Pimp opened the door for me in Shieldfield.

[Joe Cocker]

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I dont mind trying ads like this as I like Chinese girls and sometimes they reveal hidden gems, Im happy to walk if I dont like what I see.

So this week I get directed to a house in Shieldfield, not the tidiest from the outside and clearly visible to other houses. I find adds like this end up taking me to well known haunts but this time I put my jacket hood up and went for it.

To my surprise some geeky Chinese bloke about 25yrs old opens the door and points to the stars saying 'she's up there'. My immediate reaction was to walk but curiosity got the better of me so I went upstairs into a really messy bedroom to see a very beautiful young Chinese girl, I couldn't decide if she looked shy or there against her will but either way I turned and walked, it wasnt for me.

When I got back to my car which had a clear view of the house I noticed another car parking up near me and a guy in his late 50s got out, he headed towards the house and had 'punter' written all him to me. I chuckled to myself as he stepped foot in the door and within literally two seconds he was on his way out once he realised the pimp was doing the door.

The house downstairs looked a tip and upstairs was no better but the girl herself was immaculate and very pretty. It was never going to be for me but it makes me wonder what sort of thing is going on behind these closed doors.

[daviemac]

Did you report it.   

[Joe Cocker]

Did you report it.   

I felt like I wanted to but didnt know how to, I wasnt keen on ringing the police even from my punting sim.

I still have the address so if you can point me in the right direction that maintains my anonymity I certainly will.

[daviemac]

I felt like I wanted to but didnt know how to, I wasnt keen on ringing the police even from my punting sim.

I still have the address so if you can point me in the right direction that maintains my anonymity I certainly will.

The first one that springs to mind is Crimestoppers, apart from that I would need to make a few enquiries about how to contact the police about it.

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[Joe Cocker]

The first one that springs to mind is Crimestoppers, apart from that I would need to make a few enquiries about how to contact the police about it.

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Im not keen on the idea of sending anonymous messages from my computer as I dont believe they really are anonymous, everything can be tracked these days. I seriously did consider going to Forth Banks police station and just walking in but again I end up convincing myself they would insist on my name and before I knew it I would be locked up.

Stuff like this is worrying in case they said I had been part of something and was only complaining because I was disgruntled. Before you know it you have talked yourself out of trying to help. For all I know she could have been his girlfriend as he wasnt your average menacing looking pimp, more like a tech geek who might hijack your phone 

It certainly makes me wonder.

[Fragilehand]

I would use your burner phone to call 101 or crimestoppers give a fake name

[Joe Cocker]

I would use your burner phone to call 101 or crimestoppers give a fake name

I was concerned that my burner sim was paid for at Tesco with my debit card and might be able to be traced.

I did think just using a call box to ring 101 would be secure.

[waynekerr600]

The OP hasn't done anything wrong and had nothing too great from the police

As far as I'm aware crimestoppers is an anonymous charity separate to the police so that could be the way to go.

[Dweeb]

Im not keen on the idea of sending anonymous messages from my computer as I dont believe they really are anonymous, everything can be tracked these days. I seriously did consider going to Forth Banks police station and just walking in but again I end up convincing myself they would insist on my name and before I knew it I would be locked up.

Stuff like this is worrying in case they said I had been part of something and was only complaining because I was disgruntled. Before you know it you have talked yourself out of trying to help. For all I know she could have been his girlfriend as he wasnt your average menacing looking pimp, more like a tech geek who might hijack your phone 

It certainly makes me wonder.

Use a phone box. As long as they have the details they won't be too bothered about the caller. It'll be passed along the chain and they'll check it out.

[scutty brown]

Im not keen on the idea of sending anonymous messages from my computer as I dont believe they really are anonymous, everything can be tracked these days. I seriously did consider going to Forth Banks police station and just walking in but again I end up convincing myself they would insist on my name and before I knew it I would be locked up.

Stuff like this is worrying in case they said I had been part of something and was only complaining because I was disgruntled. Before you know it you have talked yourself out of trying to help. For all I know she could have been his girlfriend as he wasnt your average menacing looking pimp, more like a tech geek who might hijack your phone 

It certainly makes me wonder.

