The Politics Thread

[mills_and_bhuna]

Most of us just cannot work out how you can possibly think Russia is not the aggressor

while I cannot work out why you buy the propaganda.
I thought our lot going along with Trump while he commits war crimes in Venezuela and Iran and funds Israel to do likewise in Gaza, West Bank and Lebanon.
But no.
Crickets.
And you're all still stupid enough to think Putin controls Trump rather than say, Miriam Adelson, Peter Thiel, the CIA, Citibank, Mossad, the Lobby, .
I'd better stop before I get accused of noticing .

[RedKettle]

while I cannot work out why you buy the propaganda.
I thought our lot going along with Trump while he commits war crimes in Venezuela and Iran and funds Israel to do likewise in Gaza, West Bank and Lebanon.
But no.
Crickets.
And you're all still stupid enough to think Putin controls Trump rather than say, Miriam Adelson, Peter Thiel, the CIA, Citibank, Mossad, the Lobby, .
I'd better stop before I get accused of noticing .

You can shout propaganda but Russia did actually roll the tanks into Ukraine and did actually start bombing cities etc etc.  There are plenty of other actions that Russia has actually taken, not made up by us. 

[RedKettle]

I would not fight if conscription occurs. Send all the hotel people. They earn thier keep. Infact these migrants should clean streets in exchange for living in ac hotels

To be honest I have you in the disgrace to Britain category and given how much you hate my country I wish you would fuck off to another one where you might be happier.  I would always have fought for my country, I am proud of it despite the disgrace to it that Farage and his like are.  (At my age if they asked me to fight we would be well and truly fucked!!)

[Punting2022]

To be honest I have you in the disgrace to Britain category and given how much you hate my country I wish you would fuck off to another one where you might be happier.  I would always have fought for my country, I am proud of it despite the disgrace to it that Farage and his like are.  (At my age if they asked me to fight we would be well and truly fucked!!)

Its not our country anymore thats the thing. Its been invaded by somalians and cancer. Using your anology you should fight already against somalians and cancer here.

A lot of people would not fight for britian. We are banned from putting flags up, even for football. So why should we fight for the flag.
Britian dont need to get involved in scamkraine tbh. Let russia and urkraine sort.

Tbh i am actually looking to leave here. Im due a big payout if made redundant from work. I estimate 2 years maybe. So i will take it and leave somewhere better.
Can prob upgrade the 911 to a lambo

[Private Parts]

Also pointing out on the live stream that they were on the English side of the channel now 

Ah! But how does the dumbo know if that was actually'English water' 🤔
The guy is a waste of a fuck

[DastardlyDick]

It's simple. In football you rarely need to count beyond "3" so it appeals to the less intelligent as they can usually understand the score. Rugby and cricket being higher scoring are harder for them to understand and add up so the educationally challenged are less likely to be interested.

Wasn't there an old saying that 'Rugby is a game for gentlemen, played by hooligans and rugby union is a game for hooligans played by gentlemen'? 

[Charliehutton]

Gb news had a debate on whether men should be banned working with children a few months back.
Bbc news did not debate this topic aswell.
There are too much news for the BBC to report so they have to select the news that their viewers would most be interested in.

All GB news do is try to start arguments and rage temper between communities.

Gb news is just rage baiting at its finest, its ok to watch it for entertainment purposes but not for information purposes.

I know the opinions of each news presenters on that channel as they are willing dishing out their opinion. That is not news, it is an opinion tv channel - not based on facts but based on what they think.

They discussed whether men should be banned working in nurseries. 

So no then.

The BBC didn't seem to think it a newsworthy story. Do you? Do you feel better informed, by being made aware of it?

[Charliehutton]

As always it is not a clearcut as Farage says - a quick read of the case shows that it is a complex area.  He does like his simple stir up hate threads.

I presume you mean Squire Haggard, not Farage. Either way, simply reporting the issue is not 'stirring up hate'.

[bigden40]

Most of us just cannot work out how you can possibly think Russia is not the aggressor

It is baffling.  Sure there is truth to his continual claim that Russia has been provoked, there’s a lot of evidence that they have been since at least 2014.  But that doesn’t justify invading a sovereign nation and the 4.5 years of war that have followed. 

[DastardlyDick]

Ah! But how does the dumbo know if that was actually'English water' 🤔
The guy is a waste of a fuck

Him and a bunch of other idiots including Ryan Bridges are banned from France, so he can't enter French Territorial Waters, which may be why he shouted that he was in British Waters. There is also a ban on Raise the Colours and associated groups from gathering in the Pas de Calais and Nord prefectures.

