How does an SP know you use UKP?

[NuruGuru]

My username on here and AW are completely different.

I recently tried to book an SP I had been dying to see.

She asked me to message her on AW and upon receiving the message, we could arrange a phone call to talk.

During said phone call - she said, "I'm not going to be able to see you because I know you use UKP" - sorry.

Then I was thinking, how would she know? Anyone had similar experiences?

[lewisjones23]

My username on here and AW are completely different.

I recently tried to book an SP I had been dying to see.

She asked me to message her on AW and upon receiving the message, we could arrange a phone call to talk.

During said phone call - she said, "I'm not going to be able to see you because I know you use UKP" - sorry.

Then I was thinking, how would she know? Anyone had similar experiences?

have you got any AW feedback?

she could have cross referenced feedback against reviews on here and put 2+2 together

[tynetunnel]

Perhaps you could name her?

[Waterhouse]

OP... let us know who she is so we can be just as well informed.  Thanks. 

[stevedave]

If you have a longstanding AW account and 80 odd reviews on here, it probably wouldn't take a half intelligent SP to connect the dots.

As others have said, who is it?

[the fitter]

My username on here and AW are completely different.

I recently tried to book an SP I had been dying to see.

She asked me to message her on AW and upon receiving the message, we could arrange a phone call to talk.

During said phone call - she said, "I'm not going to be able to see you because I know you use UKP" - sorry.

Then I was thinking, how would she know? Anyone had similar experiences?

I wouldn't want to see any girl, that had that problem, because I think they must have something to fear from UKP, ie. poor sevice.

[Charliehutton]

Earlier this summer a girl 'outed' me as a UKP contributor. Not that she minded, because I'd only had good things to say about her, but God knows how she'd worked it out, because I hadn't seen her for more than a year. I always think the girls we see will forget all about us as soon as we've closed the door on the way out, but some of them have much better memories than we might give them credit for.

I never, ever, give the slightest indication that I'm even aware of punting forums. I always assume they'd find it creepy, because they're only doing their job, after all, and most of us can do that without having someones opinion of our looks, personality and intimate details of our various body parts posted for all and sundry to read.

[Moby Dick]

Maybe you have seen one of her “escort friends”.
Either checking your feedback or sharing phone numbers.

[Crazyoldhaag]

My username on here and AW are completely different.

I recently tried to book an SP I had been dying to see.

She asked me to message her on AW and upon receiving the message, we could arrange a phone call to talk.

During said phone call - she said, "I'm not going to be able to see you because I know you use UKP" - sorry.

Then I was thinking, how would she know? Anyone had similar experiences?

It could be that your phone number is on ClientEye. The scenario you've described is very similar to what happened to me so it's highly likely that your AW username is now linked to your mobile number, which in turn is linked to reports that you're a UKP user on ClientEye.

You could ask a friendly SP to check it for you.

[Moby Dick]

It could be that your phone number is on ClientEye. The scenario you've described is very similar to what happened to me so it's highly likely that your AW username is now linked to your mobile number, which in turn is linked to reports that you're a UKP user on ClientEye.

You could ask a friendly SP to check it for you.

You can check yourself

External Link/Members Only

[MrMatrix]

It could be that your phone number is on ClientEye. The scenario you've described is very similar to what happened to me so it's highly likely that your AW username is now linked to your mobile number, which in turn is linked to reports that you're a UKP user on ClientEye.

You could ask a friendly SP to check it for you.

O dear thats worrying if they can identify us. I've been correctly identifired once and I had only given her positive review months later

[HailWood]

I am aware of a couple of WG WhatsApp groups where they chat about business and may also share information about punters, particularly the dodgy ones. I guess they could also share those they have identified as UKP members too.

[Hobbit]

Unfortunately, it happens but it shouldn't put you off. If the SP doesn't like UKP then she can get her business from somewhere else and fuck off.

[Crazyoldhaag]

You can check yourself

External Link/Members Only

It's much more complicated than that Mr MD. They've updated the app so it's much harder to check your number. If the app decides that you're a punter(repeatedly checking the same number, not doing any reports etc.) It won't show you anything, or just show you the number of reports but not what they say. It's more likely to show the reports if it's a clean install on a device that has never had CE installed before.
A trustworthy SP would be the easiest and quickest option IMO.

[MrMatrix]

I am aware of a couple of WG WhatsApp groups where they chat about business and may also share information about punters, particularly the dodgy ones. I guess they could also share those they have identified as UKP members too.

