Cost of punting increasing... justified or not?

[MysteryManNo.7]

I appreciate that I haven't posted a review yet so I don't really have the right to make requests, but I'd love to see those recommendations if you're willing to share

Of course, just sent you a DM with three girls I have been recommended by a trusted member and all three have been positively reviewed on this site.

[Neo]

Just my two cents, hope you don't mind... 
I work in London but live in Manchester.

So, I charge £250 per hour- this is what I need to spend before I see anyone to be presentable, give you a great time ect

£800 rent per week in zone 1
£200 train fare per month
£400 advertising per month
£400-£600 per lingerie set (Bordelle/ Birdette ect)
£250 per month make up, nails, waxing, hair
£70 Wine, champagne, beer for clients
Plus £600 a month for my bills in Manchester

I know its slightly different for me because I travel down from the North but escorting for *escorts themselves* is expensive. I could spend a lot less but you would be in a crumbier apartment, I'd be in bog standard lingerie with crappy Aliexpress sex toys and the service would be meh.

Plus- CORONOAVIRUS  As an escort I am taking a HUGE risk by working. I know that you are too, but you don't *have* to see escorts, many escorts have had to keep working despite the risks because a year without an income is impossible. I'm sorry to butt in, I just wanted to give you my viewpoint.

Happy punting 

Diana Bentham xx

Thank you for this - my biggest surprise is the £400 Advertisement Fee... Is that how much it costs to advertise on AW?

[lamboman]

Just my two cents, hope you don't mind... 
I work in London but live in Manchester.

So, I charge £250 per hour- this is what I need to spend before I see anyone to be presentable, give you a great time ect

£800 rent per week in zone 1
£200 train fare per month
£400 advertising per month
£400-£600 per lingerie set (Bordelle/ Birdette ect)
£250 per month make up, nails, waxing, hair
£70 Wine, champagne, beer for clients
Plus £600 a month for my bills in Manchester

I know its slightly different for me because I travel down from the North but escorting for *escorts themselves* is expensive. I could spend a lot less but you would be in a crumbier apartment, I'd be in bog standard lingerie with crappy Aliexpress sex toys and the service would be meh.

Plus- CORONOAVIRUS  As an escort I am taking a HUGE risk by working. I know that you are too, but you don't *have* to see escorts, many escorts have had to keep working despite the risks because a year without an income is impossible. I'm sorry to butt in, I just wanted to give you my viewpoint.

Happy punting 

Diana Bentham xx

So to cover your costs you need only to see 20 clients p/m approx if you see 40 more you're 10k in profit so I don't think there are going to be too many bleeding hearts.
WGs can charge what they want but pleading poverty isn't going to wash.

[Malvolio]

I'm the opposite. I like to be able to have a decent conversation with the girl so my strong preference is for native English speakers, whether thats British, American, or whatever. I also prefer agencies to AW because comms and reliability tend to be a lot better. That means if I want someone relatively attractive with decent service I'm looking at paying 300+ p/h a lot of the time. I could pay less but then I wouldn't get what I'm after, and I wouldn't enjoy myself, so it feels like more of a waste than paying more to get what I want

There are foreign WGs who speak excellent English - they do have schools in Poland, Czechia etc.

A WG's lingustic skills are something you can discover before the punt by phoning the WG and talking to them.  Or you could send a text, politely explaining that you want to be able to have a conversation and would like to have a brief phone call before you go ahead with the punt.  It does involve more legwork, but it will reduce the price of your punts by 50%.

[semaphore]

There are foreign WGs who speak excellent English - they do have schools in Poland, Czechia etc.

A WG's lingustic skills are something you can discover before the punt by phoning the WG and talking to them.  Or you could send a text, politely explaining that you want to be able to have a conversation and would like to have a brief phone call before you go ahead with the punt.  It does involve more legwork, but it will reduce the price of your punts by 50%.