[RedKettle]

I presume you mean Squire Haggard, not Farage. Either way, simply reporting the issue is not 'stirring up hate'.

I meant Farage. Stirring hate is his thing

[RedKettle]

Its not our country anymore thats the thing. Its been invaded by somalians and cancer. Using your anology you should fight already against somalians and cancer here.

A lot of people would not fight for britian. We are banned from putting flags up, even for football. So why should we fight for the flag.
Britian dont need to get involved in scamkraine tbh. Let russia and urkraine sort.

Tbh i am actually looking to leave here. Im due a big payout if made redundant from work. I estimate 2 years maybe. So i will take it and leave somewhere better.
Can prob upgrade the 911 to a lambo

Still my country. We will be better off without you

[Charliehutton]

I meant Farage. Stirring hate is his thing

Do you think that report constitutes 'stirring hate'?

[Jerboa]

Do you think that report constitutes 'stirring hate'?

Just like many of his ilk, any facts that hurt his narrative gets the automatic 'stirring hate' 

[Punting2022]

From The Nowhere Photographer on X, who is on the ground on the French beaches. Was the child his own kid, or was it a hired prop to be used and discarded?
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It is his own. Theres a vid online of him ditching him to get on

[Punting2022]

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[mills_and_bhuna]

It is baffling.  Sure there is truth to his continual claim that Russia has been provoked, there’s a lot of evidence that they have been since at least 2014.  But that doesn’t justify invading a sovereign nation and the 4.5 years of war that have followed.

Putin is the only one who has put forward a workable peace plan.
Every single war and civil disturbance in the last thirty years can be traced back to American corporate greed, meddling and covert agitation.
Myanmar, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Indonesia, Bolivia, Venezuela, Tiananmen, Georgia, Yemen.
Nearly every single Western leader is basically a puppet .
And the ones who aren't are put under continuous overt and covert pressure until they buckle.

[mills_and_bhuna]

You can shout propaganda but Russia did actually roll the tanks into Ukraine and did actually start bombing cities etc etc.  There are plenty of other actions that Russia has actually taken, not made up by us.

Russia took military action. And our media went to work with the Bullshit.
If it had been the US with,  say Mexico in a similar situation it would have been shock and awe, overwhelming firepower, killing fishermen and claiming they were drug runners.
Imagine Putin making a speech like the fat paedo buffoon made to the UN.........thinly veiled nuclear threats, destroying a country.
It would be 24/7 hair on fire , talk about conscription.

[john122350]

Many delegates walked out as Benjamin Netanyahu arrived to address the UN General Assembly, prompting the Israeli prime minister to call those who remained "moral cowards."

As he reached the podium in New York, attendees left the hall. Netanyahu responded: "If there are any other moral cowards who haven't yet left this hall, please do so now."

The walkout came amid growing international criticism of Israel's military operations in Gaza and its actions in the occupied West Bank. Netanyahu defended his government's position in the speech, saying Israel would continue to defend itself.

[webpunter]

It is baffling.  Sure there is truth to his continual claim that Russia has been provoked, there’s a lot of evidence that they have been since at least 2014.  But that doesn’t justify invading a sovereign nation and the 4.5 years of war that have followed.

I know quite a few EE blokes go out drinking now & again
I havent seen it in the media however the Ukrainians typically treat people from surrounding countries near the border who live there [in Ukraine] badly
& its not just in the east towards the russians where there's a long standing war
The same in border areas connecting with Moldova, Romania, Hungary, Slovakia & Poland
Where people in a relationship where one is from the surrounding countries there are all sorts of obstacles put in their way:  limited health care / what little benefits there are become even less & schooling
Amplify this in the east
So the russians in the east communicate this back to the the motherland add in a war & aspirations of joining the EU [not desirable for Russia just about ok i reck] however joining Nato a mahoosive red flag [no pun intended]
& Putin having a bad day week month year at home & with all the history [various parts of Ukraine previously Russia] thinks fuck it they wanna join Nato its now or never
Ukraine's ambitions fanciful at best & if they had backed off in the east agreed a new country line & more importantly not publicly announced wanting to join Nato the war could have maybe been avoided
Prodding a bear usually dont have a positive outcome

As for the outcome its anyone's guess
Here are some betting odds
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Time for some of Trumpy's mates to make some $$$ when they get a solid steer

[Punting2022]

Many delegates walked out as Benjamin Netanyahu arrived to address the UN General Assembly, prompting the Israeli prime minister to call those who remained "moral cowards."

As he reached the podium in New York, attendees left the hall. Netanyahu responded: "If there are any other moral cowards who haven't yet left this hall, please do so now."

