Punting is hard work at the minute

[chadpitt]

Poor selection, hit and miss service, hard work to book and high costs are killing it off. 

How are you guys finding it over the last year?  Anyone else close to retiring or just me?

The scene has been dying since Brexit back in 2016. Covid made things worse and now the high cost of living means nobody wants to tour anymore.

So yes I am slowing down if not quitting for a while.

[Ali Katt]

The scene has been dying since Brexit back in 2016. Covid made things worse and now the high cost of living means nobody wants to tour anymore.

So yes I am slowing down if not quitting for a while.

I think the touring thing could be true. I call bullshit on the Brexit thing most of the polish, good quality roms and especially Lithuanian, Latvian, Russian etc fucked off way before 2016, probably more like 2012 for the latter.

No doubt covid made things worse and allowed girls to refuse services they previously allowed rather than take a break like kissing and even owo. Personally I don't really punt at the moment because I might need a float.

[Atrueyorkie]

It’s been utter garbage, only 1 or two punts this year have been good ones.

I just realised coming out of a punt I got B&S when it clicked that the voice on the phone was different in person. Literally a light bulb went off in my head like wtf. Didn’t until post punt as it was a dark room.

The scene has dire for me lately

[sparkus]

It’s been utter garbage, only 1 or two punts this year have been good ones.

I just realised coming out of a punt I got B&S when it clicked that the voice on the phone was different in person. Literally a light bulb went off in my head like wtf. Didn’t until post punt as it was a dark room.

The scene has dire for me lately

I had some quality punts post-lockdown but recently have just stuck to regs and even then it's been a ballache trying to find the time/chance.

Living in London there's always new prospects on AW and occasionally VS but the FBSM scene is pretty dire now. People reporting paying 100 all in for a clothed wank.

[lillythesavage]

I think the touring thing could be true. I call bullshit on the Brexit thing most of the polish, good quality roms and especially Lithuanian, Latvian, Russian etc fucked off way before 2016, probably more like 2012 for the latter.

No doubt covid made things worse and allowed girls to refuse services they previously allowed rather than take a break like kissing and even owo. Personally I don't really punt at the moment because I might need a float.

Absolutely true, you only have to look at the amount of Romanian and Brazilian profiles to realize that, The Polish economy took off too, Brits were going out there for work for more money than they could earn here, heavy plant/machinery sales to Poland increased.

Lots of other factors, like ever increasing rents but the pandemic is by far the biggest factor on services and also those that went home and found it was not so bad and not worth the hassle of returning.
There are also those that came on a mission, to earn enough to build or buy a home at home, that was the end game and the pandemic put paid to it for some, I doubt it would be so easy now.

[sparkus]

Absolutely true, you only have to look at the amount of Romanian and Brazilian profiles to realize that, The Polish economy took off too, Brits were going out there for work for more money than they could earn here, heavy plant/machinery sales to Poland increased.

Lots of other factors, like ever increasing rents but the pandemic is by far the biggest factor on services and also those that went home and found it was not so bad and not worth the hassle of returning.
There are also those that came on a mission, to earn enough to build or buy a home at home, that was the end game and the pandemic put paid to it for some, I doubt it would be so easy now.

It's all interconnected but at the same time there's other factors such as the lack of affordable premises now plus the UK isn't attractive as it was (Tina in Golders Green can't get anyone to come from China now).

Looking back it's evident we were spoilt during years of plenty, I mean I could just rock up to my local sauna and pick out a decent buxom Italian (or Latvian) whenever I felt like it.

For those with deeper pockets none of this will be an issue though.

[chadpitt]

I think the touring thing could be true. I call bullshit on the Brexit thing most of the polish, good quality roms and especially Lithuanian, Latvian, Russian etc fucked off way before 2016, probably more like 2012 for the latter.

No Polish and Czech girls like diamondserena started leaving after 2016 because the exchange rate falls caused by Brexit. Vivastreet was full of girls at £80 an hour.

Even Roms are coming here less because they have to get visas now. It's just easier for them to work in Germany closer to home.

