Lester Piggott R.I.P.

[WARSZAWA16]

Just heard on the radio that Lester Piggott has died, aged 86. A true racing legend.
R.I.P.

[WARSZAWA16]

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[jlike]

Who was the first black rider of a grand national winner.

Lester Piggott's cell mate.

[Stevelondon]

Who was the first black rider of a grand national winner.

Lester Piggott's cell mate.

I think there’s already a thread for tasteless jokes.

[lamboman]

 4,493 winners amazing,like a lot of flat jockeys he certainly had some issues.                                                                                              RIP.

[WDFORTE]

Who was the first black rider of a grand national winner.

Lester Piggott's cell mate.

That is really offensive, was that really called for? #disgusted.   

[daviemac]

Who was the first black rider of a grand national winner.

Lester Piggott's cell mate.

He was a flat jockey, he never rode over jumps. 

[chrishornx]

He was a flat jockey, he never rode over jumps. 

beg to differ he did ride jumps

[chrishornx]

That is really offensive, was that really called for? #disgusted.   

agree totally uncalled for

[mr.bluesky]

That is really offensive, was that really called for? #disgusted.   

That's a bit rich coming from someone who posted a joke about Maddie Mccann and Dennis Waterman. My what a short memory you have 

[lamboman]

He was a flat jockey, he never rode over jumps. 

He did ride jumps with many winners.
A tasteless joke in any case.

[chrishornx]

He did ride jumps with many winners.
A tasteless joke in any case.

in case anybody gets picky he was hurdles not jumps but he won at the Cheltenham festival so no fool

[daviemac]

beg to differ he did ride jumps

I'll rephrase it then, should have said he never won the Grand National. Though his grandfather did.

[chrishornx]

I'll rephrase it then, should have said he never won the Grand National. Though his grandfather did.

That is a radical rephrase considering the likes of Scudamore and Francome never won it. But Piggot had quiet a few winners over hurdles

[lamboman]

That is a radical rephrase

Worthy of any politician.

[daviemac]

That is a radical rephrase considering the likes of Scudamore and Francome never won it. But Piggot had quiet a few winners over hurdles

To be pedantic he didn't ride over jumps, he rode over hurdles but was predominately a flat jockey and he did not win the Grand National, a jump race.

But keep picking the faults.   

[chrishornx]

To be pedantic he didn't ride over jumps, he rode over hurdles but was predominately a flat jockey and he did not win the Grand National, a jump race.

But keep picking the faults.   

reply 11 said as much about hurdles. Not picking faults just correcting an incorrect statement

everyone knows he didn't win the National not sure what relevance that has to anything   

[daviemac]

reply 11 said as much about hurdles. Not picking faults just correcting an incorrect statement

everyone knows he didn't win the National not sure what relevance that has to anything   

Apart from maybe the 'joke' that started the discussion about what sort of jockey he was.   

 

Who was the first black rider of a grand national winner.

Lester Piggott's cell mate.

[jackdaw]

His height and distinctive riding style meant you could spot him a “mile off” when in a race. I guess he must have been a nightmare to race against, but for some reason he’s always been one of my favourite sportsmen…maybe something to do with utter lack of bullshit, he was there to win.

“If the horse loses balance, he loses speed and direction, and that might cost him the race. The horse has his own centre of gravity just behind the shoulders. The jockey has his own centre of gravity. But the jockey can shift his and the horse can’t. At every stride the horse’s centre of gravity is shifting in relation to the jockey. Getting the horse balanced means keeping your balance every stride, every second, to suit his.”

That was one of his own explanations of riding…and yes (of course) it (maintaining near perfect balance) was one of his exceptional strengths.

[chrishornx]

Apart from maybe the 'joke' that started the discussion about what sort of jockey he was.   

 

you hit the nail on the head it was a joke not to be taken literally that Piggot was a jump jockey

[daviemac]

you hit the nail on the head it was a joke not to be taken literally that Piggot was a jump jockey

Make your mind up, you were the one who stated he did ride over jumps as soon as I said he didn't.   

The fact is it was a tasteless joke and the point I was making, before being corrected, was that it didn't work because Piggott didn't win the National.

[mh]

Lester was exceptional, truly class leading. Even Ken Dodd and Jimmy Carr couldn't hold a candle to his superb tax evasion.

[lillythesavage]

Lester was exceptional, truly class leading. Even Ken Dodd and Jimmy Carr couldn't hold a candle to his superb tax evasion.

Plenty more exceptional, he got caught 

[mh]

Plenty more exceptional, he got caught 

He was having a good one, but was dismounted late on.

[Adoniron]

Lester was exceptional, truly class leading. Even Ken Dodd and Jimmy Carr couldn't hold a candle to his superb tax evasion.

I always thought that Ken Dodd got off because his likeable personality appeared to the jury whereas taciturn, morose Lester didn't.

[jackdaw]

I always thought that Ken Dodd got off because his likeable personality appeared to the jury whereas taciturn, morose Lester didn't.

Lester didn’t help himself…his transgressions came to light because he paid his annual tax using a bank account whose existence he’d never officially revealed…it’s what launched the initial tax probe.

So immediately he was on the back foot…it was obvious he’d got loads of money that he’d never declared on earlier tax returns,  and it was hard (I imagine) for any competent jury to doubt that he’d been deliberately cheating.

[king tarzan]

Always looked a grumpy git
No personality no character no charm


But he was obviously extremely talented in his field..

[GreyDave]

Lester didn’t help himself…his transgressions came to light because he paid his annual tax using a bank account whose existence he’d never officially revealed…it’s what launched the initial tax probe.

So immediately he was on the back foot…it was obvious he’d got loads of money that he’d never declared on earlier tax returns,  and it was hard (I imagine) for any competent jury to doubt that he’d been deliberately cheating.

Tax man  "Are you sure there is enough funds to settle this account Sir ?"   Lester replied " Yes theres more than a million in that account!"

"Really thats one we did not know about!"........            Your going to jail right now! .....Lui Prima... "Next Time"