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Sorry to disagree RK but those remarks exposed the whole attitude of Labour, which was to do everything in it's power to suppress any debate about the grooming gangs. She's just a bog standard apparatchik who will follow the party line. Did you see the way she was mooning over Burnham today? Nauseating.

Bingo, her outburst live on radio just shows her true thoughts on the rape of thousands of girls, she only thinks it a racist dog whistle, this mentality prevails in the labour party, they don't want to upset the Muslim voting block.

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US to announce deal allowing Saudi Arabia to develop nuclear power - BBC News

Iran you can't have nuclear but Saudi Arabia can.

You would think that they could do a lot of solar power.

Having civil nuclear program does not go against the non proliferation treaty. Saudi has a military pact with Pakistan, many Pakistani troops serve in the Saudi army, Pakistan's nuclear deterrent apparently would cover Saudi.

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Shabana Mahmood should resign for telling the country that there was a credible terror conspiracy against the itjima festival in Suffolk the other weekend, 12 people were arrested, 8 under the terrorist act, they were held for 7 days, all were released without charges, one guy charged with having a extendable baton. What was their crime? Flying a drone near the festival doing reconnaissance, Starmer already resigned for being a useless mug, who advised him and Mahmood with this jackonory?   

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Jeez. Words fail me. You really don't like muslims do you?

I don't think he actually knows any.

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Shabana Mahmood should resign for telling the country that there was a credible terror conspiracy against the itjima festival in Suffolk the other weekend, 12 people were arrested, 8 under the terrorist act, they were held for 7 days, all were released without charges, one guy charged with having a extendable baton. What was their crime? Flying a drone near the festival doing reconnaissance, Starmer already resigned for being a useless mug, who advised him and Mahmood with this jackonory?   
Officer Dibble saw ''a credible threat'' and the ''government'' thought that it must be true. :rolleyes:

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Offline Massagemanmr

This was to protect muslims. Even today lavour policies favour muslims. The three child cap, favours them. Half of them have 10 kids and dont work.
You can't even hide the racism 😂  you are defo attending the next Tommy march



Offline DastardlyDick

The three child cap, favours them. Half of them have 10 kids and dont work.
How? There's nothing to stop anyone, regardless of ethnicity, from banging out 3 (or more) kids.

Offline Jerboa

You can't even hide the racism 😂  you are defo attending the next Tommy march

What race is the ideology of Islam?  :rolleyes:

Offline RandomGuy99

Why would Saudi Arabia need USA permission?  :unknown:
Because certain things in nuclear power generation and enrichment are only knon to certain countries and the yanks are now going to share this knowledge with the Saudis.

Offline puntingking

Because certain things in nuclear power generation and enrichment are only knon to certain countries and the yanks are now going to share this knowledge with the Saudis.

ok  :hi:

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Because certain things in nuclear power generation and enrichment are only knon to certain countries and the yanks are now going to share this knowledge with the Saudis.

That's not the same as US giving 'permission'. The Saudi's may choose to get knowledge and or tech from the US because of their relationship, but they could approach many countries. And/or the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).

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FFS the naivety here is outstanding.
It was the Saudis who financed the Pakistani nuclear bomb project. And remember there was a lot of cooperation between Pakistan and North Korea
Saudis wanted to have visibly clean hands while the Islamic bomb was built

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I'm glad I'm not a judge, but on the whole judges probably usually get things about right.  (Not always, as when the original judge let the Fordingbridge teenage rapists off without a custodial sentence.)  Judges know the law, they know the precedents and the guidelines.

For the victim's family, sentences will often seem inadequate – as indeed they seem for the "Bang them up and throw away the key!" brigade.  And clearly a lot of people in prison are truly vile people.

However...

When it comes to early release schemes – or indeed "standard" releases on parole before the end of a sentence – the authorities surely need to be cautious about differentiating between types of crime.

The differentiation is expressed in the judge's original sentence.  Rapists and people who mug old ladies get vastly longer sentences than those who steal Mars bars from a sweet shop (and, incidentally, much longer sentences than they would have got two or three decades ago, which is one reason prisons are so full).  So the same proportionality arguably needs to apply when early release is considered.  A "share" of 20 years is a great deal more than a share of 20 months.

This view would be vigorously rejected by many people, not least by a victim's family, who (as in the PC Harper case) are understandably immensely upset by the prospect of any early release.

Incidentally, just in case I'm coming across as too much of a wishy-washy liberal, another part of me would happily send some of these riff-raff to the scaffold!

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Nice to see that they have settled in and made themselves at home so quickly.

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FFS the naivety here is outstanding.
It was the Saudis who financed the Pakistani nuclear bomb project. And remember there was a lot of cooperation between Pakistan and North Korea
Saudis wanted to have visibly clean hands while the Islamic bomb was built
and so they should.

In this world get the bomb OR get bullied

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John Healey to quit as Chancellor over lack of Burnham commitment to get Defence spending up to 3% of GDP by 2030 ?

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John Healey to quit as Chancellor over lack of Burnham commitment to get Defence spending up to 3% of GDP by 2030 ?