[lillythesavage]

It's all interconnected but at the same time there's other factors such as the lack of affordable premises now plus the UK isn't attractive as it was (Tina in Golders Green can't get anyone to come from China now).

Looking back it's evident we were spoilt during years of plenty, I mean I could just rock up to my local sauna and pick out a decent buxom Italian (or Latvian) whenever I felt like it.

For those with deeper pockets none of this will be an issue though.

I mentioned the rent issue , there are loads more that make finding a place hassle, nosy peeps, camera door bells watching coming and going, stalker types, thieves and chancers, those spending hours trying to link pics with videos or social media which goes on here, most of all rental agencies taking over and wanting all sorts before letting.

The Air BNB route is a gamble, lots seem to take the hotel route, the days of cheap easy to rent property and being allowed to operate hassle free are long gone.

[petermisc]

No Polish and Czech girls like diamondserena started leaving after 2016 because the exchange rate falls caused by Brexit. Vivastreet was full of girls at £80 an hour.

Yeh, I remember several WGs complaining that the dramatic fall in the pound after the referendum meant they were effectively earning much less.  Making Germany, Holland, etc more attractive places to work.

Other things haven't helped.  Such as the government making landlords and rental agencies responsible for checking residency status of anyone who wants to rent a flat, making it difficult for someone wanting to work independently to find a place to stay. Landlords generally pulling out of the rental market, due to various other government disincentives.  The ever tightening money laundering regs, making it difficult to open a bank account and pay in large sums of cash.  And so on.

The UK was once the destination of choice for any WG who spoke even the most basic English.  Now there are so many obstacles put in their path, it is hardly surprising the supply has dwindled.  There still seems to be as many Poles working the Amsterdam agencies as ever there was, for example.

[pantywetter]

It's all interconnected but at the same time there's other factors such as the lack of affordable premises now plus the UK isn't attractive as it was (Tina in Golders Green can't get anyone to come from China now).

Looking back it's evident we were spoilt during years of plenty, I mean I could just rock up to my local sauna and pick out a decent buxom Italian (or Latvian) whenever I felt like it.

For those with deeper pockets none of this will be an issue though.

I reluctantly stretched and stretched my budget and it didn’t seem to help.  For a few years Diva has kept me going even at £300+, but when the looks and service aren’t there it’s just not worth the money.

Really think we lived through the golden age of punting.  EE explosion and the rise and fall of Adultwork were great times

[pantywetter]

Yeh, I remember several WGs complaining that the dramatic fall in the pound after the referendum meant they were effectively earning much less.  Making Germany, Holland, etc more attractive places to work.

Is anywhere on the continent better?  Maybe need to get back into visiting Spain or Germany?

[alabama1]

Is anywhere on the continent better?  Maybe need to get back into visiting Spain or Germany?

Yes, Costa Del Sol 

[lillythesavage]

Is anywhere on the continent better?  Maybe need to get back into visiting Spain or Germany?

Athens. Food is good too.

[simon07]

Pretty shite just now.

Significant numbers of Roms offering poor service (you might find the odd gem).

Baltic or Russian woman lie about their pics and age (at least 10 years can be added).

No fun with massage parlours, hard to find value and service.

Yep i could retire too.

[Ali Katt]

No Polish and Czech girls like diamondserena started leaving after 2016 because the exchange rate falls caused by Brexit. Vivastreet was full of girls at £80 an hour.

Even Roms are coming here less because they have to get visas now. It's just easier for them to work in Germany closer to home.

Definitely true there less variety. I think the Brexit thing isn't as bigger factor as is made out. In 2010 I could look at a rota for a parlour and have the choice of Thai, Polish, other EE such as Lithuanian, Romanian English girls and probably another eastern bloc. Now it is mainly English girls, not saying they aren't good. The glory days were well over 5 years ago and I think everyone knows it.

The good thing is less Brazilian coming over on fake Portuguese passports, often controlled by criminal gangs. Not saying they are trafficked or that's always the case.

