Hayley-x-x - Eastleigh - A bit too professional

[Cunning Punt]

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Comms: Very efficient. Initial contact was by AW email, brief discussion of services etc, then phone number and later address provided. Booked 30mins @ £100.

Location: Nice top-floor apartment in Eastleigh, with nicely furnished bedroom and reasonable bathroom. As I was going out of the block, some residents were coming in but they were friendly with no death stares (not that that would bother me now anyway). Free on-street parking nearby.

The girl: FAF. Hayley is better looking facially than the photos suggest IMO. She has a slim body with great tits and fantastic arse, plus white skin that glows in the way that many auburn girls' skin does. She is fairly friendly and welcoming.

Services: FK, OWO, RO, protected sex, massage.

Summary of meet: Hayley says she's not going to lick your tonsils on her profile, so this managed my expectations about kissing. I would say her FK will be good enough for most people but I wouldn't say it was DFK in my book.

During RO, she got moist but was silent throughout, so possibly it wasn't doing a lot for her. Though in any case, she clearly prefers giving head rather than receiving it. This is really her forte and, unlike a lot of girls, she is able to change pace depending on what is required.

But there wasn't any eye contact during OWO or really during sex. In cowgirl it's nice if a girl occasionally leans in to kiss you with a bit of talk/encouragement, but Hayley just kept her head up, eyes shut and kept silent, which was a little odd and a bit of a turnoff. Post coital massage was pretty good.

Overview: By all accounts, Hayley is excellent at PSE, and loves deep throating cock and having a facial etc, but she also does claim to provide GFE and, for me, this was a slightly disappointing experience. SPs can have an off day and not feel connected to a client, but I think it was more than this, for Hayley is an experienced SP and I am easy to get along with.

Hayley is extremely attractive with great skills, is personable and very organised, running a tight ship after having done this a long time. But that perhaps was the issue: she was a bit too professional.

While I accept quality of FK is subjective, there was still a lack of key components of GFE: engagement, enthusiasm, eye contact and encouragement. I don't expect fake moans and groans or lots of dirty talk, but most SPs engage a bit during sex. And while not unfriendly or unenthusiastic, there wasn't a particular warmth there. Essentially Hayley was missing all the ingredients that Ava Valentine did provide in a meeting a few weeks later.

Despite Hayley's reputation, I am sanguine enough to put someone's reputation to one side. It's simply that for an experienced and skilled SP offering GFE and charging those rates, I expect more.

I'll get my tin hat, then my coat...

[John987654321]

Sorry to hear you were a bit disappointed. I don't want to be accused of White Knghting for the girl, and I can't claim to know her services well as I've only seen her once myself (just a few weeks ago), but based on that experience I wonder if maybe you were unlucky and caught her on a bad day or if I was lucky and caught her on a good one. With me she initiated kissing in both CG and mish, which I appreciated. That said, you're a more experienced punter than me, perhaps we just have different expectations.

[sunbunny]

That's ruined her stats!

[Whiteknight]

OP a brave review 

Probably an off day. Being too professional is still better than unprofessional.

[Fuzzyduck]

OP a brave review 

Probably an off day. Being too professional is still better than unprofessional.

Brave? I see an honest objective summary of his experience. He should have nothing to fear.

[Whiteknight]

Brave? I see an honest objective summary of his experience. He should have nothing to fear.

Exactly, Brave as in giving a detailed and genuine review on a well known good rating escort that everyone seem to love and highly rated.

Some people will find it useful about the lack of GFE that the OP had experienced, could be a 1 off, could be she have had too many, things could be rather mechanical but in a professional way. 

[bumfan]

Gave up on Haley when she stopped anal. She was right up for it in the early days but now going through the motions, I feel.

[The_Don]

Cunning Punt

IMO the details you added, are useful thanks for sharing:

Your punt, review and rating (IMO)

[contentguy]

That's Hayley off my hotlist, if she's not good enough for Cunning......

 

[Veritas]

Brave? I see an honest objective summary of his experience. He should have nothing to fear.

Couldn’t agree more - after all CP isn’t trying to slate the SP, credits lots of positive aspects but quite rightly based his rating on his overall experience. If we all based our ratings on what prior reviewers had said then the site would become useless fairly quickly. Even the ‘must have been an off day’ views ignore the fact that it is still useful to know that Hayley can have ‘off days’ and that YMMV

[mh]

Gave up on Haley when she stopped anal. She was right up for it in the early days but now going through the motions, I feel.