Such a group exists in Cardiff

[Crazyoldhaag]

I am aware of a couple of WG WhatsApp groups where they chat about business and may also share information about punters, particularly the dodgy ones. I guess they could also share those they have identified as UKP members too.

Also this ^^^

[Moby Dick]

It's much more complicated than that Mr MD. They've updated the app so it's much harder to check your number. If the app decides that you're a punter(repeatedly checking the same number, not doing any reports etc.) It won't show you anything, or just show you the number of reports but not what they say. It's more likely to show the reports if it's a clean install on a device that has never had CE installed before.
A trustworthy SP would be the easiest and quickest option IMO.

A trustworthy SP.... that made me laugh. 

I also had a bit of a laugh one afternoon when I first installed clienteye. I started putting in my various numbers, nothing, squeaky clean, didn’t think it was working, so then tried some of the punting numbers my Gangbang buddies (who shall remain nameless) have exchanged over the years. Seriously guys some of you should be ashamed of yourselves: that’s if you can trust the SPs point of view 

Edit : as I am typing this I wonder how many of you are downloading the app and checking out your numbers?

[Crazyoldhaag]

A trustworthy SP.... that made me laugh. 

I also has a bit of a laugh one afternoon when I first installed clienteye. I started putting in my various numbers, nothing, squeaky clean, didn’t think it was working, so then tried some of the punting numbers my Gangbang buddies (who shall remain nameless) have exchanged over the years. Seriously guys some of you should be ashamed of yourselves: that’s if you can trust the SPs point of view 

I know, I know they don't exist...

[NuruGuru]

It could be that your phone number is on ClientEye. The scenario you've described is very similar to what happened to me so it's highly likely that your AW username is now linked to your mobile number, which in turn is linked to reports that you're a UKP user on ClientEye.

You could ask a friendly SP to check it for you.

I've checked ClientEye myself - you don't need an SP to check it. No reports against my number because I'm a good guy 

[NuruGuru]

As for the SP it was - External Link/Members Only or External Link/Members Only

[southcoastpunter]

I wouldn't want to see any girl, that had that problem, because I think they must have something to fear from UKP, ie. poor sevice.

that of course can be the issue - but its not the only one. Some good SP's do not liked the detailed reports, even though there are positive,  that some guys go into and/or they don't like the fact that some guys score them out of 10 on various factors eg face, body, etc etc.  So its not always the case that we dodged a bullet.

I am not passing comment/judgement on guys that do this, just saying that some ladies don't like UKP because of that!

[daviemac]

I've checked ClientEye myself - you don't need an SP to check it. No reports against my number because I'm a good guy 

Are you sure you don't have to be registered as an SP to get reports now, I'm sure they changed it. I checked a known dodgy number not long ago and it showed as no reports yet I know there were 20+ listed against it.

[Kev40ish]

Are you sure you don't have to be registered as an SP to get reports now, I'm sure they changed it. I checked a known dodgy number not long ago and it showed as no reports yet I know there were 20+ listed against it.

Yes that’s correct 

[NuruGuru]

Are you sure you don't have to be registered as an SP to get reports now, I'm sure they changed it. I checked a known dodgy number not long ago and it showed as no reports yet I know there were 20+ listed against it.

TBF I'm not sure - I downloaded it the other day to check and put my punting numbers through and no reports came back. I don't see any options on it to see how the app can verify if you're an SP or not though

[Crazyoldhaag]

Are you sure you don't have to be registered as an SP to get reports now, I'm sure they changed it. I checked a known dodgy number not long ago and it showed as no reports yet I know there were 20+ listed against it.

^^^ This.

[NuruGuru]

^^^ This.

I got the point Mac made. All I'm saying is, once I downloaded the app, there's no option on it to verify yourself as an SP, or maybe there's another downloadable version out there that only SP's have some private access link to? All I'm saying, is by using the app, I'm not sure how it would verify you as an SP! Unless the app on the store is a decoy one of some kind.

[Moby Dick]

I think it has been changed.
Numbers I have checked previously which had some dodgy comments on now comeback as zero.
Maybe they get wiped after a certain timeframe, or the phone owner can contest / get removed or the app is a waste of time.

[myothernameis]

My username on here and AW are completely different.

 "I'm not going to be able to see you because I know you use UKP"

Then I was thinking, how would she know? Anyone had similar experiences?