The walkout came amid growing international criticism of Israel's military operations in Gaza and its actions in the occupied West Bank. Netanyahu defended his government's position in the speech, saying Israel would continue to defend itself.

Bit childish from a bunch of highly paid professionals. Its not school. If you dont like a leader show a bit of an example. All tgis does is teach kids, walk out if you hate someone.

No doubt it was cancer supporters

[webpunter]

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They're at it again they're at it again the Syrian paedos are at it again
They do it in their own country no probs whatsoever so assume its the same here perfectly ok crack on
Hope they read the leaflets yeah right
The Govt should be sending the same as on the leaflets to all the free SIMs they've dished out [& to those provided by Vodafone]

& here is one very worrying aspect
'bail extended by Judge Tom Rochford and was told that his trial, which will take place across five days, will begin on 1 August, 2028'
Only two years away you can't make it up 
Until then he's free to roam just like his free SIM
Thats assuming that the rozzers can find him when his case is nearing 

Obviously he cant be put on remand as there is a woeful lack of prison space
Eaten up by british crims, mislamic terrorists + paedos apprehended, crims from the EE & an increasing number of new illegals
It doesn't take long for the latter to get started
Once they find their feet on dry land
Getting their knobs out to young white girls seems to be a particular favourite early doors

[Massagemanmr]

Many delegates walked out as Benjamin Netanyahu arrived to address the UN General Assembly, prompting the Israeli prime minister to call those who remained "moral cowards."

As he reached the podium in New York, attendees left the hall. Netanyahu responded: "If there are any other moral cowards who haven't yet left this hall, please do so now."

The walkout came amid growing international criticism of Israel's military operations in Gaza and its actions in the occupied West Bank. Netanyahu defended his government's position in the speech, saying Israel would continue to defend itself.

as the entire planet walked out DESPERATE Israeli claims of

- anti semetisim
- Jew hate
- denying the holocaust

 

[mills_and_bhuna]

Bit childish from a bunch of highly paid professionals. Its not school. If you dont like a leader show a bit of an example. All tgis does is teach kids, walk out if you hate someone.

No doubt it was cancer supporters

Trust you to support a war criminal and paint others as the bad actors.
But right on brand.

[Punting2022]

Well Well.
If they outnumber the Army, thats a whole lot of terrorist to take the army out. Maybe in war these lot should be conscripted and earn their keep

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[Massagemanmr]

Trust you to support a war criminal and paint others as the bad actors.
But right on brand.

just look at this user previous posts , he is not in a good place mentally!

[TallnHung]

Bit childish from a bunch of highly paid professionals. Its not school. If you dont like a leader show a bit of an example. All tgis does is teach kids, walk out if you hate someone.

No doubt it was cancer supporters

You need help.
Either mentally or for you radicalisation. 
Wouldn't surprise me if there was a radicalised ultra right wing incident in the near future and your profile went quiet at the same time.
Or that you're one of the main players already and we don't know.  After all you could be one of the Toomo/Tommy/whatever the fuck they call themselves today actual people!

[Punting2022]

just look at this user previous posts , he is not in a good place mentally!

I am perfect in my mental health thanks. Life is good and amazing.  Your quite judgemental. Seems that just because someone says something that is not agreed on. Then users jump on the mental health bandwagon.
In fact comments like this and attitudes like this are what can cause a user or person mental health issues. The constant judgemental attitudes.
Yes when i first joined i commented something, but its 4 years, I'm over it, but seems you are not to bring things up time and time again.
Other comments, don't mean i have mental health issues, its just because it don't fit yours and others ideology, you play the mental health card.
I support Israel yes, just because you don't, you say mental health to people who do.

Hamas started the war and cancer is a contant threat to peace in the middle east

[Natwest]

Tbh i am actually looking to leave here. Im due a big payout if made redundant from work. I estimate 2 years maybe. So i will take it and leave somewhere better.
Can prob upgrade the 911 to a lambo

You really are a fucking wanker. Do you really think anyone is impressed or cares about the car you drive?

[Massagemanmr]

You really are a fucking wanker. Do you really think anyone is impressed or cares about the car you drive?

mate you only need to look at his posts to see the condition he is in, this won't be the first or last......

[Punting2022]

You really are a fucking wanker. Do you really think anyone is impressed or cares about the car you drive?

Another out of context post from the Banking group. You picked one line of a comment from a discussion.

[Punting2022]

mate you only need to look at his posts to see the condition he is in, this won't be the first or last......

Its a discussion about politics, Just because you dont agree with something, your like someone has mental health issues. Like mentioned above too judgemental when someone says something not agreed on.

