Governing body makes right decision

[king tarzan]

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I'm all for rights of women... Good decision for fair and square.
Campaign won by Sharon Davies based on scientific research..

[Stevelondon]

Fucking ridiculous state of affairs is this.
I mean have you seen some of these change sex men who compete against ( born) females.

It’s this political correct/woke…….. let’s not upset anyone mentality that makes the subject so complicated.
It isn’t. Really it isn’t. If your born a man your still a man wether you have no balls and cock cos you decided in your head your a woman.

It’s a bit blunt of me to say stuff like that I know. But this whole idea of transgender men competing in sport against real women just gets up my nose.
What next. Some sex changed person in the boxing ring with a female boxer.

I have no problems at all about someone’s so called gender preferences. But on this topic let’s be sensible shall we.

[king tarzan]

Fucking ridiculous state of affairs is this.
I mean have you seen some of these change sex men who compete against ( born) females.

It’s this political correct/woke…….. let’s not upset anyone mentality that makes the subject so complicated.
It isn’t. Really it isn’t. If your born a man your still a man wether you have no balls and cock cos you decided in your head your a woman.

It’s a bit blunt of me to say stuff like that I know. But this whole idea of transgender men competing in sport against real women just gets up my nose.
What next. Some sex changed person in the boxing ring with a female boxer.

I have no problems at all about someone’s so called gender preferences. But on this topic let’s be sensible shall we.

Harriet Kane or Rihanna sterling??

[Stevelondon]

Let’s suggest that if Roger Federer had changed sex. Would he have won less grand slams?
Competing against women I mean.


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[jackdaw]

I think too often we come at issues like transgender rights from the stance of trying to prevent a few people abusing potential legislation rather than doing whatever we can do to help decent people.

Realistically almost no one is going to transition from man to woman just to gain an unfair advantage in sports events. Transitioning is an incredibly hard and brave thing to do, people who do it, basically do it because they have a sincere belief.

Several sporting authorities take the line that trans women can compete at elite level IF there is reasonable evidence that adjustments (like hormone therapy) can make the competition reasonably fair. I think that’s the most humane and balanced approach.

But…it’s easy for me to say that. I’m not an elite woman athlete whose career may be affected. (It would be interesting to know how many of the organisations making these decisions affecting womens careers are largely controlled by men.)

[Steely Dan]

I'm all for trans rights.  But of all the occupations on the planet, do they have to pick the one or two that lead to these discussions?

Saying that people wont do this just to win unfairly might not be true.  People are crazy.

[Bornslippy]

The left is becoming tiresome. Let's not forget that these people are the minority. if you have an opinion that questions, or goes against the pushed/forced narrative, then you are shouted, hounded, screamed at, and made to feel that you are an evil bigot.
Well done Sharon Davies.
in my bigoted, evil mind, the only sexes are: Male, Female, or fucking weird

[king tarzan]

The left is becoming tiresome. Let's not forget that these people are the minority. if you have an opinion that questions, or goes against the pushed/forced narrative, then you are shouted, hounded, screamed at, and made to feel that you are an evil bigot.
Well done Sharon Davies.
in my bigoted, evil mind, the only sexes are: Male, Female, or fucking weird

Yes I purely 100% agree with you..
I won't say anymore than that..
I would love to, but best not to...

[Gordon Bennett]

I think too often we come at issues like transgender rights from the stance of trying to prevent a few people abusing potential legislation rather than doing whatever we can do to help decent people.

Realistically almost no one is going to transition from man to woman just to gain an unfair advantage in sports events. Transitioning is an incredibly hard and brave thing to do, people who do it, basically do it because they have a sincere belief.

Several sporting authorities take the line that trans women can compete at elite level IF there is reasonable evidence that adjustments (like hormone therapy) can make the competition reasonably fair. I think that’s the most humane and balanced approach.

But…it’s easy for me to say that. I’m not an elite woman athlete whose career may be affected. (It would be interesting to know how many of the organisations making these decisions affecting womens careers are largely controlled by men.)

You answered your own question when you said "decent people"....

