Good Luck to You, Leo Grande

[ik8133]

Anybody seen this film yet starring Emma Thompson, about a woman who hires a male escort?

Haven't see it myself, but was reading an article on it and Emma Thompson's character had a list of services what she wanted to do, wasn't too dissimilar to what I look for. 

[radioman33]

It looks ok having seen the trailer of her reading out her list of likes for meet.Im not keen on her she was a climate protester on the boat put in the road in London.

[King Nuts]

I wouldn't pay money to see anything with her in it, on principle. I don't doubt for one second that she's in on box office receipts and/or profits.

She stands for everything I disagree with.

[mr.bluesky]

Shouldn't this be in the movies, tv, films thread 

[ik8133]

Shouldn't this be in the movies, tv, films thread 

Move it there if you want, I just did it in a separate thread as it was punting related.

[RedKettle]

I assumed, not sure why, that this was a really old film she did before famous - have just watched the trailer and realised it is new release!  Actually looks quite funny.

[RedKettle]

I wouldn't pay money to see anything with her in it, on principle. I don't doubt for one second that she's in on box office receipts and/or profits.

She stands for everything I disagree with.

She seems like a perfectly nice person to me.  Like most of us not perfect.  Sometimes I think you need to unclench. 

[dexpunt]

I watched it the other day on VHMOVIES for free. Pretty average movie and right at the end Emma Thompson drops her robe for a full frontal shot. She's 62 so think on that before you watch

[ulstersubbie]

I watched it the other day on VHMOVIES for free. Pretty average movie and right at the end Emma Thompson drops her robe for a full frontal shot. She's 62 so think on that before you watch

Charlotte Rampling was 57 when she did a full frontal shot for Swimming Pool in 2003, no complaints from me at the time.   

[JontyR]

I wouldn't pay money to see anything with her in it, on principle.

That principle being?

I don't doubt for one second that she's in on box office receipts and/or profits.

What a strange thing to say. It is said in a disparaging fashion, therefore if it is untrue it is libel. Personally I don't see what the issue is, I'm sure she meets her obligations?

She stands for everything I disagree with.

So you are in favour of, amongst other things, :

• torture,
• stopping the provision books by charities to those underprivileged and uanble to get them,
• shooting refugees fleeing conflict,
• increasing the spread of HIV/AIDS in Africa by the deliberate spreading of misinformation,
• the rape of vulnerable young women specifically and children generally across the globe,
• ensuring no provision of therapy to those suffering the effects of domestic abuse, 
• stopping the provision of meals and educational settings to 400,000 children daily.

I'm guessing Emma Thompson if she were a member here for the last seven years would also write reviews. 

[lamboman]

That principle being?
What a strange thing to say. It is said in a disparaging fashion, therefore if it is untrue it is libel. Personally I don't see what the issue is, I'm sure she meets her obligations?

So you are in favour of, amongst other things, :

• torture,
• stopping the provision books by charities to those underprivileged and uanble to get them,
• shooting refugees fleeing conflict,
• increasing the spread of HIV/AIDS in Africa by the deliberate spreading of misinformation,
• the rape of vulnerable young women specifically and children generally across the globe,
• ensuring no provision of therapy to those suffering the effects of domestic abuse, 
• stopping the provision of meals and educational settings to 400,000 children daily.

I'm guessing Emma Thompson if she were a member here for the last seven years would also write reviews.

I think he may be alluding to her hectoring on green issues and supporting insulate Britain whilst simultaneously jetting across the globe promoting her shit films.
The Seb Vettel of acting.

[JontyR]

I think he may be alluding to her hectoring on green issues and supporting insulate Britain whilst simultaneously jetting across the globe promoting her shit films.
The Seb Vettel of acting.

He could also be pointing out someone using her position and privilege to try and foster positive change and raise awareness of significant issues faced by those that do not have that platform. That seems to be something he stands against.

[scutty brown]

I watched it the other day on VHMOVIES for free. Pretty average movie and right at the end Emma Thompson drops her robe for a full frontal shot. She's 62 so think on that before you watch

shaven or unshaven?

[lamboman]

He could also be pointing out someone using her position and privilege to try and foster positive change and raise awareness of significant issues faced by those that do not have that platform. That seems to be something he stands against.

I also stand against hypocrites that preach one thing whilst doing the exact opposite.
I've a car that does 10mpg another that does 15mpg and the best one I have does 22mpg but I don't go around preaching to people to save fuel,if she actually believed any of that bullshit she wouldn't fly.

[JontyR]

I also stand against hypocrites that preach one thing whilst doing the exact opposite.
I've a car that does 10mpg another that does 15mpg and the best one I have does 22mpg but I don't go around preaching to people to save fuel,if she actually believed any of that bullshit she wouldn't fly.

But she's never turned round and said airflight should be banned has she?

[Matrix]

It looks ok having seen the trailer of her reading out her list of likes for meet.Im not keen on her she was a climate protester on the boat put in the road in London.

