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[JV547845]

That's a recent change.

[Anallover6969]

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Jezz, those blogs. If ever there was a cure for insomnia.

[threechilliman]

I can agree with that when I was researching my first punt,  lots of sites did say put the money in an unsealed envelope. I mostly still do that out of habit myself.

+1. After counting it fifteen times!!

tcm

[vorian]

+1. After counting it fifteen times!!

tcm

Only fifteen,  amateur. 

[wristjob]

Cash is an awkward one. On occasion I've just tossed it on the bed and that seems a bit dismissive. Handing it to her - a bit too blunt. Leaving it on the cabinet for me. I probably did the envelope thing right at the start cos I think that got mentioned a few times on PN, but it seems a bit 1870s

[potato]

So the envelope thing, the OP did say he read prossienet so that's where that was probably picked up from.

As I am feeling benevolent today so I suppose the scenario could have been like this.....  The girl states on her profile that she is on holiday from the 10th to the 18th June so could have been  "de-mob" happy. She may have been out shopping with a prossie mate for her hols ( maybe they off together). She is running late from shopping (45mins) and doesn't want to risk losing some more holiday money but knows she is going to be off to a bad start with a new client  ( that's assuming the girl has a  conscience!). Her mate is in a good mood having spent the morning shopping so suggests that she joins them for a laugh, so she does and it saves her waiting in the car for an hour or hiding quietly in the flat somewhere..

The OP, on his first punt ever, can't believe his luck and naturally is anxious to tell the world about it, as anyone of us would if it happened to us. Because he is new, he is not believed and there we have it.

So I am going to keep an open mind on it until it is proven one way or t'other. Just because it hasn't happened to me doesn't mean it can't happen to someone else. There are things that I experience that others wouldn't believe so I shall wait and see.  It would seem a strange time to tout her when she is away for a week in a few days - unless she needs some quick holiday cash?  It's not like the bogof is a regular thing anyway, just lucky circumstances?

[Dani]

so not only did she not take the money upfront from a complete stranger (you gave it over and left) she also managed to get another girl to work for completely free?
No sorry that just doesn't happen.  If you were a good regular she might have well decided to work for half her money and got a friend to do the same but you sure as hell don't do it for a newbie to you
You would have also told her it was your first time as all new punters do so she would not have brought another girl along for fear of scaring you off.  Most new punters are very nervous and would run at the first sign of anyone else being in the apartment and no half decent prossie would throw a threesum on someone so new for fear of frightening him

I have no doubt that by now you do have texts on your spare phone. I don't believe you have a punting phone as have never punted before and I am sure by now she will agree with whatever you said as you are either the woman in question or her pimp or boyfriend or partner or someone else with a vested interest.  remember you were advised to book half an hour not an hour so you would have done that, you were told not to pay too much and the going rate in that area is £100-£120 an hour average yet this one is £150.
So you are saying you came here for advice as was nervous yet ignored every bit of it and then managed to get two girls for the price of one
You do know that now everyone is going to expect two girls for her hourly fee so you have done her no favours with this rubbish and suddenly saying she was a bit older and you wouldn't go back after being called out is not going to make a jot of difference.

[vorian]

so not only did she not take the money upfront from a complete stranger (you gave it over and left) she also managed to get another girl to work for completely free?
No sorry that just doesn't happen.  If you were a good regular she might have well decided to work for half her money and got a friend to do the same but you sure as hell don't do it for a newbie to you
You would have also told her it was your first time as all new punters do so she would not have brought another girl along for fear of scaring you off.  Most new punters are very nervous and would run at the first sign of anyone else being in the apartment and no half decent prossie would throw a threesum on someone so new for fear of frightening him

I have no doubt that by now you do have texts on your spare phone. I don't believe you have a punting phone as have never punted before and I am sure by now she will agree with whatever you said as you are either the woman in question or her pimp or boyfriend or partner or someone else with a vested interest.  remember you were advised to book half an hour not an hour so you would have done that, you were told not to pay too much and the going rate in that area is £100-£120 an hour average yet this one is £150.
So you are saying you came here for advice as was nervous yet ignored every bit of it and then managed to get two girls for the price of one
You do know that now everyone is going to expect two girls for her hourly fee so you have done her no favours with this rubbish and suddenly saying she was a bit older and you wouldn't go back after being called out is not going to make a jot of difference.

The way I see it is two possible options.