Wonder if it down to reviews and feedback, that you might have left here and on AW.   Now I dont know if you leave feedback on AW, if so, possibilities the escort has been checking you out, and found a connection with UKp

Or another escort you have seen, have you told her your on UKp, and has she shared this info

[Crazyoldhaag]

From their Twitter page:

'NEW installations are restricted in what they can see. When we remove the restrictions you can then see reports.

We DO NOT verify a person, only that a sexworker is using THAT installation. IF you use a different device or re-install our app it will, by default be restricted.'

[Troydor69]

I can’t see why any good SP would have an issue with being reviewed on here. There are plenty of WGs on here that know what is being discussed and join in threads to add information that they may have more knowledge of. Also as a punter I wouldn’t have a big issue with girls sharing information about me. As i have nothing to hide and think I’m a pretty good customer. I’d guess that if she objects to this forum then there’s a good chance she gives bad service.

[Moby Dick]

I can’t see why any good SP would have an issue with being reviewed on here. There are plenty of WGs on here that know what is being discussed and join in threads to add information that they may have more knowledge of. Also as a punter I wouldn’t have a big issue with girls sharing information about me. As i have nothing to hide and think I’m a pretty good customer. I’d guess that if she objects to this forum then there’s a good chance she gives bad service.

Going off thread but it depends on what information is shared.

WG don’t want to be identified by friends and family, neighbours, landlords.
Also they are a target for muggers, thieves and stalkers. Posting face pics, details of their address may help other punters but it can cause a lot of problems for WG, stopping them from earning a living or worse.

Also they are women. Can you imagine how much the truth can get you in trouble when your wife, partner, GF asks “does my bum look big in this?”
Some WG take criticism better than others. It’s human nature.

Plus I have been refused MMF meets because they are worried I may review and their boyfriend might get upset reading she’s been DP’d and took a double facial. Genuinely had that conversation with a WG.
Also puts off their regular fluffy clients, so don’t want a review.

Discretion works both ways.

[daviemac]

I got the point Mac made. All I'm saying is, once I downloaded the app, there's no option on it to verify yourself as an SP, or maybe there's another downloadable version out there that only SP's have some private access link to? All I'm saying, is by using the app, I'm not sure how it would verify you as an SP! Unless the app on the store is a decoy one of some kind.

The change came about because of this thread - https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=300677.0 unless you're registered as an SP everything comes back with no reports.

Edit

To add a bit to MD's post about discretion, I've seen threads on here listing the best place to hide your punting phone from the OH.   

[Troydor69]

Going off thread but it depends on what information is shared.

WG don’t want to be identified by friends and family, neighbours, landlords.
Also they are a target for muggers, thieves and stalkers. Posting face pics, details of their address may help other punters but it can cause a lot of problems for WG, stopping them from earning a living or worse.

Also they are women. Can you imagine how much the truth can get you in trouble when your wife, partner, GF asks “does my bum look big in this?”
Some WG take criticism better than others. It’s human nature.

Plus I have been refused MMF meets because they are worried I may review and their boyfriend might get upset reading she’s been DP’d and took a double facial. Genuinely had that conversation with a WG.
Also puts off their regular fluffy clients, so don’t want a review.

Discretion works both ways.

Fair enough I see your point. Though I’d like to believe that most of us are savvy enough, and there’s sufficient control on here, to avoid sharing personal details, and while I have probably shared face pictures on here before I have only shared what was freely available on AW profiles. I’d never post a detailed address or share information that isn’t already there for all to see. I assume pictures and information listed on profiles are fair game to share.

[sunnyj]

If you're using the same punting number and AW profile for sometime, it's not that hard to link it up with your UKP account.

Some (or even most of the) SPs don't like honest reviews even if they are positive ones. At least she refused to see you during the booking process and didn't waste your travel time and money. One of the UKP memeber was refused by a SP at the door step because he reviewed her even though it was a positive one.

[Marmalade]

It shows the lengths they go to.

[The Owl]

My guess is:

Some punters tell them.

Some punters are so specific in their reviews that they out themselves.

Some punters use the same names on AW and UKP or very similar.

Some punters seek favours from their favourite SP by outing other punters that have been too trusting in their DM's.

ClientEye can be used to connect UKP accounts to AW and phone numbers.

Some escorts talk to each other and share info.

[Nagilum]

It's not difficult to connect you. If you have reviewed an SP and left a negative and did the same on her AW (for example) she would be easily connect the dots. Also, you may have reviewed immediately after the punt and she knew the girl you reviewed.

