Punting is hard work at the minute

[Payyourwaymate]

COVID has not finished yet globally. Furlough is still running till september ending. Onlyfans will only get harder to make money as time goes on I reckon. I agree though, you may just have to wait it out till next year or so. The one key issue in this is will the elevated prices be here to stay when some form on nomality returns and if so, what will be the choice punters will have to make to adapt the % increase as now recently it is higher than salary increments and inflation by a large margin.

[Landscape]

Agree that recent times have made it difficult to punt. In the last few months, trying to book anything on a Saturday has been a general waste of time, with trying five or six numbers to make an appointment and nothing. Mondays are slightly better, but it takes around that many attempts before I can find one that is willing to take a booking.

With Only Fans, furlough and cam work around as alternatives, it's not surprising there's little interest in doing one to one bookings, though it is only a matter of time before the on-line market becomes saturated; how long remains to be said but do think we're looking at towards the end of the year at the earliest. When some sort of normalcy is resumed, it will be at a higher hourly rate due to little competition from elsewhere, especially from abroad.

[tidytuz]

I've noticed a few WGs dropping prices....15 mins: 50 to 40 or 60 to 50....30 mins: 70 to 60. 

Maybe Onlyfans could also mean less punters.

[Payyourwaymate]

I've noticed a few WGs dropping prices....15 mins: 50 to 40 or 60 to 50....30 mins: 70 to 60. 

In London? That's brothel level prices...indie WGs? Where?

[tidytuz]

Michelle in Balham dropped her 15min by a tenner

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Ola dropped her 30min from 70 to 60

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Over last two days I've had two 15min 40quid punts, Ola & a Rom, no probs with comms or booking (will review later).

[poundstock]

I’ve been out of action since the virus outbreak and I am aiming to return soon. I select from a small group of escorts and apart from Demi Devine I think they are all still working so I’m not too bothered about the apparent declining state of play.

[Payyourwaymate]

Michelle in Balham dropped her 15min by a tenner

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Ola dropped her 30min from 70 to 60

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Over last two days I've had two 15min 40quid punts, Ola & a Rom, no probs with comms or booking (will review later).

I see, thanks for the intel.

[Laudanum]

Michelle in Balham dropped her 15min by a tenner

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Ola dropped her 30min from 70 to 60

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Over last two days I've had two 15min 40quid punts, Ola & a Rom, no probs with comms or booking (will review later).

Wow, those are cheap.

[puntingpumping1920]

Punting while black makes punting harder  😤

[Mr Sinister]

It's very hard work at the moment, as said selection is far less meaning a girl who does pop up on the radar is usually on the other side of the city, deep up in Croydon, Harrow etc...which makes me not arsed having a punt. There's not much that entices me.

Prices going up girls charging £50-60 for 15 minutes, £70-80 for 30 minutes, add in travel expenses and time it's not worth it especially if the punt ends up being underwhelming.

Summer is in, Euros about to start, time to get back into civvies.

[vindici]

COVID has not finished yet globally. Furlough is still running till september ending. Onlyfans will only get harder to make money as time goes on I reckon. I agree though, you may just have to wait it out till next year or so. The one key issue in this is will the elevated prices be here to stay when some form on nomality returns and if so, what will be the choice punters will have to make to adapt the % increase as now recently it is higher than salary increments and inflation by a large margin.

I'm not based in the UK, so I punt in the UK in periodic "tours" as I call them, as and when I visit friends and family. This means I build up a fairly large kitty and tend to have lot's of punts during a short period of time. With the price hike after COVID, I've decided to change my strategy whilst the UK market stabilises.

After British SPs, I rate Polish and Hungarian SPs the highest.

The pricing in the UK has risen to the level, that for me personally, rather than punt in the UK, I'm better off redirecting my kitty to punting trips abroad instead, namely Eastern Europe.

I'm completed 2 punting trips since last summer, both to eastern europe and the cost was considerably less than what I'd be paying for if I carried on "touring" in the UK.

When comparing the costs, I get free accommodation in the UK, free use of a car, free food and drink, I don't count the cost of flights and taxis, since I would be paying that no matter what.

Cost of a week in 2 destinations, including flights, lodging, food & drink, taxis, bribes and punts has so far been around £1200, for that I've 10-12 punts in that week. All those punts have been mostly outcall, with a minimum of an hour booking, often longer, with all services included (i.e. OWO, CIM, multiple positions etc etc)

If the pricing in the UK stays at the level it is, I'm gonna stop seeing new UK WGs and stick to the "creme de la creme" of those I've previously visited.

