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Offline mr.bluesky

No surprise there then. We've had a woman playing the part. The next logical step was to have a non white actor playing the part.
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No surprise there then. We've had a woman playing the part. The next logical step was to have a non white actor playing the part.

Oh here we go that didn’t take long  :mad: what’s your issue with a black actor playing Dr Who  :unknown:
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Offline Gordon Bennett

The show has become unwatchable. You get punched in the face by the box ticking cast and woke storylines AND then John Fucking Bishop pops up! It's just too much too stomach.

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The show has become unwatchable. You get punched in the face by the box ticking cast and woke storylines AND then John Fucking Bishop pops up! It's just too much too stomach.

I suspect that you are not target audience!!  Not that I am either, I have not watched much of it recently.

I do find it amusing that people object so much to "box ticking" casts but presumably thought it was fine when casts were pretty much exclusively white and middle class - despite the fact that has clearly not been realistic for decades.

Personally I think the pendulum has swing a tad too far and non white or gay/lesbian characters are probably over represented now, but us white chaps can hardly complain having had the upper hand for so long.  I expect that it will adjust back and hopefully it will all stop being something that is thought about and we will just naturally have a representation on screen that mirrors society.

Oh and I quite like John Bishop!!

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Oh here we go that didn’t take long  :mad: what’s your issue with a black actor playing Dr Who  :unknown:

Did he say he had an issue with it?

Offline mr.bluesky

Oh here we go that didn’t take long  :mad: what’s your issue with a black actor playing Dr Who  :unknown:

As Gordon Bennett says a box ticking excersise by the woke BBC. You could bet your bottom dollar after having a woman playing the part this was going to happen. He may turn out to be a brilliant Doctor Who . 
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As Gordon Bennett says a box ticking excersise by the woke BBC. You could bet your bottom dollar after having a woman playing the part this was going to happen. He may turn out to be a brilliant Doctor Who .

Perhaps he got the job on his acting merits  :unknown: I would like to think so.
Maybe I’m naive or ignorant (or both) to think that. I don’t buy into
this whole box ticking exercise. Just my view/opinion.
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Offline alabama1

Oh here we go that didn’t take long  :mad: what’s your issue with a black actor playing Dr Who  :unknown:
Maybe show some respect and  stop poking your nose into a primarily punters forum. If you need to vent , maybe go over the road  :unknown:

Offline King Nuts

One of the more depressing things about the modern age is that everyone has to shout about how good, or virtuous they are. Or which level of under-represented minority they represent or are sticking up for in the hegemony of disadvantage.

Why does this have to be announced in advance anyway? Why don't they just pick the guy for the lead, start filming the fucking series, and let it appear on TV, without a lot of fanfare?

I mean, there's plenty of TV series go into production where they don't make a song and dance about who the lead actor is. They just fucking get on with it.

I don't question whether this guy is right for the job or not. I'm sure he's a very accomplished actor.

I do question the motives of the BBC in even mentioning it. The sooner we start looking at each other as fellow human beings and not as different races within the context of some league table of disadvantage or expectation, the sooner all this racism bollocks will go away.



Offline mr.bluesky

Perhaps he got the job on his acting merits  :unknown: I would like to think so.
Maybe I’m naive or ignorant (or both) to think that. I don’t buy into
this whole box ticking exercise. Just my view/opinion.

And you are entitled to your opinion just like everyone on here is and not everyone is going to agree with each other but one thing I can assure you is and that  is I am not a racist  . Not that I'm bothered who gets the part ( excuse the pun) as I never watch it anyway.

Offline willie loman

As Gordon Bennett says a box ticking excersise by the woke BBC. You could bet your bottom dollar after having a woman playing the part this was going to happen. He may turn out to be a brilliant Doctor Who .

i have a premonition about who might be the next dr who, but able bodied white boys and girls have had a good run for their money. by the way they announce these changes in advance for commercial reasons its called pr, some people dont seem to understand how business works.

Offline MilleMiglia

The show has become unwatchable. You get punched in the face by the box ticking cast and woke storylines AND then John Fucking Bishop pops up! It's just too much too stomach.

