Wimbledon and Radacanu

[lillythesavage]

And Radacanu is ???

😂😂😂

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[smiths]

One thing about Murray style of play. It takes a big physical toll on his body as he would go to extreme lengths to chase those returns.

Federer is just elegance man it's why he has lasted so much longer. Always in the right place  makes it look effortless sometimes.

Nadal is also a physical type player but I guess he is just built better.

Nadal is in extreme pain in 1 of his feet so he has said and takes injections. Murray over played when world number 1 to cash in while he could even more so and has never got back to the top since. But both have of course had years on the circuit. So at their level injury is always going to occur, its how serious it is that matters. And ageing simply takes its toll as has happened to Federer and Serena Williams.

[yonimax]

Me thinks Raducanu will cite some injuries, retire, get an Economics degree from one of the two unis and join some investment bank in the front office  or some wealth management type and live wealthy and happy ever after with some stints in BBC or US network  for Wimbledon and US open as perks. Or may be she will try again to win at Wimbledon (because Daddy wants her to) and then work in finance. The parents must have set out her plan A B C D etc already

[smiths]

I see Heather Watson lost today, like Tim Henman, a proven over many years to me bottle job who chockes when it matters. Yet Sue Barker who i like said she did well this year. NO getting to a final at least is what i call doing well.

This is why i rate Murray so much, he was under immense pressure but overcame it in 2013 to win, then backed that up again in 2016. Also he hasnt the talent of the big 3 but still won 3 Grand Slams and 2 Olympic Golds.

Cam Norrie is playing very well and i hope he goes far this year. As to Radacanu she isnt fit enough like Murray wasnt at her age, but she did win a Major so good for her. But has been dire since. With the right dedication i believe she could win more Majors, but does she really have that dedication.

[jeanphillipe]

And Radacanu is ???

😂😂😂

For a female tennis player shes ok . Not top ten though not even top 20

[mills_and_bhuna]

I see Heather Watson lost today, like Tim Henman, a proven over many years to me bottle job who chockes when it matters. Yet Sue Barker who i like said she did well this year. NO getting to a final at least is what i call doing well.

This is why i rate Murray so much, he was under immense pressure but overcame it in 2013 to win, then backed that up again in 2016. Also he hasnt the talent of the big 3 but still won 3 Grand Slams and 2 Olympic Golds.

Cam Norrie is playing very well and i hope he goes far this year. As to Radacanu she isnt fit enough like Murray wasnt at her age, but she did win a Major so good for her. But has been dire since. With the right dedication i believe she could win more Majors, but does she really have that dedication.

hardly a bottle job .
Heather Watson has probably achieved about as much as she was ever going to achieve.
She's only around 5'6" so a bit of a disadvantage in serving .
She's actually won a couple of titles but you give the impression that you think tennis begins and ends in SW19 so no surprise you don't know anything about tennis.
99% of professional women's tennis players can only dream of reaching the last 16 at Wimbledon or taking Serena to a deciding set in her prime.

[Watts.E.Dunn]

Read an interesting article today written by John McEnroe with Tim Henman who say that Raducanu if she'd take a bit of time getting her core strength to where it ought be, got a coach and keep him her would, in McEnroes opinion, we'd see one of the best, if not the best Female player around!

But whats Mr McEnroe know;?...

[hermanmunster]

Read an interesting article today written by John McEnroe with Tim Henman who say that Raducanu if she'd take a bit of time getting her core strength to where it ought be, got a coach and keep him her would, in McEnroes opinion, we'd see one of the best, if not the best Female player around!

But whats Mr McEnroe know;?...

Most tennis fans can see that, but not Mr Raducanu nor Miss Raducanu. Such a shame - hopefully she won't have an unfulfilled career because of this attitude.

[lillythesavage]

Read an interesting article today written by John McEnroe with Tim Henman who say that Raducanu if she'd take a bit of time getting her core strength to where it ought be, got a coach and keep him her would, in McEnroes opinion, we'd see one of the best, if not the best Female player around!

But whats Mr McEnroe know;?...

Seems just like a Romanian hooker, promises so much, looks the part, but really cannot be arsed 

[Landscape]

hardly a bottle job .
Heather Watson has probably achieved about as much as she was ever going to achieve.
She's only around 5'6" so a bit of a disadvantage in serving .
She's actually won a couple of titles but you give the impression that you think tennis begins and ends in SW19 so no surprise you don't know anything about tennis.
99% of professional women's tennis players can only dream of reaching the last 16 at Wimbledon or taking Serena to a deciding set in her prime.

