I have you on ignore. Sadly when people quote you I still get to read what you typed, but it works for the most part

What are you, nine years old?

You're obviously not ignoring me then.


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Predictably, everyone's piling in. He has a different opinion and thus must be an idiot/dickhead/cunt etc.

I s'pose if you liken the Ukraine situation to Mordor vs The Shire, then that opinion fits, and no more thought is required.

It sort of sums up what's wrong these days. 'You don't think like me, therefore you are an idiot, and I'm not going to bother listening to you'.

Yes everyone is allowed their own opinion, not sure why some name call when someone else thinks differently. Western media have brainwashed the public to believe the Ukraine situation is Mordor v The Shire.  :wacko:

Offline Stevelondon

What are you, nine years old?

You're obviously not ignoring me then.


He’s ignoring you mate. So why post that  :D :lol:

Offline Stevelondon

Yes everyone is allowed their own opinion, not sure why some name call when someone else thinks differently. Western media have brainwashed the public to believe the Ukraine situation is Mordor v The Shire.  :wacko:

I agree everyone is allowed their own opinion.
I disagree with you when you say I have been brainwashed. I have the ability to think for myself thank you very much.

Offline King Nuts

Yes everyone is allowed their own opinion, not sure why some name call when someone else thinks differently.

My mum and dad were political animals (hard Left.... yes, I know) and debate was always pretty lively in our house, and I don't remember any of these levels of personal denigration towards those with opposing views like we see and hear today.

I often wonder why this is, and I think that maybe it's because what could broadly be called progressive thinking has won pretty much every battle there was to fight. Comprehensive schools, drugs, abortion, homosexuality, same-sex marriage, internationalism, immigration... all the struggles have been won, but the cudgels haven't quite been put away.

The battle now isn't about getting legislation to support progressive issues. it's about framing all these issues in a moral context so that opponents can be deemed morally reprehensible and thereby cancelled, as we're now seeing with the likes of JK Rowling, and the unbelievably bitter response to her comments from people whose only justification for such abject mean-ness is that they have some sort of moral high ground.
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Offline Stevelondon

My mum and dad were political animals (hard Left.... yes, I know) and debate was always pretty lively in our house, and I don't remember any of these levels of personal denigration towards those with opposing views like we see and hear today.

I often wonder why this is, and I think that maybe it's because what could broadly be called progressive thinking has won pretty much every battle there was to fight. Comprehensive schools, drugs, abortion, homosexuality, same-sex marriage, internationalism, immigration... all the struggles have been won, but the cudgels haven't quite been put away.

The battle now isn't about getting legislation to support progressive issues. it's about framing all these issues in a moral context so that opponents can be deemed morally reprehensible and thereby cancelled, as we're now seeing with the likes of JK Rowling, and the unbelievably bitter response to her comments from people whose only justification for such abject mean-ness is that they have some sort of moral high ground.

It’s actually a well put together post that. I concur.

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Yes everyone is allowed their own opinion, not sure why some name call when someone else thinks differently. Western media have brainwashed the public to believe the Ukraine situation is Mordor v The Shire.  :wacko:

You state that like it is a fact.  Personally I do not buy the propaganda that we are brainwashed etc etc etc.  I am capable of forming my own view and tend to think that people who fall for the minority views are often the weak of thinking ones.  I have considered the evidence etc and I think it is fairly clear who is the evil fucker in the Russian/Ukraine conflict.

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I agree everyone is allowed their own opinion.
I disagree with you when you say I have been brainwashed. I have the ability to think for myself thank you very much.

Sorry had not read your post when I posted!!  I agree.

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My mum and dad were political animals (hard Left.... yes, I know) and debate was always pretty lively in our house, and I don't remember any of these levels of personal denigration towards those with opposing views like we see and hear today.

I often wonder why this is, and I think that maybe it's because what could broadly be called progressive thinking has won pretty much every battle there was to fight. Comprehensive schools, drugs, abortion, homosexuality, same-sex marriage, internationalism, immigration... all the struggles have been won, but the cudgels haven't quite been put away.

The battle now isn't about getting legislation to support progressive issues. it's about framing all these issues in a moral context so that opponents can be deemed morally reprehensible and thereby cancelled, as we're now seeing with the likes of JK Rowling, and the unbelievably bitter response to her comments from people whose only justification for such abject mean-ness is that they have some sort of moral high ground.

