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Offline whiskyfan

Very fair. As for reasons, I think it's simply because the right has a fair amount of liberalism in it that says "agree to disagree, each to their own" and the left is authoritarian in its very nature ergo its proponents want control. If they sense people may disagree with them their intolerance for that shines through.

Sounds a lot like Trump.

Offline Jerboa

Yes, they've now changed the rules so that students can't bring their dependents.

Gas chambers?

What do you mean gas chambers?  :unknown:

Offline Jerboa

Ukraine is losing the war

From the Spectator Owen Matthews is finally smelling the coffee, is he the only one?

Vladimir Putin has not changed his war aims a jot since 2022 and remains determined on fighting on. Donald Trump has no new plan for peace other than bringing the Ukraine war to an end on Putin’s terms. And Kyiv is running out of money and men to defend itself, just as surely as it has already run out of Patriot interceptors to defend its skies against the Kremlin’s barrages.

Those are the three depressing takeaways from the latest round of shuttle diplomacy in Moscow and Kyiv by Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner and special envoy Steve Witkoff.


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What do you mean gas chambers?  :unknown:
Well you know... you want to get rid of a few million.

Offline Jerboa

Well you know... you want to get rid of a few million.

Mass deportations.  :hi:

Offline Punting2022

The islamic republic of the united kingdom against isreal now. Shame. They will regret

Offline Punting2022

So uk cant even keep thier atc in control. How they gonna defend against russia. As lso 100m in defence sent to scamkraine

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So uk cant even keep thier atc in control. How they gonna defend against russia. As lso 100m in defence sent to scamkraine
Their what?

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The islamic republic of the united kingdom against isreal now. Shame. They will regret
No they aren't.
The government is still occupied by Zionists.
It's all theatre.


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I am beginning to warm to the Burnham government.

Its strong and principled response to the illegal Jewish settlements on the West Bank is much to be admired – as was Ed Miliband's speech yesterday in the House of Commons in which he reminded us of his own Jewishness and his support for the existence of the state of Israel, while deprecating its disgraceful behaviour on the West Bank.

Meanwhile my own disgust at the Israelis knows no bounds, not least because any criticism of behaviour by the State of Israel is disingenuously and shamelessly painted as antisemitism.

Do they not realise that it is Israel's behaviour in Gaza, the West Bank and elsewhere that is making life uncomfortable for people with a Jewish background all across the world?

Meanwhile, people of Jewish heritage who speak out against Israeli's quasi-genocidal behaviour are, in a small way, heroic.

It is one of the great ironies of history, is it not?  Under Adolf Hitler, the Jewish people were subjected to one of the worst atrocities – possibly the worst atrocity – in world history.  And now the Israeli army is itself behaving in ways that would make a Nazi storm-trooper proud.

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Offline spiralnotebook

I always said it astonished me how Israel’s actions have mirrored their own experiences under Hitler and more so Stalin.

Offline juzz

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Meanwhile my own disgust at the Israelis knows no bounds, not least because any criticism of behaviour by the State of Israel is disingenuously and shamelessly painted as antisemitism.
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Agreed. The behaviours are absolutely disgraceful. But the continual washing of any criticism as antisemitism really grates with me. Quite a considered move by Labour to have Milliband as a Jew call it out.

I don't think Israel would be anywhere near as bold without US support (back channels of funding Trump etc. yada yada). The current US administration seems to embolden the psychos around the world... look at Javier Milei in Argentina.


Offline Followyourdick

I am beginning to warm to the Burnham government.

Its strong and principled response to the illegal Jewish settlements on the West Bank is much to be admired – as was Ed Miliband's speech yesterday in the House of Commons in which he reminded us of his own Jewishness and his support for the existence of the state of Israel, while deprecating its disgraceful behaviour on the West Bank.

Meanwhile my own disgust at the Israelis knows no bounds, not least because any criticism of behaviour by the State of Israel is disingenuously and shamelessly painted as antisemitism.

Do they not realise that it is Israel's behaviour in Gaza, the West Bank and elsewhere that is making life uncomfortable for people with a Jewish background all across the world?