What sort of 6'4" 17 stone cunt decides they want to go and pummell genetic females in high level sporting events? They are NOT decent people, they are fucked up attention seeking narcissists. To be clear, I'm talking about these clowns that want to turn their cocks inside out and then bash up women at sport - not folks who wish to make sensible and necessary adjustments, compromises and lifestyle choices that will facilitate them transitioning smoothly into their new gender and easily assimilating into that world.

[Blackpool Rock]

The left is becoming tiresome. Let's not forget that these people are the minority. if you have an opinion that questions, or goes against the pushed/forced narrative, then you are shouted, hounded, screamed at, and made to feel that you are an evil bigot.
Well done Sharon Davies.
in my bigoted, evil mind, the only sexes are: Male, Female, or fucking weird

But is it "The left" or actually the more extreme Libertarians 

[Stevelondon]

I think too often we come at issues like transgender rights from the stance of trying to prevent a few people abusing potential legislation rather than doing whatever we can do to help decent people.

Realistically almost no one is going to transition from man to woman just to gain an unfair advantage in sports events. Transitioning is an incredibly hard and brave thing to do, people who do it, basically do it because they have a sincere belief.

you never know.
Several sporting authorities take the line that trans women can compete at elite level IF there is reasonable evidence that adjustments (like hormone therapy) can make the competition reasonably fair. I think that’s the most humane and balanced approach.

But…it’s easy for me to say that. I’m not an elite woman athlete whose career may be affected. (It would be interesting to know how many of the organisations making these decisions affecting womens careers are largely controlled by men.)

[Thephoenix]

I feel so sorry for the women who've missed out on Olympic medals
I've always been a keen fan of athletics, and just watching those athletes who have won events unfairly against women who have dedicated their lives only to see those hopes dashed by the likes of Caster Semenya, an intersex person with XY chromosomes, elevated testosterone levels and internal testes.
What must they feel like when they see her so far ahead?


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[anyfucker]

The left is becoming tiresome. Let's not forget that these people are the minority. if you have an opinion that questions, or goes against the pushed/forced narrative, then you are shouted, hounded, screamed at, and made to feel that you are an evil bigot.
Well done Sharon Davies.
in my bigoted, evil mind, the only sexes are: Male, Female, or fucking weird

+1

[mills_and_bhuna]

I'm all for trans rights.  But of all the occupations on the planet, do they have to pick the one or two that lead to these discussions?

Saying that people wont do this just to win unfairly might not be true.  People are crazy.

I've got to agree with the decision made.
But the words you use to express your feelings make me think people might have a point in calling you a bigot.
Calling someone 'fucking weird' without knowing their mindset or motivation for not feeling they fit in with their culture's notions of man and woman sounds pretty bigoted to me.
Notice I didn't call you evil.

[RedKettle]

I've got to agree with the decision made.
But the words you use to express your feelings make me think people might have a point in calling you a bigot.
Calling someone 'fucking weird' without knowing their mindset or motivation for not feeling they fit in with their culture's notions of man and woman sounds pretty bigoted to me.
Notice I didn't call you evil.

I think you meant to reply to a different post by a different poster?

[king tarzan]

I think you meant to reply to a different post by a different poster?

Mr Know it all makes mistakes like the rest of us..

[RedKettle]

The left is becoming tiresome. Let's not forget that these people are the minority. if you have an opinion that questions, or goes against the pushed/forced narrative, then you are shouted, hounded, screamed at, and made to feel that you are an evil bigot.
Well done Sharon Davies.
in my bigoted, evil mind, the only sexes are: Male, Female, or fucking weird

I agree well done Sharon Davies and I completely agree with the decision.

I think there is a distinction between those that have picked up the trans issue and use it to radicalise the debate in some power play and the vast majority of trans people who simply want to live their life.  It is unfair to call them "fucking weird" in my opinion.  I would reserve my dislike for the nutters who push the agenda, and many of them are not even trans.  They are creating division and making life more difficult for the people they say they are helping.

[chrishornx]

Mr Know it all makes mistakes like the rest of us..

got to laugh 

[Bornslippy]

I agree well done Sharon Davies and I completely agree with the decision.