I agree with that.  I think there are groups of people for whom a cause (pick one of many) has been their reason for being, the source of their position, power etc.  The only way they achieve progression in their life is to have more battles to fight, speeches to make etc etc.  When they have "won" the main point instead of working on how to make life better for the group in question they find new enemies and nuances to keep fighting.  Great example is the gay rights movement who did a fantastic job and have won the main fight and should now be consolidating.  But no they move onto trans rights and do it in such an aggressive way that they are making life worse for that group, in my opinion.

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You state that like it is a fact.  Personally I do not buy the propaganda that we are brainwashed etc etc etc.  I am capable of forming my own view and tend to think that people who fall for the minority views are often the weak of thinking ones.  I have considered the evidence etc and I think it is fairly clear who is the evil fucker in the Russian/Ukraine conflict.

Terms like 'propaganda' and 'brainwashing' are emotive, and the words themselves loaded with inherent bias. We all like to think we can 'read' the media and form our own opinions without being told what to think, but a true understanding of the Ukraine situation requires a level of in-depth knowledge that few people have. I know I don't have it, but I learned something from this article which links the demise of the Cold War and the missed opportunities that arose from that, to the war in Ukraine:

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You state that like it is a fact.  Personally I do not buy the propaganda that we are brainwashed etc etc etc.  I am capable of forming my own view and tend to think that people who fall for the minority views are often the weak of thinking ones.  I have considered the evidence etc and I think it is fairly clear who is the evil fucker in the Russian/Ukraine conflict.

Every state uses propaganda, we only have to look at the lies told to us during the covid so called pandemic. I'm not one who throws out good and evil labels, ask yourself why overnight the west banned RT? if Russian propaganda was so ridiculous why would they be worried, and the crazy western media who have continued the narrative that Russia has been loosing and bogged down, until only the last few weeks they have had to now slowly change the story, Russia has taken Lysychansk, oh but they're still barely winning lol, External Link/Members Only on Youtube is worth a watch, he is one of only a few western military pundits to predict a Russian victory.

I'm one to agree with Professor Mearsheimer who is of the realist school of thought, he speaks about great powers politics, he puts the blame mostly on Washington's neo cons and Russian hating loons like Victoria Nuland External Link/Members Only

We can go all the way back to the 2007 Munich speech Putin made, where he told the crowd the end of the unipolar moment, he was pissing in their faces. The next year at the Nato Bucharest summit Bush wanted to announce Ukraine and Georgia would join Nato, both Sarkozy and Merkel were very much against this, but the US runs Nato and they got their way. Only a few months later the war in Georgia occurred. Russia will not allow Ukraine to join Nato, whether you believe a sovereign state has the right to or not.

At the moment Ukraine is a de-facto Nato army, it has been trained by Nato since 2014, at around 10,000 troops a year, one reason why tbf the UAF have given a good account, but the truth is Ukraine is taking unsustainable casualties in dead and wounded, the core of their professional cadre has been hollowed out, and the majority of their weapons have been lost, we are now seeing middle aged men on the battlefield, as Kiev sends territorial defence reservists, who are untrained and ill equipped. The US and Nato know that Ukraine can not win, but Washington is using them in their proxy war with Russia, they will fight Russia to the last Ukrainian!

And in the meantime people put Ukrainian flags on their profiles and we pay £2.00 per litre  :dash:

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Every state uses propaganda, we only have to look at the lies told to us during the covid so called pandemic.

For me you discredit yourself in the first sentence and it tells me a lot about your views and where you get them from.  There is a definition of a pandemic, covid was not a so called one. By lies I suspect you mean errors that were made assessing something we had never dealt with before. Unless you mean party gate in which case I would agree.

Later you casually dismiss the right of a sovereign nation to determine its own course.

Really? Get a grip.

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Every state uses propaganda, we only have to look at the lies told to us during the covid so called pandemic. I'm not one who throws out good and evil labels, ask yourself why overnight the west banned RT? if Russian propaganda was so ridiculous why would they be worried, and the crazy western media who have continued the narrative that Russia has been loosing and bogged down, until only the last few weeks they have had to now slowly change the story, Russia has taken Lysychansk, oh but they're still barely winning lol, External Link/Members Only on Youtube is worth a watch, he is one of only a few western military pundits to predict a Russian victory.



Not sure what “Western media” you’re reading if you get impression that they have been consistent and uniform predictions that Ukraine will win, and Russia will lose.

I read (not ultra carefully) Times, Telegraph and listen a lot to Radio 5. Really all those sources initially predicted a fairly quick Russian victory, and have all suggested if Russia is determined to grind away, it will ultimately “win” the military conflict.
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