Meanwhile, people of Jewish heritage who speak out against Israeli's quasi-genocidal behaviour are, in a small way, heroic.

It is one of the great ironies of history, is it not?  Under Adolf Hitler, the Jewish people were subjected to one of the worst atrocities – possibly the worst atrocity – in world history.  And now the Israeli army is itself behaving in ways that would make a Nazi storm-trooper proud.
Absolutely agree re the state of Israel. What they are and have been doing for some time can be described as apartheid.
Also whilst I’m not a fan of Corbin wasn’t he labelled an antisemite for doing exactly what you say here in calling out the state of Israel and their behaviour.

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I am beginning to warm to the Burnham government.

Its strong and principled response to the illegal Jewish settlements on the West Bank is much to be admired – as was Ed Miliband's speech yesterday in the House of Commons in which he reminded us of his own Jewishness and his support for the existence of the state of Israel, while deprecating its disgraceful behaviour on the West Bank.

Meanwhile my own disgust at the Israelis knows no bounds, not least because any criticism of behaviour by the State of Israel is disingenuously and shamelessly painted as antisemitism.

Do they not realise that it is Israel's behaviour in Gaza, the West Bank and elsewhere that is making life uncomfortable for people with a Jewish background all across the world?

Meanwhile, people of Jewish heritage who speak out against Israeli's quasi-genocidal behaviour are, in a small way, heroic.

It is one of the great ironies of history, is it not?  Under Adolf Hitler, the Jewish people were subjected to one of the worst atrocities – possibly the worst atrocity – in world history.  And now the Israeli army is itself behaving in ways that would make a Nazi storm-trooper proud.

PMQ's Today are going to be fun.
I've got the popcorn 🍿 ready
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Offline Private Parts

Especially since Mr Milliband  has questioned the chief Rabbi's take on matters Israel,
And nobody can fly their money out of this country!!
Heh Heh!

Offline Blackpool Rock

Absolutely agree re the state of Israel. What they are and have been doing for some time can be described as apartheid.
Also whilst I’m not a fan of Corbin wasn’t he labelled an antisemite for doing exactly what you say here in calling out the state of Israel and their behaviour.
I thought the main issue with Corbyn was that there were quite a few vocal antisemites in his party and he basically did fuck all to stamp it out so it was allowed to fester and grow
There was an enquiry and changes but it was all too little too late

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I thought the main issue with Corbyn was that there were quite a few vocal antisemites in his party and he basically did fuck all to stamp it out so it was allowed to fester and grow
There was an enquiry and changes but it was all too little too late
You thought wrong.
You should watch 'The Labour Files' .
There were vocal anti-Zionists in his party and the Israel lobby went on a witch hunt.
There was an inquiry .
They found there was more racism against black or muslim members than against Jewish members but that was inconvenient for the 'Labour Together' plotters so they tried to bury it.
And the mainstream media were co-conspirators.

Online Charliehutton

I am beginning to warm to the Burnham government.

Its strong and principled response to the illegal Jewish settlements on the West Bank is much to be admired – as was Ed Miliband's speech yesterday in the House of Commons.

By happy coincidence it may well also dissuade many of their core Muslim voters from defecting to the Greens in the forthcoming Holborn & St Pancras by-election.

Offline bigden40

I am beginning to warm to the Burnham government.

Its strong and principled response to the illegal Jewish settlements on the West Bank is much to be admired – as was Ed Miliband's speech yesterday in the House of Commons in which he reminded us of his own Jewishness and his support for the existence of the state of Israel, while deprecating its disgraceful behaviour on the West Bank.

Meanwhile my own disgust at the Israelis knows no bounds, not least because any criticism of behaviour by the State of Israel is disingenuously and shamelessly painted as antisemitism.

Do they not realise that it is Israel's behaviour in Gaza, the West Bank and elsewhere that is making life uncomfortable for people with a Jewish background all across the world?

Meanwhile, people of Jewish heritage who speak out against Israeli's quasi-genocidal behaviour are, in a small way, heroic.