I thought Anal was the very definition of going through the motions. 

I suppose the day had to come when Hayley got a neutral!

[sunbunny]

30 mins "Neutral" in Christ knows how many hundreds (thousands?) of hours - definitely on the downward slope.

[dubhcarr]

Thanks for the review Mr CP sorry it did not set you alight. I have been in a few 30 min punts recently and noticed that the dynamic is different from a one hour meet. Time is of the essence and all that. Hope you fare better in your next punt. 

[MrMatrix]

Sorry to hear it didnt happen for you OP. A balanced review always merits consideration. However most punters will take an overview and still see her, as indeed I hope to one day. And if my punt is disappointing , Like you, I will say so.
Best of luck on your next punt.

[Derrick101]

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[Fuzzyduck]

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So, she read the review (twice) and tries to blame the punter rather than acknowledging that maybe she's not perfect and sometimes it doesn't work out. I wonder how much of that is her believing her own hype. The OP says you gave an average GFE. Deal with it.

[contentguy]

So, she read the review (twice) and tries to blame the punter rather than acknowledging that maybe she's not perfect and sometimes it doesn't work out. I wonder how much of that is her believing her own hype. The OP says you gave an average GFE. Deal with it.

She appears to have taken her blog down, but she certainly didn't read the review carefully enough.
Her informant probably told her about the comments.

She suggested the OP asked for deepthroat and face fucking - which he didn't.
She also indicated that her detached response was reserved for people she's not into - that's a red flag for me!

Whilst the OP's review wouldn't stop me seeing her (despite my ironic comment above), her blog post certainly put me off.

The OP went for a GFE, she delivered a neutral one, she gets the hump.

[Fuzzyduck]

She appears to have taken her blog down, but she certainly didn't read the review carefully enough.
Her informant probably told her about the comments.

She suggested the OP asked for deepthroat and face fucking - which he didn't.
She also indicated that her detached response was reserved for people she's not into - that's a red flag for me!

Whilst the OP's review wouldn't stop me seeing her (despite my ironic comment above), her blog post certainly put me off.

The OP went for a GFE, she delivered a neutral one, she gets the hump.

Ah I knew I should have copied the text. I wonder if her fanboys race to give her updates. From the other bits of her blog that I briefly glanced at, she comes across as pretty smart and switched on. I like to think she's reflecting on her post.

[contentguy]

Ah I knew I should have copied the text. I wonder if her fanboys race to give her updates. From the other bits of her blog that I briefly glanced at, she comes across as pretty smart and switched on. I like to think she's reflecting on her post.

What do the fanboy tell-tales seek to gain by running with updates.
I had a meet cancelled a while ago because someone told the SP she has a review on here and she decided to stop working for a while.

Indeed, let's hope Hayley's reflecting on her blog and realises she was being a bit too defensive. 
The review isn't that bad!

[Cunning Punt]

Ah I knew I should have copied the text. I wonder if her fanboys race to give her updates. From the other bits of her blog that I briefly glanced at, she comes across as pretty smart and switched on. I like to think she's reflecting on her post.

I wish you had! I would have liked a good laugh. 

Writing a blog getting stroppy over any review shows a lack of class; even if the review has been harsh. Rise above it - particularly as she is so popular anyway.

Secondly, she can't recall our particular meet - to confirm I never asked for deepthroat or anything like that.

Thirdly, if an excuse was indeed that she wasn't into me then that is pathetic. First of all, she doesn't recall who I am and even if she did, then it's HER JOB to act like she's into it - she's an experienced, skilled SP charging fairly high rates. I did my part by being friendly, gentle and clean.

Whilst the OP's review wouldn't stop me seeing her (despite my ironic comment above), her blog post certainly put me off.

Well, yes, that's the irony. I realise my review is going to make little or not difference to punters' choices; I just report as I find and people take from the review what they want or nothing.

[The_Don]

Ah I knew I should have copied the text.

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[Fuzzyduck]

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You are the Don.

[sunbunny]

All this fuss over 30 mins in 2 people's lives - in practice probably nearer 20 mins by the time you've said "Hello", got your kit off, put your kit back on and said "Goodbye"? Punters are fully entitled to their views - and so are SPs. Surprisingly, we're all human beings.

