Wayne Couzens

[WASA38]

Pleased to see this loathsome towrag has been put away for life.

As an ex-copper he should be a prime candidate for special treatment from his fellow prisoners. Hopefully.

I found the mother's statement to the Court absolutely gut-wrenching.

[Squire Haggard]

If he appeals, I hope he gets told where to stick it, and that he hates his new home.

[NelsonH]

I just heard HM Inspector of Police admit on R4 that he was known to his colleagues as "the rapist".

And that's before he had a transfer to a different nick.

[Watts.E.Dunn]

Old bailey court report and judges statment here..

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And its bloody grim:(..

[Yankee21]

As if the Met don't have a tough enough job, this guy just set them back years.
People won't stop to think 'he was just one bad apple' rather 'the whole orchard is rotten'.

[mr.bluesky]

Pleased to see this loathsome towrag has been put away for life.

As an ex-copper he should be a prime candidate for special treatment from his fellow prisoners. Hopefully.

I found the mother's statement to the Court absolutely gut-wrenching.

Just hope when he's inside he has the shit beaten out of him but as an ex copper he will probably be kept way from the other prisoners and be released by the do Gooders after 15 years

[PunterNumber69]

Pretty shocking how he used his job as a police officer to kidnap, rape and muder someone and he did this over many hours. The poor woman had such an awful end and then he burnt and dumped her body like it was nothing.

I'm also shocked that he was a close protection officer with a firearm. How did he pass the evaluation process for that job and he was part of civil nuclear police too?

I'm happy he got the verdict he did. I really hope he never gets out.

[jonnw16]

Just hope when he's inside he has the shit beaten out of him but as an ex copper he will probably be kept way from the other prisoners and be released by the do Gooders after 15 years

He has been sentenced to a whole life order.

[Coriniumstud]

The fucker should be strung up and let her parents pull the lever

[Yankee21]

Just hope when he's inside he has the shit beaten out of him but as an ex copper he will probably be kept way from the other prisoners and be released by the do Gooders after 15 years

whole life order. 

[Brummie999]

For those demanding the death sentence for Wayne Couzens.

No - for many reasons.

Best of all being every single mouthful of food he eats from now until he dies will contain shit, glass, spit and anything else that can be found in a prison.

Until the day he dies.

[garfield]

For those demanding the death sentence for Wayne Couzens.

No - for many reasons.

Best of all being every single mouthful of food he eats from now until he dies will contain shit, glass, spit and anything else that can be found in a prison.

Until the day he dies.

What are the other reasons?

[alabama1]

For those demanding the death sentence for Wayne Couzens.

No - for many reasons.

Best of all being every single mouthful of food he eats from now until he dies will contain shit, glass, spit and anything else that can be found in a prison.

Until the day he dies.

That's never going to happen.

[mr.bluesky]

What is incredible is that he's married with children. His wife must surely have to change her name and move to a different area, how does she explain to her young children that their father was an evil murderer. 

[timsussex]

so this was his first offence ?

or has he got away with others ?

[tynetunnel]

so this was his first offence ?

or has he got away with others ?

First that he’s been nicked for, clean sheet up until now I believe. That’s part of the problem the Met face, he allegedly has some dodgy behavior before that may not have been correctly dealt with

[Chorley]

As if the Met don't have a tough enough job, this guy just set them back years.
People won't stop to think 'he was just one bad apple' rather 'the whole orchard is rotten'.

Mate of mine's in the Met and he's absolutely gutted about this. His job was hard enough before but he reckons it'll be virtually impossible now. He said there's all kinds of wronguns' in various Police forces all over the country but that it's incredibly difficult to get rid of them.  Some of the shit he's told me about is absolutely shocking.

[S.X. MacHine]

I’m old enough to remember when hanging was abolished. The abolitionists assured us there would be no increase in the murder rate because it was a crime done in the heat of passion; something like that.
The number of murders pre abolition was around 70 per annum. Now it is around 700.
Draw your own conclusions.

[Markus]

Reading the mothers statement was heart wrenching.  What a beautiful woman she really was.

I hope that delivery driver that murdered that poor teacher last week gets an sentence equalling this.

[VitIron]

I'm sure he's going to get a very rough time off the other prisoners and I certainly hope that happens.

Although I was totally against the 'men do better' response in the wake of Everard's murder, this is a horrific and tragic story.

For a serving police officer to use his position to perpetrate this crime is just appalling.