Has Healey got a promise from Burnham to fund defence? Labour would have to cut the out of control benefits bill, two hopes that will happen Bob Hope and no hope.

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Angela Rayner has told the BBC she will not repay a £16,876 ministerial severance payment after making her return to the cabinet.


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Angela Rayner has told the BBC she will not repay a £16,876 ministerial severance payment after making her return to the cabinet.

so us taxpayers are helping her pay her tax she didnt pay on her home in Brighton  :thumbsdown:

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Has Healey got a promise from Burnham to fund defence? Labour would have to cut the out of control benefits bill, two hopes that will happen Bob Hope and no hope.

He would seem to think he had.

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Police failed to check synagogue attacker's phones despite arrests

The GMP keystone cops failed to analyse the phone of Jihad Al-Shamie when he was arrested months before the Synagogue attack regarding a rape allegation.
This came after Jihad's mate Mohammad Bashir, who has been jailed for life with a minimum term of 17 years for plotting a separate attack with Al-Shamie on the defence academy Shrivenham.

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Offline Charliehutton

Nice move from Burnham to cut business taxes on pubs. And of course, Lineker and his fellow virtue signalling multi millionaire champagne socialists are volunteering to pay for it.

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BBC News - Burnham to spend first day working from northern branch of No 10
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No 10 in Manchester is directly across the road from the Piccadilly massage place, so I am guessing they'll be moving soon

Offline webpunter

Nice move from Burnham to cut business taxes on pubs. And of course, Lineker and his fellow virtue signalling multi millionaire champagne socialists are volunteering to pay for it.

Virtue signalling knowing it makes good business sense to be seen in a +ve light & they can spout loads of bollocks to anyone prepared to listen
I wonder what % of these tosspots also pay for expensive tax avoidance reduction schemes ?

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Donald Trump says decision on ‘massive attack’ against Iran is close


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Donald Trump says decision on ‘massive attack’ against Iran is close


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So... the last 4 months of attacks haven't been massive?

Offline Blackpool Rock

Nice move from Burnham to cut business taxes on pubs. And of course, Lineker and his fellow virtue signalling multi millionaire champagne socialists are volunteering to pay for it.
Sensible move from Burnham though to get straight in with a "Good news" story not only about a tax cut but a tax cut on pubs which will appeal to the masses  :unknown:

Obviously learnt from the Starmer mistake of announcing taking away winter fuel allowance that I don't think he would ever have recovered from.

Perhaps Andy has a better PR machine more like the one Blair had to keep people on side  :unknown:

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The ranians threaten to attack the bases
There is a constant threat of attack terror plots which the security services take out of action
Whether the US fly from here or not

Try & attack the american base i very dare you
I've driven past it
You can see B52 bombers the wings hanging down a bit
The soldiers patrolling look hard as with big guns
You wouldn't fuck with them even if they didn't have weapons
With some of the biggest alsatians i have ever seen
If it was me organising security i would leave what looks to be a gap, but it isn't just an illusion
To tempt them in
Give the dogs some proper on the job training
Amongst the screams lets leave them a while they seem to have things under control we'll go & have a cup of T

Its for defensive purposes only whats all the mullarkey about ?  :rolleyes:

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Fuel air bombs on the larger cities & forces bases especially the RG ?

Offline Charliehutton

Apparently someone called Jameela Jamil - who I thought used to play for Tottenham - has announced that the British people are the most evil in history, and owe £42 trillion to India, as compensation for colonialism. Thank God Lord Hermer has been booted out, or he'd have negotiated it up to £84 trillion.

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Apparently someone called Jameela Jamil - who I thought used to play for Tottenham - has announced that the British people are the most evil in history, and owe £42 trillion to India, as compensation for colonialism. Thank God Lord Hermer has been booted out, or he'd have negotiated it up to £84 trillion.

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She is a comedian so might be best to check further
She's FAF i would not much

Offline Jerboa

Fuel air bombs on the larger cities & forces bases especially the RG ?

Trump got fooled into this dumb war by Netanyahu and the neocons, he believed the Iranian regime would fall if some force was placed on it. US is running out of offensive missiles as well as defensive missiles, hence why the little comedian in Kiev isn't getting any. US strategic petroleum reserve is nearly empty, few tankers are leaving the gulf, if this carries on crude won't be at $100 it will be above $200!

Offline RandomGuy99

Trump got fooled into this dumb war by Netanyahu and the neocons, he believed the Iranian regime would fall if some force was placed on it. US is running out of offensive missiles as well as defensive missiles, hence why the little comedian in Kiev isn't getting any. US strategic petroleum reserve is nearly empty, few tankers are leaving the gulf, if this carries on crude won't be at $100 it will be above $200!
The US doesn't get its petrol from the gulf states.

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Apparently someone called Jameela Jamil - who I thought used to play for Tottenham - has announced that the British people are the most evil in history, and owe £42 trillion to India, as compensation for colonialism. Thank God Lord Hermer has been booted out, or he'd have negotiated it up to £84 trillion.

