How to approach a civvie for an arrangement

[Alburn]

Hey guys,

This might be a bit out there, but thought you guys would be the best to comment.

I have a young Brazilian cleaner who comes to my flat weekly and as I was transferring her money last week I Googled her name and realised that she’s an aspiring model (who seems to scrub up incredibly well in her photos) but works as a cleaner and nanny full time alongside her studies.

Do you guys think there’s a chance she’d be up for some sort of arrangement taking into account her circumstances? And how would you guys approach the subject with her?

[RedKettle]

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=282797.0

[willie loman]

this a recurrent topic, and one that features in various porn clips, count me out.

[daviemac]

Hey guys,

This might be a bit out there, but thought you guys would be the best to comment.

I have a young Brazilian cleaner who comes to my flat weekly and as I was transferring her money last week I Googled her name and realised that she’s an aspiring model (who seems to scrub up incredibly well in her photos) but works as a cleaner and nanny full time alongside her studies.

Do you guys think there’s a chance she’d be up for some sort of arrangement taking into account her circumstances? And how would you guys approach the subject with her?

Shows what sort of bloke you are, looking to take advantage of your cleaner just because she's an wannabe model. In any case I believe sexual harassment is illegal.

[shed]

This gets worse 

[RedKettle]

I like to think that one day a thread like this will have an OP asking how he can help his cleaner/other poorly paid worker develop a career/support her family but without appearing that he wants sex in return - because he just wants to help!!

Maybe I will write it as a rom com.

[lillythesavage]

Hey guys,

 And how would you guys approach the subject with her

You don,t, plain and simple, if that is something she wanted to do she would not be cleaning.

Plenty of places to find sexual arrangements with willing people, nosing into your cleaners life and thinking you could pay to fuck her?  And this would help her ?

[Alburn]

Fair enough guys. Clearly I’ve been watching too much porn and it’s frazzled my rational brain to create dodgy fantasies

[willie loman]

You don,t, plain and simple, if that is something she wanted to do she would not be cleaning.

Plenty of places to find sexual arrangements with willing people, nosing into your cleaners life and thinking you could pay to fuck her?  And this would help her ?

not strictly true, plenty of part time hookers work as home helps, in care homes etc , and where there is social interaction there will be sexual interaction, nannies, gardeners, private tutors, all feature in divorce cases,

[shed]

not strictly true, plenty of part time hookers work as home helps, in care homes etc , and where there is social interaction there will be sexual interaction, nannies, gardeners, private tutors, all feature in divorce cases,

You can quote examples from experience?

[daviemac]

not strictly true, plenty of part time hookers work as home helps, in care homes etc , and where there is social interaction there will be sexual interaction, nannies, gardeners, private tutors, all feature in divorce cases,

So you condone a woman being sexually harassed in the workplace.     There's a world of difference between asking an employee out on a date if you get on well and propositioning her to prostitute herself.

[lillythesavage]

not strictly true, plenty of part time hookers work as home helps, in care homes etc , and where there is social interaction there will be sexual interaction, nannies, gardeners, private tutors, all feature in divorce cases,

Agree, they do, but keep both things separate.

[King Nuts]

Hey guys,

This might be a bit out there, but thought you guys would be the best to comment.

I have a young Brazilian cleaner who comes to my flat weekly and as I was transferring her money last week I Googled her name and realised that she’s an aspiring model (who seems to scrub up incredibly well in her photos) but works as a cleaner and nanny full time alongside her studies.

Do you guys think there’s a chance she’d be up for some sort of arrangement taking into account her circumstances? And how would you guys approach the subject with her?

I honestly think you shouldn't even hint at it with her. It could all go very wrong, quite easily.

I mean, it's not like there's a shortage of 'official' tarts in the world.

And one of the things one pays for with a tart, is the ability to walk away afterwards, the transaction having formed a discrete event that you don't have to revisit if you don't want to.

Whereas with your cleaner, you'll still presumably want her to come and clean every week. What if she starts doing a crap job because she knows she could get away with it?


