Author Topic: Difference between sex with a WG and sex with your wife or girlfriend?  (Read 3592 times)

Offline bayekofthecreed

My question is primarily aimed at members who have previously had wives or girlfriends, or currently have one and see WGs to either supplement the sex they have with their partners, or replace it if their relationship is sexless. Basically, I have only ever had sex with WGs. I lost my virginity to one. Every time I've done it since, it's been paid for. After punting a few times, the novelty has started to wear off for me a bit. As I now have some sexual experience under my belt, I would like to actually experience sex in a scenario where the woman I'm with actually wants to be there and isn't just doing it for the money. I am fully aware that such a scenario doesn't occur when one visits a WG, and I never expected it to. I am now in a situation where I have had sex, but have never actually been in a relationship. Most men have their first experience of sex with their girlfriends (or boyfriends if they are so inclined). I would have much preferred to have found a girlfriend, but I eventually accepted it wasn't going to happen for me which is what led me into punting initially. I'm in what I suspect to be quite an unusual situation. If anyone is wondering how I got into such a situation, I'd describe it as being due to a combination of mental health problems and a lack of confidence around talking to girls when I was younger, which subsequently escalated into the predicament I am now in. I remember wanting to talk to girls when I was a teenage lad, but kept talking myself out of it as I was worried her dad/brother/grandad/uncle or whoever would find out and spark me out.  :D Come to think of it, I've never even been just friends with a female.

Is sex with a partner typically better for you than sex with a WG? The things that appeal to me about sex with a girlfriend are firstly the emotional connection (which you don't get from a WG), and secondly I feel confident in my assumption that most blokes don't normally wear a condom when they shag their wives and girlfriends. I've only ever had protected sex as I've only ever been with WGs.

Offline Aldebaran

Difficult question to answer in simple terms.
A lot of married men, or men in long term relationships, still punt. Having chatted with a few prossies over the years, the general impression I get is that this is for two main reasons.
Firstly, the wife or partner has gone off sex or started to ration it, often after having kids, sometimes because they don't think sex is normal after a certain age, or because of the menopause which has killed their libido.
Secondly, sometimes the wife or girlfriend will not scratch a particular itch, such as a desire for oral or anal sex, or try any new positions ( I've had at least two partners who wouldn't try doggy style because "It wasn't romantic" ) or maybe the male wants a bit of tie and tease or rough sex, and that's voted down straight off.
Is sex better with a wife or g/f? In my opinion, the emotional side is better, you know that you are screwing someone who wants to do it with you, and not because you are paying her, and that's a bit of a buzz, but the physical pleasure is no greater. Sometimes an SP can actually provide greater physical pleasure, but of course there's no emotional connection.
Also, sex with the same person every time can get boring if they aren't willing to experiment a bit, it gets predictable and like baked beans every meal.
Hope this helps.

Offline JamesKW


Is sex with a partner typically better for you than sex with a WG? The things that appeal to me about sex with a girlfriend are firstly the emotional connection (which you don't get from a WG), and secondly I feel confident in my assumption that most blokes don't normally wear a condom when they shag their wives and girlfriends. I've only ever had protected sex as I've only ever been with WGs.

Obviously you need to take one step at a time,before worrying about the sex with wife (or longterm partner) bit you need to get a girlfriend first.With a wife (or ltp) there is so much more than sex,there is children or grand children (later in life),you may even get a wife that earns more than you so you can have a more comfortable life style and a companion to share things with.Sex with a girlfriend  I should imagine still includes the condom bit I still used one in the early days of marriage.
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I think it's been answered already. Sex is no doubt more emotional with a girlfriend\wife etc. I also find it much more exciting with a civvy as it's effectively free and there's the thrill of being able to fuck someone through your own talent and good looks alone with no remuneration.

I'm with Aldebaran it can get boring, but it's more regular than prossies. The huge limit is finances, probably more so than time or travel etc. Last girlfriend I had we had sex just about everytime we met. I'm not ashamed to admit bareback every single time, but we were committed and I don't see anyone else when I'm in a relationship including prossies and civvies.