I could say from a punting perspective, you have mental health issues tbh to punt when with someone. We know the reason people do it. But like your opinion on this topic. You don't agree with some political and gone on the mental health bandwagon.  I dont agree on your punting views, so therefore you have issues. Similar

[Punting2022]

You need help.
Either mentally or for you radicalisation. 
Wouldn't surprise me if there was a radicalised ultra right wing incident in the near future and your profile went quiet at the same time.
Or that you're one of the main players already and we don't know.  After all you could be one of the Toomo/Tommy/whatever the fuck they call themselves today actual people!

Assumptions, Just because someone aggrees with one view, Doesnt mean they are going to action or do something. 

[timsussex]

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The guy who posted videos of himself slashing an inflatable in the channel has been in court
Apparently it could have been dealt with by Basingstoke magistrates but he elected to go to Crown court
what concerns me he was remanded - no bail

why ?  he clearly wants his day in court he isnt a flight risk there are no vulnerable witnesses to threaten 

[Punting2022]

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The guy who posted videos of himself slashing an inflatable in the channel has been in court
Apparently it could have been dealt with by Basingstoke magistrates but he elected to go to Crown court
what concerns me he was remanded - no bail

why ?  he clearly wants his day in court he isnt a flight risk there are no vulnerable witnesses to threaten

Two Tier Britain.
If this was a BLM or Free Palestine. He/She would be granted bail.

[TallnHung]

You really are a fucking wanker. Do you really think anyone is impressed or cares about the car you drive?

He's a fantasist.
Look back at all his comments.  Clearly has issues to the point that he has to make out he drives a 911 to look big.
Who cares if he does, anyone who knows real people with money know they dont need to flaunt it, let alone on a punting site.
I also think he is a Walt given his comments some time ago.  Seems whatever you have done he's done it twice.  We used to call these 2 shits, if you've had one he'll tell you he's had two. 

[TallnHung]

Its a discussion about politics, Just because you dont agree with something, your like someone has mental health issues. Like mentioned above too judgemental when someone says something not agreed on.

I could say from a punting perspective, you have mental health issues tbh to punt when with someone. We know the reason people do it. But like your opinion on this topic. You don't agree with some political and gone on the mental health bandwagon.  I dont agree on your punting views, so therefore you have issues. Similar

It's not the disagreement that makes me think you have issues.
Its the fact you dont have the ability to see it from any side other than your own. 
Can't accept others have different views unless you need to justify your own and when challenged get defensive and punchy. 

NPCC has a definition of radicalised and its below, you show all of the traits.

Common Signs:
Expressing persistent intolerance and hartred towards specific groups based on religion, race, gender or sexuality
Justifying or talking positively about violence, dangerous groups, or terrorist acts.
Rejecting different viewpoints and inability to view a subject from the other sides perspective.

You show signs of all of these multiple times in multiple posts, just read back and you'll see it, well anyone else will but you wont obviously.   
I doubt we are helping to be fair, giving you the view that people are against you and your fundamental beliefs is one of the measures that makes it worse rather than better. 
I'm starting to go from thinking you're just a striring piece of shit Tommy/Tommo/Whatever wanker name you want to choose today to feeling sorry for you.

[TallnHung]

Two Tier Britain.
If this was a BLM or Free Palestine. He/She would be granted bail.

Again fantasist. 
There are people doing time for Free Palestine.
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They should be in jail for what they did as does your piece of shit mate Tommo.
See, some people can understand that 2 things can be true at once, if they are'nt already radicalised and too far down the Tommo/Tommy piece of shit rabbit hole.

[Shagswell2001]

Tbh i am actually looking to leave here. Im due a big payout if made redundant from work. I estimate 2 years maybe. So i will take it and leave somewhere better.
Can prob upgrade the 911 to a lambo
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Side hustle must have went well then 
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=385399.msg3926556#msg3926556

[TallnHung]

Tbh i am actually looking to leave here. Im due a big payout if made redundant from work. I estimate 2 years maybe. So i will take it and leave somewhere better.
Can prob upgrade the 911 to a lambo


Side hustle must have went well then 
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=385399.msg3926556#msg3926556

Must have re-tried the Bitcoin empire without getting scammed this time 

[Jerboa]

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The guy who posted videos of himself slashing an inflatable in the channel has been in court
Apparently it could have been dealt with by Basingstoke magistrates but he elected to go to Crown court
what concerns me he was remanded - no bail

why ?  he clearly wants his day in court he isnt a flight risk there are no vulnerable witnesses to threaten

Another clear example of the authoritarian state, they wanted Danny for anything they could pin on him, as Shabana wrongly alleged he was far right and outright racist. If he crossed on a pelican crossing on a red man, they would have nicked him. In English common law there needs to be a victim, who is that, the criminal traffiking gang who owns the rubber boat? This charade proves the CPS is not a neutral justice body, but a politicised tool of the authoritarian state.
I guess Danny has elected to go to Crown court, so he will get a jury if this ridiculous case goes to trial.