[Trex]

Great timing for me then just broke up with my ex and I haven’t been on this site for a few months and sounds like it’s still shit.

Been on AW now and there are girls that I use to see, they have raise prices increased about £20 even one of them raised it up to £50 now 

Crazy times, but I’ll try to see someone soon.

[Mr Doodle]

Have moved again (further SW), have dusted down and re-charged the punting phone and pre-pay sim and now in a position to resume the oldest hobby on earth. But, knock me down with a feather duster, the pickings are slim. And what is on offer is at prices that far outweigh the increased cost of living in terms of VFM. There seems to be a disporoportionate number of Roms, as well..

As I have no "regs" here (i.e. those I have visited before), I will be focusing on London now that I am in there a couple of days a week. There seems to be some quality about, still.. just need to spend time unearthiung new stuff. Otherwise, it will be back to the two positives I have already reviewed (quite some time ago.. so climbing the walls, I am leaving scratch marks!).

And, about 2 weeks after returning, I will pen a review..

[estats]

Anyone else think we are entering a bad period for punting?

Prices are well up
Selection is well down
Less foreign hookers passing through
Competition from OnlyFans
It’s even trickier than usual to book the well reviewed girls
Travel is difficult both in and out of the UK to fish in another pond
AW quality is awful
Harder to make excuses to wife/gf to go for a punt
Many of us will have been hit in the pocket over Covid

I thought there would be lots of girls trying this career post Covid but it’s gone the other way

Tempted to take a few months off personally

Much of this is true, but I firmly believe this market (like many, many others) is in a complete bubble and many don't recognise it. The UK economy is heading for a big period of turbulence, possibly even systemic in nature, e.g. currency revaluation. The impending economic trouble (assuming central banks don't fudge the issue - I think they want to but are running out of easy options), will correct many of the supply and demand problems in many markets over the medium to long term.

That is, be patient and a recession will correct many of the problems now witnessed.

[chadpitt]

Much of this is true, but I firmly believe this market (like many, many others) is in a complete bubble and many don't recognise it. The UK economy is heading for a big period of turbulence, possibly even systemic in nature, e.g. currency revaluation. The impending economic trouble (assuming central banks don't fudge the issue - I think they want to but are running out of easy options), will correct many of the supply and demand problems in many markets over the medium to long term.

That is, be patient and a recession will correct many of the problems now witnessed.

Your right about a recession coming but hookers are dumb. You'd think the cost of living crisis now would drive up supply but it hasn't. I've only seen hooker prices go up; not down.

It's the foreign supply that matters and because of Brexit, that's completely screwed.

[petermisc]

Your right about a recession coming but hookers are dumb. You'd think the cost of living crisis now would drive up supply but it hasn't. I've only seen hooker prices go up; not down.

It's the foreign supply that matters and because of Brexit, that's completely screwed.

Full effects of the cost of living crisis have yet to kick in.  Give it another month or two before girls are desperate enough for extra income to start prossying.

Almost everywhere I go there are notices on shops and restaurants announcing that they are recruiting.  Many restaurants still offering restricted service, some not even reopened at all, as they can't get the staff.  So plenty of job opportunities about, just not the people to fill them.  As you say, it's the supply of foreign workers that has dried up.  And that has affected the supply of prossies too.  With a limited supply, prices inevitably go up.  And there are sufficient punters out there (and on here) prepared to pay these ridiculous prices, that they are likely to stay high.

I would sincerely like it to be a bubble, and that prices will drop back to what they were a couple of years back, but I honestly can't see it happening.  Not while there are still sufficient punters prepared to pay these prices.

[Ali Katt]

I think a lot of it is down to competition the EE girls about 20 or so years ago really did drive prices down, the £50 for an hour punt was uncommon when I started on the job around 07/08/09 ish, but usually one in every area. Not to mention parlours, even back then some had silly extras like £5 for a massage, but now the door tax on some places is £10-£20 before you've even picked a hottie.

[chadpitt]

And there are sufficient punters out there (and on here) prepared to pay these ridiculous prices, that they are likely to stay high.