I read your review about losing your virginity and depending on your age if your using viagra and you're under 40 then you need to ask yourself why? My first punt I was nervous as heck, but I had an iron bar.

Offline WelshClipper

I mean no offence.....

But I am wary this question is a little, shall we say, scripted. I hope I am wrong...  :unknown:

Anyways, sex with an OH probably has more meaning especially in the early stages. The problem is, sex in a relationship comes with baggage, other commitments, possible arguments, differences of opinion, differences in what each likes in physical sex. The OH is essentially providing sex for free on the basis of a reciprocal relationship.

Sex with a SP is just sex, no baggage and if the SP is good, she provides a sexual experience tailoured to the punter.

So sex in my view is better with an SP on the physical side.

Sex in a relationship comes as a package. As long as the other parts of the contract are fulfilling (social, interests, viewpoints, sex) then all good too. However, the sex with an SP begins, when the relationship contract starts to fail.

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IMHO the difference is with a working girl is I don't have to spend 15 minutes or so doing foreplay and I don't have to hold her for 10 minutes afterwards.  Just in/out, jobs a good 'un.

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Is sex with a partner typically better for you than sex with a WG? The things that appeal to me about sex with a girlfriend are firstly the emotional connection (which you don't get from a WG), and secondly I feel confident in my assumption that most blokes don't normally wear a condom when they shag their wives and girlfriends. I've only ever had protected sex as I've only ever been with WGs.

See, the thing is, first, when you start punting usually it means you are fed up with the emotional baggage. You seem to be doing it arse about face.

Second, for me, the only time I had sex without a condom was to procreate. My OH disliked the pill so I have basically used a condom all my life. So you cannot make that assumption.

I dunno, maybe its me thats weird.  :unknown:


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I have a lot of sex with wg’s, and with my wife.

There is no doubt in my mind, that in my position, and with my wife specifically, the best working girl fuck, doesn’t even come close to the quickest of quickies with my wife.

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I have a lot of sex with wg’s, and with my wife.

There is no doubt in my mind, that in my position, and with my wife specifically, the best working girl fuck, doesn’t even come close to the quickest of quickies with my wife.
True dat. Although my ex never did anal.

Offline WelshClipper

I have a lot of sex with wg’s, and with my wife.

There is no doubt in my mind, that in my position, and with my wife specifically, the best working girl fuck, doesn’t even come close to the quickest of quickies with my wife.

 :thumbsup:

Actually this above illustrates the point better than anything else that I could have said.

The fact that there is no norm whatsoever.

I could have written the same paragraph but swapped wife with working girl in each instance. I don’t think I really knew what sex could be like until I booked a working girl.

Funny old world.  :)


Offline hfe689343

I'm in the same situation as OP, but I have the feeling that it really depends on the girl (WG or GF). I find it much more enjoyable to see a girl get pleasure from me (or the illusion of it) rather than just mechanical sex, even with the hottest girl, and I think this is something way harder to find when you pay for sex.

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See, the thing is, first, when you start punting usually it means you are fed up with the emotional baggage. You seem to be doing it arse about face.

Second, for me, the only time I had sex without a condom was to procreate. My OH disliked the pill so I have basically used a condom all my life. So you cannot make that assumption.

I dunno, maybe its me thats weird.  :unknown:

Everybody’s different. (How often we trot out that phrase, but so few of us actually accept the essential truth of it.) But no, it doesn’t strike me as weird.

I’m often surprised on these threads (we’ve often had threads comparing WG sex with wife or girl friend sex over the years) that nearly everyone either says wife or girl friend sex is better or WG sex is better.

