Turning Point: 9/11 - how did it really change the world ?

[jaydefo24]

Basically for me personally it changed the world like this:

Made airport travel slightly more irritating…

Stirred up an on going un winnable war in the Middle East which cost us so much money that austerity is needed.

Created a refugee crisis which divides the nation and makes me very sad.

And it ruined any chance of me enjoying a visit to the former glorious nation of Afghanistan.

[PepeMAGA]

I think it achieved everything Al Queda wanted it to. The repercussions will be with us forever.

[Marmalade]

Basically for me personally it changed the world like this:

Made airport travel slightly more irritating…

Stirred up an on going un winnable war in the Middle East which cost us so much money that austerity is needed.

Created a refugee crisis which divides the nation and makes me very sad.

And it ruined any chance of me enjoying a visit to the former glorious nation of Afghanistan.

All of those. Though personally I’d have to put air travel inconvenience right at the top of the list in bold.

I would like to have visited Afghanistan as well as several other historically important countries, now ruined, including Syria and Iraq. Those places had monuments and treasures that go back almost as far or further than ancient Egypt. They could also have been a fantastic extended long-distance overland trip in earlier days. As some shopfronts say, “Once it’s gone, it’s gone!!”

[PunterNumber69]

An awful lot of people in Afghanistan, the US and many other countries were mentally and physically scarred for life and many died.

Nothing really changed in Afghanistan though or maybe it finally has..... time will tell.

[Marmalade]

What’s strange in a way, is that (except for Americans) the terrible deaths of all the people in the Twin Towers isn’t the first thing that comes to mind …

I was particularly annoyed at the apparent increase in paranoia when going through US immigration controls at the airports — but then I thought “considering their country had suffered a 9/11, it’s understandable that they’re paranoid “.

[Problem Child]

It led to the violent deaths of hundreds of thousands of normal people just trying to go about their every day lives and the radicalisation of probably many more. Just as PM said, everything they (al qaeda) wanted to happen.
I know this is ridiculously naive of me, but you would have to think that at some point humans will get to a place where the solution to people being murdered is not to go out and kill even more people. Will probably happen about the same time communism actually works on a large scale. I.e. never..

On a different note I was on a domestic us flight a few months before 11 sept 2001 and as I walked thru preflight security  the metal detector started beeping and flashing. The security guard looked at me, looked at the big queue behind me then just sighed, shrugged his shoulders and waved me on with no further checks. 
Initially I was relieved coz who wants to spend more time in security, but as the flight took off, a  little part of my brain was wondering just  how secure the flight really was?!

[PunterNumber69]

Two months after 9/11 I was on a domestic flight at night over New York with the massive searchlights shining up into the sky where the World Trade Center had once been. That was a sad moment thinking about all the people that had died.

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On 09/11 I was in one of the cities that was attacked. It was like being in a movie. Everyone was panicking and walking around in shock and crying. There were a lot of soldiers walking around with guns. It was traumatic.

[Colston36]

As I used to go to the US a great deal it made my getting in a pain, particularly because I once went to Iran to do a talk.

Every time after that for four years I was held up for about an hour while idiots asked me what I was doing in "Eyeran" even though they must have had records showing this 75 year old had been interviewed before and was harmless. I was once asked by the CIA if I'd be willing to give them info should I ever go again.

Regularly more people die in obscure parts of Africa  - schoolgirls kidnapped to be enslaved by Muslim maniacs or local warlords  - than died in the twin towers. But these tragedies are soon forgotten because they don't happen in New York. 

[jaydefo24]

It led to the violent deaths of hundreds of thousands of normal people just trying to go about their every day lives and the radicalisation of probably many more. Just as PM said, everything they (al qaeda) wanted to happen.
I know this is ridiculously naive of me, but you would have to think that at some point humans will get to a place where the solution to people being murdered is not to go out and kill even more people. Will probably happen about the same time communism actually works on a large scale. I.e. never..

On a different note I was on a domestic us flight a few months before 11 sept 2001 and as I walked thru preflight security  the metal detector started beeping and flashing. The security guard looked at me, looked at the big queue behind me then just sighed, shrugged his shoulders and waved me on with no further checks. 
Initially I was relieved coz who wants to spend more time in security, but as the flight took off, a  little part of my brain was wondering just  how secure the flight really was?!

I wonder if you’d been of Arabic colour skin and look, would you have been stopped ?

I been wondering how the hijackers were able to overpower so many people on the plane… they could only have had tiny knives… I’d like an answer to this.

[PepeMAGA]

I wonder if you’d been of Arabic colour skin and look, would you have been stopped ?

I been wondering how the hijackers were able to overpower so many people on the plane… they could only have had tiny knives… I’d like an answer to this.

The people on the plane didn't think they were at risk, thought it was a regular hijacking. United 93 being the exception because they heard about the other attacks and tried to overpower the terrorists.

[jaydefo24]

Two months after 9/11 I was on a domestic flight at night over New York with the massive searchlights shining up into the sky where the World Trade Center had once been. That was a sad moment thinking about all the people that had died.

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On 09/11 I was in one of the cities that was attacked. It was like being in a movie. Everyone was panicking and walking around in shock and crying. There were a lot of soldiers walking around with guns. It was traumatic.

Wow that’s quite a claim… which city was that ?

[NIK]

I have little interest in environmental issues - they are boring. And I am sick of hearing about sustainability and all the rest of it.
I have done my bit unconsciously. Not brought anyone else into the world and barely flown in my life for a couple of examples.

They blather on about zero emissions, carbon footprint , recycling, sustainability, renewable energy and all the rest of it.

What no one mentions, and the biggest contributor to environmental problems is quite simple - there are simply far too many fucking people, both in this country and the world.
No one mentions that because it is politically (if I may use the word) to do so. However that is the overriding problem, the earth’s population long ago exceeded the earth’s capability to sustain it.

[Blackpool Rock]

I wonder if you’d been of Arabic colour skin and look, would you have been stopped ?

I been wondering how the hijackers were able to overpower so many people on the plane… they could only have had tiny knives… I’d like an answer to this.

I believe there have been studies about how people act / react in an emergency so for instance if a plane crashed or a boat sank and there were 100 survivors washed up on an island then normally 5-10 people would step up as leaders to take control or realise that people needed help / guidance and 5-10 people lose the plot and go to pieces, the majority 80-90 people are happy to follow the orders and are glad someone else has made the decisions for them however they accept that things need to be done etc.

There's also a thing where if something happens and only a few people are present then someone is more likely to get involved to try and help when compared to a big crown being present, in that instance everyone looks around and thinks why isn't anyone doing something

Obviously the people on the 1st planes who weren't aware of what was about to happen would probably have thought they would land and be kept hostage for a while rather than being killed in a couple of hours time in which case their actions may have been different as indeed did happen on 1 of the planes where they became aware of what had happened to other flights

[jaydefo24]

I have little interest in environmental issues - they are boring. And I am sick of hearing about sustainability and all the rest of it.
I have done my bit unconsciously. Not brought anyone else into the world and barely flown in my life for a couple of examples.

They blather on about zero emissions, carbon footprint , recycling, sustainability, renewable energy and all the rest of it.

What no one mentions, and the biggest contributor to environmental problems is quite simple - there are simply far too many fucking people, both in this country and the world.
No one mentions that because it is politically (if I may use the word) to do so. However that is the overriding problem, the earth’s population long ago exceeded the earth’s capability to sustain it.

Good on you sir but I cannot see how this is related to this chat?