[MrMatrix]

You are the Don.

Isnt he just. What a star.
All said and done this really shouldnt be an issue for Hayley. She has 114 positives and one neutral, this is really a non event in the big picture for her. I for one would book her up tomorrow if it were convenient. She remains a must meet for any serious punter and that includes me.

[Whiteknight]

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Her blog gone 

[The_Don]

Her blog gone 

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=343862.msg3571019#msg3571019

[timsussex]

Her blog gone 

as noted 2 weeks ago in this thread - hence why The Don posted a copy
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[Whiteknight]

as noted 2 weeks ago in this thread - hence why The Don posted a copy
Does your keyboard not have an up arrow ?

Now seen it

Not sure how I missed it, need an eye sight test, last 1 was 2019 

[sunbunny]

If her blog really has gone for good as a result of this, that's a dumb own goal.

[timsussex]

If her blog really has gone for good as a result of this, that's a dumb own goal.

the blog was a bit of an "own goal"; removing it was the best thing she could do (apart from never posting it in the first place but that ship had sailed)

taking it down was an intelligent move, posting it in the first place was a bit dumb - but I suppose she was a bit pissed off at losing her perfect record when she had basically provided everything asked for but just not with the enthusiasm the OP expected.

Its the OPs review so his rating but having read some of his other neutrals I must admit he is a lot more picky than most of us 

[Colston36]

the blog was a bit of an "own goal"; removing it was the best thing she could do (apart from never posting it in the first place but that ship had sailed)

taking it down was an intelligent move, posting it in the first place was a bit dumb - but I suppose she was a bit pissed off at losing her perfect record when she had basically provided everything asked for but just not with the enthusiasm the OP expected.

Its the OPs review so his rating but having read some of his other neutrals I must admit he is a lot more picky than most of us

The amount of money she's making suggests she's pretty damn good with no reason to worry. But then again it's worrying that leads to success.

[Cunning Punt]

I suppose she was a bit pissed off at losing her perfect record when she had basically provided everything asked for but just not with the enthusiasm the OP expected.

Picky perhaps and rating is subjective, yes,, but your comment is rather too kind to the SP and slightly brushes aside my review. Enthusiasm alone is important to a lot of punters and it was a bit more than that anyway, as my review made clear.

No-one else was in the room apart from me and the SP, and as her blog showed, she didn't recall the booking so she doesn't know whether she provided an adequate service or not, and hadn't actually read my review; she was tipped off by a fanboy.

[contentguy]

Picky perhaps and rating is subjective, yes,, but your comment is rather too kind to the SP and slightly brushes aside my review. Enthusiasm alone is important to a lot of punters and it was a bit more than that anyway, as my review made clear.

No-one else was in the room apart from me and the SP, and as her blog showed, she didn't recall the booking so she doesn't know whether she provided an adequate service or not, and hadn't actually read my review; she was tipped off by a fanboy.

Tim had a positive time you had a neutral time.
I’ve not seen Hayley, I had her on my list despite your neutral review.

Then she said on her blog that she’d read your review, twice! 
And justified her ‘intentional’ poor performance based on you wanting a PSE, which your review didn’t suggest you wanted.

I agree with Tim’s comments about her blog.

But his comment about you ‘being picky’, suggests he’s being a fanboy and it’s backfiring as it’s just drawing attention to her incredibly poorly thought out blog post.

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[timsussex]

Picky perhaps and rating is subjective, yes,, but your comment is rather too kind to the SP and slightly brushes aside my review. Enthusiasm alone is important to a lot of punters and it was a bit more than that anyway, as my review made clear.

No-one else was in the room apart from me and the SP, and as her blog showed, she didn't recall the booking so she doesn't know whether she provided an adequate service or not, and hadn't actually read my review; she was tipped off by a fanboy.

Didnt mean to "brush aside your review"  But having a quick look at your many reviews (didnt check all 107!  )  I saw 3 neutrals out of the first 7. Dont think I've ever given a neutral so I perhaps I need to be more critical in the future.

While it wasnt me that pointed out the review to Hayley I do think its a bit unfair to categorise whoever did as a fanboy - didnt realise reviews were confidential. Why would anyone be upset if a girl reads their revies - perhaps I am being naïve  in hoping that if more girls read the revies it might improve services

[MrMatrix]

Didnt mean to "brush aside your review"  But having a quick look at your many reviews (didnt check all 107!  )  I saw 3 neutrals out of the first 7. Dont think I've ever given a neutral so I perhaps I need to be more critical in the future.