In my case it’s been a real mixed bag…sometimes it’s been better with a particular WG, sometimes better with a particular girlfriend. As for the wife…I thought about seeing a psychiatrist at one point to check my sanity, as I couldn’t for life of me figure out why I’d got married.
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My question is primarily aimed at members who have previously had wives or girlfriends, or currently have one and see WGs to either supplement the sex they have with their partners, or replace it if their relationship is sexless. Basically, I have only ever had sex with WGs. I lost my virginity to one. Every time I've done it since, it's been paid for. After punting a few times, the novelty has started to wear off for me a bit. As I now have some sexual experience under my belt, I would like to actually experience sex in a scenario where the woman I'm with actually wants to be there and isn't just doing it for the money. I am fully aware that such a scenario doesn't occur when one visits a WG, and I never expected it to. I am now in a situation where I have had sex, but have never actually been in a relationship. Most men have their first experience of sex with their girlfriends (or boyfriends if they are so inclined). I would have much preferred to have found a girlfriend, but I eventually accepted it wasn't going to happen for me which is what led me into punting initially. I'm in what I suspect to be quite an unusual situation. If anyone is wondering how I got into such a situation, I'd describe it as being due to a combination of mental health problems and a lack of confidence around talking to girls when I was younger, which subsequently escalated into the predicament I am now in. I remember wanting to talk to girls when I was a teenage lad, but kept talking myself out of it as I was worried her dad/brother/grandad/uncle or whoever would find out and spark me out.  :D Come to think of it, I've never even been just friends with a female.

Is sex with a partner typically better for you than sex with a WG? The things that appeal to me about sex with a girlfriend are firstly the emotional connection (which you don't get from a WG), and secondly I feel confident in my assumption that most blokes don't normally wear a condom when they shag their wives and girlfriends. I've only ever had protected sex as I've only ever been with WGs.

Your wife doesn't charge me.  :hi:

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Always been more than happy with what I'm getting at home from most partners, but they're not Chinese/black/EE/Latina/chebbed/minged.

Offline willie loman

IMHO the difference is with a working girl is I don't have to spend 15 minutes or so doing foreplay and I don't have to hold her for 10 minutes afterwards.  Just in/out, jobs a good 'un.

i think most men or women who have been in a relationship would say the opposite, couple sex, rarely after the initial period involves kissing or foreplay, or even undressing totally, whereas with a hooker, its always 69 and other stuff ending with penetration.

Offline WelshClipper

I think the OP is looking for a defined way that all SPs operate vis a vis how a relationship would work.

My answer is there is no single format. Its all over the shop.

Different strokes etc etc....

........and your views/experiences can change over time.
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Offline JontyR

I think there is one thing that unites everyone on this forum. Generally we all punt when we have the money, the opportunity and the motivation to do so.

There may be differences in terms of income, or on what some want from a punt...a £20 P&D or a Sabbatical in some foreign clime.

Opportunity again varies by domestic, work and health situations.

Motivation is where there will be the biggest diversity of answers I'd guess. The reasons behind why we all punt will vary, and may vary over time. I've dated a six foot redhead and I punted a petite black girl whilst seeing her. I've dated a petite black girl and punted a six foot redhead whilst seeing her. Maybe I need to seek an arrangement where I live with multiple partners to meet my whimsical needs?

So whilst there are differences in all of our situations the groupings are all pretty much the same.

Now OP...your motivations seem to be around the accessibility of women, not just for sex but for just talking to. You'll know yourself better than others but one problem with this hobby is that it can change your perception of the accessibility of women.

So the challenge back to you is....if you are looking for a relationship....just what are you bringing to the party? With a SP you are bringing cash. What are you bringing to Miss Civvy of the Year 2022?

I'd test yourself. Just get to know some women. Put yourself in the situation where you can get some female friends...you may meet someone during this time but it shouldn't be your primary motivation. You'll be more relaxed and engaging if you aren't putting pressure on yourself. Also, the amount of women who will prioritise a guy who's new primary motivation is actually looking to use her to find out what its like to get his dick wet isn't in the billions.

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Is sex with a partner typically better for you than sex with a WG? The things that appeal to me about sex with a girlfriend are firstly the emotional connection (which you don't get from a WG), and secondly I feel confident in my assumption that most blokes don't normally wear a condom when they shag their wives and girlfriends. I've only ever had protected sex as I've only ever been with WGs.
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If you can communicate about sex and desires, have matched sex drives and have enough care both ways to keep one another happy in and out of bed, then there is nothing like it in the paid sex world, unless you hit it off sexually with a regular you get on very well with. Even then it is usually wipe your dick on the curtains and fuck off once the deed is done. Even if you have chat time, it is going nowhere and you are at risk of EAS, which may not be coming your way.