It is one of the great ironies of history, is it not?  Under Adolf Hitler, the Jewish people were subjected to one of the worst atrocities – possibly the worst atrocity – in world history.  And now the Israeli army is itself behaving in ways that would make a Nazi storm-trooper proud.

I find your post quite disappointing, trafficking several classic distortions: collective guilt for Jews worldwide, Holocaust inversion, selective outrage, and the claim that Israel’s critics are silenced by bad-faith accusations of antisemitism rather than by the content of their own arguments.

A few thoughts.

1. The illegality of settlements

Most of the international community treats Israeli settlements in the West Bank as illegal under the Fourth Geneva Convention. Israel (and a minority of legal scholars) disputes that reading, pointing to the territory’s disputed status after 1967, the absence of a prior legitimate sovereign, security needs, and the fact that final borders were supposed to be negotiated under Oslo.

The discussions on settlements ignore that they have built on less than 2% of the West Bank, ignore the historic significance of the biblical heartland of Judea and Samaria, ignores the circumstances of how they came to occupy it in 1967, and that they’ve tried to give it away multiple times since.

One can argue the settlements are unwise or counterproductive without accepting the maximalist claim that every Jewish presence beyond the 1949 armistice lines is a war crime.

The ethnic framing language in your post “illegal Jewish settlements.” is not neutral; it treats Jews as uniquely illegitimate on land they have continuous historical connection to, while ignoring far larger population movements and occupations elsewhere that attract no equivalent moral frenzy.

2. Double standards on “disgraceful behaviour”

If the metric is civilian death, occupation, or illiberal governance, the selective intensity directed at Israel can be quite jarring.

Syria’s civil war killed hundreds of thousands with chemical weapons and barrel bombs. Iran hangs protesters, funds proxies that deliberately target civilians, and until recently was building a nuclear threshold capability while facing only episodic sanctions. China’s treatment of Uyghurs involves mass detention, forced labour and cultural erasure on an industrial scale. Russia’s war in Ukraine has produced massive civilian casualties and deportations of children. Saudi Arabia’s campaign in Yemen caused a catastrophic famine. None of these regimes face the permanent, institutionalised scrutiny Israel receives at the UN Human Rights Council, nor the same volume of academic boycotts, campus disruptions, or “from the river to the sea” rhetoric.

A consistent humanitarian would demand equivalent pressure on all of them. You, and many others, do not. That is not principle; it is selectivity.

3. Gaza, “quasi-genocide,” and Nazi analogies

The Nazi comparison is more than hyperbolic; it is historically illiterate and morally inverted. The Holocaust was the industrialised, ideological attempt to murder an entire people defined by ancestry, with no military objective other than their extinction. Israel’s war in Gaza was triggered by Hamas’s 7 October 2023 massacre - deliberate slaughter, rape, and hostage-taking of civilians -followed by Hamas’s explicit strategy of embedding among civilians, diverting aid, and maximising Palestinian deaths for propaganda.

Urban warfare against an enemy that uses human shields produces high civilian casualties. That is certainly tragic and also demands scrutiny of proportionality and targeting. It is not equivalent to gas chambers or Einsatzgruppen. Independent analyses of the fighting consistently show Israel warning civilians, using precision munitions at rates higher than most Western armies in similar environments, and facing an opponent whose founding charter and public statements still call for Jewish elimination.

Calling this “quasi-genocidal” or “Nazi storm-trooper” behaviour empties the words of meaning and is a form of Holocaust relativisation that many would rightly regard as antisemitic.

4. “Criticism of Israel = antisemitism”

Legitimate criticism of any government’s policies is not antisemitism.

Conflating all Jews with the Israeli government, treating Jewish self-determination as uniquely illegitimate, applying standards applied to no other country, or celebrating violence against Israeli civilians is. Your post does at least the first and third. It also implies that the discomfort felt by diaspora Jews is primarily Israel’s fault rather than the fault of those who harass Jews in Western cities, vandalise synagogues, or chant eliminationist slogans while claiming to be “anti-Zionist only.”

