The Politics Thread

[mills_and_bhuna]

It would be nice if the pro England posse, or whatever the fuck they are, could actually write in... English! I'd even accept, French, German or Portuguese as long as it's legible. 

The "Government"  up here would be signing their own death warrants if they banned pubs. Won't happen anytime soon and certainly not without one hell of a fight.

Never underestimate their ability to shoot themselves in the foot.
The Trans issue springs to mind

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[Followyourdick]

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I thought you were just thick but this surely suggests you have been trolling all along 🤔

[Punting2022]

I thought you were just thick but this surely suggests you have been trolling all along 🤔

Just some banter. Will happen though under lefties

[whiskyfan]

Absolute clowns, along with anyone who supports them.

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[Punting2022]

Another case of migrants raping or attempt

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[puntingking]

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You are optimistic, what makes you think that humans won't be extinct by 2070?

[mills_and_bhuna]

Thought this was interesting.
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[Punting2022]

You are optimistic, what makes you think that humans won't be extinct by 2070?

We are an adaptable species. With tech and ai, endless possibilities

[mills_and_bhuna]

We are an adaptable species. With tech and ai, endless possibilities

One of these possibilities including extinction by hubris.....

[Jerboa]

Absolute clowns, along with anyone who supports them.

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Searchlight? Fucking rats of Hope not Hate scum! So lads going over to France are absolute clowns for highlighting the migrants?

[whiskyfan]

Searchlight? Fucking rats of Hope not Hate scum! So lads going over to France are absolute clowns for highlighting the migrants?

I was being polite with clowns.

[webpunter]

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I'm not sure who is more stupid
The King for visiting [how to encourage the genie out of the bottle] or Burnham open to an apology
Next up reparations £billions
The King desperate for a distraction from his brother off on another bollox trip & it gives him something to do
Did Burnham need to comment ? 
The slaves transported by the British me thinks in a better position than those by the likes of Spain France & Holland
Its not just slavery its M&S slavery
They should think themselves lucky & the colonies have done rather well all things considered
Look what happens when colonial rule evaporates = you end up with Pakistan
& well all know what they & the Somalis can be like, i mention the latter coz top 2 country stabbings rape gangangs terrorism they are the best cards in Top Trumps on this

[WASA38]

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I'm not sure who is more stupid
The King for visiting [how to encourage the genie out of the bottle] or Burnham open to an apology
Next up reparations £billions
The King desperate for a distraction from his brother off on another bollox trip & it gives him something to do
Did Burnham need to comment ? 
The slaves transported by the British me thinks in a better position than those by the likes of Spain France & Holland
Its not just slavery its M&S slavery
They should think themselves lucky & the colonies have done rather well all things considered
Look what happens when colonial rule evaporates = you end up with Pakistan
& well all know what they & the Somalis can be like, i mention the latter coz top 2 country stabbings rape gangangs terrorism they are the best cards in Top Trumps on this

Doubt if your first highlighted point is necessarily true .

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'British colonial authorities and local planter militias responded to slave uprisings in the Caribbean with extreme military force, public executions, and systematic terror'.

However, totally agree with the second. The inhabitants of Barbados enjoy greater average per capita income than UK or USA and surely the current black population living in the Caribbean is better off there  than  in some war torn or ebola infested shithole in Africa.

The people deserving of reparations were the poor sods transported centuries ago .

[Followyourdick]

The slaves transported by the British me thinks in a better position than those by the likes of Spain France & Holland
Its not just slavery its M&S slavery
They should think themselves lucky & the colonies have done rather well all things considered

This sounds like an excuse for slavery ever happening at all to me.
You do realise slavery was one of the most horrific things humans have done to other humans or does that not bother you for some reason?

[badsin]

Slavery has been going on for the whole of human history, and still is today. Look into the slave markets of North Africa today.
It was always an abhorrent trade, and thankfully the West Africa squadron was formed to help stop this trade.

[Iamforreal]

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I'm not sure who is more stupid
The King for visiting [how to encourage the genie out of the bottle] or Burnham open to an apology
Next up reparations £billions
The King desperate for a distraction from his brother off on another bollox trip & it gives him something to do
Did Burnham need to comment ? 
The slaves transported by the British me thinks in a better position than those by the likes of Spain France & Holland
Its not just slavery its M&S slavery
They should think themselves lucky & the colonies have done rather well all things considered
Look what happens when colonial rule evaporates = you end up with Pakistan
& well all know what they & the Somalis can be like, i mention the latter coz top 2 country stabbings rape gangangs terrorism they are the best cards in Top Trumps on this

A bit disappointed with your post Webbie, however I do agree that apologising now for what happened so long ago is not going to change anything, how many times do we need to apologise?
I am sure it's not the first time.
They will never going to get reparations either.
We should all be a bit more grateful that we weren't born when these things happened and maybe in one of those countries.

