Fuckme_carmenxo Paisley

[glasgow_69]

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So I have met this girl before and gave her a positive review. It was that good I’ve been trying to arrange a repeat. This is why it’s a negative now.
Twice this week I’ve arranged to meet her in paisley at flat she uses. I’ve had an agreed time, parked on street, messaged to say I’m outside and ghosted. First time I can accept maybe something last minute has come up but not twice. I even waited the usual 15-20 mins after my agreed time but still nothing. My messages remain unread 6 hours later. If you can actually meet this girl you will have a great time bur sadly this side of her let’s her down.

[buddiemarvelous]

Why not just press the buzzer for her flat when you arrive?

[Strada79]

Why not just press the buzzer for her flat when you arrive?

Because discretion is the name of the game on both sides, and therefore it’s only right to wait until the person you’re visiting says the coast is clear. Could have family or another client in.

[Glesgaboy]

I smell BS here.
The OP has limited posting. And all abt this girl
On meeting the OP for the second time …. SMS text is the norm for comms not AW messaging…
It all stinks to me and I’ve seen her multiple times
 

[glasgow_69]

I smell BS here.
The OP has limited posting. And all abt this girl
On meeting the OP for the second time …. SMS text is the norm for comms not AW messaging…
It all stinks to me and I’ve seen her multiple times
 

I have limited posting as not met many. I agree an SMS would be best way but no number on her page and didn’t get it last time. Was all done through AW. As I said, she was a great meet and want to meet again. I’m sure I’m not the only person she’s done it too.

[Glesgaboy]

How can you be sure…🤔

[The_Rose_age]

Same things happened to me, arranged, booked, got number and postcode told to text when I’m there then nothing until 20 min later offering to see me in an hours time - WASTE OF TIME wouldn’t bother my arse booking again

[Thepunteruk]

The real issue is - how many times has she done this to countless other punters who don't use / or review on here. You can bet it is dozens upon dozens, minimum.

[Jock D]

The real issue is - how many times has she done this to countless other punters who don't use / or review on here. You can bet it is dozens upon dozens, minimum.

+1

[Clattypats]

I can take cancellations as I realise stuff happens in life and punting/Escorting ain't the be all and end all, but very seldom do I like "radio silence"... 

Even in they instances I give some benefit of doubt... But when I hear nothing back at all - whether that be on the day or even days after- I find that ignorant as fuck... I never look to book again no matter how favourable the reviews are on here... 

[Glesgaboy]

+1
( Vanessa Hope being my own case in point as reviewed here)

[glasgow_69]

So I finally got a reply. 3 days later.
I was offered a time and shouldn’t have shown up as she hadn’t confirmed it. 
I think she is taking offering multiple people the same times and then picking either the first person that replies. Pretty shitty way of working it if you ask me.

[FBman78]

So I finally got a reply. 3 days later.
I was offered a time and shouldn’t have shown up as she hadn’t confirmed it. 
I think she is taking offering multiple people the same times and then picking either the first person that replies. Pretty shitty way of working it if you ask me.

I just think she is a part timer who is extremely poor at organising herself and too much hassle to meet tbh.

[Problem Child]

So I finally got a reply. 3 days later.
I was offered a time and shouldn’t have shown up as she hadn’t confirmed it. 
I think she is taking offering multiple people the same times and then picking either the first person that replies. Pretty shitty way of working it if you ask me.

Had you actually confirmed it though?
Just asking if an escort is available then getting an affirmative response isn’t a confirmed booking.
I also always confirm on the morning of a booking if it’s not same day.

Carmens time keeping is shit and her organisation is def not the best, but I’ve never known her to double book cunts. ( if that’s what ur saying u think happened?)

One thing to remember is this is just a job to escorts. Fuck ups/being ghosted/ radio silence etc are fucking annoying, but don’t take it personally. Put it in the fuck it bucket and move on.

[glasgow_69]

Had you actually confirmed it though?
Just asking if an escort is available then getting an affirmative response isn’t a confirmed booking.
I also always confirm on the morning of a booking if it’s not same day.

Carmens time keeping is shit and her organisation is def not the best, but I’ve never known her to double book cunts. ( if that’s what ur saying u think happened?)

One thing to remember is this is just a job to escorts. Fuck ups/being ghosted/ radio silence etc are fucking annoying, but don’t take it personally. Put it in the fuck it bucket and move on.

It was a same day booking. She messaged me to say the time was available.
That’s exactly where it’s stored. Won’t be losing any sleep over it.