[SamOmar]

Just hope when he's inside he has the shit beaten out of him but as an ex copper he will probably be kept way from the other prisoners and be released by the do Gooders after 15 years

Being an ex-copper , a high profile media case, and a rapist he will be sent to a Vulnerable persons prisoners and live the rest of his life amongst the worst of the worst.

[GreyDave]

Mate of mine's in the Met and he's absolutely gutted about this. His job was hard enough before but he reckons it'll be virtually impossible now. He said there's all kinds of wronguns' in various Police forces all over the country but that it's incredibly difficult to get rid of them.  Some of the shit he's told me about is absolutely shocking.

A work colleague recently went though 2 1/2 years of legal case there was no case ever to answer the charge was pushed up by a bunch of civil servants who once ball was rolling never looked at the facts and kept pushing as their jobs and income could be justifide...his wife almost left him under the strain and he lost work as a result of the court procedings the people who brought case answer to no one. can he get back the 30k spent on legal fees no.... shits are in system still and protect each other they close rank  , This monster was known and yet nothing was done about him

[timsussex]

5 thoughts
1) this should not be used as a women's rights issue
2) if Cressida Dick was a man then he/she would be toast but will probably be protected as they couldn't appoint a man to replace her 
3) we need a law which not only protects whistle-blowers but one that makes it clear that if you work in public service (inc police, NHS etc) you have an obligation to report. Lets really prosecute all the police officers who knew he was dodgy - the police are required by the current law to report dodgy behaviour - but how many will be prosecuted ?
4)Similarly how many people knew what Jimmy Saville was upto but kept quiet ?
5) Couzens really is scum - what does Angela Rayner describe him as ?

[Markus]

Deffo should not be turned in to a woman’s rights issue though it will be.  As has been stated,99.9% of men aren’t wired in the same way as that sociopath.  The lengths he went to plan an attack against a random lone woman is startling.

As for the police force, Cressida Dick resigning doesn’t accomplish much other than to serve a scapegoat for the failure of one person.  He hadn’t committed any crime that would have served as notice to this act besides flashing two people at McDonald’s. Police officers in general are not viewed as the same pillars of society as they once were.  Even the innocent ones are married and having affairs with other members of the police force. 

[Blackpool Rock]

I’m old enough to remember when hanging was abolished. The abolitionists assured us there would be no increase in the murder rate because it was a crime done in the heat of passion; something like that.
The number of murders pre abolition was around 70 per annum. Now it is around 700.
Draw your own conclusions.

Your figures indicate that murder is now 10 times what it was however you need to dig a bit deeper and look at the full facts.
This article is about 10 years old but indicates it's actually about doubled as rates are now published as homicides rather than murder / manslaughter / infanticide.
Also things like Harold Shipman killing 173 people is now counted as 173 but previously would have been counted as 1 

So on the face of it homicide has about doubled rather than gone up tenfold however i'd also argue that with advances in forensic science etc we are now more accurate at identifying some homicides that would previously have been put down as accidents or suicide etc

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[Marmalade]

One plucky former police officer:

Former Met Police chief superintendent Parm Sandhu said there were things people could do if they were concerned about an arrest.

She said: 'I would say, do not get into the car unless it's a marked police vehicle, ask to see the radio, or ask the arresting officer to call their colleagues and make sure they are on duty.

'If you're really concerned dial 999. This cannot carry on forever, it's a short-term solution - we've got to get that trust and confidence back - but in the short-term they're easy steps to verify you're being stopped legitimately,' she added to GMB.

Miss Sandhu, 58, also called for Metropolitan Police Commissioner Cressida Dick to resign over the Couzens case because the force needed a leader who was not afraid of 'turning over those stones and finding those awful reptiles underneath it'.

Miss Sandhu, who successfully sued the force for discrimination last year, told BBC Radio 4's The World at One she had been 'vilified' when she raised concerns about her own treatment.

[S.X. MacHine]

Your figures indicate that murder is now 10 times what it was however you need to dig a bit deeper and look at the full facts.
This article is about 10 years old but indicates it's actually about doubled as rates are now published as homicides rather than murder / manslaughter / infanticide.
Also things like Harold Shipman killing 173 people is now counted as 173 but previously would have been counted as 1 

So on the face of it homicide has about doubled rather than gone up tenfold however i'd also argue that with advances in forensic science etc we are now more accurate at identifying some homicides that would previously have been put down as accidents or suicide etc

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Valid points which give perspective to the apparently massive increase in the murder rate.
Shipman, it should be remembered, was a uniquely prolific mass murdered without equal.
It is hard to believe that murders have not increased, given the propensity of inner city youths and of drug dealers to carry and, in many cases, use knives.
At the end of the day, it is a matter of opinion whether a crime as heinous as that of Wayne Couzens’ deserves permanent incarceration or capital punishment.