While it wasnt me that pointed out the review to Hayley I do think its a bit unfair to categorise whoever did as a fanboy - didnt realise reviews were confidential. Why would anyone be upset if a girl reads their revies - perhaps I am being naïve  in hoping that if more girls read the revies it might improve services

Reviews arent confidential.
Some one must have informed her. Its not unreasonable to assume it was a punter or indeed a regular punter - if thats the case then fanboy would be the correct term.
And I would agree if the WG reads a review on her she then has the chance to up her game. Having said that Hayley needs to do nothing more than be herself. I've seen many reviews on her and I maintain for any serious punter she is a must see. I just hope one day I get time to see her as she remains on my HL after being there some 5 years now.

[Whiteknight]

Reviews arent confidential.
Some one must have informed her. Its not unreasonable to assume it was a punter or indeed a regular punter - if thats the case then fanboy would be the correct term.
And I would agree if the WG reads a review on her she then has the chance to up her game. Having said that Hayley needs to do nothing more than be herself. I've seen many reviews on her and I maintain for any serious punter she is a must see. I just hope one day I get time to see her as she remains on my HL after being there some 5 years now.

Having read the review again, it wasn't a bad one, a lot of good things were said.  Hayley has been on AW for nearly 10 years and 1 neutral here won't affect her business.

Fanboy was the problem, gone running to her and telling her and probably gave her some ultimatum, made her felt the need to defend herself, all unnecessary.

She has been on my HL for years and love the extensive list of services she offers, and she is not overly expensive.

[JonasG]

the blog was a bit of an "own goal"; removing it was the best thing she could do (apart from never posting it in the first place but that ship had sailed)

taking it down was an intelligent move, posting it in the first place was a bit dumb - but I suppose she was a bit pissed off at losing her perfect record when she had basically provided everything asked for but just not with the enthusiasm the OP expected.

Its the OPs review so his rating but having read some of his other neutrals I must admit he is a lot more picky than most of us

I think more people should be like him and be "picky"' in their reviews. Many positives I've seen given on here which in reality give the WG an easy ride.

Being too professional is one of my pet hates actually, especially if you're after GFE punts. Also when it's a top £ priced WG and not a cheap P+D.

[Fuzzyduck]

Didnt mean to "brush aside your review"  But having a quick look at your many reviews (didnt check all 107!  )  I saw 3 neutrals out of the first 7. Dont think I've ever given a neutral so I perhaps I need to be more critical in the future.

While it wasnt me that pointed out the review to Hayley I do think its a bit unfair to categorise whoever did as a fanboy - didnt realise reviews were confidential. Why would anyone be upset if a girl reads their revies - perhaps I am being naïve  in hoping that if more girls read the revies it might improve services

You should ask yourself: why would a punter tell a very experienced and well reviewed SP about a review and identify himself as a UKP member? Personally I just don't talk about reviews or UKP with any SP unless they bring it up. I just say I only know AW, Gumtree etc.

It might have just popped up in conversation with a punter. For example, it might be a newbie who doesn't know any better and talks about seeing her reviews on here. Maybe. But there was only just over a week between the review and the blog post, and Hayley herself said she was away in that time. It is far more likely that someone deliberately called it out to her, either in a meet or in a message. If she wasn't working much in that time it's more likely to be a message. What is the motivation to do that? Perhaps my mind is too narrow but I can only conclude it's some guy who wants to improve his standing in Hayley's eye in some way.

Of course, the other equally likely scenario is that it wasn't a punter at all who told her and sent her a copy. SPs read reviews, too.

On your other point about CP's reviews, I acknowledge you're trying take an objective viewpoint but suggesting that a reviewer is being "picky" is not a good look, particularly when your last review is of this SP.

[contentguy]

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On your other point about CP's reviews, I acknowledge you're trying take an objective viewpoint but suggesting that a reviewer is being "picky" is not a good look, particularly when your last review is of this SP.

Scroll down to see his review of Hayley 4 month's earlier.
But to be fair, that was 3 years since his last review of Hayley.

He wasn't the fanboy who told Hayley about the review (honest!), though he thinks doing so improves services.