You are overthinking it.
YOU DID NOTHING WRONG: you walked when you realised something wasn't right. There is nothing you can be charged with.
You've described a typical Chinese trafficking setup. Report it before they move address.
Either call Crimestoppers or 101
101 will be quicker

Based on what you have said you have nothing to fear from the police.

Speed is the important factor if they are to get her out before she's moved to a new address

[Fragilehand]

I was concerned that my burner sim was paid for at Tesco with my debit card and might be able to be traced.

I did think just using a call box to ring 101 would be secure.

I think your overthinking it. Many years ago I walked out of a house roms were running a brothel. Never been so scared as I was stopped in my car by 2 officers. 1st thing they said was we don't care about who you are just tell us how they are advertising and what's going on inside the house. And that was that.

[Kev3773]

I think your overthinking it. Many years ago I walked out of a house roms were running a brothel. Never been so scared as I was stopped in my car by 2 officers. 1st thing they said was we don't care about who you are just tell us how they are advertising and what's going on inside the house. And that was that.

Agree, I got pulled many years ago after visiting a Notorious Girls place, they were actually quite good with me and were only interested in the agency.

[longview]

CAB Link here  External Link/Members Only  short version report to Police or Crimestoppers

[Joe Cocker]

Ive used my punting PAYG sim to report it to 101.

Gave the phone number they are using plus the address. I sent a text again this morning and the reply was immediate with the usual list of prices and services and was told it was the last day. Told all this to the Police, lets hope they actually pay them a visit.

The call handler did ask my name but I said I would prefer not to give it, she accepted that. My only concern and its probably me being paranoid was she put me on hold for a couple of minutes, I hope they weren't tracking my location or is that only in the films? 

Shit like this worries me as Im very discreet with my punting and my Mrs has no idea, I am certain of that.

[scutty brown]

Ive used my punting PAYG sim to report it to 101.

Gave the phone number they are using plus the address. I sent a text again this morning and the reply was immediate with the usual list of prices and services and was told it was the last day. Told all this to the Police, lets hope they actually pay them a visit.

The call handler did ask my name but I said I would prefer not to give it, she accepted that. My only concern and its probably me being paranoid was she put me on hold for a couple of minutes, I hope they weren't tracking my location or is that only in the films? 

Shit like this worries me as Im very discreet with my punting and my Mrs has no idea, I am certain of that.

You've watched too many films
They'd need to obtain a warrant and then place an order on the phone company before they could even begin trying to triangulate you. Even then its not accurate. And really not worth the effort. And why would they want to? You reported a crime, you're not a suspect.

The reason she put you on hold is almost certainly she was taking advice over how to process the call.

Important thing now is not to post any more details: don't give away anything like addresses or names which may compromise the investigation or warn them

[northface]

There's a program on BBC2 tomorrow night at 11.15 showing how the Romanian traffickers operate their girls here.

[daviemac]

Ive used my punting PAYG sim to report it to 101.

Cheers for reporting it, the more people that report this sort of thing when they come across it the better. 

[maxxblue]

I felt like I wanted to but didnt know how to, I wasnt keen on ringing the police even from my punting sim.

I still have the address so if you can point me in the right direction that maintains my anonymity I certainly will.

There's also the 'concerns of exploitation' link on the Vivastreet advert itself. 

[scutty brown]

Joe
you didn't say whether you did or not, but for future reference it helps if you tell them the VS or AW profile numbers

in this case 240601186

[scutty brown]

There's also the 'concerns of exploitation' link on the Vivastreet advert itself. 

VS very rarely act on reports via that link. It takes something very major for them to react

[maxxblue]

VS very rarely act on reports via that link. It takes something very major for them to react

VS never act on reports via that link - it takes you to an independent organisation called Unseen, a national anti-trafficking charity . 

