Author Topic: Chanelle – Kings Lover - Finsbury Square  (Read 17030 times)


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Offline pantywetter

You sound like scutty 😂

Creating conspiracy theories that KL removed her A/W (I did play along with it)

KL don't care if she has a independent profile

In this actual thread you explained how you reported her, the next day her profile was removed.  Conspiracy theory!

One of the shittiest moves I’ve seen by a punter in 20 years in the scene.  Then to see the other guys hotlisting and booking her for £500 now you’ve satisfied your ego is really grating to see on a punters forum. 
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Offline puntingpumping1920

Hope everyone booking is enjoying paying £500+ when they could have been paying £200 via AW were in not for the OP  :lol:

You don't know shit about agencies

Should I show you in real time when an agency does care about an independent profile

They won't remove her A/W profile but they will remove her from their site 



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Offline puntingpumping1920

In this actual thread you explained how you reported her, the next day her profile was removed.  Conspiracy theory!

One of the shittiest moves I’ve seen by a punter in 20 years in the scene.  Then to see the other guys hotlisting and booking her for £500 now you’ve satisfied your ego is really grating to see on a punters forum.

I went along with it because it was funny/ stupid

How can I report something they already know  :dash:

They know she has an independent profile and her profile is active right now for punters to book

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Offline puntingpumping1920

PW you know nothing about agencies  :wackogirl:

Her profile is active - External Link/Members Only

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Offline Momodan38

You know KL don't care about that

Other agencies do care

The price should have been £400

Fair point.

They’ve had others on their with blatant indie profiles.


Offline Momodan38

PW you know nothing about agencies  :wackogirl:

Her profile is active - External Link/Members Only
you do know you’re arguing with the Walt Disney version of Bonapati right? 😂

Offline puntingpumping1920

One of the shittiest moves I’ve seen by a punter in 20 years in the scene. 

 
This guy said he has 20 years in the scene 

How did he not spot that her profile was deactivated not deleted 

If KL pressured her to remove her A/W profile because of her lower rates then why didn't these SPs A/W profiles get "deleted" too?
1)   Tommie Jo - External Link/Members Only
2)   Barbie Sins - External Link/Members Only
3)   Tasha Lustn - External Link/Members Only
4)   Emily  - External Link/Members Only
5)   Stacey Saran - External Link/Members Only
6)   Emilia - External Link/Members Only
7)   Adriely Lima - External Link/Members Only
8)   Bianca - External Link/Members Only
9)   Emily Balfour - External Link/Members Only
10)   Tais -https://www.kingslover.com/girl/taisbrazilianescort/
11)   Francine - External Link/Members Only
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Offline puntingpumping1920

you do know you’re arguing with the Walt Disney version of Bonapati right? 😂

 
Family members of clowns
 
Why would any punter want to remove the cheaper option
 
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Offline puntingpumping1920

booking her for £500 now you’ve satisfied your ego is really grating to see on a punters forum.
 

This is the real reason why his mad 
 
Anyone else think we are entering a bad period for punting?

Prices are well up
Many of us will have been hit in the pocket over Covid

Tempted to take a few months off personally
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Offline lillythesavage

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He doesn't know anything about agencies

KL pressuring her to remove her profile is crazy/ funny

Anastasia Doll has a independent profile who is probably their top earner

That is true.

Would not take much of a cynic to think you know too much and derailed the Diva thread to tout other agencies, met with resistance, starting your own thread.

You took a week to come up with an excuse for " informing " the agency of an AW profile, " they finessed you"

Really?

Mr " no price limits" , " Olina girls should charge what they want" , "30k, + a month Sugar daddy and 1k plus an hour punter felt finessed for a couple of hundred quid because he did not do his research?

Your knowledge of who is in London and where in the world they are seems like an infatuation.

Your reviews make pointed notes about the venue, the location, the decor and the size, like an estate agent, then this on the " Olina raid " thread.