Oh I know, and I've punted with Eastern European girls in the past who've been great, usually through agencies. But as you said it takes more legwork. I already generally stick to agencies over AW because I don't have to waste time wondering if I'll get a reply to my messages or not, or whether the girl will ghost at the last minute. With AW I'm already looking through search results and looking up reviews. Adding yet another layer of faff on top of that to figure out English fluency (that is if there isn't a maid or a pimp handling comms) is too much of a ballache when in that time I could already have rung up one of my regular agencies and made a booking. I absolutely appreciate where you're coming from but it's a tradeoff between time, effort, and money. And I'm a lazy fucker who'd rather just spend a bit more if it means an easier time

In short, I didn't mean to imply that foreign girls can't speak English, but I'd rather not have to play the odds and add more effort to a hobby that I do purely for fun

[Stevelondon]

So to cover your costs you need only to see 20 clients p/m approx if you see 40 more you're 10k in profit so I don't think there are going to be too many bleeding hearts.
WGs can charge what they want but pleading poverty isn't going to wash.

Is it pleading poverty. ?

Or just explaining something. !!!

I’ve seen it on this site before. The moaning punter enraged because he thinks SP’s make too much money.

Bit like football. If you think the players get paid too much. Don’t go and watch them then 

[LLPunting]

Oh I know, and I've punted with Eastern European girls in the past who've been great, usually through agencies. But as you said it takes more legwork. I already generally stick to agencies over AW because I don't have to waste time wondering if I'll get a reply to my messages or not, or whether the girl will ghost at the last minute. With AW I'm already looking through search results and looking up reviews. Adding yet another layer of faff on top of that to figure out English fluency (that is if there isn't a maid or a pimp handling comms) is too much of a ballache when in that time I could already have rung up one of my regular agencies and made a booking. I absolutely appreciate where you're coming from but it's a tradeoff between time, effort, and money. And I'm a lazy fucker who'd rather just spend a bit more if it means an easier time

In short, I didn't mean to imply that foreign girls can't speak English, but I'd rather not have to play the odds and add more effort to a hobby that I do purely for fun

Perhaps you could take a short time out from your research and drop some current reviews?       Seems you're no blushing noob without a clue in an SP's presence.   

[semaphore]

Perhaps you could take a short time out from your research and drop some current reviews?       Seems you're no blushing noob without a clue in an SP's presence.   

I haven't punted since Winter 2019 because I have a health condition that makes me vulnerable to covid. But I'm getting my 2nd jab next week, and I'll be punting again 2 weeks after that. And I'll be posting reviews as soon as I do

In the mean time I've tried to contribute by posting in other threads about girls I've seen in the past, but since they were all over a year ago I can't post them as formal reviews

[lamboman]

Is it pleading poverty. ?

Or just explaining something. !!!

I’ve seen it on this site before. The moaning punter enraged because he thinks SP’s make too much money.

Bit like football. If you think the players get paid too much. Don’t go and watch them then 

Ok may be not pleading poverty but as an excuse for charging £250 an hour it's pretty lame and I'm not moaning makes no odds to me as I said I set my limits even though money is irrelevant.

[LLPunting]

I haven't punted since Winter 2019 because I have a health condition that makes me vulnerable to covid. But I'm getting my 2nd jab next week, and I'll be punting again 2 weeks after that. And I'll be posting reviews as soon as I do

In the mean time I've tried to contribute by posting in other threads about girls I've seen in the past, but since they were all over a year ago I can't post them as formal reviews

GL with the jab then and we look forward to an eruptively stonking good review in 4 weeks, perhaps you can one-up DocJ and try for a lucky 7 in 24 hrs, your sack must be bigger than a house! 

[LLPunting]

okay, where to start! I really didn't think I'd get this reaction, bit confused.

Firstly a lot of my clients *do* know the difference between lingerie brands and a few see me specifically because of the lingerie I wear.

I'm not middle class, I don't think buying an avacado for 70p from Tesco means you're rich

I could stay in a travel lodge but if I was a client paying £250 I'd expect better accommodation than a tiny room in a budget hotel

'These things aren't essential' - They might not be to you but to a lot of clients, especially in London, they are. And you may take a lot of these essentials for granted because alot of the the time they are provided without you realising.

'A girl who can't deliver the sexiness and performance naked isn't worth 100 ph let alone more' I pity the poor woman who has to bend over backwards to please you when you have so low opinions of her. Which is exactly why I choose to have a higher rate so I don't see clients like you who think escorts are worthless.

I'm going now, so much vitriol when all I wanted to do was open your eyes a little.