Some years back, I had a young Romanian woman cleaner. She did a bang-up job, once a week, for something like a tenner an hour, which she was happy with. There was something quite saucy about her, and the thought did cross my mind that she could earn at least ten times that as an escort. I'm pretty sure it had crossed her mind too, and she'd clearly decided against doing that.

Which is why I never discussed the matter with her.

[Ghost89]

Creep. Plain and simple.

[king tarzan]

Hey guys,

This might be a bit out there, but thought you guys would be the best to comment.

I have a young Brazilian cleaner who comes to my flat weekly and as I was transferring her money last week I Googled her name and realised that she’s an aspiring model (who seems to scrub up incredibly well in her photos) but works as a cleaner and nanny full time alongside her studies.

Do you guys think there’s a chance she’d be up for some sort of arrangement taking into account her circumstances? And how would you guys approach the subject with her?

There are women who respect there bodies
So respect that..
Holding two jobs settles it whether to ask or not

Simpletto

[GingerNuts]

There are women who respect there bodies
So respect that..
Holding two jobs settles it whether to ask or not

Simpletto

It's disgusting behaviour to harass a woman for sex (paid or otherwise) however many jobs she has.

[Lou2019]

And from a female perspective, this is predatory behaviour you’re a dickhead 

[king tarzan]

It's disgusting behaviour to harass a woman for sex (paid or otherwise) however many jobs she has.

When you've paid a woman for sex with mutual consent and she's consented to agreed services IMHO YES YOU ARE ENTITLED..
whether she likes it or not..
Otherwise the woman shouldn't agree and the man moves on

Simpletto

[Lou2019]

When you've paid a woman for sex with mutual consent and she's consented to agreed services IMHO YES YOU ARE ENTITLED..
whether she likes it or not..
Otherwise the woman shouldn't agree and the man moves on

Simpletto

ENTITLED, seriously your attitude really stinks

[king tarzan]

ENTITLED, seriously your attitude really stinks

I've paid she agreed and she should deliver..

Why should I back down to porky pies??

Maybe your a service or time thief then too??

[Lou2019]

I've paid she agreed and she should deliver..

Why should I back down to porky pies??

Maybe your a service or time thief then too??

I repeat your attitude stinks!

*And it’s you’re not your

[king tarzan]

I repeat your attitude stinks!

*And it’s you’re not your

Stop waving the flag for lying thieving escorts!!
You are a dishonest yourself that's why you love dishonesty!!

Difference between us I'm honest!!

Something you will never be!!

[Lou2019]

Stop waving the flag for lying thieving escorts!!
You are a dishonest yourself that's why you love dishonesty!!

Difference between us I'm honest!!

Something you will never be!!

Course you are darling   

[RedKettle]

Course you are darling   

I think you need to calm down.  On another thread you started an argument with someone who was agreeing with you and here KT is saying in his own strange way that punters should get what they agreed and paid for.  If you take away how it was expressed the basic point is right.

I am not a mod and might be slapped down for this but you seem to be winding yourself up.

[Mkhelen]

She could slap your face and tell you to fuck off!!
She could tell your wife / girlfriend / OH?
Her boyfriend or husband might have an issue with it?

She could report you to the other cleaners and say your are predatory sexual harassment ?

Alternatively
You could ask a submissive escort to clean your house and suck your knob for a fee and if it's regular weekly she might be able to do a deal

Which is consensual and legal

[Lou2019]

I think you need to calm down.  On another thread you started an argument with someone who was agreeing with you and here KT is saying in his own strange way that punters should get what they agreed and paid for.  If you take away how it was expressed the basic point is right.

I am not a mod and might be slapped down for this but you seem to be winding yourself up.

It’s a forum everyone has different views and opinions it would be pretty dull otherwise. Doesn’t mean I have to calm down just because you don’t agree with what I think.
It’s not your place to moderate me.
I stand by comment about entitlement.

[king tarzan]

I think you need to calm down.  On another thread you started an argument with someone who was agreeing with you and here KT is saying in his own strange way that punters should get what they agreed and paid for.  If you take away how it was expressed the basic point is right.