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When this girl arrived in London recently she was looking for a flat in Chelsea (She's in Dubai now)

She was asking friends for recommendations

She was using Revolut card

Seemed independent to me."

Why would you have any interest or knowledge of how a SP wants to pay for a pad ?

A cynic might think your information comes from being the estate agent to these agencies.




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Offline Momodan38

That is true.

Would not take much of a cynic to think you know too much and derailed the Diva thread to tout other agencies, met with resistance, starting your own thread.

You took a week to come up with an excuse for " informing " the agency of an AW profile, " they finessed you"

Really?

Mr " no price limits" , " Olina girls should charge what they want" , "30k, + a month Sugar daddy and 1k plus an hour punter felt finessed for a couple of hundred quid because he did not do his research?

Your knowledge of who is in London and where in the world they are seems like an infatuation.

Your reviews make pointed notes about the venue, the location, the decor and the size, like an estate agent, then this on the " Olina raid " thread.

 "  External Link/Members Only

When this girl arrived in London recently she was looking for a flat in Chelsea (She's in Dubai now)

She was asking friends for recommendations

She was using Revolut card

Seemed independent to me."

Why would you have any interest or knowledge of how a SP wants to pay for a pad ?

A cynic might think your information comes from being the estate agent to these agencies.
You’re acting like Scutty… cheap foreign girls = pimped/trafficked, expensive English insta models with 700k followers = tout. Everything wraps into a neat and tidy bow to cover two seperate topics.

So you have admitted to having no clue how agencies work and revert to accusing someone of being a tout as defence?

Let’s look at what your posts are mostly about shall we? Mostly bullocks about not needing to book traditional escorts and using Craigslist of all things. Do you work for them? Or are you a pimp for the girls advertising on there? I’m kidding by they way, I doubt any of your stories are true.

You seem keenly aware of your review count and your Craigslist posts point to a need for validation for being a member here. Your so much of a shit stain that you even brought this up in the Olina raid thread, a context where girls are potentially being trafficked.

If your getting your leg over via other means and have no intention of booking an escort as they are all trafficked or pimped then why are you constantly logging in on UKP?

I guess the love talking about banging escorts, wether made up or not is too good right?

BTW the agency diva thread name change was supported by the majority of active agency users at the time such as JS, Centry, KT etc…

The other thread was made out of necessity as there are guys like you who’s panties get twisted when a certain price point is mentioned. Oddly enough by guys who don’t really punt often.

Again, if your not involved in traditional punting anymore why follow such topics? You have no interest in fake tits, yet always commenting on reviews of fake tittied hookers? Same with agency reviews, since they are all pimped why bother following and commenting on such topics?

You seem to be emboldened by Scutty Brown. Have you ever bothered to ask him if he’s certain those cheap foreign skanks he books via Vivastreet and loves to have sex with are indeed NOT pimped and trafficked? Those types of girls have the biggest red flag. Same with that last girl you booked and bring up every chance you get. Asides from being your sole proper contribution to UKP, a cynic might think you are her tout/pimp, maybe even the SP herself?

Moral of the story? Pick a lane a stick to it, don’t try and conflate two seperate things you hate as one thing. You hate punters spending habits, just out right own up to it, don’t mix the issues up.

How about I promote every punter here only see expensive English girls, the ones that can be accounted for in social media to living a non pimped out life? It’ll by far be the safest bet. Wonder how that would go down with you and Scutty? Or will I now become a tout to? Or perhaps there’s a super mega mafia type forcing these girls from behind the scenes?


Offline puntingpumping1920

A cynic might think your information comes from being the estate agent to these agencies.

 
Report me to the mods if you believe that 
 
Also, you should take a break from UKP, as seems you have lost your marbles  :wackogirl:
 
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Offline PatMacGroin

Obviously agencies will be interested in knowing which of their WG's are also advertising through different sources, be that AW, VS or other agency sites. They make their living taking a cut of the girls bookings. If the model starts taking more bookings via another source it affects their bottom line.