I have a UK visit planned this summer, however as things are, I'm going to save most of "the kitty" and spend it on another visit to the continent.

I highly recommend those of you with the ability to travel discreetly, to consider a punting trip rather than continue to begrudgingly pay over the odds for what is often a rather unsatisfying experience.

If you need to punt frequently this solution won't help you much, but still worth considering if you want to save up and treat yourself down the line.

[Whiteknight]

It may well be even worse now than before covid, but i think the availablity of ladies i like has been very poor (at least in my area) for 2 or 3 years - which is why some 2 or 2 and a half years ago i went mainly massage plus extras and then about 18 months ago went onto SA.

I have always thought (and said) that those guys who said the market will be full of hard up women after covid and prices will fall were mistaken or at least overly optimistic! I think we need to get used to "difficult trading times" as personally, i don't see it changing significantly any time soon.

Yes pretty much what I think too 

[Payyourwaymate]

I'm not based in the UK, so I punt in the UK in periodic "tours" as I call them, as and when I visit friends and family. This means I build up a fairly large kitty and tend to have lot's of punts during a short period of time. With the price hike after COVID, I've decided to change my strategy whilst the UK market stabilises.

After British SPs, I rate Polish and Hungarian SPs the highest.

The pricing in the UK has risen to the level, that for me personally, rather than punt in the UK, I'm better off redirecting my kitty to punting trips abroad instead, namely Eastern Europe.

I'm completed 2 punting trips since last summer, both to eastern europe and the cost was considerably less than what I'd be paying for if I carried on "touring" in the UK.

When comparing the costs, I get free accommodation in the UK, free use of a car, free food and drink, I don't count the cost of flights and taxis, since I would be paying that no matter what.

Cost of a week in 2 destinations, including flights, lodging, food & drink, taxis, bribes and punts has so far been around £1200, for that I've 10-12 punts in that week. All those punts have been mostly outcall, with a minimum of an hour booking, often longer, with all services included (i.e. OWO, CIM, multiple positions etc etc)

If the pricing in the UK stays at the level it is, I'm gonna stop seeing new UK WGs and stick to the "creme de la creme" of those I've previously visited.

I have a UK visit planned this summer, however as things are, I'm going to save most of "the kitty" and spend it on another visit to the continent.

I highly recommend those of you with the ability to travel discreetly, to consider a punting trip rather than continue to begrudgingly pay over the odds for what is often a rather unsatisfying experience.

If you need to punt frequently this solution won't help you much, but still worth considering if you want to save up and treat yourself down the line.

Thanks for the intel  .

[TP84]

Had this twice over the last fortnight, two free days, sent out a good few messages for meets and tried calling a few but either nothing back or not working. Maybe need to plan further ahead than 24-48 hours

I have also had this, no replies to emails, texts or booking requests (most emails and booking requests go read and ignored) even when attempting to plan in advance. 

[signy]

(Now fully jabbed) I have booked two punts over the past week, both for well in advance. In both cases the bookings were harder work than I would normally expect, and although both SPs were very nice about it, apologetic and as accommodating as possible, it was clear they they were both having to work around issues that didn't present a challenge 18 months ago. Everything in life just seems to be hard work at the moment, or at least harder than it used to be.

[whitestar99999]

Yep i agree

Had a couple "saved" for when things open up again - only for them to then remove profiles.

Argh!

Liv in hope things will settle back down again soon

[Payyourwaymate]

Yep i agree

Had a couple "saved" for when things open up again - only for them to then remove profiles.

Argh!

Liv in hope things will settle back down again soon

You've been a member since 2018. I suppose you have been waiting for things to settle down for almost 3 years right....The pandemic fully kicked through in 2020 right? Yet no review in site to help your fellow brethens? Not even one....

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[Home Alone]

I had a Victor Meldrew moment earlier today!

In the next few months, I'm going to be moving to live in an adjacent county. It's not like I'm going to the back of beyond; just swapping a small northern town for a medium-sized northern town 20 miles or so further away from Manchester.

So, in an idle moment while I was having some lunch, I did a quick survey on AW of who - stated ages 40 - 60; no bareback/unprotected sex; no BDSM - might become my local 'go-to girl' in that town.

And AW told me there was no-one there who fitted my requirements! As I don't drive, that's going to distinctly limit my options.

So, like Victor, I don't believe it!!

[B4bcock]

I had a Victor Meldrew moment earlier today!

In the next few months, I'm going to be moving to live in an adjacent county. It's not like I'm going to the back of beyond; just swapping a small northern town for a medium-sized northern town 20 miles or so further away from Manchester.