I would sincerely like it to be a bubble, and that prices will drop back to what they were a couple of years back, but I honestly can't see it happening.  Not while there are still sufficient punters prepared to pay these prices.

Agreed the punters who pay stupid prices ruin it for everyone and they should be called out on it.

[Ali Katt]

Agreed the punters who pay stupid prices ruin it for everyone and they should be called out on it.

A lot of punters doing 30 minutes instead.

[southcoastpunter]

Agreed the punters who pay stupid prices ruin it for everyone and they should be called out on it.

and who decides what "stupid prices" are? and for which area (as there are fairly significant geographical variations)

maybe guys who pay these "stupid prices" (and i am not one of them) might say to you guys that seem to want sex for little more than a pizza and a couple of beers have stupid expectations.

Sorry it gets my goat when guys make "stupid" remarks like that (ie punters who pay stupid prices). maybe if you can't afford it - give it up. If you can afford it but choose not to, then that is your choice - i won't call you stupid for determining your budget and paying what YOU think is worth it and not paying for something you don't think is worth it. its personal circumstances and personal choice. 

[chadpitt]

and who decides what "stupid prices" are? and for which area (as there are fairly significant geographical variations)

maybe guys who pay these "stupid prices" (and i am not one of them) might say to you guys that seem to want sex for little more than a pizza and a couple of beers have stupid expectations.

Sorry it gets my goat when guys make "stupid" remarks like that (ie punters who pay stupid prices). maybe if you can't afford it - give it up. If you can afford it but choose not to, then that is your choice - i won't call you stupid for determining your budget and paying what YOU think is worth it and not paying for something you don't think is worth it. its personal circumstances and personal choice.

Enough of the hyperbole. Nobody expects sex for the price of the price of a "pizza and a couple of beers".

There's a difference between being able to afford something and VFM. I'm sure people can pay £100 for half an hour but for spend the same amount for several hours of entertainment. With services as crap as they are right now, many definetely see hookers as overpriced as opposed to inaffordable.

I don't know how anyone can punter can champion higher prices. It sure as hell hasn't led to better services.

[estats]

Full effects of the cost of living crisis have yet to kick in.  Give it another month or two before girls are desperate enough for extra income to start prossying.

Almost everywhere I go there are notices on shops and restaurants announcing that they are recruiting.  Many restaurants still offering restricted service, some not even reopened at all, as they can't get the staff.  So plenty of job opportunities about, just not the people to fill them.  As you say, it's the supply of foreign workers that has dried up.  And that has affected the supply of prossies too.  With a limited supply, prices inevitably go up.  And there are sufficient punters out there (and on here) prepared to pay these ridiculous prices, that they are likely to stay high.

I would sincerely like it to be a bubble, and that prices will drop back to what they were a couple of years back, but I honestly can't see it happening.  Not while there are still sufficient punters prepared to pay these prices.

I won't go into loads of detail, but I'm now more firmly of the view than ever before our economy is in far more trouble than 99% of people believe, they see prices going-up, but don't connect that to the bigger picture. The bigger the bubble is pumped, the bigger the crash will be. By the end of the year I do think the UK economy and many people will be in serious trouble financial.

Like covid crept up on us and changed everyone's lives, The impending financial situation will do the same IMO.

[Whiteknight]

You aren't bloody wrong...I've been trying to make a booking for the past 2 weeks whenever I'm free. Just trying to get a WG to reply to my messages is hard work.

Most are probably on holiday 

[Whiteknight]

and who decides what "stupid prices" are? and for which area (as there are fairly significant geographical variations)

maybe guys who pay these "stupid prices" (and i am not one of them) might say to you guys that seem to want sex for little more than a pizza and a couple of beers have stupid expectations.

Sorry it gets my goat when guys make "stupid" remarks like that (ie punters who pay stupid prices). maybe if you can't afford it - give it up. If you can afford it but choose not to, then that is your choice - i won't call you stupid for determining your budget and paying what YOU think is worth it and not paying for something you don't think is worth it. its personal circumstances and personal choice.