I am not a mod and might be slapped down for this but you seem to be winding yourself up.

Yes thanks for clarifying my point in Simpletto terms 👍👍👍

[JontyR]

I stand by comment about entitlement.

And I concur. In any sexual situation the individual has the right to change their mind at any point. Even if it is a paid situation. The only difference is that in a paid situation then some recompense should be made.

And before anyone gets on their high horse, the amount of times this is likely to happen compared in number or perenctage terms is so small that most of us will never encounter it and if you do its probably something to do with punters hygeine or behaviour.

I'll protect anyones rights. But wiht rights come responsibilities, the entitled think they have one but not the other.   

[GingerNuts]

When you've paid a woman for sex with mutual consent and she's consented to agreed services IMHO YES YOU ARE ENTITLED..
whether she likes it or not..
Otherwise the woman shouldn't agree and the man moves on

Simpletto

I've paid she agreed and she should deliver..

Why should I back down to porky pies??

Maybe your a service or time thief then too??

Stop waving the flag for lying thieving escorts!!
You are a dishonest yourself that's why you love dishonesty!!

Difference between us I'm honest!!

Something you will never be!!

Escorts offer their services for a fee, not what this thread is about.

Even if you've paid a woman for sex she can change her mind at any time, carrying on after that point is rape. The only thing you should feel entitled to is a refund.

[king tarzan]

Escorts offer their services for a fee, not what this thread is about.

Even if you've paid a woman for sex she can change her mind at any time, carrying on after that point is rape. The only thing you should feel entitled to is a refund.

I do ask for refund or cause a fuss till I get my money back..

Seem some on here are thief sympathisers..
Good luck to the he whores who are fleecing your money..
Sad soft pathetic men

[scutty brown]

I do ask for refund or cause a fuss till I get my money back..

Seem some on here are thief sympathisers..
Good luck to the he whores who are fleecing your money..
Sad soft pathetic men

Money??  I thought you paid your females in mangoes and bananas.
But that is nothing to do with trying to coerce your cleaner into prostitution

[king tarzan]

Money??  I thought you paid your females in mangoes and bananas.
But that is nothing to do with trying to coerce your cleaner into prostitution

Mango yum yum 👅👅👅👅😋😋😋😋😋👅👅👅
The taste of my banana only they can tell 😂😂😂😂😂

[JontyR]

Good luck to the he whores

He whores? So are you seeing Pre-ops? or Donkeys? Or pre-ops like Donkeys?

[mikecee]

And from a female perspective, this is predatory behaviour you’re a dickhead 

+1

[king tarzan]

He whores? So are you seeing Pre-ops? or Donkeys? Or pre-ops like Donkeys?

T was missing
Ruus cluut boombacluut maan for 🦊 alertness 🥊🥊👊👊

[daviemac]

I do ask for refund or cause a fuss till I get my money back..

Seem some on here are thief sympathisers..
Good luck to the he whores who are fleecing your money..
Sad soft pathetic men

This thread is about a bloke propositioning his cleaner for her to prostitute herself, why are you bringing escorts who openly advertise as such into it.   

[mills_and_bhuna]

When you've paid a woman for sex with mutual consent and she's consented to agreed services IMHO YES YOU ARE ENTITLED..
whether she likes it or not..
Otherwise the woman shouldn't agree and the man moves on

Simpletto

Seriously?
You are entitled to moan.
You are entitled to communicate your displeasure in a non-threatening manner.
You are not entitled to services agreed beforehand if she has changed her mind.
It may seem unfair to you but you don't know why she's changed her mind.
It could be she's dishonest.
It could be she's fearful.
You don't know.
And why you would want to avail yourself of her services knowing that is anyone's guess.
So.
Anything but simpletto.

[king tarzan]

This thread is about a bloke propositioning his cleaner for her to prostitute herself, why are you bringing escorts who openly advertise as such into it.   