Not forgetting that she has also won a grand slam title in the mixed doubles at Wimbledon and reached the final of the same tournament the year afterwards.

[smiths]

hardly a bottle job .
Heather Watson has probably achieved about as much as she was ever going to achieve.
She's only around 5'6" so a bit of a disadvantage in serving .
She's actually won a couple of titles but you give the impression that you think tennis begins and ends in SW19 so no surprise you don't know anything about tennis.
99% of professional women's tennis players can only dream of reaching the last 16 at Wimbledon or taking Serena to a deciding set in her prime.

 What i know about Tennis is the amount i choose to know. Your you dont know anything about it is your view and that is up to you.

[smiths]

Read an interesting article today written by John McEnroe with Tim Henman who say that Raducanu if she'd take a bit of time getting her core strength to where it ought be, got a coach and keep him her would, in McEnroes opinion, we'd see one of the best, if not the best Female player around!

But whats Mr McEnroe know;?...

 I agree with them, and this is what Murray did back in his younger days, strengening his core and everything else and it paid off as we know.

[Malvolio]

hardly a bottle job .
Heather Watson has probably achieved about as much as she was ever going to achieve.
She's only around 5'6" so a bit of a disadvantage in serving .
She's actually won a couple of titles but you give the impression that you think tennis begins and ends in SW19 so no surprise you don't know anything about tennis.
99% of professional women's tennis players can only dream of reaching the last 16 at Wimbledon or taking Serena to a deciding set in her prime.

This implies there are 1600 current professional female tennis players - that number is clearly too high.

Watson's had a decent career with four career titles and earnings of over $4.7 million.

[mills_and_bhuna]

What i know about Tennis is the amount i choose to know. Your you dont know anything about it is your view and that is up to you.

but you choose to pontificate from your know it all perch.
I was merely venturing my opinion that you're like the fat guy standing at the bar who was last pick at primary school in the coats down game at the park but is the oracle when it comes to debating the respective merits of Neymar and Pirlo.

[mills_and_bhuna]

This implies there are 1600 current professional female tennis players - that number is clearly too high.

Watson's had a decent career with four career titles and earnings of over $4.7 million.

The WTA rankings go up to 1000 or so.
There is also the challenger and ITF tours.
I was making the point that thousands of young women at any one time have aspirations of a career in tennis.
Some have injury problems.
Some have funding problems.
A bit like any sport at elite level.
It can be brutal and I take my hat off to anyone who reaches anywhere near Heather Watson's level.
And still come across as a thoroughly nice person.
I always find it amusing when armchair athletes feel the need to share their wisdom.

[smiths]

but you choose to pontificate from your know it all perch.
I was merely venturing my opinion that you're like the fat guy standing at the bar who was last pick at primary school in the coats down game at the park but is the oracle when it comes to debating the respective merits of Neymar and Pirlo.

I choose to post what i want, as you do. The beauty of a forum.

[Ali Katt]

She's too busy shagging Chinese billionaires.

[mills_and_bhuna]

I choose to post what i want, as you do. The beauty of a forum.

agreed

[mills_and_bhuna]

She's too busy shagging Chinese billionaires.

it's certainly easier work than staying in the top ten

[Bummer]

Who is ?  Lucky bastard lol

[Malvolio]

The WTA rankings go up to 1000 or so.
There is also the challenger and ITF tours.
I was making the point that thousands of young women at any one time have aspirations of a career in tennis.
Some have injury problems.
Some have funding problems.
A bit like any sport at elite level.
It can be brutal and I take my hat off to anyone who reaches anywhere near Heather Watson's level.
And still come across as a thoroughly nice person.
I always find it amusing when armchair athletes feel the need to share their wisdom.

Anyone with a ranking below 200 will be putting in hard slog on the ITF tour (the Challenger tour is for men).

You're right to say that tennis is a very tough sport to succeed in as there's not much room at the top - the 200th best footballer in the Premier League will be earning millions each year, whilst the 200th best tennis player in the world is playing tournaments where one man and his dog turns up to watch and will need funding from some source to be able to afford the constant travel.

I'd speculate it's harder to make it into the female top 200 as it's the best paying sport for women, so more women will be having a go at it.

