Should I avoid FKKs right now as an east asian?

[gdumb]

Title is pretty much self explanatory. I would like to experience an FKK in the next few months since most of the EU is opening to Americans but am unsure if I should go as an east asian. I am fully vaxxed. I haven't been in a public setting like an FKK before but never had problems in the past. I've been considering Zurich or Frankfurt. Thanks for the help

[Eeyore]

Apparently although nearly all the Clubs are up & running some are currently doing updates/running repairs and most importantly many girls have yet to return creating a higher ratio of men to women than usual.

So IMO for what it’s worth (especially if it’s your first visit!) I would wait a bit and once the ladies increase then consider going.

[Kingkong86]

I would suggest wait a little longer and try Artemis in Berlin for a first time or paradise in Stuttgart. Again depending on if they are open and how many girls are working at any given time.

[gdumb]

Where can you see info on the number of girls working? I don't see any info about girls on the Artemis or Paradise sites

[Fkk]

Where can you see info on the number of girls working? I don't see any info about girls on the Artemis or Paradise sites

Lustscout

[trickyd2]

FKK Globe in Zurich is open and fully staffed. You will have no problem there as an Asian. Costly, more expensive then the German FKKs, but well worth it.
They publish an accurate daily plan for the girls, though the photos are heavily photoshopped. External Link/Members Only

[pusfunman]

From the information I’ve seen Sharks in Darmstadt (near Frankfurt) is ramping up in terms of number of girls. Beware, I have heard the girls are taking advantage of demand and their prices are higher right now.

Considering that things could change as we head to winter if you have the cash now is the time to visit.

[londonhas]

you should be alright, especially if you have an american accent. i recommend to go to FKK as much as you can, i'm sure it's more fun than in US

[Eeyore]

If you have a wallet full of Euro’s it won’t matter a jot where you’re from.

Politeness, a smiley face & respectfulness will be more important to them than where you come from irrespective of the current Covid situation………even if a few of them are sharks !

[pusfunman]

If you have a wallet full of Euro’s it won’t matter a jot where you’re from.

Agreed. I've seen people from all walks of life at Sharks and Artemis. old and young. East Asian, Indian, Arab, White, Black (and so forth). People in wheelchairs. They will only discriminate if you cannot afford the entry.

The one thing I would say to watch is that there is generally a cohort of young guys from China/Japan/Korea/other East Asian country in visiting the larger clubs. Supposedly these groups of guys sometimes do not know the pricing structure or how things go down. They could also just be loaded with money and desperate to spend some "quality time" with a pretty blonde european lady . Some of the girls know this and basically try to rinse as much money as possible out of them. The girls that target Asian guys might assume you are similarly clueless just based just on appearance. Make sure you know the deal before going.

[gdumb]

I ended up going to FKK Mainhattan on Sunday around 9. Sorry if FRs should be a separate post but here goes.

I chose Mainhattan over Oase/Sharks after reading ISG and didn't really know what to expect. Worse case I'd chalk it up to an experience but it turned out decently. There were about 12-15 girls and around 10 guys when I got there. A few girls were sitting at the bar looking bored and others playing slot machine. It was uncomfortable at first having to shower and not having clothes. Walked around outside area and spa then into the bar. Got approached by Jenny, thin Rom girl with small but nice looking tits. Seemed friendly and looked good so I went with her. Probably should’ve took my time and surveyed the room first. Also didn’t negotiate before going into the room. Ended up overpaying at 200 eur for bbbj/cim and a 2nd round which didn't pan out on my end. To her credit she tried a couple times for the 2nd round and was willing to try again before I stopped her. If she had really wanted to fleece me I figure it would've stopped after the first try.

Since I spent too much with her I only had 50 left for another girl. Thought bringing 400 eur would be sufficient but after about 100 eur for taxi and entry I only had 100 left and had to take a taxi back.  Lineup was pretty good overall, mostly 6-8s depending on your type. After going with Jenny her two friends tried to get me, probably because she told them I overpaid but I didn't bite. Waited too long and girls started leaving by 1, I left after that. 300 eur for one session is pretty steep but I can see the appeal now

[Malvolio]

Most important thing when visiting the FKK is to agree what you're going to do in the room and how much it will cost before you go into the room.

Don't forget to haggle, and even if it is your first ever visit, don't let on.

[gdumb]

Since I haven't gone pre covid what is usually standard? From what I've read it's 50 euro for 30 min bj/sex. Not sure if it's ow or owo though. Anal and cim are extra as expected

[londonhas]

Since I haven't gone pre covid what is usually standard? From what I've read it's 50 euro for 30 min bj/sex. Not sure if it's ow or owo though. Anal and cim are extra as expected

I haven't been in a few years, probably around 5-6 years ago and then few times before 2010. I always paid 50 all in aside from anal which I don't really need within a 30min session.