Worse than that, she signed a petition in support of child rapist Roman Polanski, whilst at the same time condemning Weinstein, who at the time hadn't even been charged for anything (yes, he too is a slimy cunt).

She retracted it after having her hypocrisy pointed out to her by the BBC, of all entities. They've always been strongly against the abuse of kids, in the entertainment industry especially...

[Matrix]

• the rape of vulnerable young women specifically and children generally across the globe,

Turns out she supports, or at least did, the rape of children. 

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Lots of other sources.

Classy.

[JontyR]

Turns out she supports, or at least did, the rape of children. 

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Classy.

No she didn't. If you read the articles, she signed, along with many others, a petition around the arrest of Roman Polanski. She then was taken to task by someone who had requested to speak to her. After which she admitted that she had been "absolutely bamboozled by his art" and withdrew her support.

How many would have listened to others? How many would be prepared to admit a mistake? How many would change their mind?

Did Harrison Ford? Martin Scorcese? Wes Anderson? David Lynch? Are you lining up against them?

Natalie Portman, Xavier Dolan and Asia Argento did express their regret at signing it but not for nearly a decade later.

Yeah, it was a crass unthinking move to sign it. But at least she admitted it and has done much in the field since.

[Matrix]

No she didn't. If you read the articles, she signed, along with many others, a petition around the arrest of Roman Polanski. She then was taken to task by someone who had requested to speak to her. After which she admitted that she had been "absolutely bamboozled by his art" and withdrew her support.

How many would have listened to others? How many would be prepared to admit a mistake? How many would change their mind?

Did Harrison Ford? Martin Scorcese? Wes Anderson? David Lynch? Are you lining up against them?

Natalie Portman, Xavier Dolan and Asia Argento did express their regret at signing it but not for nearly a decade later.

Yeah, it was a crass unthinking move to sign it. But at least she admitted it and has done much in the field since.

The thread is about E.T, so nice try. Yes, I'd say they're all nasty vacuous cunts too, if they think raping a 13 year old is acceptable, but that's the entertainment industry.

You've also just confirmed that she was well aware that she signed the petition of someone who's admitted to molesting a child. 

I'm sure you'd offer the same excuse to someone that you didn't feel politically aligned to.

[JontyR]

You've also just confirmed that she was well aware that she signed the petition of someone who's admitted to molesting a child. 

I don't know if she knew he was someone who had admitted that.

I'm sure you'd offer the same excuse to someone that you didn't feel politically aligned to.

Actually I would. I find the whole doubling-down on incorrect things really strange. There seems to be an abhorrance to someone admitting they are wrong, its something I do not share. Actually you may find posts of mine that suggest that I am willing to be wrong on an issue or change my mind if someone can come up with contrary evidence.

[Matrix]

Then perhaps you should read up on the case. He accepted a lesser charge as a plea bargin. I.E admitted to plying a 13 year old with drink and drugs then anally raping her. Then promptly fucked off as soon as it was retracted by the judge. Fled back to France via, London as they don't extradite until the case has been heard.

Common knowledge since the 70s and is the sole reason he was stopped in Switzerland.

Rather difficult to imagine that someone as intelligent as her being so incredibly naive. An actress of her standing having no knowledge on this is frankly ridiculous.

Wouldn't you at least enquire as to why the person you're supporting had been arrested?

She should be in politics.

[JontyR]

Common knowledge since the 70s and is the sole reason he was stopped in Switzerland.

Don't know how old you are, but i hadn't even started school when this happened. It was 22 years later, in 2009, when the Swiss arrest happened.

Rather difficult to imagine that someone as intelligent as her being so incredibly naive. An actress of her standing having no knowledge on this is frankly ridiculous.

Luc Besson, same age as Thompson, who's daughters played with Polanski's children,  a film director himself said he knew little of the background of the case. He didn't back the petition but it shows that it isn't necessarily as widely known as you may think or portray.

Wouldn't you at least enquire as to why the person you're supporting had been arrested?

Yep. I would. And I think if she had her time again she would too. I think it was at best naive. More likely ill-conceived.

But are you genuinely suggesting that it "Turns out she supports, or at least did, the rape of children."

It is interesting that the wikipedia page on her talks of her activism and it mainly highlights activities after 2009, maybe this incident was the driver for her more progressive, positive and more public activities?

[LLPunting]

The movie was a low-profile two-hander, more a teleplay.

Emma was adequate in the role but not really taxed by it to show any deep characterisation, any number of her previous characters were present in this performance including the one from Love Actually.

The most puzzling casting was for Leo with the role going to a feminine-looking pretty boy with effeminate movement traits and voice and whose character was given a  sensitivity all too easily triggered by her over earnest probing into private matters that we'd all get slammed for on SAAFE.  The type who might be suspected of not being entirely hetero in RL or character like that Rege-Jean bloke that was so popular this past year or so.

The denouement at the end was warts and all, she was unshaved and accepting of the ravages on her body by motherhood moreso than age.  Her boobs still look good though and her legs have always been shapely, but they've not really been hidden all these years.  The lighting and makeup was also complimentary to her wrinkles and twinkles.