Dear Estella/Diana,
It is clear from your current marketing/offering that you are a niche SP playing to the "courtesan" fanciers with perhaps some other kinks in the mix.  Sadly, unless you've been seen under any different profiles or monikers, we only have 3 2018 reviews to "know" your past performance and services by when you were a 100ph girl.
As you well know there are hundreds and thousands of SPs doing business in London and country-wide (well) below your hourly price point, countless many out of this crowd have been found and reported here as being good performers (if not exceptional) demonstrating commitment, consistency, engagement, skill and enthusiasm.  They come from all walks of the trade with all kinds of looks and many do well enough to buy a home (or more than one), pay for schooling and studies, raise kids, buy cars, afford luxury clothes and goods, etc.

Your dismissal of the expectation at my arbitrary 100 ph price point speaks to your own (increased since 2018) sense of worth and contempt for us punters who have to earn the money conventionally.   Many (perhaps most) of us here have to work 3+ hours for our hour of indulgence at 100, your fee puts us out for a day's graft before tax.

Of course you're free to (claim to) spend as much as you wish on the paraphernalia of your style of trade but it is not necessary to earn a very good living and achieve many things that many of us are still struggling to manage with our real life commitments and punting desires.

Your choice of living and working in different cities is not a necessity, it's a business and market driven choice.  How many of your clients would stop seeing you if you didn't wear the fine lingerie you're splashing out on (and perhaps they are too both fiscally and fluidly)?  It seems odd that you spend so much on everything except drinks, is the expectation that your clients would also furnish the fine libations?

[JontyR]

At risk of incurring the wrath of my punting colleagues I can well imagine the difference the lingerie would make. I know from my own labours that dressing and presenting correctly can completely alter your mindset, it's not a stretch to think that an SP would get the same benefit.

PS - no - I don't wear lingerie to work*

I too though am amazed at the advertising costs.

* except on Thursdays.

[Stevelondon]

Ok may be not pleading poverty but as an excuse for charging £250 an hour it's pretty lame and I'm not moaning makes no odds to me as I said I set my limits even though money is irrelevant.

That’s the mark of an intelligent punter.
We all know this game can be bloody addictive and I wonder just how many punters have got themselves into debt because of it.
I too set myself a limit (albeit I’ve broken my own rules once or twice).

[alabama1]

At risk of incurring the wrath of my punting colleagues I can well imagine the difference the lingerie would make. I know from my own labours that dressing and presenting correctly can completely alter your mindset, it's not a stretch to think that an SP would get the same benefit.

PS - no - I don't wear lingerie to work*

I too though am amazed at the advertising costs.

* except on Thursdays.

Expensive lingerie is wasted on me. I often come out of a punt not remembering what colour it was, let alone the brand . 

[stevedave]

Ok may be not pleading poverty but as an excuse for charging £250 an hour it's pretty lame and I'm not moaning makes no odds to me as I said I set my limits even though money is irrelevant.

Why do you feel the need to keep saying money is irrelevant, etc? This ain't a dick swinging contest about who has the most cash.

[alabama1]

Ok may be not pleading poverty but as an excuse for charging £250 an hour it's pretty lame and I'm not moaning makes no odds to me as I said I set my limits even though money is irrelevant.

No matter how much or how little you have, money is always relevant, so saying it isn't is just stupid and makes you come across as a bit of a twat. 

[DrGFreeman]

Dear Estella/Diana,
It is clear from your current marketing/offering that you are a niche SP playing to the "courtesan" fanciers with perhaps some other kinks in the mix.  Sadly, unless you've been seen under any different profiles or monikers, we only have 3 2018 reviews to "know" your past performance and services by when you were a 100ph girl.
As you well know there are hundreds and thousands of SPs doing business in London and country-wide (well) below your hourly price point, countless many out of this crowd have been found and reported here as being good performers (if not exceptional) demonstrating commitment, consistency, engagement, skill and enthusiasm.  They come from all walks of the trade with all kinds of looks and many do well enough to buy a home (or more than one), pay for schooling and studies, raise kids, buy cars, afford luxury clothes and goods, etc.

Your dismissal of the expectation at my arbitrary 100 ph price point speaks to your own (increased since 2018) sense of worth and contempt for us punters who have to earn the money conventionally.   Many (perhaps most) of us here have to work 3+ hours for our hour of indulgence at 100, your fee puts us out for a day's graft before tax.

Of course you're free to (claim to) spend as much as you wish on the paraphernalia of your style of trade but it is not necessary to earn a very good living and achieve many things that many of us are still struggling to manage with our real life commitments and punting desires.

