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Good luck to him and others like him..


I've always gone on basis when athletes were very poor no one helped or gave a shit, know they make it rich with super wages jealousy laden criticism everywhere!!

Milk it whilst you can!!
Good luck 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌
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I’ve got no truck with anyone earning whatever it is anyone is willing to pay them.
What gets me is the business model of some of these clubs.
Can PSG actually afford it etc.

The other thing that gets me is when ticket prices/season tickets holders prices go through the roof.
I love my football. But I ain’t paying stupid money to watch somebody get paid nearly £150k a day, kick a ball round a pitch.  :D

The divides in football is becoming greater and greater and I can’t see it stopping anytime soon. Every league will soon have its super rich five or six clubs followed by the rest of the runners.

All I have to say is “Howay the Lads”  :D

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I'm glad for him. Well played, love how he strung Real Madrid along. They are a great club but so up Thier own arse they finally get told to fuck off. Now the whole Spanish league and press are up in arms.

In the 90s they were getting government bail outs due to excessive spending, still going around buying galacticos. Now looking at Barcelona, in the same white Real were, however despite being 1b in debt they are signing Abemayang, making offers for Lewondowski etc. Typical Spanish football whingers.

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classic case of pot and kettle

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I’ve got no truck with anyone earning whatever it is anyone is willing to pay them.
What gets me is the business model of some of these clubs.
Can PSG actually afford it etc.

The other thing that gets me is when ticket prices/season tickets holders prices go through the roof.
I love my football. But I ain’t paying stupid money to watch somebody get paid nearly £150k a day, kick a ball round a pitch.  :D

The divides in football is becoming greater and greater and I can’t see it stopping anytime soon. Every league will soon have its super rich five or six clubs followed by the rest of the runners.

All I have to say is “Howay the Lads”  :D


When I was a kid football was a family game, where you went with the old men on a dull wet Saturday afternoon, in my teens, from the age of about 13, a friend and I would go to mid week matches alone, after school on the bus to North London.

Money has changed everything, deciding to go on the spur of the moment is no more, like everything else you have to plan in advance and pay up front which means few kids grow up going to football, only the families of some wealth can afford it if your local or favourite team is in the top flight.

Cannot help thinking that has a bad effect on young Brits breaking into the game and family life in general, Saturday was always the day the old man spent quality time with us.
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Meanwhile over in football thread people are commenting that “financial fair play rules” (Lol!) don’t apply t Man City.

Those rules seem a load of cobblers to me…they are basically being used to destroy Derby County, while PSG, Barcelona, Real,Madrid do whatever they want.

Far better…if football authorities really care about fair play to have a Europe wide salary cap. But basically the authorities actually don’t give a monkeys about fair play.
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When I was a kid football was a family game, where you went with the old men on a dull wet Saturday afternoon, in my teens, from the age of about 13, a friend and I would go to mid week matches alone, after school on the bus to North London.

Money has changed everything, deciding to go on the spur of the moment is no more, like everything else you have to plan in advance and pay up front which means few kids grow up going to football, only the families of some wealth can afford it if your local or favourite team is in the top flight.

Cannot help thinking that has a bad effect on young Brits breaking into the game and family life in general, Saturday was always the day the old man spent quality time with us.

Go non-league - pay on the gate and kick-off is always 3pm on a Saturday

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When I was a kid football was a family game, where you went with the old men on a dull wet Saturday afternoon, in my teens, from the age of about 13, a friend and I would go to mid week matches alone, after school on the bus to North London.

Money has changed everything, deciding to go on the spur of the moment is no more, like everything else you have to plan in advance and pay up front which means few kids grow up going to football, only the families of some wealth can afford it if your local or favourite team is in the top flight.

Cannot help thinking that has a bad effect on young Brits breaking into the game and family life in general, Saturday was always the day the old man spent quality time with us.

When I was young the world's greatest footballer was Stanley Matthews, or so they said. £5 a week.
The Americans moved in and it became all about money.

Now a Saudi has bought Newcastle. A man responsible without doubt for murder. Nobody cares - because it's all about money.

Yes: a matter of life and death.


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When I was young the world's greatest footballer was Stanley Matthews, or so they said. £5 a week.
The Americans moved in and it became all about money.

Now a Saudi has bought Newcastle. A man responsible without doubt for murder. Nobody cares - because it's all about money.

Yes: a matter of life and death.

Everything is about money.
This country has been selling arms to the Saudis for years. But now a Saudi business consortium has bought The Toon. People whinge………..
Who would have guessed.

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Now a Saudi has bought Newcastle. A man responsible without doubt for murder. Nobody cares - because it's all about money.

Don't show your ignorance, the UK have been trading with and selling arms to Saudi for years and more recently the Saudi PIF have been investing in things most of us use on a daily basis.