Whatever it is, she certainly is not using any other means to track you.

Who is the SP in question? She deserves to be visited and reviewed.

[Moby Dick]

Cos they insert a micro tracker into your japseye whilst putting the condom on.
This gives Central Whore Q all the intel WG need from how many wanks you have a day, to what websites you visit, and who else you see.
Thought everyone new that. 

[MrMatrix]

Cos they insert a micro tracker into your japseye whilst putting the condom on.
This gives Central Whore Q all the intel WG need from how many wanks you have a day, to what websites you visit, and who else you see.
Thought everyone new that. 

Priceless.

[mexicola]

Just change your sim. Tesco do a PAYG for £10, you'll easybget a few months from it, pay in cash, and the problem goes away.

If you have reg then just swap the sims over as needed.

[Marmalade]

When their phones are dusty they probably read this forum more than I do. Your hobbies, your jokes, your banter, who you’ve fucked, whether it’s anyone they know (more SP gossip), how many positions you did.

Many punters write reviews as if they’re re-living the experience. Then they talk too much in off-topic as if that was divorced from the person who punts. Women are talk hounds. They read gossip like their lives depend on it. They watch to see which bits of shit keep landing in the same place and guess the odds.

[Boristheboy]

There's all sorts of things that can act as identifiers in a piece of writing. Do you make a particular spelling error or use a particular phrase and then put it in both an AW feedback and your review on here? Do the last three reviews you left here match the last three girls you left feedback for on AW? Were you very specific in a review about the time of day, or what day it was, and maybe you were the only punter the girl saw? And so on.

[NuruGuru]

Update - she actually emailed me (hello Rina, it's obvious you read this thread now as she sent a random AW message to answer this particular question - which of course, I didn't ask her - when she told me on the phone she didn't want to see me because I use this forum I simply said it was fine, and wished she had a good day and left it as that)

She claims the review posted on here about her is false - therefore, she chooses not to see UKP members. It's a lame excuse, about as incoherent as "I don't see black people due to having a bad experience"

[Taggart]

Do you make a particular spelling error……

Yes, definately. 

[sensualencounter]

The change came about because of this thread - https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=300677.0 unless you're registered as an SP everything comes back with no reports.

Edit

To add a bit to MD's post about discretion, I've seen threads on here listing the best place to hide your punting phone from the OH.   

Exactly this. Great post. And I think some of us (men) don’t realise that we can be really crude sometimes and judge everyone but don’t always live by our own expectations. We say “gave her a good fucking, good girl but she had a bit of a tummy and her tits are going South, got a slightly strange smile and not keen on her voice. Didn’t tell her exactly how I like my blow jobs and she gave me good head but not quite what I wanted”.
I mean this is a very personal service and we are all different as HUMAN BEINGS yet quite a few punters are incredibly cold hearted and expect a perfect service every single time.
As for a fair few punters who immediately label all escorts as money grabbers and always out to scam and rip us off, then that doesn’t help matters either. There are cunts in all industries so labelling an entire cohort is just pure ignorance.

[daviemac]

Exactly this. Great post. And I think some of us (men) don’t realise that we can be really crude sometimes and judge everyone but don’t always live by our own expectations. We say “gave her a good fucking, good girl but she had a bit of a tummy and her tits are going South, got a slightly strange smile and not keen on her voice. Didn’t tell her exactly how I like my blow jobs and she gave me good head but not quite what I wanted”.
I mean this is a very personal service and we are all different as HUMAN BEINGS yet quite a few punters are incredibly cold hearted and expect a perfect service every single time.
As for a fair few punters who immediately label all escorts as money grabbers and always out to scam and rip us off, then that doesn’t help matters either. There are cunts in all industries so labelling an entire cohort is just pure ignorance.

I think you've quoted the wrong post, I have made no comment on the contents of reviews.   

[The sperminator]

It was better when you had to be logged in to see posts on this forum.

[stevedave]

Who is the SP in question? She deserves to be visited and reviewed.

He named her in reply 19:

External Link/Members Only External Link/Members Only

[sensualencounter]

I think you've quoted the wrong post, I have made no comment on the contents of reviews.   

Sorry! I meant to quote Moby Dick’s post above yours, I pressed the “quote” button at what I thought was the bottom of his post which is really the button for your post 

[tynetunnel]

“A rendezvous with me is special and should be cherished” says the SP in question, in her profile.

Wow, at £200 an hour it had better be special. Still I’m barred, as a UKP member. Fortunately