[tynetunnel]

Good work on reporting this JC, you should be proud of yourself. It’s out of your hands now so what happens next isn’t up to you. But you’ve done your bit by walking and reporting, that’s all you can do 

[ollie52]

Well done to the OP for reporting can be a nerve racking but like everyone has said you have nothing to worry about bu reporting the situation.

I now restrict myself to English speaking girls only would be my worse nightmare to know I was with a girl who was forced or trafficked.

[Joe Cocker]

Ive been thinking about this all day and wondering if the police have paid a visit and if so what the outcome was.

I checked on VS and the advert was still there. I texted the number asking if anyone was available at 8pm for 30 mins, almost immediately I get a reply listing a range of services and prices so it looks like reporting this to the police was a waste of time. The ad states they are leaving tomorrow and I made that explicitly clear to the 101 call handler.

I really do wonder if the police give a toss about stuff like this as they are so hopelessly overstretched?

[daviemac]

Ive been thinking about this all day and wondering if the police have paid a visit and if so what the outcome was.

I checked on VS and the advert was still there. I texted the number asking if anyone was available at 8pm for 30 mins, almost immediately I get a reply listing a range of services and prices so it looks like reporting this to the police was a waste of time. The ad states they are leaving tomorrow and I made that explicitly clear to the 101 call handler.

I really do wonder if the police give a toss about stuff like this as they are so hopelessly overstretched?

I don't understand this, you think it was a waste of time and you presume the police did nothing just because you don't know the outcome

The truth is they may well have paid them a visit but either found it to be perfectly legit or they couldn't find enough evidence. It can sometimes take years to build a strong enough case that will stand up in court.

Rest assured you did the right thing in reporting it, don't ever think it a waste of time, it isn't. If anyone suspects trafficking then it should be reported, if they can't do anything at the time at the very least it will put them on the police radar so they are aware of them and could help to build a better case to go to court with.

[nerascal]

There have been cases of gangs targeting Chinese places. Piling in and robbing the girls when they open the door.

I think some have a 'minder' based there to answer the door so it can't be assumed that a bloke there is always a pimp. I know Chinese girls who are independent and tour different towns but do sometimes work at a location with a doorman in certain locations.

[snooker]

Over the years a couple of pimps have opened the door to me and I never suspected trafficking.
One was in Newcastle one in Sunderland.
They were both Chinese and there wasn’t a problem.I remember one of them saying The girls upstairs and I paid her not him.

[northface]

There have been cases of gangs targeting Chinese places. Piling in and robbing the girls when they open the door.

I think some have a 'minder' based there to answer the door so it can't be assumed that a bloke there is always a pimp. I know Chinese girls who are independent and tour different towns but do sometimes work at a location with a doorman in certain locations.

Yes i brought this up a couple of months ago when one establishment was targeted and the girls demanded 2 minders.

[scutty brown]

There have been cases of gangs targeting Chinese places. Piling in and robbing the girls when they open the door.

I think some have a 'minder' based there to answer the door so it can't be assumed that a bloke there is always a pimp. I know Chinese girls who are independent and tour different towns but do sometimes work at a location with a doorman in certain locations.

Don't delude yourself. In most cases the primary role of the minder is to stop the girl running away.

[nerascal]

Don't delude yourself. In most cases the primary role of the minder is to stop the girl running away.

I'm sure there are places that are run by pimps with trafficked girlsI've got the personal numbers of the girls in question and keep in touch. Can't see that happening with girls who are coerced.

[scutty brown]

I'm sure there are places that are run by pimps with trafficked girlsI've got the personal numbers of the girls in question and keep in touch. Can't see that happening with girls who are coerced.

It happens
Many Chinese girls are kept under control by threats to their families if they don't work to repay trumped up massive debts.
Could be inflated trafficking charges, in some cases the girl is helped to run up gambling debts - which effectively turns her into a bonded slave

[Alastor22]

Besides what everyone has said, I am more shocked to hear you weren’t baited and switched lol.

[Joe Cocker]

Besides what everyone has said, I am more shocked to hear you weren’t baited and switched lol.

I was, it wasnt the girl in the pictures.