[henry brubaker]

It was a same day booking. She messaged me to say the time was available.
That’s exactly where it’s stored. Won’t be losing any sleep over it.

I'm assuming she gave you the location? If she gave you a time and location, then I would take that as booking confirmed.

[Problem Child]

It was a same day booking. She messaged me to say the time was available.
That’s exactly where it’s stored. Won’t be losing any sleep over it.

If she messaged to say the time was available and you didn’t say “ ok see you then” or words to that effect  then that’s not a confirmed booking imo. It’s just an enquiry.

Also the fuck it bucket thing wasn’t particularly directed at u, just a general observation.. as clatty said this isn’t the be all and end all..

[Matrix]

Twice this week I’ve arranged to meet her in paisley at flat she uses. I’ve had an agreed time,

[Thepunteruk]

She seems to be getting actually worse at this.
However the OP and others have actually gone about their booking process, she has pissed off these punters.
Even the ones that are still mildly praising her, are accepting  never even being close to starting on time.
A very high risk booking at any time now. Buyer beware.

[Problem Child]

She seems to be getting actually worse at this.
However the OP and others have actually gone about their booking process, she has pissed off these punters.
Even the ones that are still mildly praising her, are accepting  never even being close to starting on time.
A very high risk booking at any time now. Buyer beware.

Think you’re bring a tad over dramatic in your posts on this thread.

I don’t want to put words in an other posters mouth (so he can feel free to tell me to fuck off if I’m talking shite), but if fairly prolific (not problem  ) punters like GB and me see an escort “multiple times” it tells you something- she’s really fucking good at her job.  Well the aspect of the job that’s most important to me anyway. I don’t want to give specifics coz I value my anonymity, but her cancellation to booking ratio is pretty much par for the course in my experience. Also, if you look at her other neg for ghosting, it seems to me to be a fuck up in communication, which I suspect might be the case here.
As I said it’s a job nothing more, nothing less, it’s not personal, so don’t take it that way if things don’t go to plan. 

[seeker]

I've seen Carmen  numerous times over the months  ,
First meeting almost didn't happen due to the previous punter
Apparently overstaying by 20 minutes in the shower .
Apart from that
Never had a issue except the usual 15 minutes late start,
Shes even turned up on time a few times 
I do think she prioritises her regulars as is her choice, as you would do in any business.
But once a booking has been taken, it should be honoured.
Unless something unavoidable comes up .
As we all know SHIT HAPPENS   
Always have a plan B .

[Glesgaboy]

I’m on the same page as Seeker and PC.

Her time keeping and admin are shaky but not much worse than many SPs.
My experience is based on seeing regularly since she went indie and given the high energy service she delivers, I’ll stick with it as she clearly does prioritise regulars in order to avoid cancellations etc which impact on her earnings. 

[Clattypats]

If she messaged to say the time was available and you didn’t say “ ok see you then” or words to that effect  then that’s not a confirmed booking imo. It’s just an enquiry.

This IMO is the key point, problem is only the OP is privy to all the communications that went on between them, but he has to be more concise...

eg. I'll email a WG and put a time/duration fwd I'm looking to book and they'll come back with a yes or no... If its a no they may offer another time, to which I'd reply:

 "Yeah [insert time....] is fine, see you then, I'll text on arrival for flat/room/buzzer number" or words to that effect...

If that's the reply I give then that's a confirmed booking in my eyes, only mitigating circumstances there would be if there was too long a time period between her asking me and me answering, then I would need her to confirm that she was still ok with the time she offered me after not being able do do the initial time I suggested...

The OP should really know within himself if it was a confirmed booking or not anyway 

She may actually be better asking punters to put through a booking request then there will be no confusion whatsoever... and she may feel more obligated to stick to a booking... Then all parties can live happily ever after! 

[Thepunteruk]

Think you’re bring a tad over dramatic in your posts on this thread.

I don’t want to put words in an other posters mouth (so he can feel free to tell me to fuck off if I’m talking shite), but if fairly prolific (not problem  ) punters like GB and me see an escort “multiple times” it tells you something- she’s really fucking good at her job.  Well the aspect of the job that’s most important to me anyway. I don’t want to give specifics coz I value my anonymity, but her cancellation to booking ratio is pretty much par for the course in my experience. Also, if you look at her other neg for ghosting, it seems to me to be a fuck up in communication, which I suspect might be the case here.
As I said it’s a job nothing more, nothing less, it’s not personal, so don’t take it that way if things don’t go to plan. 