1) Everything he said is true, which most people whilst saying it is possible is incredibly unlikely, the view of both experienced punters and prossies.

Or

2) He was trying to impress people on this forum by exaggerating what the punt was like, as a newbie misjudging the mood of UKP.


So what is the more likely of the two options. 

[grandmaster-ram-rod]

it could be that the two  girls agreed with each other to share the cash to save one having to wait for the other, hoping that the two of them could get him out before the hour was up , just a thought

[vorian]

it could be that the two  girls agreed with each other to share the cash to save one having to wait for the other, hoping that the two of them could get him out before the hour was up , just a thought

Of course you are right, lots of things may have happened in a certain way for this to happen but what is the most likely.

[wristjob]

The way I see it is two possible options.

1) Everything he said is true, which most people whilst saying it is possible is incredibly unlikely, the view of both experienced punters and prossies.

Or

2) He was trying to impress people on this forum by exaggerating what the punt was like, as a newbie misjudging the mood of UKP.


So what is the more likely of the two options.

3) He's a fantacist dreamer. Nothing wrong with that, just UKP is the wrong place.

[vorian]

3) He's a fantacist dreamer. Nothing wrong with that, just UKP is the wrong place.

Quite right, that is another option.

[Bezzer]

so not only did she not take the money upfront from a complete stranger (you gave it over and left) she also managed to get another girl to work for completely free?
No sorry that just doesn't happen.  If you were a good regular she might have well decided to work for half her money and got a friend to do the same but you sure as hell don't do it for a newbie to you
You would have also told her it was your first time as all new punters do so she would not have brought another girl along for fear of scaring you off.  Most new punters are very nervous and would run at the first sign of anyone else being in the apartment and no half decent prossie would throw a threesum on someone so new for fear of frightening him

I have no doubt that by now you do have texts on your spare phone. I don't believe you have a punting phone as have never punted before and I am sure by now she will agree with whatever you said as you are either the woman in question or her pimp or boyfriend or partner or someone else with a vested interest.  remember you were advised to book half an hour not an hour so you would have done that, you were told not to pay too much and the going rate in that area is £100-£120 an hour average yet this one is £150.
So you are saying you came here for advice as was nervous yet ignored every bit of it and then managed to get two girls for the price of one
You do know that now everyone is going to expect two girls for her hourly fee so you have done her no favours with this rubbish and suddenly saying she was a bit older and you wouldn't go back after being called out is not going to make a jot of difference.

The half hour thing I have not read and yes I was shitting myself literally all morning at work. What could I have done walk out when I saw there was 2 of them?  I was looking for a good looking escort not a cheap hooker so in my mind paying a bit more made sense and on my AW hotlist £150 was about the same for all. If you read the original post I had already booked the girl before I even joined the forum. The punting phone I say is my work phone as I would not use my own and would be harder to hide a physical phone than delete a text this is again something I read from the net. I appreciate it sounds unlikely but who can I talk to about it, hey wife here's a funny story guess what I did on my lunch today!!

[wristjob]

it could be that the two  girls agreed with each other to share the cash to save one having to wait for the other, hoping that the two of them could get him out before the hour was up , just a thought

The girl has a booking for £150 but she's willing to bung her mate 50/75 so she doesn't have to wait in Starbucks. Lol!

The guy was a noob - as Dani said any girl would smell that a mile off and would avoid any kind of complication.

I once got offered a 3some by 2 girls. I'd taken my punting wallet so the 3some was about £20 more - all the money I had spare. I think they were trying to chisel something out the pimp cos he ended up half bashing the hotel door down as I was leaving so I figure they weren't seeing much of the fee anyway and £20 extra was handy. Point is they did ask. You would always ask - 3some for an extra £50? If he hasn't got it then £20 or do him a favour cos it's his first time whatever - but you would always ask.

I had him pegged as a fantacist from his first post - hence my reply. Clearly he read her blog, liked the unexpected 3some idea (which is why she wrote it) - voila.

[Bezzer]

It's a different girls blog?!!!

[wristjob]

It's a different girls blog?!!!