Well said  how I value a £150 is different to yours.

It is around 180 to 250 for a reliable and decent escorts in Brighton and Hove, and the good ones are limited, hardly see any new SP joining.

[Mr Sinister]

I won't go into loads of detail, but I'm now more firmly of the view than ever before our economy is in far more trouble than 99% of people believe, they see prices going-up, but don't connect that to the bigger picture. The bigger the bubble is pumped, the bigger the crash will be. By the end of the year I do think the UK economy and many people will be in serious trouble financial.

Like covid crept up on us and changed everyone's lives, The impending financial situation will do the same IMO.

I saw a video on the economy, we are in recession level right now more deep than previously no one is taking notice as the media aren't reporting it. By the end of the year the economy will probably tank big time. Try best to ensure you are financially secure starting from now if you are not already.

I see WG are really trying to maximize their profits recently to have had a couple WG I'd seen previously return with higher rates. Now charging 70/80 for 30mins where they charged 50/60 previously but I know in doing so they'd hope punters will just go for a full hour instead.

[PumpDump]

A lot of punters doing 30 minutes instead.

Nowadays when meeting a new girl I book 15 mins and only if it is going well I offer pay the difference to upgrade to 30 mins or 1 hour.

[estats]

It's amazing people still don't get the problems central banks have created by essentially giving away free money for a decade.

There are whole industries, like crypto, that exist on free money and will collapse very quickly as this era ends and that will cause systemic shocks. If you purchased bitcoin less than 6 months ago, you've lost half your money now. If you thought Netflix was the future 6 months ago, you would have lost 72% of your money to date.

Central banks say they will tackle 10% inflation by raising interest rates to 2.5%, yet we won't get a recession and all will be well with the world by 2024. Just think of the nonsense in this statement. That is a magic trick Harry Houdini couldn't pull off.

Three options from here,

1 - Central banks get serious on tackling inflation and continue monetary tightening, interest rates beyond 5%, etc in the next 12 months, this will surely trigger an asset price collapse, place big interest charges on the government debt and trigger a big recession as no one can afford to service the debt at this level because we gave away free money for 10 years.

2 - As rates hit just 1% or over, central banks (or markets figure out for them), that monetary tightening, even at this level, is triggering a recession they didn't think would happen, they freak and pivot policy and start loosing monetary policy, only this will spiral inflation ever further. We end up with the nightmare of stagflation.

3 - Central banks have to come up with some convoluted plan to kick these systemic problems down the road. They'll introduce a CBDC with currency revaluation, or some other complex way to make everyone poorer while they are not looking. I actually think this is where we end up.

The point I'm making is no good options from here. Whether an escort charges an extra £20 an hour will become the least of everyones concerns within a year. The financial reality will resolve most of the issues raised for us.

[petermisc]

Well said  how I value a £150 is different to yours.
It is around 180 to 250 for a reliable and decent escorts in Brighton and Hove, and the good ones are limited, hardly see any new SP joining.

The starting rate for even fairly mediocre agency girls in London is now £300 an hour, but it is not uncommon for her rate to rapidly rise to £400 even £600 an hour if she gets a rush of bookings.  And there is no shortage of punters prepared to pay those prices, as evidenced by the "agency girls I would like to see over £400" thread on here.

This is inevitably going to ripple out.  I have already seen a number of girls move to London, although one complained about the cost and difficulty of getting accomodation, and has since moved back.

[petermisc]

I saw a video on the economy, we are in recession level right now more deep than previously no one is taking notice as the media aren't reporting it. By the end of the year the economy will probably tank big time. Try best to ensure you are financially secure starting from now if you are not already.

We officially went into recession soon after we went into COVID lockdown, and it was fairly well reported at the time.  It was also recognised that as it was caused by the lockdown, it wasn't a "normal" recession.  The global economy has been far from normal ever since, due to the after-effects of lockdowns, the continuing disruption in China, and now the Russian war.