[GreyDave]

Former Met Police chief superintendent Parm Sandhu said there were things people could do if they were concerned about an arrest.
She said: 'I would say, do not get into the car unless it's a marked police vehicle, ask to see the radio, or ask the arresting officer to call their colleagues and make sure they are on duty.
'If you're really concerned dial 999. This cannot carry on forever, it's a short-term solution - we've got to get that trust and confidence back - but in the short-term they're easy steps to verify you're being stopped legitimately,' she added to GMB.
Miss Sandhu, 58, also called for Metropolitan Police Commissioner Cressida Dick to resign over the Couzens case because the force needed a leader who was not afraid of 'turning over those stones and finding those awful reptiles underneath it'.
Miss Sandhu, who successfully sued the force for discrimination last year, told BBC Radio 4's The World at One she had been 'vilified' when she raised concerns about her own treatment.
 
Ive re posted this from Marmaldes re post... after my last post I ended up thinking about women i`ve known and members of my family who were aproached by police officers when on duty trying to chat them up and the occasion an officer lied about a parking accident in a supermarket carpark to a former OH`s 70 year old mother despite her complaints it whent no where .

The "JOB" as they see it apeals to a type and this has been shown more and more with this sad event .

[Chorley]

Former Met Police chief superintendent Parm Sandhu said there were things people could do if they were concerned about an arrest.
She said: 'I would say, do not get into the car unless it's a marked police vehicle, ask to see the radio, or ask the arresting officer to call their colleagues and make sure they are on duty.
'If you're really concerned dial 999. This cannot carry on forever, it's a short-term solution - we've got to get that trust and confidence back - but in the short-term they're easy steps to verify you're being stopped legitimately,' she added to GMB.
Miss Sandhu, 58, also called for Metropolitan Police Commissioner Cressida Dick to resign over the Couzens case because the force needed a leader who was not afraid of 'turning over those stones and finding those awful reptiles underneath it'.
Miss Sandhu, who successfully sued the force for discrimination last year, told BBC Radio 4's The World at One she had been 'vilified' when she raised concerns about her own treatment.
 
Ive re posted this from Marmaldes re post... after my last post I ended up thinking about women i`ve known and members of my family who were aproached by police officers when on duty trying to chat them up and the occasion an officer lied about a parking accident in a supermarket carpark to a former OH`s 70 year old mother despite her complaints it whent no where .

The "JOB" as they see it apeals to a type and this has been shown more and more with this sad event .

I'd agree with a lot of that. I have a fair amount if contact  with the boys and girls in blue via my work and while I'm quite lucky that the ones I deal with are decent I have met some compete arseholes who spoke to my colleagues and I like we were shit.  Add into that officers who are lazy, incompetent, wilfully negligent, on a power trip or just plain dodgy - and I've met a few of those and been told some stories by officers - it's not great to be honest. 

[Blackpool Rock]

Former Met Police chief superintendent Parm Sandhu said there were things people could do if they were concerned about an arrest.
She said: 'I would say, do not get into the car unless it's a marked police vehicle, ask to see the radio, or ask the arresting officer to call their colleagues and make sure they are on duty.
'If you're really concerned dial 999. This cannot carry on forever, it's a short-term solution - we've got to get that trust and confidence back - but in the short-term they're easy steps to verify you're being stopped legitimately,' she added to GMB.
Miss Sandhu, 58, also called for Metropolitan Police Commissioner Cressida Dick to resign over the Couzens case because the force needed a leader who was not afraid of 'turning over those stones and finding those awful reptiles underneath it'.
Miss Sandhu, who successfully sued the force for discrimination last year, told BBC Radio 4's The World at One she had been 'vilified' when she raised concerns about her own treatment.
 
Ive re posted this from Marmaldes re post... after my last post I ended up thinking about women i`ve known and members of my family who were aproached by police officers when on duty trying to chat them up and the occasion an officer lied about a parking accident in a supermarket carpark to a former OH`s 70 year old mother despite her complaints it whent no where .

The "JOB" as they see it apeals to a type and this has been shown more and more with this sad event .