Jews who publicly dissent from Israeli policy are not uniquely heroic; they exercise the same free speech every citizen has. Treating them as especially brave while pathologising mainstream Jewish attachment to Israel’s survival is a familiar rhetorical move that puts the onus of collective Jewish behaviour on a tiny minority.

5. Ed Miliband and political theatre

A British politician of Jewish background supporting Israel’s existence while criticising settlements is unremarkable and can be argued on its merits, but Ed Miliband's politicking of the last few days was neither principled nor strong. It was second rate student politics, playing to segments of the electorate, by repeating accusations without evidence.

Suggesting that the Israeli state itself is the primary source of global antisemitism is a non-sequitur. Antisemitism long predates 1948 and has surged in periods of anti-Israel mobilisation that include open Jew-hatred.

A serious response does not require denying Palestinian suffering, the human cost of the current war, or the political difficulties of the settlements. It does require refusing the unique demonisation, the inverted history, and the refusal to apply the same standards to far worse actors.
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Offline bigden40

Absolutely agree re the state of Israel. What they are and have been doing for some time can be described as apartheid.
Also whilst I’m not a fan of Corbin wasn’t he labelled an antisemite for doing exactly what you say here in calling out the state of Israel and their behaviour.

It could be described as apartheid only if you had zero knowledge of what apartheid actually was. 

And no, Corbyn was not labelled an anti-Semite for “calling out the state of Israel”.  He led a Labour Party which was independently found to be responsible for unlawful acts of harassment and discrimination against Jews, with serious failures in how complaints were handled. Where there was a pattern of tolerance for antisemitic tropes, conspiracy theories, and individuals who trafficked in them; associations and platforming that crossed into classical antisemitism rather than policy critique; reluctance to adopt the IHRA definition in full and in a timely way; and a political culture in which many British Jews reported feeling unwelcome or unsafe.

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I find your post quite disappointing, trafficking several classic distortions: collective guilt for Jews worldwide, Holocaust inversion, selective outrage, and the claim that Israel’s critics are silenced by bad-faith accusations of antisemitism rather than by the content of their own arguments.

A few thoughts.

1. The illegality of settlements

Most of the international community treats Israeli settlements in the West Bank as illegal under the Fourth Geneva Convention. Israel (and a minority of legal scholars) disputes that reading, pointing to the territory’s disputed status after 1967, the absence of a prior legitimate sovereign, security needs, and the fact that final borders were supposed to be negotiated under Oslo.

The discussions on settlements ignore that they have built on less than 2% of the West Bank, ignore the historic significance of the biblical heartland of Judea and Samaria, ignores the circumstances of how they came to occupy it in 1967, and that they’ve tried to give it away multiple times since.

One can argue the settlements are unwise or counterproductive without accepting the maximalist claim that every Jewish presence beyond the 1949 armistice lines is a war crime.

The ethnic framing language in your post “illegal Jewish settlements.” is not neutral; it treats Jews as uniquely illegitimate on land they have continuous historical connection to, while ignoring far larger population movements and occupations elsewhere that attract no equivalent moral frenzy.

2. Double standards on “disgraceful behaviour”

If the metric is civilian death, occupation, or illiberal governance, the selective intensity directed at Israel can be quite jarring.

Syria’s civil war killed hundreds of thousands with chemical weapons and barrel bombs. Iran hangs protesters, funds proxies that deliberately target civilians, and until recently was building a nuclear threshold capability while facing only episodic sanctions. China’s treatment of Uyghurs involves mass detention, forced labour and cultural erasure on an industrial scale. Russia’s war in Ukraine has produced massive civilian casualties and deportations of children. Saudi Arabia’s campaign in Yemen caused a catastrophic famine. None of these regimes face the permanent, institutionalised scrutiny Israel receives at the UN Human Rights Council, nor the same volume of academic boycotts, campus disruptions, or “from the river to the sea” rhetoric.

A consistent humanitarian would demand equivalent pressure on all of them. You, and many others, do not. That is not principle; it is selectivity.

