Ratsamee Therapeutic Massage - Massage only - Wolverhampton

[RaajValdez]

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Location - Parkfields area of the city. Small basic house. Massage table in the upstairs bedroom. Very basic, though clean.

Masseuse - average looks, but clean, presentable and very polite.

If you look at her ad on gumtree, she is adamant that she does not provide extras. However, I thought I would try my luck. Paid £40 for the massage, undressed completely and then got onto the table. Ratsamee entered the room, covered my middle with a towel and started the massage. I offered another £20 for HE and she refused. I upped the amount to £30, still no. Even the threat of me leaving didn’t sway her. Certainly a person with principles. I really wanted a HE but knew at this stage I wasn’t getting it from her. So after 3 mins of massage I told her to stop as I didn’t want to continue. She handed me back £35, I got dressed and left.

She was very polite as I left. From the few minutes of massage I had, it was clear that she is a very good masseuse, just don’t expect anything else guys.

This happened at the beginning of November.

[GingerNuts]

This is a punter friendly forum but sometimes punters try to push things too far.

There are a lot of massage providers who are known to do extras but throw in the usual "no sexual services" to keep Gumtree happy. You decided to visit one that is pretty clearly legitimate and threw your toys when your offers were declined.

As you "really wanted a HE" you should have visited someone known to offer it instead of trying to get the poor girl to do it with increasing offers of money and threats to leave. Count yourself lucky she gave you most of your money back.

From the advert:

Most massage techniques are traditionally performed with the client unclothed; however, it is entirely up to you what you want to wear. You should undress to your level of comfort. You will be properly draped under a sheet during the entire session.

A typical full body massage will include work on your back, arms, legs, feet, hands, head, neck and shoulders. You will not be touched on or near your genitals (male or female) or breasts (female).

Note: Our massage therapy is strictly professional and for health benefit. We do not provide any 'intimate services' which you may of seen advertised elsewhere.

[bonham]

Ive been to a few massage places and didn't get he and knew after 5 minutes not recently but I would never cancel the massage because of no he. These places need to be tried and great that punters do but that's the risk off toft.
Unless there another reason like using one hand bad attitude time wasting.
Just enjoy the massage and give a review on how good or bad it is.
You can tell on the ad it was 95% going to be legit
Not your usual no sexual services I feel sorry for her wasting her time and receiving  most money back

[shed]

Totally disrespectful treatment to the masseuse. With respect you should be ashamed of yourself. We all make mistakes in life and you have just made one. Learn from it and move on

[Atrueyorkie]

Totally disrespectful treatment to the masseuse. With respect you should be ashamed of yourself. We all make mistakes in life and you have just made one. Learn from it and move on

To be fair it’s his money and he stopped after the refusals. Money changes a lot of stances, you’d be surprised how quickly an SP’s mind changes when more money is introduced. It was boundary pushing but at least other punters now know that she won’t provide HE. Plus when you’re horny you don’t think straight n silly money gets quoted

[shed]

To be fair it’s his money and he stopped after the refusals. Money changes a lot of stances, you’d be surprised how quickly an SP’s mind changes when more money is introduced. It was boundary pushing but at least other punters now know that she won’t provide HE. Plus when you’re horny you don’t think straight n silly money gets quoted

It was pretty clear from the advertisement she was legitimate. Throwing money at her to change her mind to me is not the way to go. If you think it is then fair enough. We are all different

[Atrueyorkie]

It was pretty clear from the advertisement she was legitimate. Throwing money at her to change her mind to me is not the way to go. If you think it is then fair enough. We are all different

And I’m thankful we’re all different

[shed]

And I’m thankful we’re all different

So am i

[Tantric_mat]

I have to say the OP’s whole approach on this was just wrong.
She made it clear she was legit and yet you thought flashing a few quid would change her mind. It clearly didn’t and you left getting nothing

The stupid thing is she would have probably happily wanked you off if you’d treated her with a fraction of the respect she deserved. Maybe not on this first session but on subsequent meets.