How different agencies deal with that competition is difficult to know. It would make sense that there are different approaches based on the relationship the Agency has with their girls. Unless you are one of the WG's or work for the Agency in some capacity any thing said on here is just theories and hearsay.

Many of us help the Agencies identify multiple advertising profiles when we post them here on UKP. We can find them on here easily enough. This is a business to them, so they will be paying as much attention, if not more.

However, @PP1920, it's clear from reading this thread you couldn't wait to inform your "friends" (your words, not mine) at KingsLover/Kingley Interntional about the WG's alternate profile:

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AW profile, £200 an hour

Then less than 40 minutes later:

I spoke to KL   

They never confirmed or denied that’s her profile

If her London A/W rate is £300 an hour then paying £500 via an agency is not too bad

That's very eager. No matter how you cut it, it's not a good look for you. The Agency would no doubt have found out themselves eventually, maybe they knew already. Making a special effort to contact them and tell them will look like grassing to most people. The speed with which you did it kind of makes you look like some sort of lapdog. Then you follow up by trying to justify the £200-300 price difference (a 40-60% cut), no wonder some people here are questioning your motives.


Offline puntingpumping1920

Making a special effort to contact them and tell them will look like grassing to most people.

 
That’s not grassing, they already knew about her profile. 
 
Most of the girls on KL work independently   
 
It's not a big deal. They don't care if she has an independent profile

Then you follow up by trying to justify the £200-300 price difference (a 40-60% cut)
 

This is where you show your ignorance regarding agencies 
 
There was nothing wrong with that justification
 
Let me give you an example -

This chick is 300 hr - External Link/Members Only 

She has a Kommons profile, if her price is less than £180/ hr on Kommons you’re getting finessed if you book via Diva
 
That was my point
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Offline PatMacGroin

That’s not grassing, they already knew about her profile. 
 
Most of the girls on KL work independently   
 
It's not a big deal. They don't care if she has an independent profile

The question isn't, "Did they already know she had a profile?"

They clearly advertise lots of WG's that have multiple profiles. I recognise several that have current AW profiles. Including some I saw, at reasonable rates, long before I'd ever heard of KL.

That AW profile was created in 2020. Plus there are reviews on here from over a year ago alluding to her semi celebrity status. So it's very likely they were already aware of the profile.

The question is why did you feel the need to run and tell them about "this issue" as soon as possible?
 
This is where you show your ignorance regarding agencies 
 
There was nothing wrong with that justification
 
Let me give you an example -

This chick is 300 hr - External Link/Members Only 

She has a Kommons profile, if her price is less than £180/ hr on Kommons you’re getting finessed   
 
That was my point

You're right, I don't use agencies. I'm not ruling them out altogether. I used to use them years ago, but since finding AW and UKP I don't see the need to pay the mark-up for blatantly photo-shopped girls.

So I admit that I genuinely don't get your point. What is the justification for paying an Agency £300 per hour when you could pay her £180 per hour. I'm "getting finessed"? What does that even mean? Sounds like it means getting conned out of £120.

The only USP that I can see for these +£500 per hour agencies is the suggestion of exclusivity. That these girls are "reassuringly expensive", so they are not being ploughed all day everyday by the hoi polloi. Maybe you can rely on them using more luxurious in-call locations (Although I'm not so sure of that based on the reviews I've read).

When the WG has an AW profile listing prices £50-£100 p/h cheaper than the Agency price I can't see what value the agency is adding. When a WG has sperate profiles advertising prices £200-300 cheaper that reveals the illusion of exclusivity for what is. Worthless.

On that basis I agree, it would probably be better for KL's reputation to remove this WG's profile from their site. Maybe they still will. I don't claim to know exactly how they operate, so I won't speculate further on that.

So, rather than try to belittle members about how we don't understand these "good" agencies. Maybe you can explain your greater insight?