3. Gaza, “quasi-genocide,” and Nazi analogies

The Nazi comparison is more than hyperbolic; it is historically illiterate and morally inverted. The Holocaust was the industrialised, ideological attempt to murder an entire people defined by ancestry, with no military objective other than their extinction. Israel’s war in Gaza was triggered by Hamas’s 7 October 2023 massacre - deliberate slaughter, rape, and hostage-taking of civilians -followed by Hamas’s explicit strategy of embedding among civilians, diverting aid, and maximising Palestinian deaths for propaganda.

Urban warfare against an enemy that uses human shields produces high civilian casualties. That is certainly tragic and also demands scrutiny of proportionality and targeting. It is not equivalent to gas chambers or Einsatzgruppen. Independent analyses of the fighting consistently show Israel warning civilians, using precision munitions at rates higher than most Western armies in similar environments, and facing an opponent whose founding charter and public statements still call for Jewish elimination.

Calling this “quasi-genocidal” or “Nazi storm-trooper” behaviour empties the words of meaning and is a form of Holocaust relativisation that many would rightly regard as antisemitic.

4. “Criticism of Israel = antisemitism”

Legitimate criticism of any government’s policies is not antisemitism.

Conflating all Jews with the Israeli government, treating Jewish self-determination as uniquely illegitimate, applying standards applied to no other country, or celebrating violence against Israeli civilians is. Your post does at least the first and third. It also implies that the discomfort felt by diaspora Jews is primarily Israel’s fault rather than the fault of those who harass Jews in Western cities, vandalise synagogues, or chant eliminationist slogans while claiming to be “anti-Zionist only.”

Jews who publicly dissent from Israeli policy are not uniquely heroic; they exercise the same free speech every citizen has. Treating them as especially brave while pathologising mainstream Jewish attachment to Israel’s survival is a familiar rhetorical move that puts the onus of collective Jewish behaviour on a tiny minority.

5. Ed Miliband and political theatre

A British politician of Jewish background supporting Israel’s existence while criticising settlements is unremarkable and can be argued on its merits, but Ed Miliband's politicking of the last few days was neither principled nor strong. It was second rate student politics, playing to segments of the electorate, by repeating accusations without evidence.

Suggesting that the Israeli state itself is the primary source of global antisemitism is a non-sequitur. Antisemitism long predates 1948 and has surged in periods of anti-Israel mobilisation that include open Jew-hatred.

A serious response does not require denying Palestinian suffering, the human cost of the current war, or the political difficulties of the settlements. It does require refusing the unique demonisation, the inverted history, and the refusal to apply the same standards to far worse actors.

Thank you for a very impressive and well reasoned response :hi:

Offline Adoniron

It's a bit mealy mouthed to describe Milliband as "a British politician of Jewish background". He is a Jew. Why try to make him seem less Jewish than he is?

Offline Blackpool Rock

It's a bit mealy mouthed to describe Milliband as "a British politician of Jewish background". He is a Jew. Why try to make him seem less Jewish than he is?
Well i'm slightly confused as to exactly how Jewish he actually is, remember this  :unknown:



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Thank you for a very impressive and well reasoned response :hi:
You should be thanking Chat GPT

Offline Followyourdick

It could be described as apartheid only if you had zero knowledge of what apartheid actually was. 

And no, Corbyn was not labelled an anti-Semite for “calling out the state of Israel”.  He led a Labour Party which was independently found to be responsible for unlawful acts of harassment and discrimination against Jews, with serious failures in how complaints were handled. Where there was a pattern of tolerance for antisemitic tropes, conspiracy theories, and individuals who trafficked in them; associations and platforming that crossed into classical antisemitism rather than policy critique; reluctance to adopt the IHRA definition in full and in a timely way; and a political culture in which many British Jews reported feeling unwelcome or unsafe.
Oh go on then explain apartheid to me, you obviously know better than I so educate me.
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Offline bigden40

It's a bit mealy mouthed to describe Milliband as "a British politician of Jewish background". He is a Jew. Why try to make him seem less Jewish than he is?