[smiths]

Sad to hear Nadal has withdrawn from tomorrows Semi with an injury. Kyrios is now in the final.

[MissWolf]

Sad to hear Nadal has withdrawn from tomorrows Semi with an injury. Kyrios is now in the final.

I find this really annoying,  I get he's an exceptional plater but he knew he was injured yesterday and I would hazard a guess that he knew he would have to retire from the tournament so apart from proving he can and saving face what good did he do by playing on yesterday aagainst the young American.

He could have retired hurt at 2 all yesterday and given the American a shot at the semi finals and the crowd a match to watch, he's done neither a service IMO and should have been the bigger man.

[lamboman]

Sad to hear Nadal has withdrawn from tomorrows Semi with an injury. Kyrios is now in the final.

I'm no fan of Djoker but I hope he gives that Aussie prick a thrashing.
As for Rafa apart from the over 200k he would have given up by retiring in the quarters he was obviously going to give himself every chance to play today.
The problem really is that tennis only allows lucky losers in the last qualifying round.

[hermanmunster]

An interesting comparison between Raducanu and Norrie - Norrie has had the same coach for 7 years.

Re Nadal, surely if he had announced early enough that he was unable to play in the semi-final then Fritz could have automatically been put through. Surely there should always be a player moving through to the semi final from the quarter final?

[hermanmunster]

I'm no fan of Djoker but I hope he gives that Aussie prick a thrashing.

Couldn't agree more. The "Aussie prick" is the Ronnie O'Sullivan of tennis - showing no respect to the sports authorities, his opponents or the fans.  Always playing the victim.

[smiths]

I'm no fan of Djoker but I hope he gives that Aussie prick a thrashing.
As for Rafa apart from the over 200k he would have given up by retiring in the quarters he was obviously going to give himself every chance to play today.
The problem really is that tennis only allows lucky losers in the last qualifying round.

Nadal was on for a grand slam so i assume he sought as much medical advice as he could so he could play today but sadly simply couldnt. I dont blame him for not giving up in his match against Fritz. At that stage he may have still had hope he could be medically fit to play today.

[smiths]

I find this really annoying,  I get he's an exceptional plater but he knew he was injured yesterday and I would hazard a guess that he knew he would have to retire from the tournament so apart from proving he can and saving face what good did he do by playing on yesterday aagainst the young American.

He could have retired hurt at 2 all yesterday and given the American a shot at the semi finals and the crowd a match to watch, he's done neither a service IMO and should have been the bigger man.

And i would bet he wasnt certain he wouldnt be able to play today so sought medical advice to do all he could to be able to play. He beat Fritz fair and square so to my mind Fritz doesnt deserve to be in the final. It is a shame though that there is only going to be 1 semi-final but at least Norrie is in it. He will have to play at his top level to beat Djokovic but he might not be playing his best so Norrie has a chance.

[SpaceRaiderDave]

...........He could have retired hurt at 2 all yesterday and given the American a shot at the semi finals and the crowd a match to watch, he's done neither a service IMO and should have been the bigger man.

I agree 100% with the last two posts from Smiths but would also add that if he retired at 2:2 after already playing on from the initial injury then there would be posts today saying he shouldn't have given it a go as there was a Wimbledon semi final place at stake. Rafa is a true sportsman and winning was his focus and he (rightly) believed he could still win.

[lostandfound]

An interesting comparison between Raducanu and Norrie - Norrie has had the same coach for 7 years.

Re Nadal, surely if he had announced early enough that he was unable to play in the semi-final then Fritz could have automatically been put through. Surely there should always be a player moving through to the semi final from the quarter final?

He's also strong as an ox - exceptional even by tennis player standards - and 7 years older than her.

Maybe a fairer comparison against Norrie as he is now would be Raducanu when she is 26?

[smiths]

He's also strong as an ox - exceptional even by tennis player standards - and 7 years older than her.

Maybe a fairer comparison against Norrie as he is now would be Raducanu when she is 26?

Norrie has worked extremely hard as Murray did on his endurance and overall fitness, now he is super fit. Radacanu is like Murray at the sart of his career, not fit enough in my view having watched her. But unlike Murray she did win a Major. I question her dedication at present whereas i never doubted Murrays which paid off in a really tough era to a degree that is, unfortunately for him he had 3 all time greats up against him for most of the time.