PC, I have no issue at all with your input. This is a forum after all, and we will not agree on everything all the time.
You think I'm being dramatic, I feel you're giving her an over generous amount of leeway.

I think her timekeeping, ghosting and late starts are not acceptable. Seen her a few times and decided the hassle was now not worth it.
You, seeker and GBoy have persevered. Different strokes and all that.

What we do agree on is she is an absolute top level fuck. Fact.

But I'll repeat, it will be multiple other punters she will let down as only a small percentage will use this forum, and even then only a few of those will register their displeasure.

Edit; I should have added a negative review for the time I was "cancelled". But I only mentioned it in my neutral review.

[seeker]

Not really bothered with non members or leeches getting fucked about 
If they where ukp members they could register their experience,negative or positive.
Otherwise its just conjecture.
Members should always review a Negative experience.
She is also not a full time wg, works 2 or  3 afternoons a week,
so that says to me she must have other Obligations and priorities.
 she's not a clock watcher ....
We need more wgs with her enthusiasm, 
But with better time keeping 

[seeker]

 

[Clattypats]

She is also not a full time wg, works 2 or  3 afternoons a week,
so that says to me she must have other Obligations and priorities.
 she's not a clock watcher ....

Fulltime/part time it doesn't matter, ghosting clients is poor form... Like I've said things can crop up in life that are more important than punting/Escorting, and going by previous posts regarding her on this forum I could maybe see why...

I've had radio silence before where I've heard nothing on arrival or at all thereafter (her being one) ... I've also had times where the WG has got back to me later that day, or a day or two or three later apologising, and with the offer of a rearranged booking , which I don't mind and have accepted a rearranged booking on occasion... Its called common courtesy... 

Perhaps one of her "regs" could ask her how she likes it when a booking is confirmed and the client ghosts her... I would imagine she doesn't as she'll lose money... Punters don't for other reasons obviously...

I've said it numerous times on here: Punters don't like time wasting Wgs, and Wgs don't like time wasting punters, and rightly so    Its a two way street...

[Problem Child]

PC, I have no issue at all with your input. This is a forum after all, and we will not agree on everything all the time.
You think I'm being dramatic, I feel you're giving her an over generous amount of leeway.

I think her timekeeping, ghosting and late starts are not acceptable. Seen her a few times and decided the hassle was now not worth it.
You, seeker and GBoy have persevered. Different strokes and all that.

What we do agree on is she is an absolute top level fuck. Fact.

But I'll repeat, it will be multiple other punters she will let down as only a small percentage will use this forum, and even then only a few of those will register their displeasure.

Edit; I should have added a negative review for the time I was "cancelled". But I only mentioned it in my neutral review.

We all have different priorities, so you finding her time keeping unacceptable and taking your custom elsewhere is not a problem and you’re completely justified in doing that.

The bits of your posts that I thought were over dramatic were “countless” , “dozens upon dozens” which seeker has pretty much summed up my thoughts on.
Also describing Carmen  as “a very high risk booking “ doesn’t match my experience.
“Buyer beware” has connotations of faulty goods to me and with Carmen the goods definitely are not faulty…

As you said we’re all different and will agree and disagree on various things, but I thought you were a bit harsh in your posts, so decided to polish up my armour and get my trusty white steed from my stables.
 

[oddson1970]

l had a second booking with her recently and it started about 5 mins after the agreed time , the 1st visit being about 15 mins past the start time.l can live with that as she is great fun but my opinion would change if l was ghosted.IMO , l think she is just very disorganised and l doubt that will change anytime soon.l really can't say she double books as only she can answer that one but l will see her again as the "risk "justifies the reward.

[seeker]

She seems to be getting actually worse at this.
However the OP and others have actually gone about their booking process, she has pissed off these punters.
Even the ones that are still mildly praising her, are accepting  never even being close to starting on time.
A very high risk booking at any time now. Buyer beware.

Most wgs are 5,10 ,15 late ,we all know this ,so less of the dramatics 
I'd rather Carmen was properly clean and my booking starts 15 minutes later
Than a wg who just "baby wipes " her Foo foo  .
She hasn't pissed me or everyone  off ,so stop the  presuppositions.
Seriously you are coming across like someone with a wee axe to grind
 who has
Been refused a booking for what ever reason.?
There are of course other Wgs you could spend your hard earned on .