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Obviously agencies will be interested in knowing which of their WG's are also advertising through different sources, be that AW, VS or other agency sites. They make their living taking a cut of the girls bookings. If the model starts taking more bookings via another source it affects their bottom line.

How different agencies deal with that competition is difficult to know. It would make sense that there are different approaches based on the relationship the Agency has with their girls. Unless you are one of the WG's or work for the Agency in some capacity any thing said on here is just theories and hearsay.

Many of us help the Agencies identify multiple advertising profiles when we post them here on UKP. We can find them on here easily enough. This is a business to them, so they will be paying as much attention, if not more.

However, @PP1920, it's clear from reading this thread you couldn't wait to inform your "friends" (your words, not mine) at KingsLover/Kingley Interntional about the WG's alternate profile:

Then less than 40 minutes later:

That's very eager. No matter how you cut it, it's not a good look for you. The Agency would no doubt have found out themselves eventually, maybe they knew already. Making a special effort to contact them and tell them will look like grassing to most people. The speed with which you did it kind of makes you look like some sort of lapdog. Then you follow up by trying to justify the £200-300 price difference (a 40-60% cut), no wonder some people here are questioning your motives.

I don't care where these women advertise, or which agency gets kicked in the tits, as long as I get a good price for a hottie..
My preferred agencies are if I find the hottie attractive Babylon with 10% off and diva membership discount..
I do feel it unfair though that the woman does all the hard graft ( and let's be honest it's not as easy as there smiles and bring friendly makes out) and that the agency gets a heavy cut.. ( before the tout bashers get a hard on it's written on threads it's around 40% mark I've been told)
That to me is unfair.. but the safety aspect comes in as they screen clients.. also well known
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That’s not grassing, they already knew about her profile. 
 
Most of the girls on KL work independently   
 
It's not a big deal. They don't care if she has an independent profile
 

This is where you show your ignorance regarding agencies 
 
There was nothing wrong with that justification
 
Let me give you an example -

This chick is 300 hr - External Link/Members Only 

She has a Kommons profile, if her price is less than £180/ hr on Kommons you’re getting finessed if you book via Diva
 
That was my point

If it's no big deal to them then why did you phone them in the first place?

Offline puntingpumping1920

The question is why did you feel the need to run and tell them about "this issue" as soon as possible?

First of all it’s not an issue. 

I've spoken to them about other girls from other agents.
 
What is the justification for paying an Agency £300 per hour when you could pay her £180 per hour. I'm "getting finessed"? What does that even mean? Sounds like it means getting conned out of £120.

 
Finessed = Conned   

This girl is available via A/W for £700/ hr - External Link/Members Only
 
The agency cut is fair.   

I would book her via KL.   

They will handle the booking professionally 

I know if I have a problem with the booking KL will try and resolve it
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Offline puntingpumping1920

If it's no big deal to them then why did you phone them in the first place?

 
 
They are okay with her having an indpendent profile. I can speak to them freely about her independent platform 
 
Conversation was via Whatsapp
 
« Last Edit: May 21, 2022, 08:24:11 pm by puntingpumping1920 »
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Offline puntingpumping1920

They are okay with her having an indpendent profile. I can speak to them freely about her independent platform 
 
Conversation was via Whatsapp

 
This is an hypothetical example -
 
Lets say me and my friends wanted to gangbang this chick - External Link/Members Only
 
She declines my request via KL, but on her A/W page she advertises this service
 
I would ask the agency why she provides that service via A/W 
 
They will tell me why
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They are okay with her having an indpendent profile. I can speak to them freely about her independent platform 
 
Conversation was via Whatsapp

So you contacted them to ask if they knew she had an AW profile where she was charging cheaper rates?

Offline puntingpumping1920

When the WG has an AW profile listing prices £50-£100 p/h cheaper than the Agency price I can't see what value the agency is adding.