Not really. He’s an atheist from a Jewish family, seems accurate to me

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Offline Punting2022

Milliband may be jew. But he is in the party of islam. So has to do what pleases them

Offline Adoniron

Not really. He’s an atheist from a Jewish family, seems accurate to me

So you're not a Jew unless you are religious and go to synagogue?

Offline Blackpool Rock

We appear to be drifting slightly over the No Religion rule, perhaps worth reigning it in before the Mods start getting involved  :unknown:

Offline Blackpool Rock

The thick as shit knuckle dragging Portsmouth protesters have now been targeting the RNLI lifeboat crew volunteers who were there to light up the beach because many of the protesters had gone into the sea

Pictures of crew members shared online along with names some of which were wrong, accusations of them being traitors and suggestions that their families should be tracked down  :dash:

Ah yes these proud patriots hiding behind a mask or face covering can then go home and hide behind a keyboard, 1930's Germany would approve  :thumbsdown:

Offline Punting2022

The thick as shit knuckle dragging Portsmouth protesters have now been targeting the RNLI lifeboat crew volunteers who were there to light up the beach because many of the protesters had gone into the sea

Pictures of crew members shared online along with names some of which were wrong, accusations of them being traitors and suggestions that their families should be tracked down  :dash:

Ah yes these proud patriots hiding behind a mask or face covering can then go home and hide behind a keyboard, 1930's Germany would approve  :thumbsdown:

They brought them ashore and offered a taxi service tbh. Its now known as RNLI Taxi service.

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We appear to be drifting slightly over the No Religion rule, perhaps worth reigning it in before the Mods start getting involved  :unknown:

I raised this question a while ago as to clarification on the forum rules re race and religion discussion in the politics thread. I cannot recall if I ever got that clarification? It would appear however that it is allowed?

Offline Blackpool Rock

I raised this question a while ago as to clarification on the forum rules re race and religion discussion in the politics thread. I cannot recall if I ever got that clarification? It would appear however that it is allowed?
I think there will always be a slight crossover / blurred lines when politics takes you into discussions about Israel and people from other countries with predominantly Muslim backgrounds and that's probably accepted however we know how discussions on all manner of threads tend to go off at a tangent even when it's 100% not allowed.


Offline Blackpool Rock

They brought them ashore and offered a taxi service tbh. Its now known as RNLI Taxi service.
It appears that I forgot to attach the link to the news story

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So while the thick as shit knuckle draggers may call the RNLI a taxi service perhaps they should be focussing that comment on the UK border Force  :unknown:
I believe that Farage / Reform have previously made similar comments about the RNLI and these knuckle draggers follow his every word and aren't capable of critical thinking  :crazy:

Sparkes also cited data from the charity which showed only 109 of 9,058 RNLI lifeboat launches last year were for people "in distress in the Channel" - 1.2% of its total rescue work. He added around 95% of small boats were intercepted by the UK Border Force.

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Very good, you have proven you can use Google.
What you have also done is shown that the very definition of Apartheid (which includes the copy and paste below) is exactly what is happening and has been happening for years in that region.  By the way I travelled in Israel many times and saw it with my own eyes.

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Crime Against Humanity: The concept has evolved beyond South Africa. Under international law, apartheid is defined as an institutionalized regime of systematic oppression and domination by one racial group over another, classified as a crime against humanity.

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It appears that I forgot to attach the link to the news story

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So while the thick as shit knuckle draggers may call the RNLI a taxi service perhaps they should be focussing that comment on the UK border Force  :unknown:
I believe that Farage / Reform have previously made similar comments about the RNLI and these knuckle draggers follow his every word and aren't capable of critical thinking  :crazy:

Sparkes also cited data from the charity which showed only 109 of 9,058 RNLI lifeboat launches last year were for people "in distress in the Channel" - 1.2% of its total rescue work. He added around 95% of small boats were intercepted by the UK Border Force.
Some of those same knuckle draggers went to protest outside a hotel where the under 19 Pakistan cricket team were staying.  Not the brightest are they!
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The thick as shit knuckle dragging Portsmouth protesters have now been targeting the RNLI lifeboat crew volunteers who were there to light up the beach because many of the protesters had gone into the sea