Yeah lol. Doesn't change a thing,

[Bezzer]

That's like saying you got the idea from a Lithuanian girl in London that has nothing to do with this one. How did that even come up? I didn't post the link

[Bezzer]

so not only did she not take the money upfront from a complete stranger (you gave it over and left) she also managed to get another girl to work for completely free?
No sorry that just doesn't happen.  If you were a good regular she might have well decided to work for half her money and got a friend to do the same but you sure as hell don't do it for a newbie to you
You would have also told her it was your first time as all new punters do so she would not have brought another girl along for fear of scaring you off.  Most new punters are very nervous and would run at the first sign of anyone else being in the apartment and no half decent prossie would throw a threesum on someone so new for fear of frightening him

I have no doubt that by now you do have texts on your spare phone. I don't believe you have a punting phone as have never punted before and I am sure by now she will agree with whatever you said as you are either the woman in question or her pimp or boyfriend or partner or someone else with a vested interest.  remember you were advised to book half an hour not an hour so you would have done that, you were told not to pay too much and the going rate in that area is £100-£120 an hour average yet this one is £150.
So you are saying you came here for advice as was nervous yet ignored every bit of it and then managed to get two girls for the price of one
You do know that now everyone is going to expect two girls for her hourly fee so you have done her no favours with this rubbish and suddenly saying she was a bit older and you wouldn't go back after being called out is not going to make a jot of difference.

The texts show up as Friday afternoon and this was posted Saturday morning so that stops that rumour

[wristjob]

Deflection. You didn't post the pics either.

[Bezzer]

Read why I didn't. I said I will take them as a photo from my phone and email them as it won't let me paste it to the forum and I can't use y shared laptop

How is that deflection?

[Bezzer]

Tbh I came on here for support and share experiences and the majority of ppl have been proper cunts. I hope she emails tcm back with the truth and you all realise you have been a load of dicks

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[SeekingtheTruth]

Tbh I came on here for support and share experiences and the majority of ppl have been proper cunts. I hope she emails tcm back with the truth and you all realise you have been a load of dicks

Welcome to the forum 

[Rochdull lad]

Tbh I came on here for support and share experiences and the majority of ppl have been proper cunts.

As we used to say in the school playground when I was a lad, "It takes one to know one."

I hope she emails tcm back with the truth

I, for one, won't be holding my breath and I don't think tcm will be, either.

and you all realise you have been a load of dicks

As we also used to say in the playground, "Ooh, I'm scared." 

[akauya]

So, coming back to this envelope business. Is that what you lot were taught at prossienet then? That's funny. I've been punting since my late teens and I'm pushing 50 now and I have never used an envelope for prossies. I always thought paying prossies in envelopes and calling it a "donation" was a courtesan bullshit? I'm surprised some of you are using envelopes.

By the way, do you use brown envelopes or whites ones, with windows, DL or A5 size or does it not matter as long it's an envelope?   

[Daffodil]

So, coming back to this envelope business. Is that what you lot were taught at prossienet then? That's funny. I've been punting since my late teens and I'm pushing 50 now and I have never used an envelope for prossies. I always thought paying prossies in envelopes and calling it a "donation" was a courtesan bullshit? I'm surprised some of you are using envelopes.

By the way, do you use brown envelopes or whites ones, with windows, DL or A5 size or does it not matter as long it's an envelope?   

No, there's a course run by saafe entitled "How to be a considerate and loving punter". We're all meant to go on it, have you not?

[wristjob]

So, coming back to this envelope business. Is that what you lot were taught at prossienet then? That's funny.

I was on PN when there were about 300 reviews there - early days. I can remember 1000 FRs being a milestone. Back then you'd read everything and at the time I think I had approx 4 punts under my belt - everybody knew more than I did so you hear this kind of BS and I guess you think it's how it's done.  Dunno if I ever did it, might have done about twice. The thing is this kind of "folklore" gets passed down from one generation of punters to the next, or probably 1 generation of WUMs to the next.

[vorian]

So, coming back to this envelope business. Is that what you lot were taught at prossienet then? That's funny. I've been punting since my late teens and I'm pushing 50 now and I have never used an envelope for prossies. I always thought paying prossies in envelopes and calling it a "donation" was a courtesan bullshit? I'm surprised some of you are using envelopes.

By the way, do you use brown envelopes or whites ones, with windows, DL or A5 size or does it not matter as long it's an envelope?   

Before I found UKP or even PN or Saafe and before my first punt,  I typed in escort etiquette into Google and this site came up.