 
I will keep it real
 
Some agencies do care about that. Some agencies are more stricter with the rates they choose to work with models for
 
Kings Lover don't care
 
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Offline puntingpumping1920

So you contacted them to ask if they knew she had an AW profile where she was charging cheaper rates?

 
THEY ALREADY KNEW SHE HAD AN A/W PAGE FOR LOWER RATES
 
Let me repeat
 
THEY ALREADY KNEW SHE HAD AN A/W PAGE FOR LOWER RATES
   
So why the fuck would I tell them something they already know
 
I actually asked them to confirm her A/W page, because I didn't know if it was real.
 
That can't be real 
 
I'm going to ask KL later today to confirm that profile

On the A/W page it said she was available on 19th
 
KL said she wasn't available on the 19th 

When I spoke to her she said she wouldn't be available on the 19th 
 
 

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Offline puntingpumping1920

In my original message, I said this - 
 
That can't be real 
 
I'm going to ask KL later today to confirm that profile

 
I would do the same thing if I wanted to book Anatasia Doll via [email protected]
 
If I wanted confirmation if that email is real I would ask Kings Lover for confirmation
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THEY ALREADY KNEW SHE HAD AN A/W PAGE FOR LOWER RATES
 
Let me repeat
 
THEY ALREADY KNEW SHE HAD AN A/W PAGE FOR LOWER RATES
   
So why the fuck would I tell them something they already know
 
I actually asked them to confirm her A/W page, because I didn't know if it was real.
 
On the A/W page it said she was available on 19th
 
KL said she wasn't available on the 19th 

When I spoke to her she said she wouldn't be available on the 19th 
 
 

Because you didn't know that they knew.
Because you didn't even know that she had an AW profile to begin with.
So you phoned up to snitch.

Offline puntingpumping1920

Because you didn't know that they knew.
Because you didn't even know that she had an AW profile to begin with.
So you phoned up to snitch.

 
You sound stupid
 
Lets say I snitched
 
The repercussions would have been they would have removed her from their platform if they had a strict price policy
 
What do I gain/ benefit from snitching   
 
I can still book her for £500 via a different agent
 
I can still book her for £250 via A/W
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You sound stupid
 
Lets say I snitched
 
The repercussions would have been they would have removed her from their platform if they had a strict price policy
 
What do I gain/ benefit from snitching   
 
I can still book her for £500 via a different agent
 
I can still book her for £250 via A/W

I don't know why you're a grass, I just know you are.

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You sound stupid
 

You're the one who paid double the rate you could have got her for as an indy  :crazy:  :sarcastic:

Offline puntingpumping1920

Because you didn't know that they knew.


Where is your proof of that
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That can't be real 
 
I'm going to ask KL later today to confirm that profile

Your post after i put AW link up

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THEY ALREADY KNEW SHE HAD AN A/W PAGE FOR LOWER RATES
 
Let me repeat
 
THEY ALREADY KNEW SHE HAD AN A/W PAGE FOR LOWER RATES
 
 

Offline puntingpumping1920

I don't know why you're a grass, I just know you are.

 
There is no logic
 
What's the incentive for telling 
 
It can't be because of the price, as I've paid for agency escorts available cheaper via A/W
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Everyone please, let it go. PP1920, we know you're not a pimp or estate agent for agencies  :lol:. You have justified yourself enough, there is nothing to prove, you are going to just get riled up at this rate.


The AW profile is up and running, this back and forth is not going to do anything for anyone. 

Offline puntingpumping1920

Your post after i put AW link up

 
I said that profile isn't real
 
I was going to confirm if that profile is real via KL
 
You guys are the ones that thought I was contacting them because she "moonlighting for half the price".

I went it along with his fantasy until that member started dragging it
 
In reality, I've seen multiple girls that are cheaper via A/W but I’ve paid more via an agency
 
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I said that profile isn't real
 
I was going to confirm if that profile is real via KL
 
You guys are the ones that thought I was contacting them because she "moonlighting for half the price".