If you are really lucky and very open, finding a partner who shares your enjoyment of sex with others is amazing, but requires a lot of trust and respect for one another.

As others have said, all hypothetical until you get out there and try for yourself and get over your fears of big brother, talking about it on here will not do that for you.

Please do not read the " Marriage " thread  :D, looking to marry a virtual stranger will do you no good at all.
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Offline Whiteknight

Personally, the main 2 differences are:

1) Someone else's GF or Wife is always better.

2) You can be really selfish in bed. There is no need to return favours and keep the sex life good and balanced like in a real relationship.


You pay a fee, do what you like with the SP that you wouldn't do with your wife/GF, as long as its a service being offered and the SP is happy to do it in your booking.

Offline Bobbyplastic

Before you journey down that long, painful, expensive road that leads to a girlfriend or even wife, I suggest you look at Red Pill Theory. I wish I did, all those years ago.

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The answer to this - as the responses show - is "it depends".

I had long relationships/marriages with 7 women before I started paying as the norm.

All those women except my first wife catered to my wants. She didn't because neither of us had a clue.

Until my last live-in relationship ended - because she wanted a baby and I couldn't supply - I was perfectly happy and had sex every day.

Now that I'm alone sexually it's been wonderful trying all sorts of stuff I hadn't got round to or dreamt of.

And I generally like the company of those I pay. Though I do a lot of research in advance to see if we're likely to get on as straightforward slam bam thank you mam doesn't appeal to me.
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The answer to this - as the responses show - is "it depends".

I had long relationships/marriages with 7 women before I started paying as the norm.

All those women except my first wife catered to my wants. She didn't because neither of us had a clue.

Until my last live-in relationship ended - because she wanted a baby and I couldn't supply - I was perfectly happy and had sex every day.

Now that I'm alone sexually it's been wonderful trying all sorts of stuff I hadn't got round to or dreamt of.

And I generally like the company of those I pay. Though I do a lot of research in advance to see if we're likely to get on as straightforward slam bam thank you mam doesn't appeal to me.


There in lies a few of the answers, if you are open and able to communicate around sex relationships can be very good, if you are not prepared to discuss the subject, sit back and blame lack of sex on your partner, not discuss the reasons, and look after yourself, what do you really expect.  :unknown:
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Offline JamesKW

The huge limit is finances, probably more so than time or travel etc. Last girlfriend I had we had sex just about everytime we met. I'm not ashamed to admit bareback every single time, but we were committed and I don't see anyone else when I'm in a relationship including prossies and civvies.


The condom bit is not just about safe sex its also about preventing unwanted pregnacies with a girlfriend or early in the marriage,some women arent that good with the pill or they get side effects.

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About 20kg

Plenty of prossies arent exactly light weight nowdays.

Offline WelshClipper

Just in case no one has experienced it, my relationship with the OH is actually better now than it was in the years before I started punting. I get all my sexual frustrations out with the SP including all the things my OH never dreamed of or was not comfortable doing. Win win really  :)

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Just in case no one has experienced it, my relationship with the OH is actually better now than it was in the years before I started punting. I get all my sexual frustrations out with the SP including all the things my OH never dreamed of or was not comfortable doing. Win win really  :)

I argue/disagree with OH about a million things but not sex.

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I think it's been answered already. Sex is no doubt more emotional with a girlfriend\wife etc. I also find it much more exciting with a civvy as it's effectively free and there's the thrill of being able to fuck someone through your own talent and good looks alone with no remuneration.


I completely agree with this, the thrill of being able to fuck someone through your own talent / good looks.   

What i find the biggest turn on these days is from women I know, they may not be the best looking or have the best bodies but the appeal comes from knowing them,  having a connection rather than simply paying a complete stranger for sex. 
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I completely agree with this, the thrill of being able to fuck someone through your own talent / good looks.   