I think there is a distinction between those that have picked up the trans issue and use it to radicalise the debate in some power play and the vast majority of trans people who simply want to live their life.  It is unfair to call them "fucking weird" in my opinion.  I would reserve my dislike for the nutters who push the agenda, and many of them are not even trans.  They are creating division and making life more difficult for the people they say they are helping.

actually I wish it would all disappear....as soon as they push in schools I then get angry

[Bornslippy]

I've got to agree with the decision made.
But the words you use to express your feelings make me think people might have a point in calling you a bigot.
Calling someone 'fucking weird' without knowing their mindset or motivation for not feeling they fit in with their culture's notions of man and woman sounds pretty bigoted to me.
Notice I didn't call you evil.

ah bless

[RedKettle]

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Hints that athletics might reach the same decision.

[mills_and_bhuna]

I think you meant to reply to a different post by a different poster?

sorry about that.  I did 
Edit. Sorry SD. Must have quoted the post above

[mills_and_bhuna]

Mr Know it all makes mistakes like the rest of us..

feel better now

[mills_and_bhuna]

got to laugh 

Mr. Magnanimous at it again.
You could agree with me or disagree with me.
All cool.
But you couldn't resist making a pointless dig

[webpunter]

Looks most suspect
I wouldn't let my kids anywhere him
Or is it her ?

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[lamboman]

Good and brave decision,too many sports appear to think testosterone levels are the sole arbiter of athletic performance which is clearly rubbish.

[PepeMAGA]

I think too often we come at issues like transgender rights from the stance of trying to prevent a few people abusing potential legislation rather than doing whatever we can do to help decent people.

Realistically almost no one is going to transition from man to woman just to gain an unfair advantage in sports events. Transitioning is an incredibly hard and brave thing to do, people who do it, basically do it because they have a sincere belief.

Several sporting authorities take the line that trans women can compete at elite level IF there is reasonable evidence that adjustments (like hormone therapy) can make the competition reasonably fair. I think that’s the most humane and balanced approach.

But…it’s easy for me to say that. I’m not an elite woman athlete whose career may be affected. (It would be interesting to know how many of the organisations making these decisions affecting womens careers are largely controlled by men.)

Is impossible to make it fair.
Men and women have completely different bone and muscle structures, men don't have periods, men have different brains etc etc. Even if you were to start transitioning a boy to appear like a girl pre puberty, they would still have some advantage. Which obviously you shouldn't anyway.
That aside the testosterone level they allow transsexuals to have is way above what a woman would have, typically it just has to be less than 250 ng/dl, which is the equivalent of a low testosterone man, but up to twenty times the amount of testosterone of a woman.

[webpunter]

Wont take long before most sports follow

Dont see what the issue is
Let trans have their own competitions

• female
• male
• trans

The trans promoters will no doubt say this wont work, no sponsors not on tv no coverage blah blah
Indeed coz the vast majority of people aint fcuking interested

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Hints that athletics might reach the same decision.

[Bummer]

100% right : the small minorities like the Trans heckle and hound poor women just telling the truth . Sharon Davies got loads of abuse about being anti gay when she was saying what we all thought but were too scared to say in this woke world !,!  Come on JK Rowling 🙂

[webpunter]

In recognition of SD's efforts & still being fit coming on 60 i have wazzed her up on the 'women who we wish were escorts' thread
Some good pics
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=295107.new#new

100% right : the small minorities like the Trans heckle and hound poor women just telling the truth . Sharon Davies got loads of abuse about being anti gay when she was saying what we all thought but were too scared to say in this woke world !,!  Come on JK Rowling 🙂

[Blackpool Rock]

100% right : the small minorities like the Trans heckle and hound poor women just telling the truth . Sharon Davies got loads of abuse about being anti gay when she was saying what we all thought but were too scared to say in this woke world !,!  Come on JK Rowling 🙂

Let's not forget that Sharon Davies was denied an Olympic Gold by an East German drugs cheat though in fairness to the other swimmer they had been doped by the authorities and were also devastated when they found out and realised they hadn't won the medal on their own merits

[king tarzan]

100% right : the small minorities like the Trans heckle and hound poor women just telling the truth . Sharon Davies got loads of abuse about being anti gay when she was saying what we all thought but were too scared to say in this woke world !,!  Come on JK Rowling 🙂