Your choice of living and working in different cities is not a necessity, it's a business and market driven choice.  How many of your clients would stop seeing you if you didn't wear the fine lingerie you're splashing out on (and perhaps they are too both fiscally and fluidly)?  It seems odd that you spend so much on everything except drinks, is the expectation that your clients would also furnish the fine libations?

I dont see why you feel the need to 'take her down a peg or two' 
i suspect bitterness that you cant afford her rates is the reason
if she has clients that want to pay a premium cos what she wears designer underwear - what business is that of yours ?

Id offer a comparison - i dont get the 'craft beer' scene
I dont think the high prices are justified, traditional ales use the same ingredients and are a fraction of the price
nor do I wnat my beer to taste of raspberry or contain so much hops the sourness puckers the mouth
I dont make a scene in the pub cos they sell craft ales - I just dont buy it

[MysteryManNo.7]

I dont see why you feel the need to 'take her down a peg or two' 
i suspect bitterness that you cant afford her rates is the reason
if she has clients that want to pay a premium cos what she wears designer underwear - what business is that of yours ?

Id offer a comparison - i dont get the 'craft beer' scene
I dont think the high prices are justified, traditional ales use the same ingredients and are a fraction of the price
nor do I wnat my beer to taste of raspberry or contain so much hops the sourness puckers the mouth
I dont make a scene in the pub cos they sell craft ales - I just dont buy it

Why do you keep 'white-knighting' for this SP? Starting to smell a bit of tout or pimp.

[lamboman]

Why do you feel the need to keep saying money is irrelevant, etc? This ain't a dick swinging contest about who has the most cash.

Etc? And money is relevant to a thread about cost you berk.

[mills_and_bhuna]

So funny nearly spat my beer out. She’s right though London is bloody expensive. But that London flat could easily be swapped for a travel lodge and also I don’t think the average punter knows the difference between lingerie brands. Half of that is not essential

average punters don't spend 250 an hour. Maybe these punters expect expensive lingerie etc.
You're basically asking her to totally change her business model because YOU can't afford it.
Good luck with that

[JAYZ]

I honestly thought prices would drop as a result of the current pandemic but how wrong I was. I guess it is supply and demand as there are far fewer ladies available due to health fears and travel restrictions. The result is increased prices but with no corresponding increase in quality necessarily.

[blend57]

Thank you for this - my biggest surprise is the £400 Advertisement Fee... Is that how much it costs to advertise on AW?

A quick google reveals that Diana Bentham has a personal website, twitter account and adultwork account. Whilst the twitter account will be free, the adultwork and the website will cost money. Some of the pictures look like they were taken by a professional photographer. So £400 a month might be reasonable average. Then again, I have never advertised myself as a WG so I would not know what the economics of WG advertising are.

Including her Manchester expenses, her yearly costs are just over £64,000.

[Stevelondon]

That’s what this is all about really. A business model.

Why work in London out of a  travel lodge and wear pyjamas so you can charge £100 an hour.
When in fact what you really want to do is have a bit more of a luxurious space to play in ...... so you feel more comfortable doing it.

If the business model fits for you. Go with it.

Once again it’s all about what a punter is willing to fork out for. Choice. All about choice and it’s not fucking complex is it.

Just to add. I do love it when we start disagreeing........ such intellectual banter between lads.
 

[LLPunting]

I dont see why you feel the need to 'take her down a peg or two' 
i suspect bitterness that you cant afford her rates is the reason
if she has clients that want to pay a premium cos what she wears designer underwear - what business is that of yours ?

Id offer a comparison - i dont get the 'craft beer' scene
I dont think the high prices are justified, traditional ales use the same ingredients and are a fraction of the price
nor do I wnat my beer to taste of raspberry or contain so much hops the sourness puckers the mouth
I dont make a scene in the pub cos they sell craft ales - I just dont buy it

You clearly are too high on your steed to be getting enough oxygen "doc".  Your suspicion is ignorant and puerile (my recent spending could've bought a couple of lingerie sets and a few hours of her company).  Her "ale" is marketed in a particular way, all power to her for that, her "justification" for her high price point is her declared attempt to "filter" her clients and her costs which she chooses to incur, most of it on the bottling and labelling.  In the context of this forum, most of us here in London, who are actively reviewing, are after performance and/or looks i.e. the sensations and effects delivered by the contents of the labelled bottle, and there is plenty of happiness to be found in numerous, non-craft offerings in London for less than 250 ph.