Ibrahim got a suspended sentence for throwing a brick at a August 2024 riot, but Del from Southampton gets 2 yrs for throwing a water bottle.
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[Punting2022]

Another clear example of the authoritarian state, they wanted Danny for anything they could pin on him, as Shabana wrongly alleged he was far right and outright racist. If he crossed on a pelican crossing on a red man, they would have nicked him. In English common law there needs to be a victim, who is that, the criminal traffiking gang who owns the rubber boat? This charade proves the CPS is not a neutral justice body, but a politicised tool of the authoritarian state.
I guess Danny has elected to go to Crown court, so he will get a jury if this ridiculous case goes to trial.

Ibrahim got a suspended sentence for throwing a brick at a August 2024 riot, but Del from Southampton gets 2 yrs for throwing a water bottle.
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The Islamic Rebublic of United Kingdom.
Just watch mate in a few years, All these people and lefties here be moaning when they under Shariya law.
They will remember this political chat and wish they done more and supported reform, tommy etc.

You can already tell walking through Birmingham, Nottingham etc the change of landscape.

[RedKettle]

You can already tell walking through Birmingham, Nottingham etc the change of landscape.

Lying about Nottingham again - the fact that you get that so badly wrong just supports the thought that everything you say is made up.

[RedKettle]

You really are a fucking wanker. Do you really think anyone is impressed or cares about the car you drive?

I think the fact he thinks that is impressive says a lot.  I also thought it kind off odd that someone who is constantly bleating about the take over of our streets then claims to drive such cars, typically people with those cars do not live in or go to areas where illegal migrants live, well perhaps other than drug dealers. 

Also he talks about Nottingham, a city I know really well (over decades) and based on his comments he has never been here.

All in all I am now totally convinced he is a liar or a troll.

[Punting2022]

I think the fact he thinks that is impressive says a lot.  I also thought it kind off odd that someone who is constantly bleating about the take over of our streets then claims to drive such cars, typically people with those cars do not live in or go to areas where illegal migrants live, well perhaps other than drug dealers. 

Also he talks about Nottingham, a city I know really well (over decades) and based on his comments he has never been here.

All in all I am now totally convinced he is a liar or a troll.

I have been Nottingham. Went in august to see Olivia Rae. She was in a hotel beginning with L . Walking around it was taken over.
Rubbish on the streets, you could see the landscape changed. Any way its a discussion about politics. This is my political views on the topics discussed.
Just when your under shariya law enjoy it.

[Frostingthebowl]

The Islamic Rebublic of United Kingdom.
Just watch mate in a few years, All these people and lefties here be moaning when they under Shariya law.
They will remember this political chat and wish they done more and supported reform, tommy etc.

You can already tell walking through Birmingham, Nottingham etc the change of landscape.

Another mention for nottingham...but the other guy will call you a liar 🤫

[Natwest]

So you have been to Nottingham once but can see the landscape has changed. I lived there for 5 years and since leaving have gone back at least twice a year. It's a vibrant city with great culture, great restaurants and great pubs. You continue to spout complete bollocks. You are possibly the biggest fucking troll on here and like many contributors I am sure, I wait for that next and final slip up that sees you permanently banned. You are possibly the most objectionable asshole on this site.

[scutty brown]

Tbh i am actually looking to leave here. Im due a big payout if made redundant from work. I estimate 2 years maybe. So i will take it and leave somewhere better.
Can prob upgrade the 911 to a lambo

Well hurry up fuck off and go. You're getting boring

[Punting2022]

So you have been to Nottingham once but can see the landscape has changed. I lived there for 5 years and since leaving have gone back at least twice a year. It's a vibrant city with great culture, great restaurants and great pubs. You continue to spout complete bollocks. You are possibly the biggest fucking troll on here and like many contributors I am sure, I wait for that next and final slip up that sees you permanently banned. You are possibly the most objectionable asshole on this site.

Calling for other peoples bans is against the rules last time i checked. Just because you dont agree with things, you call for a ban. Its not trolling. Its a discussion and opinion. I travel around and noted this on nottingham like another user has also. Its our opinion.  You have yours.