I stopped watching when Tom Baker left. Nevertheless, I feel your pain. To ease your torment, here's a link to my favourite companion:

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Offline alabama1

I stopped watching when Tom Baker left. Nevertheless, I feel your pain. To ease your torment, here's a link to my favourite companion:

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Where the fuck have your reviews been these last 6 years  :unknown:

Offline MilleMiglia

Where the fuck have your reviews been these last 6 years  :unknown:

Run along son.

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Offline mr.bluesky

BBC still ticking boxes

I'm only surprised that the BBC haven't replaced any of the Top Gear presenters yet, after all you have 3 heterosexual,  macho men presenting the show. They missed an opportunity there after Clarkson, Hammond and May left the show. Three male presenters replaced by another three male presenters what were they thinking of  :sarcastic:

Offline Adoniron

The Doctor is an alien from another planet who changes form every few years. There is nothing that says he has to be portrayed as a white, heterosexual, male human being.
I think a bigger issue is the lamentable quality of the scripts over recent series.

Offline King Nuts

The Doctor is an alien from another planet who changes form every few years. There is nothing that says he has to be portrayed as a white, heterosexual, male human being.
I think a bigger issue is the lamentable quality of the scripts over recent series.

True enough. Maybe for the next incarnation, the Doctor could come back as a fridge.

Agreed about scripts. But UK tv drama has been in the grip of the Woke for some years now. Any variations from the approved narrative are not tolerated.

TBH I find it all unwatchable.

Offline WelshClipper

I loved Dr Who in the 70’s, even the doldrum days in the 90’s. It was fun, it was entertainment. It was quick, it was witty and it didn’t take itself too seriously. I even enjoyed the Dark Wolf days with Tennant, Tate etc.

I quite enjoyed the early Mat Smith episodes with Amy Pond and was more than happy with the announcement of Jody Whittaker as the first woman.

What went wrong for me is the dialogue became too intense, too much mumbo jumbo, too much being saved by the sonic screwdriver.

....and too much actors just standing around talking bollocks about how they are all about to die and the world will end. Yawn !

I wish the new guy all the best, maybe he will bring a bit of sparkle to what is now a dull 21st century bollocks show.

I blame that cult Danish murder mystery of 2008. Made every subsequent TV drama miserable. Or the other extreme, trivial like Ant and Dec. No middle ground any more. Hell, even comedy shows are miserable today.......

Seriously I find reading UKP threads more interesting.....  :)
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I loved Dr Who in the 70’s, even the doldrum days in the 90’s. It was fun, it was entertainment. It was quick, it was witty and it didn’t take itself too seriously. I even enjoyed the Dark Wolf days with Tennant, Tate etc.

I quite enjoyed the early Mat Smith episodes with Amy Pond and was more than happy with the announcement of Jody Whittaker as the first woman.

What went wrong for me is the dialogue became too intense, too much mumbo jumbo, too much being saved by the sonic screwdriver.

....and too much actors just standing around talking bollocks about how they are all about to die and the world will end. Yawn !

I wish the new guy all the best, maybe he will bring a bit of sparkle to what is now a dull 21st century bollocks show.

I blame that cult Danish murder mystery of 2008. Made every subsequent TV drama miserable. Or the other extreme, trivial like Ant and Dec. No middle ground any more. Hell, even comedy shows are miserable today.......

Seriously I find reading UKP threads more interesting.....  :)
+Me tooo ;) :lol: :lol: :lol: :D :D

Offline JamesKW

I stopped watching when Tom Baker left. Nevertheless, I feel your pain. To ease your torment, here's a link to my favourite companion:

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Same as me,when you are in your mid teens and you grow out of Dr Who,if I am not watching it I couldnt care less who is  acting in it.

Offline spiralnotebook

The burning question is will the tardis have BLM graffitied across its doors and a rainbow beacon merrily flashing away?
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Offline DouglasReynholm

Fans can rest assured it will remain a pile of shit.

You can currently watch some good episodes on ForcesTV.

Offline jeanphillipe

I've never been a die hard Dr who fan. I found the concept of Daleks a terrible villain.

I have watched it here and there. Mostly when the ginger dude was the doctor .  Some of the Christmas specials and standalone episodes have been pretty good.

The continuity is my main issue with it and recently its just become a giant box ticking exercise. Political agenda before story.

IMO I dont care if the new Dr is Black but it wont save this show with the arc they seem to have gone with the current doctor. Everything prior was made irrelevant .