Fair do's if you boycott or don't use the likes of Disney, Starbucks, Uber or Facebook but by any chance did you have the Pfizer vaccine.   :unknown:

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Go non-league - pay on the gate and kick-off is always 3pm on a Saturday

But kids have no interest, and not the point, not everyone has a local non league team and that is not the way for British kids to get into league football.
TV and press exposure means kids only have interest in the big teams these days, a few hundred in a grotty ground holds no appeal.
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, a few hundred in a grotty ground holds no appeal.


Disrespectful comment  :thumbsdown:. All  non league clubs struggle daily with money but they survive through staying solvent, just. They don't have the funds or sponsorship to revamp their grounds unlike your mob who are 800 million plus in debt. They provide great entertainment for communities and yes many many youngsters go to watch their local club and long may that continue

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Disrespectful comment  :thumbsdown:. All  non league clubs struggle daily with money but they survive through staying solvent, just. They don't have the funds or sponsorship to revamp their grounds unlike your mob who are 800 million plus in debt. They provide great entertainment for communities and yes many many youngsters go to watch their local club and long may that continue

Because the money stays at the top, the whole system does not work, kids are fed the top teams through TV etc, obviously not enough kids and dads going to watch or they would not be struggling for survival.

Had a bad day?

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Had a great day actually. Pleased Leeds have survived  :sarcastic: means an easy six points for next season. Also Liverpool no chance now of the quadruple. United at least in European cup competition even though we were total crap all season.. My team of the season has to be Brighton and Graham Potter. Finished 9th on 51 points. Great club, well funded, happy staff and players with great supporters.

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Because the money stays at the top, the whole system does not work, kids are fed the top teams through TV etc, obviously not enough kids and dads going to watch or they would not be struggling for survival.

Had a bad day?


Not sure you understand how clubs are funded. But hey ho let's move on

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Disrespectful comment  :thumbsdown:. All  non league clubs struggle daily with money but they survive through staying solvent, just. They don't have the funds or sponsorship to revamp their grounds unlike your mob who are 800 million plus in debt. They provide great entertainment for communities and yes many many youngsters go to watch their local club and long may that continue

Well said! :thumbsup:

I've been following my local side for many years and have built up a rapport with other fans and the people running the club. It fosters a sense of community where everyone is pushing together to try and improve the club whilst being part of something tangible - something you'll never get at a soulless megacorp club.

Sure, we'll never get the experience of winning multiple trophies to the point where it becomes a mundane exercise. But when we do achieve something, it will mean a lot more personal to everyone involved and the local community; we didn't achieve it through throwing money at it, we achieved it through hard graft, careful planning and working together as a team, as a community.

This close season, we will be relaying our 3G pitch at a cost of £250-300k, a huge amount for a club at our level. To get the money to pay for this took over a decade of careful financial planning. Being a 3G pitch, it has other benefits as it can be hired out throughout the year. Those who use it will associate its use to the club who provides it, an association which has seen attendances rise over the years.

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I’ve got no truck with anyone earning whatever it is anyone is willing to pay them.
What gets me is the business model of some of these clubs.
Can PSG actually afford it etc.

The other thing that gets me is when ticket prices/season tickets holders prices go through the roof.


Why would it concern you whether a football club can afford it or not (unless it is the one you support) especially an overseas club.The business model is fairly clear,they are often a vanity project for a rich person,hopefully who is a fan.This has always been the case like Liverpool and the Littlewoods family or Watford and Elton John.Or they buy star names to sell merchandise to overseas fans.Even if your club is not big, fans like to go to the big games and it is a good feeling if you beat these clubs.My own club which is premiership sells some season tickets for as little as £300(adult price) and even less for children.
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Money has changed everything, deciding to go on the spur of the moment is no more, like everything else you have to plan in advance and pay up front which means few kids grow up going to football, only the families of some wealth can afford it if your local or favourite team is in the top flight.


Some premiership clubs do still provide a good deal for families,for cup games,tv games,smaller club games,the prices are often still similar to those charged in the 80s if you take inflation into account,(some less if its kids for a £1).

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Don't show your ignorance, the UK have been trading with and selling arms to Saudi for years and more recently the Saudi PIF have been investing in things most of us use on a daily basis.

Fair do's if you boycott or don't use the likes of Disney, Starbucks, Uber or Facebook but by any chance did you have the Pfizer vaccine.   :unknown:

I am famiiar with Britain's relationships with Saudi Arabia; I once worked for the Saudia Airline. But as far as I know nobody at Disney, Starbucks, Uber, Facebook or Pfizer has been proven to have a man kidnapped and murdered.

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I am famiiar with Britain's relationships with Saudi Arabia; I once worked for the Saudia Airline. But as far as I know nobody at Disney, Starbucks, Uber, Facebook or Pfizer has been proven to have a man kidnapped and murdered.
Nor has anyone at Newcastle United and Newcastle are just another of the many investments the Saudi PIF make.  The PIF have purchased Newcastle, not an individual and the fund is run by the same people who have overseen the investments in the companies I've mentioned so what is the difference.