[RedKettle]

Slavery has been going on for the whole of human history, and still is today. Look into the slave markets of North Africa today.
It was always an abhorrent trade, and thankfully the West Africa squadron was formed to help stop this trade.

Roman empire built on slavery which tends to get forgotten in these debates.

[DastardlyDick]

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The slaves transported by the British me thinks in a better position than those by the likes of Spain France & Holland
Its not just slavery its M&S slavery

I suggest having a look at the model slave ship Wilberforce used to eventually get slavery abolished in the UK. That was called "loose pack" at the time - "tight pack" meant the slaves were lying on their sides - in chains for weeks or months.
As for an apology, what good does it do? It would, at best, he an empty gesture.

[sparkus]

Roman empire built on slavery which tends to get forgotten in these debates.

So were the pyramids 

[timsussex]

The call for reparations is a convenient smokescreen for the action of black Africans who actually did the enslaving in the first place as they had been doing for over a thousand years. Sure the Europeans  (not just the British)  encouraged them and caused increased amounts but they also, eventually, almost stopped it
here is a fairy story or a parable if you like

Two men break into your home stealing your car, phone,  laptop, watch etc, beating you up leaving you for dead, rape your wife,  terrorize your kids etc
The police investigate and you are invited to the sentencing;
In the dock are 10 men. The two that robbed you, the fence that paid them a tenth of the value of the items, two men that then sold your phone etc in pubs (or these days on Ebay) and 5 men who bought suspiciously cheap items and never asked questions
They all plead not guilty, except  the fence (think Fagin who encouraged their crime spree over many years) who pleaded guilty and was so appalled by the assault that he helped the police catch them and the others in the dock   

You are given the chance to apportion 100 years in prison so where do you place the blame ?
Personally 40 years for each robber. 5 years for the three  selling stolen goods  and a year suspended for the last 5 in the chain

[Squire Haggard]

This seems to have been forgotten about. We should demand reparations.

''The Barbary corsairs, also known as the Barbary pirates, Ottoman corsairs,[1] or naval mujahideen (in Muslim sources),[2] were mainly Muslim corsairs and privateers who operated from the North African coast, known in Europe as the Barbary Coast.[3] In addition to seizing merchant ships, they engaged in razzias—raids on European coastal towns and villages, mainly in Italy, France, Spain, and Portugal, as well as Great Britain, Ireland,[4] and Iceland (commemorated as the Turkish Abductions).[5] These included capturing Europeans and selling them at slave markets, known as the Barbary slave trade.

While such raids began after the Muslim conquest of the Iberian Peninsula in the 710s, the terms "Barbary pirates" and "Barbary corsairs" are normally applied to the raiders active from the 16th century onwards, when the frequency and range of the slavers' attacks increased.

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[timsussex]

Those of us brought up on John Wayne war movies remember the US Marines Hymn which starts
from the Halls of Montezuma
To the shores of Tripoli ....
commemorating their combating pirates and slavers off the North African coast in the early 1800s 

[Jerboa]

This seems to have been forgotten about. We should demand reparations.

''The Barbary corsairs, also known as the Barbary pirates, Ottoman corsairs,[1] or naval mujahideen (in Muslim sources),[2] were mainly Muslim corsairs and privateers who operated from the North African coast, known in Europe as the Barbary Coast.[3] In addition to seizing merchant ships, they engaged in razzias—raids on European coastal towns and villages, mainly in Italy, France, Spain, and Portugal, as well as Great Britain, Ireland,[4] and Iceland (commemorated as the Turkish Abductions).[5] These included capturing Europeans and selling them at slave markets, known as the Barbary slave trade.

While such raids began after the Muslim conquest of the Iberian Peninsula in the 710s, the terms "Barbary pirates" and "Barbary corsairs" are normally applied to the raiders active from the 16th century onwards, when the frequency and range of the slavers' attacks increased.

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Yes, how far back do we go? Reparations from Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia? Reparations from Norway & Denmark? Reparations from Italy? Does Turkey pay reparations to Africa and the Balkans? We could go back hundreds of years.
The Caribbean politicians are bringing it up, only because they can see how weak and self hating our own politicians have become.

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[pbrown355]

So were the pyramids 

Historically incorrect

[webpunter]

Yes, how far back do we go? Reparations from Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia? Reparations from Norway & Denmark? Reparations from Italy? Does Turkey pay reparations to Africa and the Balkans? We could go back hundreds of years.
The Caribbean politicians are bringing it up, only because they can see how weak and self hating our own politicians have become.

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[webpunter]

Or even further

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[webpunter]

So were the pyramids 

 

[webpunter]

A bit disappointed with your post Webbie, however I do agree that apologising now for what happened so long ago is not going to change anything, how many times do we need to apologise?
I am sure it's not the first time.
They will never going to get reparations either.
We should all be a bit more grateful that we weren't born when these things happened and maybe in one of those countries.