So, in an idle moment while I was having some lunch, I did a quick survey on AW of who - stated ages 40 - 60; no bareback/unprotected sex; no BDSM - might become my local 'go-to girl' in that town.

And AW told me there was no-one there who fitted my requirements! As I don't drive, that's going to distinctly limit my options.

So, like Victor, I don't believe it!!

Location, location, location, HA!    Search AW first until you find a cluster of suitable milf's, THEN look for a house nearby.   

[Home Alone]

Location, location, location, HA!    Search AW first until you find a cluster of suitable milf's, THEN look for a house nearby.   

Before anyone suggests it to Channel 4, NO, I am NOT prepared to be on a Location, Location, Location programme based on the above - brilliant - idea!

[Maak]

Today on a Saturday, alot of green lights are on.

[formulajuan1]

Our Hobby has always held many pitfalls for the unwary, but in my experience since Covid the game has become much harder for all the reasons detailed above. Since
my second jab I've had two Successful Punts and one Let-down at the last minute. All took quite a lot of work to arrange and had to be booked 2 - 4 weeks in advance. The attitude of some SPs has also taken a turn for the worse. Perhaps I'm just Old Fashioned, but £200 is a lot of money to me, so if someone was going to pay me £200 for 90 mins of easy work I would be giving them my undivided attention. Some SPs are in such demand that their poor Service and Customer Skills are completely Take It or Leave It!

[Vice Admiral]

Today on a Saturday, alot of green lights are on.

At the moment (5.20 pm, Saturday) there are eighty green-lighters on my patch (Hampshire).

The vast majority are, as usual, Romanians – whose profile-minders / pimps are a great believer in green lights (when red lights are not available).

British green-lighters are thin on the ground, and are mostly "seasoned pros" who have been on the Adult Work block for years.

[teddyking]

Just went on a TOFTT and worst £60 ever spend fml

[B4bcock]

Before anyone suggests it to Channel 4, NO, I am NOT prepared to be on a Location, Location, Location programme based on the above - brilliant - idea!

Escape To The Cuntry ??   

[lillythesavage]

Just went on a TOFTT and worst £60 ever spend fml

I went one better than a Toftt this afternoon lol, all I knew was she was black, 28 and had 40ee tits, enough to go on lol, no picture swap and no idea what she was willing to do.

Went a lot better than yours  did , money well spent.

[chadpitt]

Escape To The Cuntry ??   

You win the internet

[teddyking]

I went one better than a Toftt this afternoon lol, all I knew was she was black, 28 and had 40ee tits, enough to go on lol, no picture swap and no idea what she was willing to do.

Went a lot better than yours  did , money well spent.

Sometimes you gotta take a gamble , glad yours paid off. Maybe since I’ve been punting a new lass almost every week, my expectations are much higher but this TOFTT was abysmal.

[lillythesavage]

Sometimes you gotta take a gamble , glad yours paid off. Maybe since I’ve been punting a new lass almost every week, my expectations are much higher but this TOFTT was abysmal.

By new lass do you mean new to you or new to Aw or viva etc, that is a gamble too. My gambles always pay off, just enjoy the person you are with, a 21 year old from Tinder last night and this one from CL today, total of just over 3 hours fun for 50 quid. Never a bad thing when 20 somethings are happy to meet a 60 year old blind.

I have to question the high expectations from a 60 quid punt though, that is P&D Rom territory on AW these days.

[Plan R]

I made a similar schoolboy error with a Ring doorbell! 

I suggest refusing those things with;
"No dear, we don't want one of them as all they do is tell every random delivery driver
(and by extension, all his dodgy mates), 'this house will be empty for the next 5hrs, please feel free to break in.'
No, just let them just put packages over the fence or behind the bins like they have for the last 20yrs
without advertising that there's no-one home"

 

[Fisherman]

Better response to my rib this week

6 decent bids from the 30 or so that actually bid

10 were 30-50% more than I put on the RB and it was pitched at the 150 p/h mark

10 were from the usual time wasters or had bad reviews

4 just not my type

Let’s see if I can actually get it organised with one of the 6

[Home Alone]

Escape To The Cuntry ??   

      

[blend57]

Also bear in mind that:
 

• The pandemic would have forced some WGs to try their hand at OnlyFans and other virtual services. Some might have been able to keep their regular clients going with those services.
  
• If a WG had been paying tax as a self employed business woman she might have been able to claim COVID 19 grants. I am not sure what the T&Cs are with that but it would have helped keep the wolf from the door.
  

Both of which would have reduced the need to see X punters a month, allowing the WG to increase prices to see if she can earn the same amount by seeing fewer clients.