I went it along with his fantasy until that member started dragging it
 
In reality, I've seen multiple girls that are cheaper via A/W but I’ve paid more via an agency

You can spin it anyway you wanna spin it now to save face but it's obvious what happened imo.

Offline puntingpumping1920

Your post after i put AW link up

 
I asked you for proof, as you said this -
 
Because you didn't know that they knew.
 
Where is your proof that shows I didn't know they knew she had an A/W page
 
This is the reason why I went along with PW's fantasy
   
Wild speculations

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Offline puntingpumping1920

You can spin it anyway you wanna spin it now to save face but it's obvious what happened imo.

 
You guys spinned it for me 
 
I even said this

If her London A/W rate is £300 an hour then paying £500 via an agency is not too bad

 
That's implying that I WOULD still pay for the agency rate
 
For some reason, you guys thought I had a problem with the agency rate  :lol:
 
So, I went along with it 
 
It's when you started dragging it I had to nip it in the bud
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I asked you for proof, as you said this -
   
Where is your proof that shows I didn't know they knew she had an A/W page
 
This is the reason why I went along with PW's fantasy
   
Wild speculations

Because you didn't know she had an AW page. D'uh!

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You guys spinned it for me 
 
I even said this
 
 
That's implying that I WOULD still pay for the agency rate
 
For some reason, you guys thought I had a problem with the agency rate  :lol:
 
So, I went along with it 
 
It's when you started dragging it I had to nip it in the bud

It's not nipped in the bud  :rolleyes:

Offline puntingpumping1920

Because you didn't know she had an AW page. D'uh!
 
 
I didn't know she had an A/W
 
That's why I asked them for confirmation
 
They would know
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I didn't know she had an A/W
 
That's why I asked them for confirmation
 
They would know

But at the time, before you contacted them, you didn't know that they'd know.

Offline puntingpumping1920

It's not nipped in the bud  :rolleyes:
 
 
If I said this before @PW fantasy post
 
If her London A/W rate is £300 an hour then paying £500 via an agency is not too bad

 
If I don't care in paying more with an agency
 
What reason did I grass then ?
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Offline puntingpumping1920

But at the time, before you contacted them, you didn't know that they'd know.

 
Lets say your right
 
They would ask her and pass me the message
 
What's your point

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If I said this before @PW fantasy post
 
 
If I don't care in paying more with an agency
 
What reason did I grass then ?

Pissed off when you found out that you'd paid twice the AW rate?
No matter how much dough you have that's annoying.

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Everyone please, let it go. PP1920, we know you're not a pimp or estate agent for agencies  :lol:. You have justified yourself enough, there is nothing to prove, you are going to just get riled up at this rate.


The AW profile is up and running, this back and forth is not going to do anything for anyone.

 
I only wanted to clear things up, as I went along with the conspiracy theory before
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Lets say your right
 
They would ask her and pass me the message
 
What's your point

My point is it was a snakey thing to do.

Offline puntingpumping1920

Pissed off when you found out that you'd paid twice the AW rate?
No matter how much dough you have that's annoying.

 
I never said I was annoyed
 
Don't put your insecurities on me
 
I never cared for her lower rates you guys did

I would still book her via Kings Lover
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I never said I was annoyed
 
Don't put your insecurities on me
 
I never cared for her lower rates you guys did

I would still book her via Kings Lover

Not my insecurities, i never paid twice the going rate, you did.
If you're happy to pay double what others do then you're a mug as well as a snitch.

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My point is it was a snakey thing to do.

 
I've said it before on different threads KL don't care about indepdent profles

Never snaked/ snitched on anyone
 
If you think I snaked/ snitched her then believe that.
 
Don't read my reviews again (I don't care)
 
You can block me (I don't care) 
 
Hopefully, I've clarified my position to others. 
 
I hope you have a good day tomorrow
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