[Clattypats]

Most wgs are 5,10 ,15 late ,we all know this ,so less of the dramatics 
I'd rather Carmen was properly clean and my booking starts 15 minutes later
Than a wg who just "baby wipes " her Foo foo  .
She hasn't pissed me or everyone  off ,so stop the  presuppositions.
Seriously you are coming across like someone with a wee axe to grind
 who has
Been refused a booking for what ever reason.?
There are of course other Wgs you could spend your hard earned on .

Irrespective of what Thepunteruk is saying or whether he has an axe to grind or whatever, the gist of the review is "radio silence" which we still don't know if it was an "actual" confirmed booking or not, as I and others have alluded to...

5,10, 15 minutes late does happen, maybe she should space bookings out slightly better, that's her business... Shite/ropey comms happen but majority of time a booking will happen...

Do you not think radio silence/ghosting is poor form?

Here's a wee conundrum for you:
Two different punters book the same WG for the same day/date... One punter gets a cancellation text with an explanation, let's call it a genuine explanation which it could well be   

The other punter turns up at said location, sends 2/3 texts periodically just before and after arranged booking time,  but gets ghosted... Never gets an explanation, apology or chance of a rearranged booking thereafter at any point... Would you class that as poor form? 

[Glesgaboy]

+1 Seeker

“There is a high risk” of her being 15 minutes or so late ( same as any girl-SP or Civvy ffs).

We are indeed all now “aware” thanks to this unnecessarily long thread about a perceived tsunami which is actually in a small vessel made of china.

Let’s move on ,be pals and get punting lads 

[Clattypats]

+1 Seeker

“There is a high risk” of her being 15 minutes or so late ( same as any girl-SP or Civvy ffs).

We are indeed all now “aware” thanks to this unnecessarily long thread about a perceived tsunami which is actually in a small vessel made of china.

Let’s move on ,be pals and get punting lads 

You're right Gb, I don't want to say much more on it, but here's the case in point:
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=315296.msg3292012#msg3292012

My booking was for the exact same day you made this post I didn't comment on the thread at that point in time, as rightly, I didn't think it  was wise...

To me that's poor form... 

[glasgow_69]

I think we can all agree she's a great fuck. The enthusiasm she puts in is second to none. Even though she has ghosted me I'd still return again.
I think we can also all agree her time keeping and communications can be dreadful as well.

When I booked the meet, I knew the location and she messaged me at midday asking if 1:30pm was ok for me. I expected 1:30 to be ok with her as well since she messaged me after having to let me down previously.  I didn't expect a follow up message giving me a location as I knew it. I arrived just before 1:30 and when I seen my previous message was unread I still gave the benefit of the doubt incase she was in another meet at that time and couldn't read/reply and I know she is late 99% of the time.

I know things come up at short notice and I think she has a young kid which makes things even more unpredictable. Not gonna lose any sleep over it and we move on.

[Thepunteruk]

Most wgs are 5,10 ,15 late ,we all know this ,so less of the dramatics 
I'd rather Carmen was properly clean and my booking starts 15 minutes later
Than a wg who just "baby wipes " her Foo foo  .
She hasn't pissed me or everyone  off ,so stop the  presuppositions.
Seriously you are coming across like someone with a wee axe to grind
 who has
Been refused a booking for what ever reason.?
There are of course other Wgs you could spend your hard earned on .

Oh dear seeker, problem child joked about it, but you're closer to getting your white steed out the stables.

Glasgow69 - ghosted (twice)
The roseage - put back 90 mins / cancelled
Tucky21 - ghosted
Clatty - ghosted
Glasgow 28 - put back over 30 mins / cancelled
Myself - contacted after expected start time and told meeting cancelled. No apology or explanation given.
For that particular visit, I had moved a lot of other stuff for business. So yes, that is the extent of my "axe to grind".

My only presupposition is that she will have done the same thing to others that do not use this site, and (perhaps) people on here who for whatever reason do not review.
A reasonable and fair point I think you'll agree.

I have indeed moved on and taken my hard earned elsewhere, through my choice. And I'm simply commenting on this girl's continued dreadful level of customer service, albeit not to everyone.
I accept the positive comments from yourself, PC and GB. But you're all being blinkered if you don't accept my, and other user's, negative input.

[seeker]

I did say this in my first post .

"But once a booking has been taken, it should be honoured."

But the op has said he didn't confirm or reconfirm the time.

Plenty more fish in the Pond
happy punting all 

[Thepunteruk]

I did say this in my first post .

"But once a booking has been taken, it should be honoured."

But the op has said he didn't confirm or reconfirm the time.

