Chanelle – Kings Lover - Finsbury Square

[Global_Punter]

Folks let it go, from experience the SP might read the thread or another SP will and info her.

I'm not sure how she will react to it, but definitely something with change - hopefully all this back & forth doesn't muddle things up.

PP has a talent for finding lovely ladies and reviews them well, if you don't like the review move on to another one!

[Kool Keef]

Folks let it go, from experience the SP might read the thread or another SP will and info her.

I'm not sure how she will react to it, but definitely something with change - hopefully all this back & forth doesn't muddle things up.

PP has a talent for finding lovely ladies and reviews them well, if you don't like the review move on to another one!

Didn't have a problem with the review, it's the action afterwards that myself & some other members didn't like.

[puntingpumping1920]

If you look at Black Label's roster, you will notice that nearly all SPs don't have an independent profile.

That's by design as they have a strict price policy.

This SP has an independent profile - External Link/Members Only

She charges £400/ hr via Kommons, if you showed Black Label that price they would probably take her off their website.

If you look at Kings Lover's roster you can see that they don't have a strict price policy.

It's not a issue with KL in representing models that charge lower rates via other channels.

The angle of me ratting/ snitching doesn't make sense with regards to Kings Lover.

Move on, find a new slant

[JackSaint]

If you look at Black Label's roster, you will notice that nearly all SPs don't have an independent profile.

That's by design as they have a strict price policy.

This SP has an independent profile - External Link/Members Only

She charges £400/ hr via Kommons, if you showed Black Label that price they would probably take her off their website.

If you look at Kings Lover's roster you can see that they don't have a strict price policy.

It's not a issue with KL in representing models that charge lower rates via other channels.

The angle of me ratting/ snitching doesn't make sense with regards to Kings Lover.

Move on, find a new slant

Mate, they aren't models, in this case a rough ex reality show skank, they are prostitutes/whores/hookers, agencies, particularly high end rip off agencies call them models.

[PatMacGroin]

Once again you have side stepped the relevant details and followed up with supporting comments about how good and fair KL are as an Agency

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The question is why did you feel the need to run and tell them about "this issue" as soon as possible?
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First of all it’s not an issue. 

I said "this issue" in quotes, because that's the way you described the situation in your previous post here. You obviously felt it was an issue of some kind, otherwise why did you feel the need to run and tell them as soon as possible?

I've spoken to them about other girls from other agents.

Exactly, that sounds like part of the problem. You regard these agencies as "friends"  and feel the need to report back to them about the activities of various WG's. Whoever runs these agencies they are not your friends. They are the modern equivalent of digital pimps. They earn their living off the backs of prostitutes. 

 
 
Finessed = Conned   

This girl is available via A/W for £700/ hr - External Link/Members Only
 
The agency cut is fair.   

I would book her via KL.   

They will handle the booking professionally 

I know if I have a problem with the booking KL will try and resolve it

So you are saying that paying Diva £300 p/h for a WG that also advertises elsewhere for £180 is being "conned/finessed". (The £120 mark up makes 40% of the £300 cover charge.)

However, if you pay KL £1000 p/h for a WG that advertises elsewhere for £700 that is "fair"? (The £300 mark up makes 30% of the £1000 cover charge).

You are saying KL is "fair", but Diva is "finessing" people, because there's a 10% difference in the mark up for some of their girls? Even though this very review is about a WG that you saw through KL with a mark-up of somewhere between 40-60% on her other profile (a profile that you have assured us they already knew about). It amazes me that you are still going on about how good and fair they are. 

You still haven't explained how or why you think booking through any agency adds value. From my perspective they are all ripping punters off. I cannot see what value these guys are providing by marking up WG's that can be found cheaper elsewhere. 

This should be my last post in this thread. From your previous responses you clearly have no intention of providing a direct answer, so this thread has just been going round in circles for a while. Others may disagree but this thread has made it clear you have too close a relationship with your "friends" running some of these agencies. Even if they didn't know your UKP alias before this review, they would have to be pretty dumb not to recognise you now.

[Thepacifist]

She has a nice arse. Added to the hot list 

[puntingpumping1920]

You obviously felt it was an issue of some kind, otherwise why did you feel the need to run and tell them as soon as possible?

 
KL is only an intermediary to the process

When I said I’m confirming with them that means I’m confirming with Chanelle 
 
This is a real life example –   
 

Hidden Image/Members OnlyHidden Image/Members Only
 
Aprov told me Patricia has left London

(1)   I asked a question to Aprov (2) Aprov forwarded my question to Patricia (3) Patricia replied to Aprov (4) Aprov forwarded the answer to me. 
 