Did you have the Pfizer vaccine or do you use any other Pfizer products or do you refuse them on the grounds that the same people who bought Newcastle also invested in that company.

If you object to the PIF investing in one company then have the courage of your convictions and boycott all companies they have invested in. That may be a bit difficult though, as if reports are correct they are going to invest heavily in solar and or wind power generated electricity.

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Some premiership clubs do still provide a good deal for families,for cup games,tv games,smaller club games,the prices are often still similar to those charged in the 80s if you take inflation into account,(some less if its kids for a £1).

Yep, aware of that but it is not week in week out, it is when they want to fill empty space when ticket sales are slow.

Back in the day, if we wanted to go we went, paid on entry, alternated between Spurs and West Ham, Charlton if both were away, even Orient on occasion.

The point being, if dad had to work, someone was sick, life happened, we did not have to book in advance, lose money if things went tits up, and it was affordable, you just had to go earlier for the big games  :D.

That option is gone unless you go way down the league, but it is the big clubs where kids would like to go because they are rammed down every throat, my boys have spent thousands following West Ham around Europe, every match home and away, at least 1k each away match, each, will not tell me exactly how much but I have paid some bills,  they were grateful to get knocked out  :D
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Nor has anyone at Newcastle United and Newcastle are just another of the many investments the Saudi PIF make.  The PIF have purchased Newcastle, not an individual and the fund is run by the same people who have overseen the investments in the companies I've mentioned so what is the difference.

Did you have the Pfizer vaccine or do you use any other Pfizer products or do you refuse them on the grounds that the same people who bought Newcastle also invested in that company.

If you object to the PIF investing in one company then have the courage of your convictions and boycott all companies they have invested in. That may be a bit difficult though, as if reports are correct they are going to invest heavily in solar and or wind power generated electricity.

I am not planning to boycott anything. Nor am I engaged in a moral crusade. I simply make the point that Saudi Arabia is governed by a murderer. That's all.

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I am famiiar with Britain's relationships with Saudi Arabia; I once worked for the Saudia Airline. But as far as I know nobody at Disney, Starbucks, Uber, Facebook or Pfizer has been proven to have a man kidnapped and murdered.

i very much doubt Disney or Facebook order anybody to be murdered Surely not?

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I am not planning to boycott anything. Nor am I engaged in a moral crusade. I simply make the point that Saudi Arabia is governed by a murderer. That's all.

If held a hot honeys escort orgy of 20 fit fit babes and invited you would you go???🤔🤔🤔🤔

Swimming pool champagne bonking in the pool strip shows the whole works
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If held a hot honeys escort orgy of 20 fit fit babes and invited you would you go???🤔🤔🤔🤔

Swimming pool champagne bonking in the pool strip shows the whole works

What's that got to do with the direction football is going? But I'd probably ask who else was going to be there.

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Football is all about commercialism and Erik Ten Haag pointed this out yesterday when he said football should come first but followed by commercialism.  That club is a prime example of what can happen when you pay average players grossly inflated wages and be scared by the fact that somebody might poach them.  Real Madrid poached players with lucrative contracts for many years so it is ironic that they are the losers in this story.

The only real winner is the player.  PSG can pay him all the money in the world and attract players like Messi and Neymar but that doesn’t stop it from being a pointless league.  The Premier League followed by Serie A is fast becoming the best leagues to watch from an actual sporting perspective and due to the fact that you can have upsets. 

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Football is all about commercialism and Erik Ten Haag pointed this out yesterday when he said football should come first but followed by commercialism.  That club is a prime example of what can happen when you pay average players grossly inflated wages and be scared by the fact that somebody might poach them.  Real Madrid poached players with lucrative contracts for many years so it is ironic that they are the losers in this story.

The only real winner is the player.  PSG can pay him all the money in the world and attract players like Messi and Neymar but that doesn’t stop it from being a pointless league.  The Premier League followed by Serie A is fast becoming the best leagues to watch from an actual sporting perspective and due to the fact that you can have upsets.

Some of the new owners are professional sports companies,particularly the Americans but I think there are still plenty who are in it for the vanity (most owners have other  lucrative business interests) and are not that concerned about turning a profit.Alot have got caught up in a cycle of paying the high prices for players to compete with the other top clubs.
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But kids have no interest, and not the point, not everyone has a local non league team and that is not the way for British kids to get into league football.
TV and press exposure means kids only have interest in the big teams these days, a few hundred in a grotty ground holds no appeal.

There are hundreds of non-league teams - unless you're living in a very remote part of the country you will have a local team.

It depends on how old the kids are, but I expect being able to meet an actual footballer will still appeal to most kids.