Plenty more fish in the Pond
happy punting all 

 

[Dman88]

I have indeed moved on and taken my hard earned elsewhere, through my choice.

No, you got barred for being malicious and trying to use this site as leverage.

[Dman88]

So, what to do? I decided to give her 1 last chance so I could try something.

Try what? Using your membership here to get “special treatment”? How did that work out for you?

[Scotpak]

Try what? Using your membership here to get “special treatment”? How did that work out for you?

Are you GEA?
You seem to know everything GEA past and current, how do you know he declared his ukp membership?
It's not something that would come up during a fuck do you have a special relationship with Carmen?
It's ok if you do but if your Carmen's appointed public speaker you should declare it otherwise it's just malicious accusations.

When I first booked Carmen months ago I knew time keeping might be an issue still worth it and she's still in my top 3 fucks of all time.

I think part of the problem is she knows she's miles ahead of other working girls in Glasgow she's put up her prices made people wait ghosted people and still always fully booked.

I don't think that will change with the last couple of reviews one sounds a bit shaky and one definitely sounds bitter about all things Carmen.

[Dman88]

Carmen texted me and told me that she barred him six months ago for being malicious and threatening with this site. Given the rampage he’s been on for the past few days I’m inclined to believe that.

[Thepunteruk]

Try what? Using your membership here to get “special treatment”? How did that work out for you?

Ah, Dman88, previously suspected to be a WG (or at the very least having an unhealthy interest in an agency).
I must say that post above is suspiciously written in the style of a concerned female, or indeed a WG.
Whatever info you think you have is way off the mark, I have never declared to any girl anything about my membership here. When asked, albeit very seldomly, I state I do not use review sites.
All my reviews are written with the utmost attempt at being completely anonymous. Unlike some that state "I seen (girl's name) yesterday at 4:05pm".

And with 41 posts in your last 50 all concerning Carmen, I think you have some justifying to do. Or an interest to declare.

[Scotpak]

Carmen texted me and told me that she barred him six months ago for being malicious and threatening with this site. Given the rampage he’s been on for the past few days I’m inclined to believe that.

Thanks for adding a bit of context, if true it's a shite thing to do and would explain his campaign against Carmen and his need to comment on everything Carmen.

Still strange that out if all Carmen's regulars she chose to text you this unless you know her outside of punting?

[Thepunteruk]

The context is inaccurate.
Threatening behaviour is completely abhorrent and low life behaviour. I'm afraid it is not myself, and someone making 5 from 2+2.

[seeker]

Carmen texted me and told me that she barred him six months ago for being malicious and threatening with this site. Given the rampage he’s been on for the past few days I’m inclined to believe that.

If, this is in anyway  true
It is despicable behaviour
And no ,there's no steed or polished armour in sight .
Just an uneasy feeling that this may be true as I alluded to before
Apart from her great service, she comes across as a nice warm human being.

[Matrix]

Carmen texted me and told me that she barred him six months ago for being malicious and threatening with this site. Given the rampage he’s been on for the past few days I’m inclined to believe that.

Why would she text you and tell you all of this?

Did you let her know that you're a member here to gain favour or are you just sad?

[Boinky]

+1

It's fucking weird.

Both that and their inside knowledge of GEA.

[daviemac]

Carmen texted me and told me that she barred him six months ago for being malicious and threatening with this site. Given the rampage he’s been on for the past few days I’m inclined to believe that.

Why would she do that if you are not associated with them, You do know you have to declare any involvement other than as a punter,

[Clattypats]

Why would she do that if you are not associated with them, You do know you have to declare any involvement other than as a punter,

Something I've said previously, but to no avail... He's compromised...

[Clattypats]

Carmen texted me and told me that she barred him six months ago for being malicious and threatening with this site. Given the rampage he’s been on for the past few days I’m inclined to believe that.

Always best to respond to threads where you make accusations then don't get back to the replies...

At the moment it is his word against hers/yours- You are a 3rd party - If someone is using this site as leverage (no one knows this for fact) then that's out of order 

If you are in contact with her and she has texted you, then perhaps she could join the site and explain herself/ the situation...Failing that, if she doesn't want to post, if she has any textual evidence then she could always screenshot it and send it by PM to an admin/mod for them to decide... I think that can be done...

Otherwise it's basically mud slinging where none of us know where the truth lies...

IMO You take too much to do with her sexual practices on here, whether that be sti certificates down to covid certs etc... There is a difference between sticking up for something you believe is right, and overkill...