[lostandfound]

Norrie has worked extremely hard as Murray did on his endurance and overall fitness, now he is super fit. Radacanu is like Murray at the sart of his career, not fit enough in my view having watched her. But unlike Murray she did win a Major. I question her dedication at present whereas i never doubted Murrays which paid off in a really tough era to a degree that is, unfortunately for him he had 3 all time greats up against him for most of the time.

As I think you imply, She is also at the start of her career. Hopefully in time she'll have good coaching and build up her strength and fitness?

[smiths]

As I think you imply, She is also at the start of her career. Hopefully in time she'll have good coaching and build up her strength and fitness?

Yes i hope so, a really top player will be at their peak in their mid-20s, and nowadays due to their fitness regimes can be at the top as the top 3 have been well into their 30s so she has plenty of time. Murray built up his fitness and endurance, no reason she couldnt do the same if thats what she wants. The question is is that what she wants, and i dont know the answer to that.

Murray has a burning desire to get back to the top, he is of course a multi-millionaire and never needs to play again but wants to. IMO his time has gone as he crocked himself to much playing too much when he was world number 1 cashing in while he could. I dont blame him for doing so but it fucked his body up and he has never recovered singles tennis wise sadly as i see it. If she has his dedication she has the talent to win Majors again i think.

[southcoastpunter]

Yes i hope so, a really top player will be at their peak in their mid-20s, and nowadays due to their fitness regimes can be at the top as the top 3 have been well into their 30s so she has plenty of time. Murray built up his fitness and endurance, no reason she couldnt do the same if thats what she wants. The question is is that what she wants, and i dont know the answer to that.

that is THE question. Not so sure it is at this time. If she does, she should be mindful that the world number one lady is aged 21. so she needs to concentrate and work hard NOW.

[smiths]

that is THE question. Not so sure it is at this time. If she does, she should be mindful that the world number one lady is aged 21. so she needs to concentrate and work hard NOW.

I certainly agree with you.

[mills_and_bhuna]

Couldn't agree more. The "Aussie prick" is the Ronnie O'Sullivan of tennis - showing no respect to the sports authorities, his opponents or the fans.  Always playing the victim.

It's going to be a hard pick for the pearl clutchers and blue rinses this year then.
Novak (probably) and Nick in the final.
Maybe better not have anyone in the royal box in case decorum is breached

[mills_and_bhuna]

Looking forward to the finals.
I'd love to see Jabeur win just because she's so different and unorthodox.
Despite the seedings I think Rybakina might be a slight favourite because she did look impressive against Halep.
Jabeur doesn't give you the same ball twice in a row though so it'll be interesting to see the contrast.
I'm not too bothered who wins the men's but hopefully a five set classic.
Nole does look imperious though.
It's like he plays in second gear until he feels under pressure and then he flicks a switch.
He's never beaten Kyrgios though

[Bummer]

The russian winner sorry nor russian winner was a totally emotionless girl : quite odd
 

[mills_and_bhuna]

The russian winner sorry nor russian winner was a totally emotionless girl : quite odd

she was a bit stunned.
She broke down a bit at the post match press conference when she was asked about her mum and dad.
These 'journalists' are a joke though.I
Asking a 23 year old girl still a bit shellshocked after winning her first grand slam 'do you condemn the Russian invasion of Ukraine ?'.
He'll probably get a medal himself for that one.
Fucking embarrassing.

[Bummer]

she was a bit stunned.
She broke down a bit at the post match press conference when she was asked about her mum and dad.
These 'journalists' are a joke though.I
Asking a 23 year old girl still a bit shellshocked after winning her first grand slam 'do you condemn the Russian invasion of Ukraine ?'.
He'll probably get a medal himself for that one.
Fucking embarrassing.

100% agree another journo trying to make a name for himself ... in this case a complete  Pratt

[MrMatrix]

she was a bit stunned.
She broke down a bit at the post match press conference when she was asked about her mum and dad.
These 'journalists' are a joke though.I
Asking a 23 year old girl still a bit shellshocked after winning her first grand slam 'do you condemn the Russian invasion of Ukraine ?'.
He'll probably get a medal himself for that one.
Fucking embarrassing.

Seriously a journalist asked her that. Thats deplorable.

[PumpDump]

Looking forward to seeing Raducanu on SA 

[mills_and_bhuna]

Looking forward to seeing Raducanu on SA 

You'll need deep pockets to be a sugar daddy for a GS winner