The fact she gave you a refund suggests she just wanted you out of there

[Rangers54]

I see the messages on here and the ridiculing of op for trying, sounds like he was a bit pushy, however you have to be up front sometimes and ask outright if you are just going to get the old boy emptied.

I saw ratsamee for a few years and she offered near enough everything. She was very good and handled the cock very well. She was enthusiastic and loved to do what you asked her.

She was married to an old bloke who had health issues that didn't mind her doing extras to make money. I think he died and that left her looking for someone. I saw her not long back and she was still massaging but had met someone and she said she wouldn't do extras again

I respected that and to be fair her massage wasn't fantastic enough to just have her massage me without the option. So havnt been back since

[shed]

Think you are missing the point made. I have absolutely no problem in asking if extras are available. But to me a 'no' means a 'no' . Offering extra money and threatening to leave is out of order, and a tad disrespectful . In my book anyway. But as has been said, we are all different.

[watsey]

Think you are missing the point made. I have absolutely no problem in asking if extras are available. But to me a 'no' means a 'no' . Offering extra money and threatening to leave is out of order, and a tad disrespectful . In my book anyway. But as has been said, we are all different.

Absolutely agree with you shed.
 

[houseboot]

To be fair it’s his money and he stopped after the refusals. Money changes a lot of stances, you’d be surprised how quickly an SP’s mind changes when more money is introduced. It was boundary pushing but at least other punters now know that she won’t provide HE. Plus when you’re horny you don’t think straight n silly money gets quoted

No.

Your attitude is as bad as the OP.

"If you look at her ad on gumtree, she is adamant that she does not provide extras. However, I thought I would try my luck"

"Try your luck"?  What a crass statement to make.

Yes, money might make a difference if you are negotiating extras mid-session BUT the lady made it clear in her advert, and confirmed at the start, that there were no extras.

Don't go for a Massage if you don't really want a Massage.

If all you want is a sexual service then go to someone who actually advertises it.

[Atrueyorkie]

No.

Your attitude is as bad as the OP.

"If you look at her ad on gumtree, she is adamant that she does not provide extras. However, I thought I would try my luck"

"Try your luck"?  What a crass statement to make.

Yes, money might make a difference if you are negotiating extras mid-session BUT the lady made it clear in her advert, and confirmed at the start, that there were no extras.

Don't go for a Massage if you don't really want a Massage.

If all you want is a sexual service then go to someone who actually advertises it.

“Your attitude is as bad as the OP” - your opinion is irrelevant to me.

Your also quoting the OP but replying to me and tying that to me? I presume not. Just wanted to clarify before I respond to that also.

“ Don't go for a Massage if you don't really want a Massage.” - what a load of tripe. The point of ukpunting is to promote/review massages and WG. Most (not all) ARE looking for a massage PLUS extra.

Crucifying the OP and rallying with the White armour is just overkill.

Yes he pushed but one, it’s done. Yes he should have stopped early but he’s an adult and so made his own executive decision to pursue despite what the ad said.

People like YMMV and there are Ads which state none but are the exact opposite to stop their ads getting taken down from Gumtree.

This is the OP’s first review. His first lesson. He can and will spend his money however he wants to. Judge him, me, whoever all you want.

To the OP I look forward to the next review 

[GingerNuts]

“Your attitude is as bad as the OP” - your opinion is irrelevant to me.

Your also quoting the OP but replying to me and tying that to me? I presume not. Just wanted to clarify before I respond to that also.

“ Don't go for a Massage if you don't really want a Massage.” - what a load of tripe. The point of ukpunting is to promote/review massages and WG. Most (not all) ARE looking for a massage PLUS extra.

Crucifying the OP and rallying with the White armour is just overkill.

Yes he pushed but one, it’s done. Yes he should have stopped early but he’s an adult and so made his own executive decision to pursue despite what the ad said.

People like YMMV and there are Ads which state none but are the exact opposite to stop their ads getting taken down from Gumtree.