Yeah I saw that, she is another one of those talentless bints, who got on tellie by C4's DEI program, went to LA and now call British evil. Funny thing is, if it wasn't for the British Empire that dozzy bird would be sitting in a Bengal slumb washing her dhobi.  :rolleyes:

Offline Jerboa

The US doesn't get its petrol from the gulf states.

So you say, Trump is not always 100% honest.  :D Understand there is a global oil shortage because the straights of hormuz are shut, the US is selling off its SPR so as to keep the oil price stable at $100 a barrel, guess what happens when they stop selling their SPR and the straights are still closed to the majority of oil tankers, that are not Iranian backed?

Offline webpunter

£42 trillion sounds a lot of money however this works out at about £10 each which isn't a lot even in their money
So the extremely poor there will have to carry on selling body parts to the rich

Offline Charliehutton

£42 trillion sounds a lot of money however this works out at about £10 each which isn't a lot even in their money
So the extremely poor there will have to carry on selling body parts to the rich

Are you really Diane Abbott?

Offline Massagemanmr

The ranians threaten to attack the bases
There is a constant threat of attack terror plots which the security services take out of action
Whether the US fly from here or not

Try & attack the american base i very dare you
I've driven past it
You can see B52 bombers the wings hanging down a bit
The soldiers patrolling look hard as with big guns
You wouldn't fuck with them even if they didn't have weapons
With some of the biggest alsatians i have ever seen
If it was me organising security i would leave what looks to be a gap, but it isn't just an illusion
To tempt them in
Give the dogs some proper on the job training
Amongst the screams lets leave them a while they seem to have things under control we'll go & have a cup of T

Its for defensive purposes only whats all the mullarkey about ?  :rolleyes:
please be sensible, Iran will send 50 hyper sonic missles, there is nothing you can do.

we can see evidence of this as they have repeatedly obliterated multiple US bases in the Middle East

Offline mills_and_bhuna

The ranians threaten to attack the bases
There is a constant threat of attack terror plots which the security services take out of action
Whether the US fly from here or not

Try & attack the american base i very dare you
I've driven past it
You can see B52 bombers the wings hanging down a bit
The soldiers patrolling look hard as with big guns
You wouldn't fuck with them even if they didn't have weapons
With some of the biggest alsatians i have ever seen
If it was me organising security i would leave what looks to be a gap, but it isn't just an illusion
To tempt them in
Give the dogs some proper on the job training
Amongst the screams lets leave them a while they seem to have things under control we'll go & have a cup of T

Its for defensive purposes only whats all the mullarkey about ?  :rolleyes:
Seriously? Do you live in some Hollywood inspired fever dream?
And I see you believe every bit of shite the 'security services ' leak to their stenographers in the 'free press' .
The same security services constantly whinging on about Russia, China and Palestine Action while cozying up with their counterparts in Mossad and the CIA.

Offline mills_and_bhuna

please be sensible, Iran will send 50 hyper sonic missles, there is nothing you can do.

we can see evidence of this as they have repeatedly obliterated multiple US bases in the Middle East
I see the Yanks are complaining that the Chinese are giving Iran proper targetting data through their satellite info .
You couldn't make it up.
Looks like the war the neocons have been fantasizing about for years is coming and shit is getting real.

Offline DastardlyDick

The US doesn't get its petrol from the gulf states.
The US gets just over 60% of it's Crude Oil from Canada and 6% from Mexico, most of their refineries are set up to process that specific type, it will take years and billions of $ to convert them. You couldn't pick a much worse Country to pick on if you tried!

Offline finn5555

The ranians threaten to attack the bases
There is a constant threat of attack terror plots which the security services take out of action
Whether the US fly from here or not

Try & attack the american base i very dare you
I've driven past it
You can see B52 bombers the wings hanging down a bit
The soldiers patrolling look hard as with big guns
You wouldn't fuck with them even if they didn't have weapons
With some of the biggest alsatians i have ever seen
If it was me organising security i would leave what looks to be a gap, but it isn't just an illusion
To tempt them in
Give the dogs some proper on the job training
Amongst the screams lets leave them a while they seem to have things under control we'll go & have a cup of T

Its for defensive purposes only whats all the mullarkey about ?  :rolleyes:

All that when all they really need is Rambo 😂😂😂

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please be sensible, Iran will send 50 hyper sonic missles, there is nothing you can do.

we can see evidence of this as they have repeatedly obliterated multiple US bases in the Middle East

Ignoring the debate around whether the missiles Iran has are truly hyper sonic I do not believe they have the range to reach the UK, not even close.

Then "obliterated US bases"?  Have you evidence to support that or is "damaged" a more accurate description.

I appreciate Trump abandoned the truth long ago but no need for us to drop down to the gutter of no standards with him.

Offline Massagemanmr

Ignoring the debate around whether the missiles Iran has are truly hyper sonic I do not believe they have the range to reach the UK, not even close.

Then "obliterated US bases"?  Have you evidence to support that or is "damaged" a more accurate description.

I appreciate Trump abandoned the truth long ago but no need for us to drop down to the gutter of no standards with him.
there is plenty out there and you are informed and upto date .

Meanwhile USA is fuming as Iran destroys secret US middle east  CIA bases

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