Doom-mongers have been predicting a crisis for as long as I can recall.  But there will only be a crisis when sufficient people lose confidence in one or more of the major economies.  In usual times, the Bank of England printing money as it did during the pandemic would have caused such a loss of confidence in the pound, but it didn't as every other major bank was doing the same with their currencies.

High oil and gas prices are going to have a massive effect, as they will inevitably feed through into the prices of everyday goods, and food in particular.  Whether that will be a big enough shock to cause such a loss in confidence is anyone's guess.
I suspect it depends on whether it is a continuous trickle of rises (the boiling frog effect), or a sudden tsunami of price rises.
And how long before fuel prices drop back to more normal levels.  After all, the last thing the fuel-exporting countries want is for a crash in the value of the dollar (except perhaps for the Russians).

[PumpDump]

Great posts petermisc and estats. Pretty much equates with what I've been hearing in some of the podcasts I listen to. You will never hear this stuff on mainstream news.

[shagmore]

Whats on offer is shite to say the least, prices they charge are going up, and most are not exactly stunning to say the least.
I think that with the way inflation is going, the country going into recession and the war causing the fuel prices to rocket will start to take a big effect in 6months time. At present, people are not really feeling it, as they still a few pennies in the bank, but when that dries up hopefully more women will come onto the scene and not charge silly prices.
Would be nice to have a batch of new talent .
I haven't punted this year, have had quite a few massages but thats my choice.
Once the interest rate goes up, and people start to feel the pinch on the mortgage this will effect punters - reduce demand - and also could increase supply as more women go into this line of work, or return to it.
Lets hope that we see a fresh band of beauties start appearing with realistic prices.

[chadpitt]

Whats on offer is shite to say the least, prices they charge are going up, and most are not exactly stunning to say the least.
I think that with the way inflation is going, the country going into recession and the war causing the fuel prices to rocket will start to take a big effect in 6months time. At present, people are not really feeling it, as they still a few pennies in the bank, but when that dries up hopefully more women will come onto the scene and not charge silly prices.
Would be nice to have a batch of new talent .
I haven't punted this year, have had quite a few massages but thats my choice.
Once the interest rate goes up, and people start to feel the pinch on the mortgage this will effect punters - reduce demand - and also could increase supply as more women go into this line of work, or return to it.
Lets hope that we see a fresh band of beauties start appearing with realistic prices.

Come on. "Fresh beauties" the only ones left are British girls who aren't exactly desired across the rest of Europe. All the recession will do is make the old and ugly British girls try pull fast ones.

[Alexmck]

Whats on offer is shite to say the least, prices they charge are going up, and most are not exactly stunning to say the least.
I think that with the way inflation is going, the country going into recession and the war causing the fuel prices to rocket will start to take a big effect in 6months time. At present, people are not really feeling it, as they still a few pennies in the bank, but when that dries up hopefully more women will come onto the scene and not charge silly prices.
Would be nice to have a batch of new talent .
I haven't punted this year, have had quite a few massages but thats my choice.
Once the interest rate goes up, and people start to feel the pinch on the mortgage this will effect punters - reduce demand - and also could increase supply as more women go into this line of work, or return to it.
Lets hope that we see a fresh band of beauties start appearing with realistic prices.

Fingers crossed

[Payyourwaymate]

If the economy goes to shit, punting is the last thing we would need to worry about you know lol.

[estats]

If the economy goes to shit, punting is the last thing we would need to worry about you know lol.

Exactly. People wake-up, there is no "if" in the economy going to shit now. It is the timing and these things tend to happen much quicker than you think once they gain their own momentum.

Mortgage interest rates have already doubled in six months and are likely to keep doubling. Energy bills will have more than doubled in a year, real wage growth (although not at a level to cover rising costs) show it is at a level to entrench higher inflation for multiple years. A lot of equity and asset markets are in correction or bear territory over the last 6 months, housing will be next.

A lot of these day traders and crypto clowns who haven't covered their positions are being margin called or wiped out. They thought they had the funds to retire, well it is back to work for them.

It's just weather central banks come up with another fudge, and for how long, or where they place the pain.