Someone was on TV this morning repeating this and it frankly seemed laughable to me.
Basically any innocent law abiding citizen is likely to comply with the police for fear of being seen as guilty if they make a fuss / resist etc whereas all that will happen is the scumbag criminals will make a huge fuss shouting and screaming whenever police are trying to stop or detain them.
It already happens but will be 10 times worse now

Plenty of scumbags in the police who abuse their position to personally gain, i'm aware of 1 who got the push about 5 years ago after numerous complaints from colleagues and members of the public but it took a long while to go through the process of getting rid of him.

I didn't twig at the time but I saw a WG a couple of years prior and she told me about a copper that came to see her quite regularly while on duty; dressed in uniform and even in the police car.
I actually recon it was the same bloke who got sacked

[Aldebaran]

I find the bleating excuses by the high ranking met officers, that they were unaware of this man's tendencies,  to be laughable. Some years ago I lived a couple of streets away from a serving police officer, and through a relative of my wife, I knew his partner on the beat. The partner was totally fed up with this guy, who was a serious out of controller drinker, would often leave the shift early to go drinking or turn up for patrol reeking of alcohol. He had a string of complaints against him, mostly of sexual assault by women who had been brought in for questioning. Each time superior officers brushed these complaints under the carpet and fobbed off the women or bought their silence by dropping charges.
Eventually this police officer committed suicide, and the police gave him a hero's funeral with full honours and a senior officer gave a speech saying how the stress of the job could take such a terrible toll on people. It was utter bullshit, the guy had been a corrupt officer, a total liability on the job, and a sad excuse for a man anyway. If I had heard that he had done something like this, it wouldn't have surprised me at all, or anyone else who knew him.

[george r]

lets hope he gets a kicking every day for the rest of his life !!

[sunnyj]

He told these lies when police quizzed him
He had got into trouble with a gang of Eastern Europeans who threatened him and his family. A gang demanded he deliver “another girl” after underpaying a prostitute a few weeks before. He kidnapped Ms Everard, drove out of London and handed her over to three Eastern European men in a van in a layby in Kent, still alive and uninjured.

[Blackpool Rock]

He told these lies when police quizzed him
He had got into trouble with a gang of Eastern Europeans who threatened him and his family. A gang demanded he deliver “another girl” after underpaying a prostitute a few weeks before. He kidnapped Ms Everard, drove out of London and handed her over to three Eastern European men in a van in a layby in Kent, still alive and uninjured.

Desperate shit from a guy who knew he'd been rumbled and must have known what his fate was, did he honesty think they would swallow that crap  I mean he was a copper so knew the system FFS 

I believe they are now looking into whether he may have also committed other crimes, perhaps not on this scale but i'd expect a string of other offences to now pop up

[sparkus]

Mate of mine's in the Met and he's absolutely gutted about this. His job was hard enough before but he reckons it'll be virtually impossible now. He said there's all kinds of wronguns' in various Police forces all over the country but that it's incredibly difficult to get rid of them.  Some of the shit he's told me about is absolutely shocking.

One reason is the cost and difficulty in recruiting new plod, plus the cost involved in training them up.  That tends to create an organisation-wide culture where indiscretions are taken more lightly, as it's so expensive to recruit, train and then fire people.

TBF, the police seem to regard investigating and arresting people as more trouble than it's worth these days too.

[badsin]

He told these lies when police quizzed him
He had got into trouble with a gang of Eastern Europeans who threatened him and his family. A gang demanded he deliver “another girl” after underpaying a prostitute a few weeks before. He kidnapped Ms Everard, drove out of London and handed her over to three Eastern European men in a van in a layby in Kent, still alive and uninjured.

Taken from a coppers body camera
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[sparkus]

I find the bleating excuses by the high ranking met officers, that they were unaware of this man's tendencies,  to be laughable. Some years ago I lived a couple of streets away from a serving police officer, and through a relative of my wife, I knew his partner on the beat. The partner was totally fed up with this guy, who was a serious out of controller drinker, would often leave the shift early to go drinking or turn up for patrol reeking of alcohol. He had a string of complaints against him, mostly of sexual assault by women who had been brought in for questioning. Each time superior officers brushed these complaints under the carpet and fobbed off the women or bought their silence by dropping charges.
Eventually this police officer committed suicide, and the police gave him a hero's funeral with full honours and a senior officer gave a speech saying how the stress of the job could take such a terrible toll on people. It was utter bullshit, the guy had been a corrupt officer, a total liability on the job, and a sad excuse for a man anyway. If I had heard that he had done something like this, it wouldn't have surprised me at all, or anyone else who knew him.