Imagine them 2 in a full on lesbian 3some 25 years ago👅👅👅👅👅👅👅👅👅👅👅😋😋😋😋😋😋😋😋👅👅👅👅👅👅👅👅👅😋😋😋😋😋😋😋😋😋😋😋😋👅👅👅👅👅👅👅👅

[Gordon Bennett]

Wont take long before most sports follow

Dont see what the issue is
Let trans have their own competitions

• female
• male
• trans

The trans promoters will no doubt say this wont work, no sponsors not on tv no coverage blah blah
Indeed coz the vast majority of people aint fcuking interested

Well who exactly will compete in the Trans category? It's fiendishly hard to get any sensible numbers about the Trans population and likes of Stonewall don't help citing preposterous numbers like 800,000 trans folks in UK.
As far as I can tell less than 8000 people have undergone gender reassignment surgery in UK, a feeble tiny number basically. The number of people who have not had surgery but self-identity as trans is very nebulous - interestingly just over 80% of them seem to be aged over 50 and with a penis though.
With demographics like that how on earth do you credibly justify a Trans category at say, the national swimming championships????

[webpunter]

Thats the trans community's problem
The events will fail, miserably
They can include binary & non binary, if this helps make the numbers add up 

Most people aint interested in trans stuff
Unless you are trans, wannabe, re-assigning, gender fluid + loads of other made up descriptions
Or liberal 

So the Govt [for once] does indeed make the right decision
And  to the female sports stars who have spoken out against it
Putting their necks on the block to protect [proper] women's sport
Just coz some blokes who would be nowhere near good enough to compete in male sports wanna put their cock on the [chopping] block to gain an advantage is cheatin

Let em all join up do their sports stuff, they can call it Transworld Sport
Here's Billys take on it
Edit:  not the best gif, 'just fuck off'

Well who exactly will compete in the Trans category? It's fiendishly hard to get any sensible numbers about the Trans population and likes of Stonewall don't help citing preposterous numbers like 800,000 trans folks in UK.
As far as I can tell less than 8000 people have undergone gender reassignment surgery in UK, a feeble tiny number basically. The number of people who have not had surgery but self-identity as trans is very nebulous - interestingly just over 80% of them seem to be aged over 50 and with a penis though.
With demographics like that how on earth do you credibly justify a Trans category at say, the national swimming championships????

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[Landscape]

Let's not forget that Sharon Davies was denied an Olympic Gold by an East German drugs cheat though in fairness to the other swimmer they had been doped by the authorities and were also devastated when they found out and realised they hadn't won the medal on their own merits

The only points of access the athletes had was with their their coach and the government. After all, why would they lie? They only have my best interests at heart. It was only years later when they had serious health issues due to this that they discovered they had been lied to and paid for it with their bodies. They were little more than medical experiments.

[Thephoenix]

I suppose the sensible thing would be to add another category to the already complicated Paralympic Games.
They might have to change the name, but I'm sure someone could come up with something.

[webpunter]

 
You are going to burn in hell 

Must be painful for the 'female' cyclist on the diminutive saddle
If the knob has just had the 'meat' removed, inverted & rammed inside
What space will there be ?
Especially if he she has been out for 8 pints of nelson & a ruby

Racking my brain on a suitable name change 

I suppose the sensible thing would be to add another category to the already complicated Paralympic Games.
They might have to change the name, but I'm sure someone could come up with something.

[Bummer]

In recognition of SD's efforts & still being fit coming on 60 i have wazzed her up on the 'women who we wish were escorts' thread
Some good pics
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=295107.new#new

Can we add JK too ? She is fit as fuck in a non trans way

[Thephoenix]

I've already added her!.....do keep up!  

[webpunter]

Certainly
Good idea 
Crack on

Can we add JK too ? She is fit as fuck in a non trans way

[webpunter]

So you did, apologies 

I've already added her!.....do keep up!  

[webpunter]

Think the trans sport debate could be a watershed moment
Let the trans community {*} have their own 'everthing'
So much easier
They can go off do their own thing & drop off the radar
Hopefully hear little or the square root of fuck all from them ever again
Phew TFFT 

{* with the exception being trans post SPs
Some of em look FAF
& if no under-carriage / you dont realise it doesnt count  }