By end of year we'll see those who rely on discretionary spending for their income having to implement price reductions (in real terms), that or face going out of business.

[londonroad]

I am old enough to remember previous recessions. In my experience, in Central London many SPs did not reduce prices but at times of inflation they did instead hold prices. They also became more flexible with when they would take bookings. I wonder if in the coming recession the same thing will happen?

[Ali Katt]

I am old enough to remember previous recessions. In my experience, in Central London many SPs did not reduce prices but at times of inflation they did instead hold prices. They also became more flexible with when they would take bookings. I wonder if in the coming recession the same thing will happen?

During the last recession the influx of EE women drove the prices down with British escorts trying to undercut them.

[chadpitt]

Exactly. People wake-up, there is no "if" in the economy going to shit now. It is the timing and these things tend to happen much quicker than you think once they gain their own momentum.

Mortgage interest rates have already doubled in six months and are likely to keep doubling. Energy bills will have more than doubled in a year, real wage growth (although not at a level to cover rising costs) show it is at a level to entrench higher inflation for multiple years. A lot of equity and asset markets are in correction or bear territory over the last 6 months, housing will be next.

A lot of these day traders and crypto clowns who haven't covered their positions are being margin called or wiped out. They thought they had the funds to retire, well it is back to work for them.

It's just weather central banks come up with another fudge, and for how long, or where they place the pain.

By end of year we'll see those who rely on discretionary spending for their income having to implement price reductions (in real terms), that or face going out of business.

LOL "crypto clowns". Both accurate and funny

[datwabbit]

If the economy goes to shit, punting is the last thing we would need to worry about you know lol.

Lol
When your choice isn't heat or eat but fuck or not, I'd say you're still ok.

[vindici]

LOL "crypto clowns". Both accurate and funny

This is gonna age real well 😎

[estats]

This is gonna age real well 😎

They are utterly a tool of speculation, and as we approach a value era, most will go to zero. These crypto clowns thought it would hedge during inflation and become digital gold, most have lost 50% of their value in six months. If anyone thinks any major central bank will sit back and watch control of monetary policy go up in smoke thanks to crypto, they are crazy. But there are a lot of crazy (or dumb) people out there who followed the pump and dump merchants to push up the market cap of all these ponzi cryptos, only the average Jo didn't realise a lot of the pump merchants have long since dumped, cashed-out and left the ordinary Jo to be taken out behind the bike shed and see their investments get shot.

As for bitcoin, I really don't give a crap. I've been short on it 6 months as what is coming is obvious and I've said so for months now, so my position is closed and i've done what I needed to. I hear at £20k a lot of big whales would face a margin call, so if that confidence level gets hit, it blows up even quicker than we've seen. If the flagship bitcoin goes, we see the rest of this zombie market implode.

I'm just saying don't be one of these idiots who attempts to catch a falling knife. Sure we will see a dead cat bounce here or there, but do your research, understand the economy and markets your in and everyone protect yourself.

We will get digital currency, but it will be a CBDC.

Anyway, I'm going off topic here. But my main point, anything that is growth stock or needs discretionary spend for income, like this escorting market, go short on. Most people are already 6 months late to the party, but there is still a few months before we hit rock bottom and most people get what is going on.

[JamesKW]

Your right about a recession coming but hookers are dumb. You'd think the cost of living crisis now would drive up supply but it hasn't. I've only seen hooker prices go up; not down.

It's the foreign supply that matters and because of Brexit, that's completely screwed.

I dont think there is a lack of foreign supply just quality or the amount that even want to be prossies.In my area the number of Eastern Europeans seems to be growing,not to mention Africans,Phillipineos and South Americans.

[JamesKW]

Exactly. People wake-up, there is no "if" in the economy going to shit now. It is the timing and these things tend to happen much quicker than you think once they gain their own momentum.

If you are in a job,and most remain in jobs I actually prefer the recession years to the prosperous ones,everything is alot cheaper.Sometimes even if you lose your job it can push you to look for a better one or you get a big redundancy payment.