To save the show, maybe, it needs a complete reboot. The viewing figure show its lost a lot of diehard fans.

My favourites villain : The Weeping Angel's, terrifying concept !

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When are we going to have an Indian Dr Who. I've met a few Indian doctors, let me guess the BBC think it's a stereotype. Next logical step surely would have been trans.

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I loved Dr Who in the 70’s, even the doldrum days in the 90’s. It was fun, it was entertainment. It was quick, it was witty and it didn’t take itself too seriously. I even enjoyed the Dark Wolf days with Tennant, Tate etc.

I quite enjoyed the early Mat Smith episodes with Amy Pond and was more than happy with the announcement of Jody Whittaker as the first woman.

What went wrong for me is the dialogue became too intense, too much mumbo jumbo, too much being saved by the sonic screwdriver.

....and too much actors just standing around talking bollocks about how they are all about to die and the world will end. Yawn !

I wish the new guy all the best, maybe he will bring a bit of sparkle to what is now a dull 21st century bollocks show.

I blame that cult Danish murder mystery of 2008. Made every subsequent TV drama miserable. Or the other extreme, trivial like Ant and Dec. No middle ground any more. Hell, even comedy shows are miserable today.......

Seriously I find reading UKP threads more interesting.....  :)
People standing around talking bollocks was down to Russell T. Davies, he's no Dennis Potter. That said I thought Queer as Folk was good back in the day, it's aged like milk.

Offline JamesKW

I thought Queer as Folk was good back in the day, it's aged like milk.

It was good and both of the actors went on to do very well for themselves.


Offline wilbers

Jodie Whittaker is a good actress, just not a good Doctor Who.  Almost all of the blame for that is firmly at the writers door.

The new one, I haven't seen in anything so have nothing to go on for if he is a good actor or not, but Russell T. Davies had a good run as showrunner before, so no reason to think he can't do it again.

Offline Bumbuttass

I have no problems the Doctor being any gender, colour or having any sexual orientation as the character is an alien who is just presenting itself as a human being, and humans come in all shapes and sizes.  My problem with it is the writing, the ‘Britishness’ has gone as the programme is now being sold internationally so the writing is reflecting that.  I’m sure it’s a good bit of business from the BBC’s point of view but I’m guessing it has somewhat alienated its original core audience.

I’ve never been a huge fan but did enjoy the one series when Christopher Eccleston was in the big seat.

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Offline mace-window

I suspect that you are not target audience!!  Not that I am either, I have not watched much of it recently.

I do find it amusing that people object so much to "box ticking" casts but presumably thought it was fine when casts were pretty much exclusively white and middle class - despite the fact that has clearly not been realistic for decades.

Personally I think the pendulum has swing a tad too far and non white or gay/lesbian characters are probably over represented now, but us white chaps can hardly complain having had the upper hand for so long.  I expect that it will adjust back and hopefully it will all stop being something that is thought about and we will just naturally have a representation on screen that mirrors society.

Oh and I quite like John Bishop!!

Oh here we go that didn’t take long  :mad: what’s your issue with a black actor playing Dr Who  :unknown:

The thing is that the creators and the BBC are changing white established characters to non-white, female or a more diverse cast and more focused on that than actually writing a good doctor who show. That and these woke people behind BBC are too lazy to make another show like Luther (which was a very good original show) where a non-white, female or diverse actor/actress or show can stand on their own merits.  But instead, they want to change everything about an established British show for their left ideology and destroy anything that is the British identity.

BBC care more about ideology than making a good show these days and this new Doctor Who actor proves that for now. That said if he becomes a very very good Doctor Who then they had really good reason to hire this actor. For me, if the main established character's sex or race is changed from the main source but the actor/actress did an amazing job then the creators had a good reason to cast that person.

Does anyone remember when Heath Ledger was announced to be cast as the Joker in the Dark Knight? I remember many Batman fans saying this was a terrible choice as Heath was too young and too pretty to play the joker. Once the film was out everyone took what they said back. So I don't think people care if a main established character's sex or race is changed if the actor/actress was great. But let me be real this is rarely the case these days. And a great actor can't save a bad script - case in point Doctor Who.