All that said, the COVID grants (if a WG is eligible) will stop. Once things have gotten back to normal, competition should normalise things and prices might settle down.

[petermisc]

Also bear in mind that:
 

• The pandemic would have forced some WGs to try their hand at OnlyFans and other virtual services. Some might have been able to keep their regular clients going with those services.
  
• If a WG had been paying tax as a self employed business woman she might have been able to claim COVID 19 grants. I am not sure what the T&Cs are with that but it would have helped keep the wolf from the door.
  

I think that you have a somewhat unrealistic view of the level of the grants.  The 3 month's grant that a WG I know received didn't even cover one month's rent for her working premises.

[blend57]

I think that you have a somewhat unrealistic view of the level of the grants.  The 3 month's grant that a WG I know received didn't even cover one month's rent for her working premises.

I never applied for one. I just looked it up in the gods website and it mentioned a self employed person could get up to £7.5K for a 3 month period. I know it is based on trading profits but the maximum is £7.5K

[lillythesavage]

I think that you have a somewhat unrealistic view of the level of the grants.  The 3 month's grant that a WG I know received didn't even cover one month's rent for her working premises.

We all know that the self employed and their accountants under declare if possible, nature of the game, but this pandemic could not be predicted and getting back a lump of what you put in was not expected.

[Taggart]

Here are a few I found with high prices.

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All zero feedback. Er, no thanks. One no longer on AW.

Every search I do has to exclude Roms/Brazilians, and those that do appear in the search are 95% no hopers. Touring girls tend to be fat, flabby and 40+ and the choice is just dire, ruined by fly by nights and scammers. Just don’t have time to feck around on SB sites.

Furthermore WFH for me and Mrs has really curtailed activities as can’t get smart or risk a shower/ shave without a ‘where you off to’ Q. Wouldn’t say money is burning a hole, but I’m in a more fortunate position and can’t find a decent fuck! 🙈

[JPin]

Got to say, for a newbie, I don't know how things once were but I'm finding it bloody difficult to work through my HL because there seems to be so much choice and it keeps getting longer and longer (despite regular culls). I guess that's partly the naive excitement of being involved in something new and perhaps also having a bit of an open mind in terms of what I want to try.

Reading some of the nostalgic comments in other threads definitely makes me realise I missed out on a golden age in years gone by though.

Ah well, back to working through the HL!

[alabama1]

Got to say, for a newbie, I don't know how things once were but I'm finding it bloody difficult to work through my HL because there seems to be so much choice and it keeps getting longer and longer (despite regular culls). I guess that's partly the naive excitement of being involved in something new and perhaps also having a bit of an open mind in terms of what I want to try.

Reading some of the nostalgic comments in other threads definitely makes me realise I missed out on a golden age in years gone by though.

Ah well, back to working through the HL!

Us old farts always look back through rose tinted glasses. There are still some great girls out there, enjoy ! 

[Payyourwaymate]

Got to say, for a newbie, I don't know how things once were but I'm finding it bloody difficult to work through my HL because there seems to be so much choice and it keeps getting longer and longer (despite regular culls). I guess that's partly the naive excitement of being involved in something new and perhaps also having a bit of an open mind in terms of what I want to try.

Reading some of the nostalgic comments in other threads definitely makes me realise I missed out on a golden age in years gone by though.

Ah well, back to working through the HL!

It was better a couple of years ago in terms of pricing and choice. Now choice is limited, price is up with extras and still the same shoddy service, unreliability and exclusive policies. If this keeps up I think the average earning punter will get shut out of having access to quality punts with attractive SPs, they will be left just having to take what they can get and do mental gymnastics to convince themeselves that everything is still ok 😫😫😫😞😞😟.

[pantywetter]

Got to say, for a newbie, I don't know how things once were but I'm finding it bloody difficult to work through my HL because there seems to be so much choice and it keeps getting longer and longer (despite regular culls). I guess that's partly the naive excitement of being involved in something new and perhaps also having a bit of an open mind in terms of what I want to try.

Reading some of the nostalgic comments in other threads definitely makes me realise I missed out on a golden age in years gone by though.

Ah well, back to working through the HL!

7 or 8 years ago I had 10+ super reliable cracking regulars within a 10 minute walk from my office.  Not sure if anyone remembers the Adventurous Alex, Dee, Hazel Kitty, Independent Lena phase.  They were all £120, super reliable and great service.  I was filling my boots 3 or 4 times per week for a while!

Very different today!