That's the story for Irvine Welsh's 'Filth'! Life imitates art!

[Blackpool Rock]

Taken from a coppers body camera
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Wonder if he thought that up as a backstory or just adlibbed on the spot 

[cotton]

Former Met Police chief superintendent Parm Sandhu said there were things people could do if they were concerned about an arrest.
She said: 'I would say, do not get into the car unless it's a marked police vehicle, ask to see the radio, or ask the arresting officer to call their colleagues and make sure they are on duty.
'If you're really concerned dial 999. This cannot carry on forever, it's a short-term solution - we've got to get that trust and confidence back - but in the short-term they're easy steps to verify you're being stopped legitimately,' she added to GMB.
Miss Sandhu, 58, also called for Metropolitan Police Commissioner Cressida Dick to resign over the Couzens case because the force needed a leader who was not afraid of 'turning over those stones and finding those awful reptiles underneath it'.
Miss Sandhu, who successfully sued the force for discrimination last year, told BBC Radio 4's The World at One she had been 'vilified' when she raised concerns about her own treatment.
 
Ive re posted this from Marmaldes re post... after my last post I ended up thinking about women i`ve known and members of my family who were aproached by police officers when on duty trying to chat them up and the occasion an officer lied about a parking accident in a supermarket carpark to a former OH`s 70 year old mother despite her complaints it whent no where .

The "JOB" as they see it apeals to a type and this has been shown more and more with this sad event .

Yeh just yesterday there was this story about a cop in Norwich fly kicking a 15 year old girl to the ground.
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[lamboman]

5 thoughts
1) this should not be used as a women's rights issue
2) if Cressida Dick was a man then he/she would be toast but will probably be protected as they couldn't appoint a man to replace her 

Agreed as certain types seem to want to tar all men with the same brush,I'd hazard a guess a lot more men are attacked by men than women.
Cressida Dick is an absolute disgrace and should be removed from service as should any (of the many so it seems ) police officers who were almost complicit by their inactions.

[anyfucker]

and across the channel A former policeman suspected of being the serial killer behind some of France's oldest unsolved cases has been found dead after 35 years of dodging arrest, just as police were closing in on his identity.
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[lillythesavage]

What is incredible is that he's married with children. His wife must surely have to change her name and move to a different area, how does she explain to her young children that their father was an evil murderer. 

If you read it all, he took the wife and kids to the area he dumped the body, BEFORE IT WAS FOUND, that is one truly sick fuckwit, yet our Police hand the cunt a gun. 

[lillythesavage]

One reason is the cost and difficulty in recruiting new plod, plus the cost involved in training them up.  That tends to create an organisation-wide culture where indiscretions are taken more lightly, as it's so expensive to recruit, train and then fire people.

TBF, the police seem to regard investigating and arresting people as more trouble than it's worth these days too.

What training ?  it seems it is on the job these days, the college is long gone and would imagine that goes for every force, sorry, service .

Don,t get me started on the Primark uniform.

[Chorley]

Yeh just yesterday there was this story about a cop in Norwich fly kicking a 15 year old girl to the ground.
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Watch the entire video.She absolutely deserved that as her and her chavvy little  gobshite mate were pissed up and clearly resisting arrest.
The officer who was trying to arrrest her was the one I'd be giving a bollocking to as he was absolutely fucking useless and basically let two teenage girls run rings around him. 

[finn5555]

Yeh just yesterday there was this story about a cop in Norwich fly kicking a 15 year old girl to the ground.
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He did fuck all wrong he was protecting a fellow officer who was under attack 👏

[Corus Boy]

If you read it all, he took the wife and kids to the area he dumped the body, BEFORE IT WAS FOUND, that is one truly sick fuckwit, yet our Police hand the cunt a gun. 

Giving himself an alibi for any trace evidence of his previous precence there?

[lillythesavage]

Giving himself an alibi for any trace evidence of his previous precence there?

Maybe, who knows what was going on in the head, but taking the kids ffs.

Goes to show how much we are all watched though, you would think he would be aware of CCTV given the job, but it still caught him.

[willie loman]

If you read it all, he took the wife and kids to the area he dumped the body, BEFORE IT WAS FOUND, that is one truly sick fuckwit, yet our Police hand the cunt a gun. 

why use the c word?

[garfield]

why use the c word?

How would you describe him?

[willie loman]

How would you describe him?

there are plenty of terms to express how you feel about this man, but the c word is associated with misogyny, though i am aware that it is also used by women.