What i find the biggest turn on these days is from women I know, they may not be the best looking or have the best bodies but the appeal comes from knowing them,  having a connection rather than simply paying a complete stranger for sex.
One of the biggest buzzes in the world. I think as well what people forget is if you book an escort for an hour, you get an hour maybe 30 minutes longer if you are talking shit and just chilling. With some civvies a "date" can last 3 days of rampant sex. I've done quickies with civvies on a lunch break and it's been 10 or 15 minutes which is cool, but the last person I got on great with who came to my drum was there for about 2 and a half hours. You don't get that with an escort, or at least very rarely.

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One of the biggest buzzes in the world. I think as well what people forget is if you book an escort for an hour, you get an hour maybe 30 minutes longer if you are talking shit and just chilling. With some civvies a "date" can last 3 days of rampant sex. I've done quickies with civvies on a lunch break and it's been 10 or 15 minutes which is cool, but the last person I got on great with who came to my drum was there for about 2 and a half hours. You don't get that with an escort, or at least very rarely.

I see your viewpoint. For me I don't want longer once the hour is up, I am ready to leave.

Again, you illustrate just how varied our answers are.  :hi:

Offline Whiteknight

Wife and SP, you need both in your life  :D

Imagine having to delete all the games you have on your tablet, only having just 1 game   :scare:

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I completely agree with this, the thrill of being able to fuck someone through your own talent / good looks.   

What i find the biggest turn on these days is from women I know, they may not be the best looking or have the best bodies but the appeal comes from knowing them,  having a connection rather than simply paying a complete stranger for sex.

You can find very similar in the paid sex world if you want to and take some time to do so, probably not a real emotional connection which is handy if you are not wanting a relationship  :D

Fun relaxed sex, social company, chats outside of meets, with someone you really get on with who enjoys your company, the whole experience is far superior to am AW booking, which is why spur of the moment quickies are all I really use the pro platforms for.

Fair enough, not everyone is in my position, had my usual morning chat with 2 6 foot Amazonians this morning and they are a lot of fun.
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Offline suttonporksword

I think another thing once bearing in mind is that if you are a dirty bastard who likes a tongue up his ass, if you suggest this to your other half you might be in the dog house for weeks or forever, a wg can say yes or no and there are no consequences

Offline stampjones

@OP if you want to get more like the experience of sex in a proper relationship without the stress of getting a proper girlfriend, maybe try seeking. There are different girls on there and you can get different types of experience, but when it works well its almost exactly like relationship sex except you’re paying for it and you dont have all the bullshit associated with an actual relationship. There’s a lot of information on the various seeking threads. Have a read - might be an easy way to try it out for you

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Never had a WG fall asleep while i was pounding her  :D

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The other thing is I really like sleeping next to a woman. Also the chance of an early morning dip. Not willing to spend 1k on an escort for the privilege.

Offline JontyR

The other thing is I really like sleeping next to a woman. Also the chance of an early morning dip. Not willing to spend 1k on an escort for the privilege.

Actually I don't care much for sleeping next to a woman. I like waking up next to one though.

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Actually I don't care much for sleeping next to a woman. I like waking up next to one though.

As pointed our above
Escort - she is there to please you guaranteed (or at least the good ones are) but you are paying for it
GF - you probably need to put in more effort but get an emotional involvement as well

Offline Johnnyb0y

Everyone is different but I think I started punting in my 40’s because I was being nagged more and getting less action in the bedroom so was frustrated.  Something kind of snapped in me when I booked my first WG and fucked her senseless - she loved it by the way.

Now I get on much better with my OH and when she nags me my mind goes back a few days to the dirty slut who sucked my    Cock and took a good pounding doggy.

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Now I get on much better with my OH and when she nags me my mind goes back a few days to the dirty slut who sucked my    Cock and took a good pounding doggy.
+1 :hi:

Never forget the look on my OHs face after I pounded her in doggy pulled out spun her round shot on tits then licked it off :yahoo:

"Where the Hell did you get that idea from?"  was the shout as I was about to snow ball my jizz to her  :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:

Porn and WG action rarely cross in to the civie world :( :(
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Offline char45

Some good replies, I lost my virginity to a civvy and took up punting after a bad break up and when I was earning more. I've had some long relationships and naturally I think the emotional connection makes for different, if not better, sex. If I were you I would ease off the punting for a while. I know apps are the way to meet people and I've met partners through them but I would try out some new things, e.g. hiking tends to attract both men and women. They are unlikely to be supermodels but it would build up your confidence and give you something to talk about with dates. Mainly though I wouldn't stress about getting a girlfriend/wife, I've always found that when I really focus on getting something it doesn't happen and when I relax something happens.