If I had Chanelle’s/ Patricia's direct number I would have contacted them directly 
 

You regard these agencies as "friends"

 
Yes, like my mechanic is my friend because it benefits me when my car is in the shop. I am his friend because he wants my business. 
 

So you are saying that paying Diva £300 p/h for a WG that also advertises elsewhere for £180 is being "conned/finessed". (The £120 mark up makes 40% of the £300 cover charge.)

   
 
More than 40% it is a finesse 
 
That’s why I said this in my original post before all your deluded fantasies - 
 

If her London A/W rate is £300 an hour then paying £500 via an agency is not too bad

 

However, if you pay KL £1000 p/h for a WG that advertises elsewhere for £700 that is "fair"?

 
 
Good deal
 

You are saying KL is "fair", but Diva is "finessing" people, because there's a 10% difference in the mark up for some of their girls? Even though this very review is about a WG that you saw through KL with a mark-up of somewhere between 40-60% on her other profile (a profile that you have assured us they already knew about). It amazes me that you are still going on about how good and fair they are.

     
 
You can switch the agencies around if that makes you happy
 
I was talking about agent commissions   

I don’t mind paying an agent commission if they make my life easier (For one or two bookings)
-   Booking priority
-   No fake pictures
-   Bookings without additional screening 
-   No flakiness and time-wasting
-   In case of an emergency from the model’s side an agency should offer a replacement
-   Answer my service requests 
-   I COULD KEEP GOING LOL
 

Even though this very review is about a WG that you saw through KL with a mark-up of somewhere between 40-60% on her other profile

 
I never knew what her A/W London rates
 
That’s why I said this comment –   
 

If her London A/W rate is £300 an hour then paying £500 via an agency is not too bad

TBF, after one or two bookings with an agent if possible I book direct with the model   
 
Like this girl – External Link/Members Only
 
I don’t pay £1K or £750 for solo bookings 
 
 

You still haven't explained how or why you think booking through any agency adds value.

 
 
Agencies generally have better options overall in terms of beauty (Depending on your budget) 
 
Unless you’re only into BBWs/ Curvy or Black/ Asian women
 
I do like A/W or Kommons Brazilian offers though

[PatMacGroin]

Thanks for making more of an effort to provide direct answers my questions.

This time I'm not going to make a point of detailing all the contradictions.

It does still sound like you are splitting hairs over what is a "fair" commission compared to a "finessed" commission. Also, taken in combination, your various comments across several threads sound like you are a bit too enthusiastic about some of these agencies. That's just the way it comes across to me, some may agree, others will not.

I may try an agency again at some point. There are a few well reviewed girls on Olina's that I have been meaning to visit for some time. I think it will take a special girl for Kings Lovers and similar agencies to tempt me in.

[Liverpool]

So what are the agencies views on Putin and Elon Musk? 

[Global_Punter]

So what are the agencies views on Putin and Elon Musk? 

Well in his recent interview on FOX News Uncle Trump thinks Musk wants him back to Twitter badly as its gone downhill since he was banned - but his got his own social media platform called True, so his not coming back.

Further more according to Trump he had strong conversations with Putin - hence Ukraine was not invaded during his tenure.

I'm more interested in what Trump thinks of himself! 



 

[andrew.michael]

In this actual thread you explained how you reported her, the next day her profile was removed.  Conspiracy theory!

One of the shittiest moves I’ve seen by a punter in 20 years in the scene.  Then to see the other guys hotlisting and booking her for £500 now you’ve satisfied your ego is really grating to see on a punters forum.

it's not an ego thing, OP's account is a touting account for agencies.

[Liverpool]

it's not an ego thing, OP's account is a touting account for agencies.

It definitely is an ego thing.

I don't like the OP, but tout seems wide of the mark. He sees agency girls and reviews them  He's not the 1st to do so and sure isn't the last to do so.

[Global_Punter]

Regardless of what you think OP's has a talent for finding and reviewing lovely girls. I've hot listed a few from his past adventures!

On thing is certain, issues get dragged too far sometimes on UKP to the extent we muddle things up for ourselves - I'm pretty sure some of us still want to book the SP, maybe preferable via AW if its the cheaper option of the two.

In all any hike in rate via an agency will be because they take a percentage right ? And AW will be cheaper due to her probably handling comms & working indie - so whats the rip off here ?