We are arguing on the same side of the fence (too much non-craft imbibing) but the point of the thread is the questioning of high costs.

[Lou2019]

Personally I disagree with posts wanting to discuss pricing. SP can be members and hence read punters views and thoughts on current pricing. It's a subject that should be taboo in my humble opinion

Why is that? please explain

[DrGFreeman]

You clearly are too high on your steed to be getting enough oxygen "doc".  Your suspicion is ignorant and puerile (my recent spending could've bought a couple of lingerie sets and a few hours of her company).  Her "ale" is marketed in a particular way, all power to her for that, her "justification" for her high price point is her declared attempt to "filter" her clients and her costs which she chooses to incur, most of it on the bottling and labelling.  In the context of this forum, most of us here in London, who are actively reviewing, are after performance and/or looks i.e. the sensations and effects delivered by the contents of the labelled bottle, and there is plenty of happiness to be found in numerous, non-craft offerings in London for less than 250 ph.
We are arguing on the same side of the fence (too much non-craft imbibing) but the point of the thread is the questioning of high costs.

the way she markets herself and the clients she courts are entirely up to her
you didn't answer my question - what does her business plan have to do with you ?

[LLPunting]

the way she markets herself and the clients she courts are entirely up to her
you didn't answer my question - what does her business plan have to do with you ?

You're being obtuse right?  She offered her "business plan" up for discussion.  Why are you so touchy about her plan being analysed in the context of this thread?

[DrGFreeman]

I disagree with your need to tell her shes wrong (in your opinion)

in my craft beer comparison, you are the dude at the bar complaining to everyone within earshot that its over priced and you dont like the taste
just order something else

[LLPunting]

I disagree with your need to tell her shes wrong (in your opinion)

in my craft beer comparison, you are the dude at the bar complaining to everyone within earshot that its over priced and you dont like the taste
just order something else

I'll have a babycham 

[thundercrackerxx]

Price has gone up and service and quality down in my experience. Average looking or less women the wrong side of 30, over weight and covered in scribble charging way too much. Not worth it. Or attractive roms who can't be touched or take much of a fucking then expect you to pay and enjoy it.

[stevedave]

Etc? And money is relevant to a thread about cost you berk.

Yes, comments such as cost is no concern to me, earlier in this thread. Just make you sound a bit of an arrogant bugger in my opinion.

[Payyourwaymate]

Just my two cents, hope you don't mind... 
I work in London but live in Manchester.

So, I charge £250 per hour- this is what I need to spend before I see anyone to be presentable, give you a great time ect

£800 rent per week in zone 1
£200 train fare per month
£400 advertising per month
£400-£600 per lingerie set (Bordelle/ Birdette ect)
£250 per month make up, nails, waxing, hair
£70 Wine, champagne, beer for clients
Plus £600 a month for my bills in Manchester

I know its slightly different for me because I travel down from the North but escorting for *escorts themselves* is expensive. I could spend a lot less but you would be in a crumbier apartment, I'd be in bog standard lingerie with crappy Aliexpress sex toys and the service would be meh.

Plus- CORONOAVIRUS  As an escort I am taking a HUGE risk by working. I know that you are too, but you don't *have* to see escorts, many escorts have had to keep working despite the risks because a year without an income is impossible. I'm sorry to butt in, I just wanted to give you my viewpoint.

Happy punting 

Diana Bentham xx

I did not see anything wrong with this post. Have I missed something that she claims in her next post there is vitriol from members for what she stated?

EDIT: Nevermind saw the nexts posts. I'm not involved. I'm out lol.

[Payyourwaymate]

Why do you keep 'white-knighting' for this SP? Starting to smell a bit of tout or pimp.

  that member is not a tout or a pimp.

[Rock123]

The age old adage of demand and supply. If the demand is there then the the price will go up.

[Cryton123]

Why do you keep 'white-knighting' for this SP? Starting to smell a bit of tout or pimp.

Whiteknighting? All he did was offer a perfectly reasonable analogy of punting!

Resorting to name calling is a painfully weak response 

[chadpitt]

The age old adage of demand and supply. If the demand is there then the the price will go up.

That doesn't apply to punting. Hookers only hike prices or quit. They're too egotistical to compromise.

[alabama1]

That doesn't apply to punting. Hookers only hike prices or quit. They're too egotistical to compromise.