In response to Gingernuts paid or otherwise..
Comment

[king tarzan]

Seriously?
You are entitled to moan.
You are entitled to communicate your displeasure in a non-threatening manner.
You are not entitled to services agreed beforehand if she has changed her mind.
It may seem unfair to you but you don't know why she's changed her mind.
It could be she's dishonest.
It could be she's fearful.
You don't know.
And why you would want to avail yourself of her services knowing that is anyone's guess.
So.
Anything but simpletto.

Say that when your spending hundreds of pounds an hour..

Simpletto

[daviemac]

Seriously?

Are you for real, what part of reply #35 did you not understand.   

[daviemac]

In response to Gingernuts paid or otherwise..
Comment

You have selected one part of Gingernuts' post, read it and comment on it in the context it was written, do not select the part that suits your agenda.

It's disgusting behaviour to harass a woman for sex (paid or otherwise) however many jobs she has.

The highlighted part is his main point, if you can't understand that then don't post on the thread.

Edit

Just to make sure you and others understand, the OP of this is not paying hundreds of pounds and getting ripped off by escorts, he want to coerce his cleaner into prostitution.

[RedKettle]

It’s a forum everyone has different views and opinions it would be pretty dull otherwise. Doesn’t mean I have to calm down just because you don’t agree with what I think.
It’s not your place to moderate me.
I stand by comment about entitlement.

I was not moderating you - I even said I am not a mod.  I was giving some friendly advice, on that other thread you ripped the head off someone agreeing with you and kept ripping after he and I pointed that out.  Traditionally WGs on this forum get banned and I wanted to head that off.  More advice for you to ignore and get angry about - perhaps get better at recognising who is on your side and stop being angry at everyone.

[Lou2019]

I was not moderating you - I even said I am not a mod.  I was giving some friendly advice, on that other thread you ripped the head off someone agreeing with you and kept ripping after he and I pointed that out.  Traditionally WGs on this forum get banned and I wanted to head that off.  More advice for you to ignore and get angry about - perhaps get better at recognising who is on your side and stop being angry at everyone.

Yes you are trying to moderate me, it’s not your place, just leave me be with my views/opinions,  I don’t understand why you are so concerned with me I’m allowed a view/opinion as much as the next person. Traditionally WGs get banned when not following the rules just like any other member, and in the few years I’ve been here I’ve followed the rules.

[tp69]

Jesus OP. You're asking us how you should go about trying to coerce a YOUNG girl into prostitution. Go down to your local police station and turn yourself in before anyone gets hurt.

At the very least, find her a job with someone else because the situation is not healthy.

[RedKettle]

Yes you are trying to moderate me, it’s not your place, just leave me be with my views/opinions,  I don’t understand why you are so concerned with me I’m allowed a view/opinion as much as the next person. Traditionally WGs get banned when not following the rules just like any other member, and in the few years I’ve been here I’ve followed the rules.

OK I am out!

[LLPunting]

Jesus OP. You're asking us how you should go about trying to coerce a YOUNG girl into prostitution. Go down to your local police station and turn yourself in before anyone gets hurt.

At the very least, find her a job with someone else because the situation is not healthy.

Well said.
OP, despite your weak retraction, if you continue to believe that civvy women you fancy are just auditioning for your own Indecent Proposal then best you seek counselling before you end up nicked and on a register.

[Ghost89]

The OP hasn’t made a further comment since. He’s been today too.

[RedKettle]

The OP hasn’t made a further comment since. He’s been today too.

he came back on at reply 7 above!

he might just have been very naive and having read the comments realised that.  This site helps us all learn.

[Ghost89]

he came back on at reply 7 above!

he might just have been very naive and having read the comments realised that.  This site helps us all learn.

I did see that but that was days ago. Since then things have got a bit heated. Made me wonder if this was just a troll thread.

[JamesKW]

Shows what sort of bloke you are, looking to take advantage of your cleaner just because she's an wannabe model. In any case I believe sexual harassment is illegal.

Exactly,and when it comes to taking away her job he could potentially look forward to a visit from the boys in blue.