I also wouldn't try Seeking, it's too confusing and you might end up paying alot of money to someone who ultimately is just interested in that.

Offline Johnnyb0y

Good advice from char45.

When I was in my 20’s I was cash poor so I was driven to seek out civvy pussy for regular action. The amount of chick flicks I had to endure to get her in the mood for sex was bloody hard work man.

If you are seeing wg’s you might be interfering with natural drive to seek out a regular girlfriend which takes effort.  You also need to relax as any hint of desperation will be picked up on her “boyfriend material senses.”

Having some hobbies may help you meet more women / have something in common to get you started.

By the way don’t worry about condoms.  Like welshclipper all my sex is with a jacket as since kids my OH does not use the Pill (I suspect this makes time of month stuff even more challenging on the mood swings front etc)

If you are confident in yourself and hit gym / look after your appearance it helps with attraction. Who knows You may get lucky and find a girl who does not like chick flicks

Offline willie loman

wgs expect and put up with 20 minutes of foreplay not to mention absurdly long poundings, but in real life women cant be arsed with all that foreplay, and even worse a guy who takes ages to come.

Offline pantywetter

+1 :hi:

Never forget the look on my OHs face after I pounded her in doggy pulled out spun her round shot on tits then licked it off :yahoo:

"Where the Hell did you get that idea from?"  was the shout as I was about to snow ball my jizz to her  :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:

Porn and WG action rarely cross in to the civie world :( :(

I am fairly open about what I like nowadays, but there is loads of stuff you just can’t really ask for in a civvy relationship. 

Say you like snowballing.  It shouldn’t be a big upgrade considering she has a mouthful of your spunk anyway, but it’s hard to ask for and she probably wouldn’t do it anyway.

If civvies were 10% more kinky and up for it a bit more, I would never need to punt.
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Offline willie loman

I am fairly open about what I like nowadays, but there is loads of stuff you just can’t really ask for in a civvy relationship. 

Say you like snowballing.  It shouldn’t be a big upgrade considering she has a mouthful of your spunk anyway, but it’s hard to ask for and she probably wouldn’t do it anyway.

If civvies were 10% more kinky and up for it a bit more, I would never need to punt.

certainly rimming which is common enough with wgs doesnt seem to have gone mainstream

Offline pantywetter

Maybe I’ll turn it into a question.  How many here would ask their Mrs for rimming, snowballing, watersports, facials or anything out of the mainstream? 

And seperately, how many girls would say yes?

I like the emotional aspect of sex with a GF, but it is generally too vanilla for risk of looking like a sexual deviant. 

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Offline shed

Maybe I’ll turn it into a question.  How many here would ask their Mrs for rimming, snowballing, watersports, facials or anything out of the mainstream? 



My Mrs would have done none of those. However after an argument she would probably have been  happy to piss and shit on my face if allowed  :D :D

Offline Malvolio

Maybe I’ll turn it into a question.  How many here would ask their Mrs for rimming, snowballing, watersports, facials or anything out of the mainstream? 

And seperately, how many girls would say yes?

I like the emotional aspect of sex with a GF, but it is generally too vanilla for risk of looking like a sexual deviant.

It's a bit different asking to do one of those when you've never done anything like that in all the time you've been together.

Offline WelshClipper

Maybe I’ll turn it into a question.  How many here would ask their Mrs for rimming, snowballing, watersports, facials or anything out of the mainstream? 

And seperately, how many girls would say yes?

I like the emotional aspect of sex with a GF, but it is generally too vanilla for risk of looking like a sexual deviant. 



I could not for the life of me imagine my missus doing even the most vanilla punt with me. I think she would run a mile at the very idea of a 69.

To be fair to her, when we married, any sexual encounter was kissing, fingering followed by missionary sex. At the time I thought that pretty cool.  :)
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