This is the OP’s first review. His first lesson. He can and will spend his money however he wants to. Judge him, me, whoever all you want.

To the OP I look forward to the next review 

I've already pointed out the standard ""no sexual services"" used to keep Gumtree happy. This advert is clearly beyond that and as clear as you're going to get the service is legit. This was a YMMV scenario where the odds were very much against the OP. He didn't like YMMV at all, he was expecting it to go his way.

The OP went specifically to get extras. He tried throwing money at the situation, he tried a threat and sauntered off when his bluff was called. At best he behaved like an idiot.

[southern boy]

Yes the op was wrong he's been hung strung and quartered
Enough of the cheap comments now

[houseboot]

“Your attitude is as bad as the OP” - your opinion is irrelevant to me.

Your also quoting the OP but replying to me and tying that to me? I presume not. Just wanted to clarify before I respond to that also.

“ Don't go for a Massage if you don't really want a Massage.” - what a load of tripe. The point of ukpunting is to promote/review massages and WG. Most (not all) ARE looking for a massage PLUS extra.

Crucifying the OP and rallying with the White armour is just overkill.

Yes he pushed but one, it’s done. Yes he should have stopped early but he’s an adult and so made his own executive decision to pursue despite what the ad said.

People like YMMV and there are Ads which state none but are the exact opposite to stop their ads getting taken down from Gumtree.

This is the OP’s first review. His first lesson. He can and will spend his money however he wants to. Judge him, me, whoever all you want.

To the OP I look forward to the next review 

So where do you draw the line?

You appear to be suggesting that because a lady offers massage it's ok to go to her house and proposition her from the first minute.

Do you go for a haircut and offer the lady £20 to give you a HJ?

Do you go in the pub, order a pint and ask the barmaid for a HJ?

No.

And, NO, your interpretation of what UKP is all about is incorrect. It's about reviewing the services OFFERED by SP s. It's NOT about bragging about how you pushed boundaries and how uncomfortable you are prepared to make ladies in order to get your way.

WSWS & YMMV are about building a rapport with a masseuse and seeing where the session goes. If it results in she won't ... then it's about accepting the "Massage only" with grace. If she will ... then there's an opportunity to discuss what her boundaries are.

[Atrueyorkie]

So where do you draw the line?

You appear to be suggesting that because a lady offers massage it's ok to go to her house and proposition her from the first minute.

Do you go for a haircut and offer the lady £20 to give you a HJ?

Do you go in the pub, order a pint and ask the barmaid for a HJ?

No.

And, NO, your interpretation of what UKP is all about is incorrect. It's about reviewing the services OFFERED by SP s. It's NOT about bragging about how you pushed boundaries and how uncomfortable you are prepared to make ladies in order to get your way.

WSWS & YMMV are about building a rapport with a masseuse and seeing where the session goes. If it results in she won't ... then it's about accepting the "Massage only" with grace. If she will ... then there's an opportunity to discuss what her boundaries are.

Do you go for a haircut and offer the lady £20 to give you a HJ?

Do you go in the pub, order a pint and ask the barmaid for a HJ?

^ that comparison is poor and nonsense to be honest. Not relative in the slightest.

If there was underground talk or a consensus that is a thing then you could bring that point to a debate.

Massages (Not all) are known to potentially have HE. So that’s where WSWS and ymmw comes into play. Someone must first TOFTT and scout and based on that intel punters can make their own decisions.

Your second point. No you’ve clearly read wrong. Let me clarify. Money in any situation can alter outcomes. This is where you can use random examples. What I didn’t insinuate is that you can brute force your way with money. I said it can influence and potentially sway situations/scenarios.

So where do you draw the line? - Down to the individual. You can’t police people, you think the OP is the first or the last person to attempt or persuade an SP using finances?

It’s down to each persons common sense.

And, NO, your interpretation of what UKP is all about is incorrect. - What are you reading? Honestly.