Usually I go in a room and only go for the ones with good attitude. Lucked out a few times with some amazing girls but I think I treat them with respect and I'm well groomed. It goes a long way. Once I got a prolonged cock worshipping owo tit fuck cim cob in the kino area and a few guys enjoyed the show aside from the one of the big screen. That was also 50euro well spent. The girl was on the chubby side but cute face good attitude and huge chebs which she knew how to use.  Good times.

I think owo is more rare nowadays though, I think there was a law change few years ago and ow is the standard. I could be wrong though as last few times were laufhaus rather than ffk

[adindas]

Since I haven't gone pre covid what is usually standard? From what I've read it's 50 euro for 30 min bj/sex. Not sure if it's ow or owo though. Anal and cim are extra as expected

In general, the standard price is OW. Anal and cim have always been extra. I hope you are aware that OWO is illegal in Germany, but once you are in the room it is difficult to prove it and I do not think the authority will even care about it. There has not been any news that someone has convicted for having unprotective oral sex with prostitutes in Germany since the law was introduced a few years ago.

But for the girls they are using that opportunity to nail you for this extra service. Negotiating something when you are already in the hook, is not the best negotitation method. If you talk to the local people visiting FKK they hardly ever pay any extra.

If you see what the people in FKKs will normally do is to avoid taking extra services, or at least you negotiate first what you want before going to the room. Once you pay the extras, especially if the  extra price does not make sense (e.g. higher than the standard service) the sharks in FKKs will see you as an easy target for upselling. Cha Ching - a walking ATM.

I fail to understand about a person only takes EUR 400 to FKK where EUR 2x100 will be spent for taxi alone and he needs a lot of extras.

Imagine if you just pay EUR50 for each session and you plan well, you will enjoy your time with a dozen of girls during your visit in FKKs in Germany.

[Fkk]

In general, the standard price is OW. Anal and cim have always been extra. I hope you are aware that OWO is illegal in Germany, but once you are in the room it is difficult to prove it and I do not think the authority will even care about it. There has not been any news that someone has convicted for having unprotective oral sex with prostitutes in Germany since the law was introduced a few years ago.

But for the girls they are using that opportunity to nail you for this extra service. Negotiating something when you are already in the hook, is not the best negotitation method. If you talk to the local people visiting FKK they hardly ever pay any extra.

If you see what the people in FKKs will normally do is to avoid taking extra services, or at least you negotiate first what you want before going to the room. Once you pay the extras, especially if the  extra price does not make sense (e.g. higher than the standard service) the sharks in FKKs will see you as an easy target for upselling. Cha Ching - a walking ATM.

I fail to understand about a person only takes EUR 400 to FKK where EUR 2x100 will be spent for taxi alone and he needs a lot of extras.

Imagine if you just pay EUR50 for each session and you plan well, you will enjoy your time with a dozen of girls during your visit in FKKs in Germany.

400 euros is not enough

The value is incredible in FKK compared to the UK. I think the standard is great and there is something for everyone.

FKK girls love the Asian guys.

[Eeyore]

I chose Mainhattan over Oase/Sharks after reading ISG and didn't really know what to expect. Worse case I'd chalk it up to an experience but it turned out decently.
Ended up overpaying at 200 eur for bbbj/cim

I was wondering if you have ever been to Oase & Sharks & if so how does it compare to Mainhatten ?

The reason for asking is that I’ve never visited Mainhatten because a German friend of mine who is an expert in the FKK world says it’s a poor Club & not worth visiting ?

I must confess I’ve not been to a Club since the reopening however judging from prices pre Covid you were certainly over charged, too much for my liking.

I gather from ISG and German forums that many girls are taking advantage of the situation with sex starved customers vastly outnumbering the girls & charging much higher rates than before.

Most people think things will eventually level off and the pricing structure will return to the previous levels.
I sincerely hope this occurs soon as I will be making my first visit since the reopening in less than four weeks time, probably attending Sharks.

[gdumb]

I was wondering if you have ever been to Oase & Sharks & if so how does it compare to Mainhatten ?

The reason for asking is that I’ve never visited Mainhatten because a German friend of mine who is an expert in the FKK world says it’s a poor Club & not worth visiting ?

I must confess I’ve not been to a Club since the reopening however judging from prices pre Covid you were certainly over charged, too much for my liking.

I gather from ISG and German forums that many girls are taking advantage of the situation with sex starved customers vastly outnumbering the girls & charging much higher rates than before.

Most people think things will eventually level off and the pricing structure will return to the previous levels.
I sincerely hope this occurs soon as I will be making my first visit since the reopening in less than four weeks time, probably attending Sharks.

I have not been to Oase/Sharks. I went to Mainhattan after reading the same info on ISG/lustscout as you. Another member recommended mainhattan in https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=312049.0 so I decided to go since there wasn't much info about it.

[londonhas]

i haven't heard anyone mention Palace in Frankfurt yet, is it still going?