[Discoballs]

You're not wrong . Smaller choice , lower value , bigger cost . Then when you find a decent one they are scammer using someones Instagram picture . Aw verification  procedures must have a back door as some of them are just taking the piss.  Average looking gnds wanting 300 an hour and grotesque 'glamour' fake looking birds charging 500 an hour . Even rub and tugs are over £70 now for just a wank ,all the latin hoare houses have shut ... I live in hope for some quality wgs but they're just not out there. A very sad state of affairs . R.i.p punting .

[alabama1]

We have the money, therefore the power...

[lillythesavage]

Us old farts always look back through rose tinted glasses. There are still some great girls out there, enjoy ! 

I just did a search of the A13 route into town, a total of just over 100 profiles, Barking and Dagenham, Newham, Tower hamlets, only 2 have decent reviews here that are under 150, a teen who is not a teen, and a black bbw and I have a couple of regulars better looking and smaller. Nothing appealing at all on Aw and by the time you rule out the fakes, the Roms and South Americans and the negative reviewed, it probably leaves around 10 at any price.

Not rose tinted glasses, the East End was a great punting ground for many many years, now it is a minefield. Sure it is the same elsewhere in the country.

[lillythesavage]

We have the money, therefore the power...

No point in money if there is nowhere good to spend it and power to do what?

[Payyourwaymate]

We have the money, therefore the power...

Under normal circumstances where hormones are not raging that idea would work. Who knows how many punters who are not aware of this site rush in first, pay and regret later or even worse, punters that are aware but still pay and regret later against their better judgement. It's like a reverse whack-a-mole and we are the moles running into the WG hammers. WGs just need to sit tight and wait for a punter to run into them to pay and regret as long as the choice is low. It's not a situation where you can just turn off raging hard ons, if so I'm sure many men would fully be prepared to play the waiting game until prices drop.

[Discoballs]

Under normal circumstances where hormones are not raging that idea would work. Who knows how many punters who are not aware of this site rush in first, pay and regret later or even worse, punters that are aware but still pay and regret later against their better judgement. It's like a reverse whack-a-mole and we are the moles running into the WG hammers. WGs just need to sit tight and wait for a punter to run into them to pay and regret as long as the choice is low. It's not a situation where you can just turn off raging hard ons, if so I'm sure many men would fully be prepared to play the waiting game until prices drop.

If it wasnt for this site,  I wouldve been very unhappy with some of my choices,  this is a first port of call in any decision.

[JPin]

Got to say, for a newbie, I don't know how things once were but I'm finding it bloody difficult to work through my HL because there seems to be so much choice and it keeps getting longer and longer (despite regular culls). I guess that's partly the naive excitement of being involved in something new and perhaps also having a bit of an open mind in terms of what I want to try.

Reading some of the nostalgic comments in other threads definitely makes me realise I missed out on a golden age in years gone by though.

Ah well, back to working through the HL!

Have to add that if it wasn't for UKP I'm sure I would have had a slew of shit experiences. So thanks to everyone who contributes here!

[lillythesavage]

Under normal circumstances where hormones are not raging that idea would work. Who knows how many punters who are not aware of this site rush in first, pay and regret later or even worse, punters that are aware but still pay and regret later against their better judgement. It's like a reverse whack-a-mole and we are the moles running into the WG hammers. WGs just need to sit tight and wait for a punter to run into them to pay and regret as long as the choice is low. It's not a situation where you can just turn off raging hard ons, if so I'm sure many men would fully be prepared to play the waiting game until prices drop.

I do not think it would work under any circumstances, we have no power to dictate, I read a review yesterday where the punter met 2 more in the premises waiting, we are only a very small percentage of punters and this site is no secret from wg,s anymore.

There in lies the problem, punters reviewing after paying, 4, 5, 6 even 1k an hour are doing punting in general no favors at all, others read what others are getting, not asking, but getting and creep up prices to the maximum level they can get away with and still get punters even if it is less punters for the same income.

I have a feeling this site is educating and helping to increase prices, how often do you see a good review followed by a price increase a few posts down? Too many punters mentioning the site, getting mentioned on other sites, not allowed etc, popping up in google searches, allowing it to be read by non members, though that may have changed, common knowledge now and working against punters, those posting mega bucks reviews are not helping at all.

[JH89]

Looks like I picked the worst time to join this hobby. Lockdown has helped me build a little stash for some extra activities but here in Bolton, it’s very hard to find a decent SP that isn’t either a Rom/ barebacker or a cam girl.

There are a few but for the prices it’s silly money. Plus I only get short periods of freedom to book a SP making it double worse as no one available.

It’s worse on other sites, use to get the odd meet on fab but that’s so much worse now, doesn’t help the clubs are shut either. Looks like it’s porn hub and wanking for the next 6 months in the hope things improve.