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Now as a newbie without any other information I lapped it up,  a lot of it isn't relevant and in retrospect wrong as it is a yank site but somethings stuck and the money in an envelope was one of the bits that did. It is now more habit than anything else and part of my pre punt routine as are following the great pointers I have since learnt from UKP.

I keep a packet of plain white Tescos value envelopes in the glove compartment and put the money in one unsealed after I've been to the cash point. I never take my wallet to a punt,  so it just works for me.

[wristjob]

That is priceless.

Spelling and punctuation count.

Most escorts are very good about returning respectful emails. You should generally get a response in 48 hours or less. - wowzer, less than 48 hours???

Now comes the verification phase. I don't mean your driver's license I mean escort references.

I can't keep quoting it, it's just gold. it's like something somebody would write 150 years ago

[wristjob]

I keep a packet of plain white Tescos value envelopes in the glove compartment and put the money in one unsealed after I've been to the cash point. I never take my wallet to a punt,  so it just works for me.

Shhhhh - if mumsnet get hold of that info anybody with white envelopes will be busted.

[vorian]

That is priceless.

Spelling and punctuation count.

Most escorts are very good about returning respectful emails. You should generally get a response in 48 hours or less. - wowzer, less than 48 hours???

Now comes the verification phase. I don't mean your driver's license I mean escort references.

I can't keep quoting it, it's just gold. it's like something somebody would write 150 years ago

Indeed I thought you would like it, as I said written in the US as well, funny looking back at it now, how much my outlook has changed and even more since reading UKP as a lurker. Unfortunately many newbies tonight will probably be reading the same thing,  fine if they read UKP next, not so good if PN gets their hooks into them as they then become part of the problem and not the solution. 

[vorian]

Shhhhh - if mumsnet get hold of that info anybody with white envelopes will be busted.

Very true perhaps I should ask for that bit to be deleted just to be safe.

[akauya]

Before I found UKP or even PN or Saafe and before my first punt,  I typed in escort etiquette into Google and this site came up.

External Link/Members Only

Now as a newbie without any other information I lapped it up,  a lot of it isn't relevant and in retrospect wrong as it is a yank site but somethings stuck and the money in an envelope was one of the bits that did. It is now more habit than anything else and part of my pre punt routine as are following the great pointers I have since learnt from UKP.

I keep a packet of plain white Tescos value envelopes in the glove compartment and put the money in one unsealed after I've been to the cash point. I never take my wallet to a punt,  so it just works for me.

That's a funny site Vorian thanks. Is that what yanks have to do because prostitution is illegal over there? Poor bastards.

[JV547845]

The envelope just reassures me that I only have to count the cash five times instead of ten times.

[akauya]

No, there's a course run by saafe entitled "How to be a considerate and loving punter". We're all meant to go on it, have you not?

The envelope just reassures me that I only have to count the cash five times instead of ten times.

Aha, that proves then that I should have attended Saafe's course because twice I paid prossies too much money. Luckily they gave the extra back. Maybe I should name and shame the honest prossies
 

[threechilliman]

Reply from Abbie arrived last night, I'll quote it word for word

"hi yes this is all true sorry I didn't tell you her name jen I only introduced you as your surprise was really nice guy we had a good laugh sorry about Jens lippy hahaha red did look good on you xx"

Make of that what you will folks. I've already asked the obvious question....

tcm

[Daffodil]

The OP's story is bollocks in my opinion and so, therefore, is this prossie's reply.

Bezzer = Abbie?

[Boundless]

The envelope just reassures me that I only have to count the cash five times instead of ten times.

I count the money once and put it in my shirt pocket with another 20 or 30 in my trousers to cover "extras" if necessary. The WG will soon let you know if it's under!

[yorkshire123]

The OP's story is bollocks in my opinion and so, therefore, is this prossie's reply.

Bezzer = Abbie?

+1
or pimp

[yorkshire123]

Reply from Abbie arrived last night, I'll quote it word for word

"hi yes this is all true sorry I didn't tell you her name jen I only introduced you as your surprise was really nice guy we had a good laugh sorry about Jens lippy hahaha red did look good on you xx"

Make of that what you will folks. I've already asked the obvious question....

tcm

Forgot to say
Cheers TCM for going to the trouble of e-mailing her 

[threechilliman]

Forgot to say
Cheers TCM for going to the trouble of e-mailing her 

I've asked for the same deal 

tcm

[pleasure]

I was shitting myself literally all morning at work.

Nasty, hope you had a shower before your meet.