I am just annoyed that these Woke companies are not using diversity to help minorities and put them in high positions but they only care to trick this diversity check box and do this for their ideology regardless if minorities are in bad established shows or not. On top of some times, they pick minorities that aren't qualified for the job and therefore make us look worst.

Side note: I stopped watching in the Peter Capaldi Doctor Who era which I think most old school Doctor Who fans did as well. The woke stuff and bad writing were already in that era and I think BBC put a female/black-gay doctor in the later eras to hide the bad writing.
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Side note: I stopped watching in the Peter Capaldi Doctor Who era which I think most old school Doctor Who fans did as well. The woke stuff and bad writing were already in that era and I think BBC put a female/black-gay doctor in the later eras to hide the bad writing.

I had forgotten Peter Capaldi, nearly every storyline was appalling. He started the "Stand around and debate the fate of the world whilst I flash my sonic screwdriver" mularky.

I dont dislike Capaldi, remember his flaky character in Local Hero. But his time as Dr Who was a bad choice in my view.

Offline mace-window

I had forgotten Peter Capaldi, nearly every storyline was appalling. He started the "Stand around and debate the fate of the world whilst I flash my sonic screwdriver" mularky.

I dont dislike Capaldi, remember his flaky character in Local Hero. But his time as Dr Who was a bad choice in my view.

Peter Capaldi is an amazing actor. Him on the Thick of it and the spin off film (can't remember the name of it) is top notch. But even he could not save a show like Doctor Who.

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Maybe show some respect and  stop poking your nose into a primarily punters forum. If you need to vent , maybe go over the road  :unknown:
Where the fuck have your reviews been these last 6 years  :unknown:
I think you should concentrate on the topic of this thread instead of telling people they shouldn't be posting on this forum or questioning where their reviews are. 

 

Offline radioman33

They have ruined Dr.Who,I remember watching it as a kid was fantastic,it’s just typical isn’t it.TalkTv and Talkradio has  none of this bull shit,says it all as it is,aren’t we all just sick of it.

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They have ruined Dr.Who,I remember watching it as a kid was fantastic,it’s just typical isn’t it.TalkTv and Talkradio has  none of this bull shit,says it all as it is,aren’t we all just sick of it.

Apples and oranges. Do you expect a science-fiction television programme to "tell it as it is"?

Offline radioman33

Apples and oranges. Do you expect a science-fiction television programme to "tell it as it is"?

I never watch Dr.Who....It would be great to have a show without fear of upsetting the woke brigade.

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I never watch Dr.Who....It would be great to have a show without fear of upsetting the woke brigade.

Do you have an issue with a black actor playing Doctor Who for the first time in close to 60 years?

Offline radioman33

Do you have an issue with a black actor playing Doctor Who for the first time in close to 60 years?
Yes


Offline Bumbuttass

Yes

I need to ask, why? The character is an alien who just projects as a human, why is a black actor an issue for you?

Offline radioman33

I need to ask, why? The character is an alien who just projects as a human, why is a black actor an issue for you?
Box ticking exercise typical bbc.

Offline Bumbuttass

Box ticking exercise typical bbc.

Is your objection with the BBC ‘box ticking’ or the black guy as Dr Who? 

Offline DouglasReynholm

Is your objection with the BBC ‘box ticking’
You'd be surprised how many girls do big black cock box ticking - loads of them want to try it at least once.

The point is, Dr Who is crap and has been for a long time. It needs better stories not woke bullshit. It's lost all sense of what it once was.

Offline jeanphillipe

A man ? I thought you said you were from Iran

Offline DouglasReynholm

A man ? I thought you said you were from Iran
Quite, that proves my point jeanphillipe: that episode will never be shown on telly again because of the woke tranny brigade. Can't even be streamed on All 4.  :dash:

Offline mr.bluesky

When are we going to have an Indian Dr Who. I've met a few Indian doctors, let me guess the BBC think it's a stereotype. Next logical step surely would have been trans.

Nah gender neutral would surely have been the next choice  :unknown:

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Nah gender neutral would surely have been the next choice  :unknown:
Dr Who Am I?

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Quite, that proves my point jeanphillipe: that episode will never be shown on telly again because of the woke tranny brigade. Can't even be streamed on All 4.  :dash:
It's S3 Episode 4. Bo Selecta missing as well due to blackface.

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