Pictures of crew members shared online along with names some of which were wrong, accusations of them being traitors and suggestions that their families should be tracked down  :dash:

Ah yes these proud patriots hiding behind a mask or face covering can then go home and hide behind a keyboard, 1930's Germany would approve  :thumbsdown:

I couldn't agree more. Spot on. All these morons achieve is to allow the Left to tarnish anybody concerned about illegal immigration as being the same as them.

Offline Followyourdick

They brought them ashore and offered a taxi service tbh. Its now known as RNLI Taxi service.
What would you do?  Let them drown?

Offline Blackpool Rock

What would you do?  Let them drown?
As they were there to light the beach up as protestors had gone into the sea then Yes  :D

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You should be thanking Chat GPT
I think he probably uses Claude which only goes to prove how both AI platforms have been set up to propagate Zionism.
There were so many lies in that diatribe that I would be here all day pondering where to start.
I'm reading a book at the moment which lays out a lot of the business relationships which went into the founding of the Zionist colonial project (and indeed the forerunners of what ended up as the CIA) and it is literally like reading a history of organised crime in the USA and beyond.
Ever wondered why there are so many Italian mafia movies but hardly any about the Jewish mob ?
And coincidentally why Hollywood has so many movers and shakers of a certain group ?

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Milliband may be jew. But he is in the party of islam. So has to do what pleases them
Whereas I call them Likud.
Funny that ...............

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I think there will always be a slight crossover / blurred lines when politics takes you into discussions about Israel and people from other countries with predominantly Muslim backgrounds and that's probably accepted however we know how discussions on all manner of threads tend to go off at a tangent even when it's 100% not allowed.

I agree but the rules are unclear on the boundaries.

Offline mightymunce

Milliband may be jew. But he is in the party of islam. So has to do what pleases them

I am old enough to remember Kier reminding us that Israel has the right to defend itself which included targeting hospital, civil and infrastructure and killing loads of kids.

Offline Jerboa

It appears that I forgot to attach the link to the news story

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So while the thick as shit knuckle draggers may call the RNLI a taxi service perhaps they should be focussing that comment on the UK border Force  :unknown:
I believe that Farage / Reform have previously made similar comments about the RNLI and these knuckle draggers follow his every word and aren't capable of critical thinking  :crazy:

Sparkes also cited data from the charity which showed only 109 of 9,058 RNLI lifeboat launches last year were for people "in distress in the Channel" - 1.2% of its total rescue work. He added around 95% of small boats were intercepted by the UK Border Force.

Nobody should be giving the RNLI volunteers a hard time, and we shouldn't generalise, there were hundreds of people at Eastney Sunday night, they actually gave a round of applause to the Fire Engines as they parted to let them leave.

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The thick as shit knuckle dragging Portsmouth protesters have now been targeting the RNLI lifeboat crew volunteers who were there to light up the beach because many of the protesters had gone into the sea

Pictures of crew members shared online along with names some of which were wrong, accusations of them being traitors and suggestions that their families should be tracked down  :dash:

Ah yes these proud patriots hiding behind a mask or face covering can then go home and hide behind a keyboard, 1930's Germany would approve  :thumbsdown:
The RNLI are there to save lives at sea, regardless of where they come from.
Targetting volunteers is the quickest way to get a Life Boat Station closed - if that happens, I hope these protesters are the ones that can't be saved because there's no lifeboat.
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Offline Jerboa

The RNLI are there to save lives at sea, regardless of where they come from.
Forgetting volunteers is the quickest way to get a Life Boat Station closed - if that happens, I hope these protesters are the ones that can't be saved because there's no lifeboat.

I saw a report saying RNLI in the Solent are worried that if migrant boats are allowed to keep crossing in their area, they don't have enough assets to collect them and be on station for real emergencies at sea.