Quit and do what ?

[chadpitt]

Quit and do what ?

Civie job of course. Maybe lap dancing. Either way they up and leave, Scrub their AW profiles.

[JontyR]

Expensive lingerie is wasted on me. I often come out of a punt not remembering what colour it was, let alone the brand . 

Think I didn't explain myself very well. I meant that the lingerie makes a difference to the provider - giving a different mindset - putting on your game face so to speak.

[alabama1]

Think I didn't explain myself very well. I meant that the lingerie makes a difference to the provider - giving a different mindset - putting on your game face so to speak.

It shouldn't make a difference. It should be all about the punter who is paying his hard earned surely 

[southcoastpunter]

with respect Alabama1,  you don't seem to know women very well. its not what we think that is important, its what THEY think. (And we guys don't understand their thinking most of the time!!)

[JontyR]

It shouldn't make a difference. It should be all about the punter who is paying his hard earned surely 

But if it makes a difference to her mindset, and how she delivers, then to my mind it's a legitimate cost.

If you say you don't want her to wear lingerie, then surely that will be accommodated without impact on service because it's meeting the need. But don't expect the cost to change downwards.

I'm just saying clothes can make a difference to mindset. Even in reverse, putting on scruffs to paint the fence helps me to "get in the zone."

[alabama1]

with respect Alabama1,  you don't seem to know women very well. its not what we think that is important, its what THEY think. (And we guys don't understand their thinking most of the time!!)

With all due respect, when I am paying up to £3 a minute, it,s 100% all about what I fucking think !!!

[hendrix]

It shouldn't make a difference. It should be all about the punter who is paying his hard earned surely 

In my job, I wouldn't dream of meeting my clients without being dressed to the nines, because of how it makes me feel, and their perception of my professionalism 

[southcoastpunter]

With all due respect, when I am paying up to £3 a minute, it,s 100% all about what I fucking think !!!

hang on, you said it shouldn't make any difference to this comment:

Think I didn't explain myself very well. I meant that the lingerie makes a difference to the provider - giving a different mindset - putting on your game face so to speak.

That was all about what was in HER mind, not yours!

what you think doesn't make any difference to her and her attitude/approach and business model and how she feels.  It doesn't even matter to other punters.  what you think only matters to you and whether you want to pay her rate or not. Its your choice as it is other guys choice to pay or not and whether they want to see her in expensive lingerie or not.
i
Its all quite simple really - personal choice. you like her and her services and fee and want to see her - or not! Other punters want to see her, or not!

[JontyR]

That was all about what was in HER mind, not yours!

what you think doesn't make any difference to her and her attitude/approach and business model and how she feels.  It doesn't even matter to other punters.  what you think only matters to you and whether you want to pay her rate or not. Its your choice as it is other guys choice to pay or not and whether they want to see her in expensive lingerie or not.

I have proved my point that I didn't explain myself very well - as we are in complete agreement here.

[Bonker]

The amount you pay is governed by whether you want your dick, or your ego, massaged.

[southcoastpunter]

I have proved my point that I didn't explain myself very well - as we are in complete agreement here.

yes, sorry Jonty. My comment was intended to be addressed to Alabama1 and not to you.

[blend57]

So what are we arguing about here? Different business models or the general economics of punting?

Business Model: There are different ways of making money from servicing punters. It all depends on which punters you want to serve. The post that has gotten everyone hot and bothered simply explained a business model that is followed if a WG wants to have high roller clients. For such WGs it is simply not enough to turn up with tits and a pulse. A WG has to spend money in order to make money. It is no different from any other service business that targets premium clients.

As for the economics: Most prostitution in this country is off street and arranged through the use of the internet and mobile and smart phones. This means there will always be a minimum amount that has to be charged in order for the WG to stay in business. Same as any other business. Regardless of the market segment the WG seeks to serve, she has to have some kind of premises to entertain the clients in, internet advertising, email, phone number and condoms.

I am sure we could calculate the minimum level of expenses needed to be incurred and from that calculate how much a WG needs to charge assuming an average number of clients and for her to earn the living wage of this country. However, that may not result in a WG that we would want to punt with.

[daviemac]

With all due respect, when I am paying up to £3 a minute, it,s 100% all about what I fucking think !!!

You are showing a total lack of understanding of the way women think, the sexier they feel in themselves the sexier they will be with you, hence them buying lingerie they feel best in.