Kemi & Elon have subsequently followed my lead 
As for reparations you never quite know with wokey labour, selling the chagos islands par example thankfully binned out
Fuck the bollox bout not being born when this happened in one of the countries, we are where we are
Many countries owe their success to the british expeditions colonisation, slavery in the mix considered acceptable at the time *
As if the other slavery countries will give a monkey's arse & the matter will be briefly aired before being binned anyone commenting laarfed at

So what do we expect to get from this extension of multicultural bollocks ?
At a minimum giving something even if it isn't direct reparations
Looking back there are some multicultural pointers
1 - the annual Notting Hill Crime Festival - open season to attack the police & NHS workers & a young child 'mummy what is that woman doing is it twerking ?
2 - changing the names of tube lines so most people dont have a scooby now where they go to / from [cost £6m - probably loads more]
Take a wild guess who promoted both ?
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Its the hezzbolah loving supporter Kunt Khan

* its all about perceptions what is / is not acceptable at the time or in the near future
Not now
Can you imagine the wokey backlash now for the RAF carpet & firebombing german cities 
Bomber Harris a genius & it helped turn the tide of the war at a critical moment when Britain was losing
Even then there was a bit of a backlash with the allies subsequently marching through to Berlin
Like oooh we shouldn't have really done this wasn't necessary well the higher ups in the MOD Govt weren't saying that at the time were they ?
Because of this wokey bollox at the time it took years [until around 2012 - 67 years] for Bomber Command & Servicemen to be recognised
55,000 airman died a 1 in 2 chance for those at the start of the war a near enuf dead cert not to get to 30 sorties nil when you get a pass

I digress its all perceptions & the passage of time
The slave trade finished nearly 220 years ago
67 years fair enuf [near future] as for 220 years off you fuck
Just a little bit more important or we could all be speaking German !  Kuntz

[RedKettle]

So were the pyramids 

Apparently not, which surprised me. Latest research thinks it was paid labour. Every day a school day.

[Nomerzypuntr]

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Nearly 1,000 migrants cross Channel to the UK in two days after three-week pause

[Charliehutton]

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Nearly 1,000 migrants cross Channel to the UK in two days after three-week pause

Yes, the benign weather has finally allowed the crossings to resume. I expect this was widely reported by the BBC, although I can't be sure.

Benign weather or not, those boats look jolly uncomfortable. I expect there's only a very limited range of snacks and light refreshments available, and the toilet facilities look fairly spartan. Where the ladies go to powder their noses I'm not sure. At least the facilities would appear to be gender-neutral, which is apparently seen as a good thing these days.

Shouldn't our government charter complimentary cross-channel ferries for these people? It would save them so much inconvenience, and we could make sure they all had a nice hot meal, and give them money to play the fruit machines on board, to avoid the risk of them becoming bored during the crossing.

[Nomerzypuntr]

Yes, the benign weather has finally allowed the crossings to resume. I expect this was widely reported by the BBC, although I can't be sure.

Benign weather or not, those boats look jolly uncomfortable. I expect there's only a very limited range of snacks and light refreshments available, and the toilet facilities look fairly spartan. Where the ladies go to powder their noses I'm not sure. At least the facilities would appear to be gender-neutral, which is apparently seen as a good thing these days.

Shouldn't our government charter complimentary cross-channel ferries for these people? It would save them so much inconvenience, and we could make sure they all had a nice hot meal, and give them money to play the fruit machines on board, to avoid the risk of them becoming bored during the crossing.

For those men the govt must give 100£ per day for shag SPs or make a rule that they can shag anyone incl little girls, women, old grannys for free
Tax Brit more and more
Bring more boats
Stop legal migrants (students, doctors, nurses)

Englandistan 

[scutty brown]

For those men the govt must give 100£ per day for shag SPs or make a rule that they can shag anyone incl little girls, women, old grannys for free
Tax Brit more and more
Bring more boats
Stop legal migrants (students, doctors, nurses)

Englandistan 

If you don't like England, why dont you go home? Your use of the English language suggests you don't fit here very well

[Punting2022]

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Nearly 1,000 migrants cross Channel to the UK in two days after three-week pause

All ready for a nice hot home for winter tax free. Where some army verterans or British born are on the streets in the cold. This winter we are having snow. Feel for the homegrown british who are homeless. Also some cant afford to heat home. Yet these migrants are getting tax payer funded heated hotels.

1000 more rapist on the streets

[scutty brown]

All ready for a nice hot home for winter tax free. Where some army verterans or British born are on the streets in the cold. This winter we are having snow. Feel for the homegrown british who are homeless. Also some cant afford to heat home. Yet these migrants are getting tax payer funded heated hotels.

1000 more rapist on the streets

So you're claiming that every cross-channel immigrant is a rapist?
You're a fully-fledged idiot.
Do you understand that posting shite like that is what undermines your whole argument? You may have some validity in opposing the way in which the boat migrants are currently handled, but posting crap like that just makes you look stupid