[King Nuts]

She seems like a perfectly nice person to me.  Like most of us not perfect.  Sometimes I think you need to unclench. 

I daresay she's a perfectly kind and decent human being, but when I read her comments about Britain and all the other crap she's come out with, and knowing how the film production industry actually works, and who gets paid what, I see a hypocrite and a champagne socialist. There's no clenching going on, just an observation.

Normally I don't let a person's political beliefs get in the way of enjoying their art. Like Billy Bragg. I don't agree with him on anything, but his songwriting and more particularly his lyric writing is sublime and right up there with the best poets of the 20th century. I am genuinely moved by some of his work.

But actors? Pah! They're always banging on about diversity and equality, but are quite happy to accept 100k+ a week for 'acting' in some poxy film while some of the crew are lucky to see 1/100th of that amount.

[dexpunt]

shaven or unshaven?

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[Stevelondon]

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For arts sake…… I suppose.

[RedKettle]

I find the whole doubling-down on incorrect things really strange. There seems to be an abhorrance to someone admitting they are wrong, its something I do not share. Actually you may find posts of mine that suggest that I am willing to be wrong on an issue or change my mind if someone can come up with contrary evidence.

I think it is partly a lack of confidence some people have in themselves. I recently said on a thread that I was not familiar with something that happened 20 odd years ago and a member was jumping up and down that I was ignorant, an ignoramus etc etc. I have no problem saying I was wrong or mistaken or that there are subjects I do not know about. I am very confident about myself intellectually, although riven with anxiety about myself physically! I got the impression from that person’s posting that he was incredibly insecure and needed the sort of behaviour you see in the playground to convince himself.

Also people look for the slightest excuse to tear into someone, especially someone famous and successful. That often looks like envy.

[Matrix]

Don't know how old you are, but i hadn't even started school when this happened. It was 22 years later, in 2009, when the Swiss arrest happened.
Luc Besson, same age as Thompson, who's daughters played with Polanski's children,  a film director himself said he knew little of the background of the case. He didn't back the petition but it shows that it isn't necessarily as widely known as you may think or portray.
Yep. I would. And I think if she had her time again she would too. I think it was at best naive. More likely ill-conceived.

But are you genuinely suggesting that it "Turns out she supports, or at least did, the rape of children."

It is interesting that the wikipedia page on her talks of her activism and it mainly highlights activities after 2009, maybe this incident was the driver for her more progressive, positive and more public activities?
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I'm younger than you and I heard about it primary school,  back in the 80s.

She advocates against rape, condemn a guy that hadn't been charged but supporterd a self confessed rapist. Fact.

[JontyR]

I'm younger than you and I heard about it primary school,  back in the 80s.

You talked about Roman Polanski and his flight to Europe whilst at Primary School?

What lesson was this in? Double Noncing?

[Matrix]

You talked about Roman Polanski and his flight to Europe whilst at Primary School?

What lesson was this in? Double Noncing?

Sorry on the phone and it's pissing down. Could've written that better.

You may not have heard about it as a child. I certainly dd.

Emma T certainly knew about it.  That's the clincher.

As for Mr T pot, folk can list her good points, folk can list her bad points.

[JontyR]

Sorry on the phone and it's pissing down. Could've written that better.

No worries. I worked out what you were trying to say hence the reformatting of the quote.

Emma T certainly knew about it.  That's the clincher.

For me the clincher is she removed her name, and quickly too. It's not been repeated. And she's used her platform to address so many of these matters since. Including the matter of therapeutic support for victims which I think is something that we are shamefully short of spending far more on the incarceration of the guilty than the support of the traumatised. 

[Matrix]

No worries. I worked out what you were trying to say hence the reformatting of the quote.
For me the clincher is she removed her name, and quickly too. It's not been repeated. And she's used her platform to address so many of these matters since. Including the matter of therapeutic support for victims which I think is something that we are shamefully short of spending far more on the incarceration of the guilty than the support of the traumatised.

I get what you're saying. The point being she should never have backed him in the first place. You listed positives. This was definitely a negative.

I don't think I'd get very far backing Gary Glitter. Well unless I wanted into politics or showbusiness. 

Hollywood is clearly a cesspit.

[NightKid]

The most puzzling casting was for Leo with the role going to a feminine-looking pretty boy with effeminate movement traits and voice and whose character was given a  sensitivity all too easily triggered by her over earnest probing into private matters that we'd all get slammed for on SAAFE.  The type who might be suspected of not being entirely hetero in RL or character like that Rege-Jean bloke that was so popular this past year or so.

I'd suspect said effeminacy would serve him well also in the event he's bisexual and able to cater to the gay market, which we know is far more likely for a male escort. Additionally, I do find the triggering believable/agreeable considering she crossed a boundary that was stated clearly at the start before proceedings.

In reference to your comment about getting slammed on SAAFE though, I have the same gripe regarding how they still carried on despite said boundary crossing having happened so that affability is obviously unrealistic and a mischaracterisation imo.