“ The point of ukpunting is to promote/review massages and WG. Most (not all) ARE looking for a massage PLUS extra.”

What do you think you do when you write a review? Do you not think that is promotion?

If you’re not looking for extras then what are you doing using the massage side of ukpunting?

I’m dumbfounded where you’re grasping where I’ve written of bragging of pushing boundaries, I’m assuming you are sewing me and the OP together. Can you make a clearer distinction on that, especially as you’re quoting me.

[Atrueyorkie]

I've already pointed out the standard ""no sexual services"" used to keep Gumtree happy. This advert is clearly beyond that and as clear as you're going to get the service is legit. This was a YMMV scenario where the odds were very much against the OP. He didn't like YMMV at all, he was expecting it to go his way.

The OP went specifically to get extras. He tried throwing money at the situation, he tried a threat and sauntered off when his bluff was called. At best he behaved like an idiot.

Not everyone will behave like a saint, there are boundary pushers, twats, leeches etc. All types of punters on this site. At least he was honest in his review and cemented that she doesn’t do it regardless.

Yes, OP knew it was more than likely going to be a failed mission. I think he’s dead from consistent hail of verbal stones.

His money, his choice.

You may not like it but it won’t change if he wants to do it again. Free will and all that lovely stuff

[GingerNuts]

Not everyone will behave like a saint, there are boundary pushers, twats, leeches etc. All types of punters on this site. At least he was honest in his review and cemented that she doesn’t do it regardless.

Yes, OP knew it was more than likely going to be a failed mission. I think he’s dead from consistent hail of verbal stones.

His money, his choice.

You may not like it but it won’t change if he wants to do it again. Free will and all that lovely stuff

There are all types on this forum and the boundary pushers, twats, leeches etc. are rightly called out and sometimes banned. Occasionally you might get a like minded individual defending their actions but fortunately they seem to be in the minority.

Edit: spelling

[bonham]

Wow this is going nowhere
 The point for me is he tried but failed but terminated  the apintment after trying extra hard on a girl who on advert tried her hardest to let
customers   know there's no extras. Not carrying on with the massage is my main problem. He lost £5 she lost a apintment on the most legit advert I've seen in years

[Rangers54]

Keep calm people and stop getting your knickers in a twist about morals and compasses.   We all go into situations hoping to be wanked off and when it comes to massage we know what we think we can get. Here's some comedy we all do it

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[Rangers54]

Fuck me the last place I thought would get all woke, rainbow laces and kneeling is uk punting. Get back to how it used to be, judge the giver not the punter 🤓

[Oh la la]

I’m amazed she stayed calm and friendly and gave 35 back. Nominee for customer award of the year.

[shed]

I’m amazed she stayed calm and friendly and gave 35 back. Nominee for customer award of the year.

Where did you come from 

[Straightsix]

Where did you come from 

😄

[jodman]

I went there for a massage which was quite good, I kept my mouth shut and towards the end she asked me if I wanted any extras 🤗. I duely paid£30 for her tits out with a good feel and hand finish. The moral is to let them make the first move 😉

[GingerNuts]

I went there for a massage which was quite good, I kept my mouth shut and towards the end she asked me if I wanted any extras 🤗. I duely paid£30 for her tits out with a good feel and hand finish. The moral is to let them make the first move 😉

Why no review?

[Night king]

I went there for a massage which was quite good, I kept my mouth shut and towards the end she asked me if I wanted any extras 🤗. I duely paid£30 for her tits out with a good feel and hand finish. The moral is to let them make the first move 😉

.

Nearly 3 years on here, are you keeping your mouth shut on here  as well, 👀

[bonham]

I went there for a massage which was quite good, I kept my mouth shut and towards the end she asked me if I wanted any extras 🤗. I duely paid£30 for her tits out with a good feel and hand finish. The moral is to let them make the first move 😉

Eny chance you know the year it happened.

Sure she has reviews somewhere else They were legit aswell.
But there are special punters you must be one of them

[jodman]

Good point, I will be proactive in the future