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Early days yet, but a game changer if it works.
Uses technology from Moderna's Covid-19 vaccine

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Offline NotATrumpFan

I believe they are also using the same mRNA technology to hit a couple of varieties of cancer too.  Though i dont know how much progress has been made on that yet.  Pretty awesome side effect of the pandemic if they manage to cure these other long standing diseases off the back of the technological progress thats been made.

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I believe they are also using the same mRNA technology to hit a couple of varieties of cancer too.  Though i dont know how much progress has been made on that yet.  Pretty awesome side effect of the pandemic if they manage to cure these other long standing diseases off the back of the technological progress thats been made.

I don't think it's a side effect  of pandemic tbh. Treating cancer using genetic tech has been the goal of biotechnology since the invention of PCR in 1985.

That tech existed before the pandemic - came in very handy and shone a spotlight on it. Hopefully made it more acceptable to the public. Remember the furore over GMO food!

Offline JontyR

Maybe one of our resident scientists / medical men can assist with this question...Would I be correct in presuming that a successful vaccine would lead to a antibody response? With HIV we used to test for the antibodies, if this is the case would all who take the vaccine be safe from infection but still be HIV+ in terms of test results

There was an interesting documentary...think it was a horizon so maybe still on Iplayer...and one of the early leaders in the COVID vaccine development was Australia, but they engineered a virus to come up with a response. Using a structure from HIV meant that it illicited a response that meant that although there was no risk of HIV/AIDS development it completely stopped the research. 

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Maybe one of our resident scientists / medical men can assist with this question...Would I be correct in presuming that a successful vaccine would lead to a antibody response? With HIV we used to test for the antibodies, if this is the case would all who take the vaccine be safe from infection but still be HIV+ in terms of test results


I think Fourth Generation screening tests are now standard. As well as looking for antibodies, it is also an antigen test which looks for a component of the virus itself. It does require a sample of venous blood though. Home testing kits are looking just for antibodies. Currently antibody tests are sufficient as the only way you can have antibodies is if you have been exposed to and contracted the virus.

Once someone has been diagnosed they will of course be repeatedly tested for viral load present in their blood stream in conjunction with antiviral treatment.

Vaccines would alter that so testing regimes would need to change but that probably would be a small price to pay if there was a successful vaccine.

I am not optimistic about vaccine success. There are two issues with HIV and vaccines. One is it constantly mutates, but more importantly despite the production of antibodies the immune system is unable to completely clear the virus from the body as it would with most other viruses (including Sars) and it becomes a chronic condition.


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Offline JontyR

Thank you Doc. Much appreciated.